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Redbeard
08-07-2005, 06:13 PM
I am working on a new case and was wondering what methods people use to make their case look worn. I am going for a very worn look on mine so I don't know if one method would be better than others for looking acid burned, rusted, coroded, used and abused. Any help is appreciated..

sXenoG
08-07-2005, 09:54 PM
Be more descriptive on what type of weathering but in the mean time here is a case that used weathering breifly shows you his technique in th photos so if this is the weathering you want here ya go.

http://members.home.nl/gis/

Aero
08-08-2005, 01:49 AM
Rus is my personal favorite look. To get a real good rust look, goto a craft store, get an antiqueing kit, it coes with an iron based paint and a special solution. Paint with the iron paint and then oaint on the solution, rust will actually form on the surface. You can then clear coat it to keep more rust from forming, (or anybody getting hurt from it). If its not colorfull enough add some orange paint and dry brush it over the solution (after the solution has dried of course).

Redbeard
08-08-2005, 07:01 PM
Thanks for the link sXenoG, is there a worklog to go along with the case? Sorry for the lack of desciption. Today I purchased both a rusting kit and some spraypaint made by rustoleum (spelling?) that looks like it has a hammered finish. The main thing I am going for now is acid burns on the case, anyone know how to do that?

crenn
08-08-2005, 07:28 PM
Get hydrocholric acid (1.0M) and put a drop or 2 on the case.

temmink
08-08-2005, 08:18 PM
or fine brush work, you know, that doesn't actually eat away at your ****.

idaho4u
08-08-2005, 09:01 PM
hot ****

Redbeard
08-09-2005, 11:59 AM
okay where would one find such a thing?

crazybillybob
08-09-2005, 04:29 PM
Here is a tip I just got from a friend.

If you want the rusted or peeled look. Lay down a base coat (rust colored for rusted, shiny for flecking). Once it's good and dry take a spray bottle full of water, spray it in the area you want to look crusty. Then while the water is still on the area spray the top coats (the color you want). Once the paint has dried well take a tissue and gently rub the paint. The water bead will cause the paint over it to crack and flack off exposing the color you put down first.
This technique is used allot by model railroaders. But you can see that you can get some funky effects with different colors in layers.

Hope this helped,
Crazybillybob

Aero
08-09-2005, 05:51 PM
Get hydrocholric acid (1.0M) and put a drop or 2 on the case.


that actually won't do much. Last year in chemistry my friend dropped some 1 M (I think it was actually much stronger but I can't remember so I will just say 1M) acid on his binder, unfortunately nothing happened, alittle color change, but nohting else.

weirdguy
08-09-2005, 06:24 PM
then drop alot on the case :)

Redbeard
08-09-2005, 11:36 PM
well i've started painting the panels with rustoleum's rust kit. So far it's comming along better than expected. I was talking to someone about this problem with acid burning and he suggesyed some kind of brick cleaner found at most hardware stores. Anyone know how well this would work? Also my paint job so far looks promising but it still looks a bit new (even with all the rust) does anyone know any secrets on making something look really worn?

Aero
08-10-2005, 01:40 AM
go, grap a saw, and cut wood. Then collect the dust and mix alittle in with the paint. Experiment, this adds more bumps and texture to the paint, I used it when I painted my calculator last year... unfortunatly I forgot to cover the contacts on the circuit board and I broke my calculator, but the paint looked sweet.

crazybillybob
08-10-2005, 11:45 AM
My wife bought this stuff for the paint in our house. It's very fine granite powder I think it was like $5 for a few Oz of this stuff (Lowes carries it in the paint dept, Just ask the nice man @ the counter for it). When it's mixed with the paint the paint gets thicker and you get that bumpy texture, and when it dries you can get some of it to flake off and leave a divot where it was. The effect it that the wall looks like she painted over a boat load of rust!

Good luck (post some pics!)

Crazybillybob

Redbeard
08-10-2005, 02:04 PM
Thanx for the advice billybob. I hope to be able to post pics soon but my camera is 2 megapixels (don't laugh) so I may try to borrow one so the pics can be clearer. I still really need help on acid burns for my case. Thanx.

crazybillybob
08-10-2005, 04:49 PM
I was talking to someone about this problem with acid burning and he suggesyed some kind of brick cleaner found at most hardware stores. Anyone know how well this would work?

The acid your looking for is Muriatic Acid is the old name for hydrochloric acid.
The Acid you get at the homecenters is going to be about 31.45% acid, the rest inert (mainly water). This is not for use indoors!

What look Are you going for with this? You maybe better off using a torch or something else. Cause the acid is just going to eat the paint off. To get it to cut gouges and do the smokey movie thing you'd need allot stronger stuff. (you can't pick that up at the local hardware!)

Describe the look your going for (pics work too) and we'll (I'll) see what we come up with.

CrazyBillybob

Redbeard
08-10-2005, 11:00 PM
well Billybob to tell the truth the idea i was going for was a fallout (best RPG ever as far as I'm conserned) type style for the case. Here is what i was wanting to do. I was to burn (using acid) a radition symbol into the side of my case. The case panels have already been coated with bondo and sanded down to give a very nice coroded look to them. Now they are being painted rust to add to the affect. I'll try and get pics soon, maybe that helps so far.

If you have seen the Rig of the Month for Maximum PC's August edition (Ric Smith's perforated pc) you might kinda get an idea of how i want my case to look worn. I don't want to copy him just apply some similar methods to my own.

crazybillybob
08-11-2005, 11:31 AM
Mobile,

I've got a basic Idea on how to weather your case (and maybe that Rad symbol). I'm meet some prop making buddies this weekend so let me talk it over with them and I'll see what I can come up with for ye next week!

Crazybillybob

Redbeard
08-11-2005, 04:52 PM
Billybob that would be great. Thanks so much for all of your help so far and for this as well. I'm still trying to get pics up.

Redbeard
08-15-2005, 12:00 AM
As requested here are some pics of my rig at its current status. Sorry if the resolution doesn’t turn out to be that great; I did the best I could. Also I am no photographer so the flash kind of skews the true color of the mod. A few things about my case. The case is an old E-machine's case. The case is going to house my gaming server that I will set up when I get back to college. This is my first true mod so be gentle, besides it's not even finished. The first pic is the most accurate to the color of the case the others are too bright.

http://server3.uploadit.org/files/mobileray2-NoFlashMoreAccurateColor.JPG

http://server2.uploadit.org/files/mobileray2-CDROM.JPG

http://server2.uploadit.org/files/mobileray2-Case1.JPG

http://server3.uploadit.org/files/mobileray2-RightPanel.JPG

http://server3.uploadit.org/files/mobileray2-TextureRightPanel.JPG

http://server2.uploadit.org/files/mobileray2-Keyboard.JPG

crazybillybob
08-16-2005, 09:49 AM
I saw the pics...I like the color very Rusty...... I still don't have a good answer for you. The best thing I could come up with would be to draw/print out the Rad symbol then adjust it so it looks like is was poured on. Then use a small ball point Dremel tip and etch the pattern into the case (with all the bondo texture you could sink it in 1/8") Base coat it the same as the case. Then take some color (I don't know you color combo) Like glowing green (could even be glow in the dark green) rub it into the etch (use a rag get it into the crevasse). then take a darker color (shade it so dark green) and get it on most of the high spot....put it dry brush style (this is where you get paint on the brush then wipe 80% of it off then start to paint with it) Once that's done you just want to weather the whole case together (mix some brown with water so it's thin and put it on , same with black)....The thing about weathering ...if you can tell it's there you've got too much on, you want it to be very subtle, let some of it run the n use a rag to wipe it off (the dark colors will get into the deep groves and cracks but you'll clean it off the high points)...so it looks like years of neglect not poured paint!

Here's a link to some Weathering Tips (http://www.astromech.net/Lists/Tutorials/docs/painting/weathering_tips.htm)

I'll see if I can find a Rad symbol and show you what I mean...

Let me know if this helps!

Crazybillybob

Rankenphile
08-19-2005, 12:11 AM
Weathering isn't hard, given an artist's eye. What I would recommend is washing the entire thing in thinned black watercolor or acrylic paint.

Washing is a technique I use on many models, where you thin the paint so that it is like water, and you spread it over the surface and let it collect in the thin grooves and cracks, then wipe the excess off of the raised surfaces. Let it dry, repeat until you get a good effect.

From there, when you do your last wash or two, run streaks down the face from where water would normally collect if it were out in the rain, for instance. Build up these streaks so that it looks like water has washed soil over a long period of time.

Repeat this with a white wash. Using Koh-I-Noor inks watered down well works quite well, I've found, as they have a good selection of colors, including white ink. You can find these at art supply shops or craft stores, some times. Also anywhere they carry quality caligraphy equipment. It is frequently used in drafting pens, also.

Wash, streak, dry. Wash, streak, dry. Let it look good and grungy.

Then, to enhance the effect, drybrush a highlight, like a light grey or ivory, or a light orange, onto the very edges. Drybrushing is a technique in which you add paint to your brush and then wipe as much as you can out. I will wipe onto a paper towel until I don't see any new paint coming off onto the paper towel. From there, lightly brush any raised surface. Your brush should leave a very faint highlight, simulating sun bleaching. With rust you won't see this much, but it would be noticeable. Look in your surroundings - go study an old concrete block, old tin roofs, industrial sites, anything that sits in the outdoors and is rarely maintained asthetically - and you will learn how they look in real life, so that you can simulate it. Observe:

http://photos6.flickr.com/7535186_ffb8756f57_m.jpg

http://www.pixelmap.com/images/ts_amer_12.jpg

http://www.pixelmap.com/images/ts_amer_07.jpg

http://www.pixelmap.com/images/ts_amer_00.jpg

Don't just take my advice, though, because you may not like the result. As always, try a little bit on a test part or somewhere you may not notice.

Hope this helped.

snefan
08-19-2005, 03:58 PM
oooh the first pic there with the pipe really gave me an idea!!! but i need lots of stuff to start lol :D

Redbeard
08-20-2005, 01:12 PM
Well I'm officially moved in here at College. Some of my pals drooled over my new case. It's not really all that great, they just haven't seen anything like it before. Hoping to get some pics up soon.

Redbeard
08-28-2005, 02:32 PM
I promise to post some pics soon but the hurricane is going to limit this process a little while longer. Because I am here in Mobile, Alabama I won't have power for 24-48 hours.

Crimson Sky
08-28-2005, 11:46 PM
I did this with Bondo, silver and black spray paint and a faux rust kit from Home Depot:

http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/index.php?module=photoshare&type=show&func=viewimage&iid=55&viewkey=

http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/index.php?module=photoshare&type=show&func=viewimage&iid=58&viewkey=

The texture you put on your case look sreally good..all you need to do is finess the rust paint job and it will look great!~

p.s. i hope you stay safe from the storm :(

Redbeard
08-30-2005, 03:59 PM
thanx for the advice Crimson. Yeah I rode out the storm on campus and everything turned out fine except the power will be out all week. After waiting in line for 2 hours to fill up my car, I decided to migrate to my parents' house 3 hours north of Mobile (where the electricity is :) ). Sadly in my rush to leave I left my server so not only can I not post any pictures for an update but I can't work on it either :(

public_eyesore
08-30-2005, 09:45 PM
yea i think your case needs some more silver in it.

Redbeard
08-31-2005, 11:38 PM
well silver has been at the top of my list of things to add and in fact that reminds me...

This may sound kind of cheap but it has worked nicely. I have found that using a silver sharpie has worked nicely. I simply high light the area I am working with then slightly wipe it with a wet paper towel. It looks great and is very easy.

Crimson, I really liked the detail of the silver on your Bio-Hazard case. I can't seem to find any worklogs on that case. Could you provide information on your methods while working on the case? (especially the silver)

Redbeard
09-10-2005, 04:39 PM
update, I have finally been able to work on my case now that I have moved back to school. Pics comming soon.

SgtM
09-10-2005, 09:35 PM
Suggestion.. why not make a work log and post on here? More people will probably see it, and may be inclined to reply with their thoughts. I'm diggin it so far, but I haven't modded anything (yet), so I can't really be of much help as far as how to do things.

Redbeard
09-10-2005, 09:48 PM
I would make one but the project is too far along by my opinion. I have another project that I may start sometime around Christmas and I do plan to do a worklog with it.

[DGN]Nexus
09-10-2005, 11:12 PM
It doesn't matter how far you've gotten, we just want to see it. Anticipation causes anurisms... :eek:

dgrmkrp
09-11-2005, 02:56 AM
same here... we wanna see... :)

Redbeard
09-11-2005, 04:39 PM
okay okay soon I promise...

Redbeard
09-14-2005, 07:38 PM
still not finished but here are some updates
http://myspace-568.vo.llnwd.net/00225/86/53/225673568_l.jpg

http://myspace-823.vo.llnwd.net/00225/32/85/225675823_l.jpg

sorry the pics aren't that good, it was the best I could do.

uprock2daflo
09-14-2005, 10:07 PM
wow it does really look worn out, how old is it? 100 years old, lol. great effect

Redbeard
09-15-2005, 11:39 PM
thanx for the compliment, obviously still not done. I just have to find time. I plan to take more pics with maybe better lighting and some with the lights on inside of it.

Judgement
10-06-2005, 07:48 AM
what type of case was that it looks like an old E-turd (E-machines) I had :D

Redbeard
10-08-2005, 02:28 PM
it is a e-machines case, now all the hardware inside is completely new and not so crappy.

montmorency
10-20-2005, 04:45 PM
i think its great.

it might look good to add some yellow and orrange.

s'great so far. good luck