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Bucko
09-02-2007, 05:58 AM
For my entry into the TGS Modders Challenge I'm doing an external hard drive enclosure with a difference.

It will be bigger than most and be able to hold more than one drive, as well as having a powered USB hub. It will be ideal for people who are after more external storage, or just someone who wants to go to a file swapping party and only take a laptop and this, rather than a full PC.

I've only just started, so pics will be coming soon.

Bucko
09-02-2007, 06:36 AM
Here's a couple of pics of the front.

I took an old case and cut the middle section out of it, then rejoined the top and bottom.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/113/cameradump121xx7.jpg

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8505/cameradump123wm9.jpg

xRyokenx
09-02-2007, 05:28 PM
This should be pretty cool, it'll be interesting to see how this turns out.

elbarto241
09-02-2007, 05:51 PM
bucko is at it again, no doubt this be another great one.
im curious where hes going with this.. i think i have an idea. but then again it is bucko :D

Bucko
09-02-2007, 09:04 PM
Well as you can probably guess it will be designed to take 5.25" devices too. I've ordered some IDE to USB cables from eBay.
I plan on putting a DVD burner in it and using this with my old laptop which only has a DVD-ROM drive.

.Maleficus.
09-02-2007, 09:07 PM
Am I sensing some custom 5.25" to 3.5" mounting hardware, and a wicked paint job? I sure hope I am.. ;) Looks cool though, good luck with the contest. I'd enter myself if I had any ideas...

Bucko
09-02-2007, 09:33 PM
Not really custom 5.25" to 3.5" adapters. I have some from a case that only had 5.25" bays and came with brackets for fitting 3.5" HDD in a 5.25" slot.

As for the paint, I am planning on a good quality paint job, but only in gloss black.

Jim Beam
09-02-2007, 09:42 PM
As for the paint, I am planning on a good quality paint job, but only in gloss black.


I think everything should be painted gloss black.

alexanderH
09-02-2007, 09:52 PM
this is going to be one sweet item. I'd like to see the end of it, and then probably see it in stores!

.Maleficus.
09-02-2007, 10:14 PM
Not really custom 5.25" to 3.5" adapters. I have some from a case that only had 5.25" bays and came with brackets for fitting 3.5" HDD in a 5.25" slot.

As for the paint, I am planning on a good quality paint job, but only in gloss black.
I consider gloss black wicked.

You're going for modularity with this, right? Anyways, I can't wait to see this take off. Like alexander said, I'd love to see something like this in stores. I could find one of these very useful...

TheGreatSatan
09-03-2007, 12:39 AM
Thanks for competing! +Rep

Remy
09-03-2007, 01:01 AM
Excellent idea Bucko. I look forward to seeing how this turns out. Great idea using the front bezel of a case to start. It's definitely going to give your entry a production look, rather than a one-off. +rep for the production look :up:

Bucko
09-03-2007, 04:23 AM
Thanks, I was going for a more production look.

Here's another small update.

I cut a slot in the front for the 4 port USB hub. I also cut the front off the USB hub to use it for the holes. Seemed the best way to have neat looking holes that all line up.

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2142/cameradump125tn0.jpg


I glued the front of the USB hub on and used some spot putty to fill in around it. It still needs sanding and a little more putty.

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4804/cameradump126qe7.jpg


The rest of the case the front panel came from will be cut up and used too. The design of the case is exactly what I need to cut off the bottom and just use the top, while still having strength. As it was an old AT case, it wasn't much good for today's hardware.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3828/cameradump127ez0.jpg


I'll also reuse the cover for the case, which is one piece and trim it down to the right height.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2753/cameradump128ea3.jpg

danthegeek
09-03-2007, 05:16 AM
Looks awesome, Id love to have something like that. I was wondering what you are going to use to power the Hard Drives? Will it be a old power supply or a universal power pack deal. Id think you would only need about 30 watts for something like this. Good luck.

-danthegeek

EDIT- Ok maybe 50 watts with the burner and usb. (forgot about them)

Jim Beam
09-03-2007, 05:44 AM
thermaltake makes a PSU that fits in a 5 1/4" drive bay you could use one of those. if you had 2 of those cases you could make it double sided.

Bucko
09-03-2007, 06:12 AM
I plan on using an ATX power supply. I have a 150w supply that is about half the length of a standard ATX supply, so I'll probably use that.

Collinstheclown
09-03-2007, 10:14 AM
You could use somethine like this (http://store.mp3car.com/Snap_On_Miniature_12v_DC_Power_Supply_200w_p/pwr-006.htm) for power.

I have that case, I found it in the trash near my house one day. Took it in turned it on and found all the dude's info.




-CollinstheClown

Bucko
09-03-2007, 12:33 PM
You could use somethine like this (http://store.mp3car.com/Snap_On_Miniature_12v_DC_Power_Supply_200w_p/pwr-006.htm) for power.


Not really. It isn't a mains power supply. It still needs 12v to work. I want power from a mains supply.

Collinstheclown
09-03-2007, 08:31 PM
Your supposed to use an AC to DC wall-wart with it.




-CollinstheClown

TheGreatSatan
09-04-2007, 10:45 PM
I hate cases that just have one piece for the whole top and sides.

The boy 4rm oz
09-05-2007, 09:52 AM
This looks very interesting, I have seen pre-maid versions of this but without the hub (I think), anyway should look great.

slytherock
09-05-2007, 10:18 AM
Bucko, how about swap drive bays? could be interesting to have the possibility of even more hdd.

Bucko
09-09-2007, 01:08 PM
Small update. The front panel is almost finished:

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6527/cameradump140lh7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Computer-Geek
09-09-2007, 02:31 PM
wow the front panel looks pretty good!

xRyokenx
09-09-2007, 02:32 PM
Nice job dude, it looks stock...

The boy 4rm oz
09-10-2007, 03:32 AM
Yeah it does look stock, fantastic work so far.

b4i7
09-10-2007, 11:50 AM
very clean work bucko, very nice

NightrainSrt4
09-11-2007, 10:10 PM
Looks nice and clean! Good job! Cant wait to see the finished product.

Drew
09-12-2007, 08:59 AM
+rep that man, looks mega.

Really liking the fact it looks so factory.

TheGreatSatan
09-14-2007, 11:56 AM
Lookin' kick ass!

TheGreatSatan
09-24-2007, 09:45 AM
Will you be able to finish in 6 days?

Bucko
09-24-2007, 11:32 AM
I should be able too. It has some paint done now. I've had the USB-IDE cable turn up off eBay finally. I need to get out in the shed and finish it off.

XcOM
09-24-2007, 03:30 PM
can't wait to see.

Bucko
09-25-2007, 05:53 PM
I'll be hitting the shed today for a few hours. It's still to early for an angle grinder though, so I'll give it an hour before I start.

Bucko
09-25-2007, 09:01 PM
Couple of hours later, here's where I'm at.

The old PC case is all cut down to size:

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/8240/cameradump179rc1.jpg


And I'm starting to lay some paint down:

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1248/cameradump180vl8.jpg


I should point out a few things with my entry.

The TGS contest did actually say no computer case mods, it had to be an accessory mod. I hope that the fact I started with a PC case is ok. While it is technically a case mod because I started with a PC case, it's no longer any good for a computer. The External Storage Solution is solely meant to be something that Laptop or PC user could either use to store all their files at home and just transport what's needed on the laptop, or they could use this storage Device to take along to a file sharing party and have plenty of easy access to the HDDs that could be plugged into any PC via USB.
For my entry I won't be showing too much in the way of the wiring. Mostly as The External Storage Solution is a prototype it has been designed to take a standard ATX PSU with minor wiring mods. As PSU mods are not allowed in the TGS Challenge, you'll have to imagine if this was a production item, the ESS would come with either a dedicated and one off designed PSU for it, or would have plugs to allow a standard ATX PSU to use it's existing standard leads to plug into specially designed plugs in the ESS.

So overall I am considering this a modification of an external USB HDD enclosure.


In other words, if you put a window on a CD drive you must tell me why you think manufacturers should put windows on their CD drives. "Because it's cool", will not suffice. Why will people want to buy one of these? How will it help show off their case?

So to answer that part of the entry requirements, I feel that the current USB HDD enclosures don't allow enough flexibility. I have two I use. One is a 2.5" (laptop) drive enclosure with a 40Gb drive. The other is a 3.5" (PC) drive enclosure with a 320Gb drive.
The 2.5" gets the most use as it doesn't need a power supply. Just plug in the two USB plugs and away you go. That is nice and compact and perfect for living in my work bag.
However the 3.5" drive needs a separate power pack to power the drive, along with the USB cord. So basically it doesn't go anywhere but on my desk.
People would want to buy one of these as it allows much more flexibility to what you want for your computer, while having no more leads than a normal HDD enclosure.
The would allow you to use 3.5" drives or 5.25" drives and accessories.
Regular PC users might like the ability to transport a large amount of data between the home and office.
Modders might branch off in a different direction and set it all up as an eSATA ESS which allows their PC to be hidden away and a have lot less desk clutter, while still accessing a DVD drive easily.
For those into LAN Parties, but can only afford one PC and not a separate gaming PC, the main transportable PC could be built much smaller and only run one drive in the main case for LAN Parties, while back at home an eSATA set up would allow them access to all their media files and other data that doesn't need to taken to a LAN.

For the Modders and LAN Party people it would allow them to show off their case by making it smaller without compromising looks for functionality.

liquid_fire
09-25-2007, 09:11 PM
excellent idea,
do you just have a USB hub inside that thing? How do you connect to multiple drives with just one cord?

thanks,

Bucko
09-25-2007, 09:26 PM
excellent idea,
do you just have a USB hub inside that thing? How do you connect to multiple drives with just one cord?

thanks,

It will have two powered USB hubs. One 4 port hub the front of the ESS to plug in whatever you like and one internal to plug in each drive to. I got a couple of IDE-USB cables off ebay.

Bucko
09-25-2007, 11:23 PM
Here's another progress shot. I just need to do the wiring, and fit the power switch and power LED.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9223/cameradump182px7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

w0lv3r1n3
09-26-2007, 12:18 AM
Wicked man!
No handles?

hehe

slytherock
09-26-2007, 12:23 AM
I'm curious about the inside...
Really impressive work :up:

b4i7
09-26-2007, 12:29 AM
bucko...that is bad ass...i may have to do something similar

Bucko
09-26-2007, 12:37 AM
Thanks guys. There will be shots of the insides. I just won't be showing any PSU mods at all.
I also wanted to do a non-Rat mod for a change.

As for handles, I did think about that, and I even have some I thought of using, but I decided against it as I won't be using it for travelling, I will have it live on my desk and be used as a back up drive for my Lappy and main PC.

h3moglobe0
09-26-2007, 03:19 AM
I'm curious about the inside...
Really impressive work


True true :D. I am also very curious about inside. May we see pic from the cave of monster?:D.

Very nice job man.
+rep

ps. "Bucko - one to gather their all rep and rule them all" ?? Don't you have to much rep, my precious??:D

p0Pe
09-26-2007, 03:25 AM
its nice!
but its a big long:/ how many drives does it has room for?

The boy 4rm oz
09-26-2007, 10:10 AM
Mate this looks fantastic, great mod so far.

Remy
09-27-2007, 01:58 AM
Great work so far Bucko. If I saw this thing for sale on a shelf, I'd definitely buy one. You have certainly nailed that production look.

+rep

Remy

Bucko
09-30-2007, 04:50 AM
My camera batteries are flat, so I can't take the finished pics. Sorry guys, but I won't have a chance to get them up before the competition closes later today.

TheGreatSatan
10-09-2007, 12:31 PM
Post finished pics. I need to see it done to make the right decision

XcOM
10-09-2007, 04:11 PM
Post finished pics. I need to see it done to make the right decision

I would do what TGS said, You don't want to anger TGS do you?

Bucko
10-10-2007, 07:55 PM
Here are the final pics.

The HDD I had lying around I used the 5.25" adapters on. It also has the USB cable I bought off eBay.

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/1126/cameradump184pa3.jpg

Here you can see it installed. The USB hub is just Blu-tac'd in place on the PSU. I'll mount it properly when I mod a PSU for the case later. It has the front USB hub plug into it as well and it's getting it's power from a wall wart. When I mod the next PSU, both hubs will be powered off the PSU. As I couldn't mod the PSU for this comp, I just threw an old AT 150W PSU in to fill the hole and have a switch that would power it on without any modding. To make the power switch work on the front, I used a small chrome button held in place with a lubricated rubber grommet. It slides in an out and hits the AT switch.

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/5416/cameradump186fv0.jpg

The leads out the back: PSU power, Wall Wart for the USB and the USB lead to plug into the computer.

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/4008/cameradump187mx5.jpg


And a couple of finished shots.

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7628/cameradump190bu0.jpg

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6599/cameradump192ud4.jpg

The boy 4rm oz
10-10-2007, 09:43 PM
Looks good mate, a great job. +rep

b4i7
10-11-2007, 12:08 AM
that looks wicked cool!...like a super long shuttle case

p0Pe
10-11-2007, 01:31 AM
yeah!... a shame it only has room for two:/

+rep from me

Bucko
10-11-2007, 01:37 AM
It actually has space for another two drives underneath.
With a little work, there is space for 4 3.5" drives underneath, as well as the two 5.25" bays.

p0Pe
10-11-2007, 02:23 AM
but 4 :S... wouldnt that be a bit tight thinkin of temp, and as it is now does it has some airflow? otherwise i could imaging the drives being a bit hot thx to the little room and the psu:p

The boy 4rm oz
10-11-2007, 02:39 AM
Should put a fan somewhere for ventilation, apart from the PSU fan.

p0Pe
10-11-2007, 02:51 AM
yeah since the psu most likely will create hot air thats of no use, maybe isolate the psu room?

and i know by experience that hdd´s thats in a such case with no fans easily gets 70 C if not more:S