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Greco101
09-25-2007, 05:01 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Special-Halo-3-Xbox-Super-Bundle-Signed-by-Bill-Gates_W0QQitemZ220153729983QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6205 4QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

AJ@PR
09-25-2007, 05:03 PM
100% authentic fake, IMO.

Luke122
09-25-2007, 05:34 PM
Sad but true.. I've seen his signature before.. haha. :)

I'm actually fairly sure that this is legit.

SgtM
09-25-2007, 06:16 PM
Can't find my microsoft certificate right now, but compare that to this..

https://www.microsoft.com/msft/reports/ar99/lts6.htm

Could go either way as far as I'm concerned.

Bucko
09-25-2007, 06:33 PM
Lets face it, if Bill Gates was signing 360's, he wouldn't be signing one or two, he would have signed a LOT. How good do you think your signature would be after 50 times writing it with a Sharpie...

D1337
09-25-2007, 07:52 PM
looks fake, i know he doesnt have a hard to write signature, but that looks way to scribbly.
plus in the photo's the only one that has the signature is the close up picture, which doesnt display any other items.

AJ@PR
09-25-2007, 08:06 PM
What sealed the deal for me was the

Personally signed by Bill Gates (with letter of authenticity).

I mean, WTF?
What's this "letter"?

Like Gates read a letter saying
I, William Gates, aka Billy MS, give my oath that my signature on this xBox 360 is legit... I secretly like iPods...

That didn't fly with me.
But, w/e I guess. :)

SgtM
09-25-2007, 08:16 PM
What sealed the deal for me was the


I mean, WTF?
What's this "letter"?

Like Gates read a letter saying
I, William Gates, aka Billy MS, give my oath that my signature on this xBox 360 is legit... I secretly like iPods...

That didn't fly with me.
But, w/e I guess. :)

It's a certificate saying that the autograph or signature is authentic. VERY big deal when buying something which is supposed to be authgraphed by someone.

Wonder why they didn't include a picture of it.
http://www.psadna.com/fees.chtml

Omega
09-25-2007, 08:16 PM
plus in the photo's the only one that has the signature is the close up picture, which doesnt display any other items.

Look at the overall pic

notice there's a black spot under the optical drive on the 360, above the IR ports or whatever, looks like a scribble


seems legit to me.

xRyokenx
09-25-2007, 08:43 PM
If it was a scam, they'd get kicked from eBay and I doubt that anyone want to lose their account of 33k+ stars. Seriously, that's more valuable than $2-3k.

chaksq
09-25-2007, 08:57 PM
The signatures from the xbox and the other link someone posted don't match at all. In the confirmed signature notice how he connects the B and G to the rest of the word. Doesn't do this at all on the xbox. Just thought I would point that out.

xRyokenx
09-25-2007, 08:58 PM
The signatures from the xbox and the other link someone posted don't match at all. In the confirmed signature notice how he connects the B and G to the rest of the word. Doesn't do this at all on the xbox. Just thought I would point that out.

Curious... I know that whenever I get in different moods or feel sick or whatever I don't sign the same as usual... but it is possible it's fake. Just saying that it doesn't seem logical to throw out such a good eBay account just for 2k...

Omega
09-25-2007, 09:04 PM
It'll probably peak WAY over 2k. It's got over a week left.

AJ@PR
09-25-2007, 09:06 PM
It's a certificate saying that the autograph or signature is authentic. VERY big deal when buying something which is supposed to be authgraphed by someone.

Wonder why they didn't include a picture of it.
http://www.psadna.com/fees.chtml

Did not know that... thanks for the info! :banana: :D

I too wonder then, why they didn't include a picture... even a low-res one.


If it was a scam, they'd get kicked from eBay and I doubt that anyone want to lose their account of 33k+ stars. Seriously, that's more valuable than $2-3k.

Good point... hadn't seen that.

xRyokenx
09-25-2007, 09:06 PM
It'll probably peak WAY over 2k. It's got over a week left.

Probably... it might hit 5k, but unless someone is desperate and really need 5k (like a guy/company with that good of a rating couldn't make that reasonably quick), then I could see it... but I really don't know much about the dude except for he has a nice rating and all. That or he/she/they were played like a fool and got ahold of fake merchandise somehow without knowing it... but I dunno, we'll see how this plays out.

EDIT: About that paper that proves the autograph is real, considering it's value, it might be a legal document and I don't think you can post pictures or the document itself on a public site... hmm...

Indybird
09-25-2007, 09:32 PM
You guys would've never guessed (Actually I wouldn't have either :p)
Its real alright. (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/h/halo3/articles/20070925-auction.htm)

-Indybird

AJ@PR
09-25-2007, 09:34 PM
You guys would've never guessed (Actually I wouldn't have either :p)
Its real alright. (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/h/halo3/articles/20070925-auction.htm)

-Indybird

It's real alright.

xRyokenx
09-25-2007, 09:43 PM
Well, that eliminates a lot of guesswork, lol. Cool.

EDIT: Who wants to bet we see at least the 360 on eBay again? This time for a lot more than before?

AJ@PR
09-25-2007, 09:51 PM
EDIT: Who wants to bet we see at least the 360 on eBay again? This time for a lot more than before?

I'll bet you a green 360 I have signed by Bill Gates!!!

Beat THAT!
HA!

xRyokenx
09-25-2007, 09:54 PM
I'll bet you a green 360 I have signed by Bill Gates!!!

Beat THAT!
HA!

Okay dude! You're on! But I don't have any green 360s signed by Bill Gates... in fact, I don't even have a 360... but I do have a slice of paper and I could draw a green 360 with a scribbly mess on it... that'd work to, right?

alexanderH
09-25-2007, 10:05 PM
I'd call it a fake only cause the signature looks like CRAP but more importantly they can only give you any indication as to it's authenticity from microsoft once you have given them 20$ of your maximum bid, and that is ONLY if Microsoft provides it for them/you.

SgtM
09-25-2007, 10:27 PM
-Indybird[/QUOTE]


I'd call it a fake only cause the signature looks like CRAP but more importantly they can only give you any indication as to it's authenticity from microsoft once you have given them 20$ of your maximum bid, and that is ONLY if Microsoft provides it for them/you.

alexanderH.. check out Indybirds link..


Its real alright. (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/h/halo3/articles/20070925-auction.htm)

Indybird
09-25-2007, 10:36 PM
Boy, Bill Gates sure has a sloppy signature. Even mine is more refined than that...

-Indybird

xRyokenx
09-25-2007, 10:38 PM
Boy, Bill Gates sure has a sloppy signature. Even mine is more refined than that...

-Indybird

Same... my dad's is crazy. You'd have to know what his name is to even possibly recognize any of the letters. That's what I'm striving towards right now, but I'd have to change some schtuff... danged credit cards, lol.

Seems to be a real casual guy though, not a worry in the world with the whole "billionaire" thing going on.

alexanderH
09-26-2007, 12:48 AM
-Indybird



alexanderH.. check out Indybirds link..


Its real alright. (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/h/halo3/articles/20070925-auction.htm)[/QUOTE]

Dunno how I missed those. Even still the auction picture looks like a white/grey console with the name printed on it. where as the microsoft site looks like permanent marker signed onto a green console.
But yeah definately has validity.

Indybird
09-26-2007, 12:26 PM
alexanderH.. check out Indybirds link..

Dunno how I missed those. Even still the auction picture looks like a white/grey console with the name printed on it. where as the microsoft site looks like permanent marker signed onto a green console.
But yeah definately has validity.

I'd say the pictures look exactly the same. Also, on that microsoft site it links to that exact ebay post.

XcOM
09-26-2007, 03:19 PM
Boy, Bill Gates sure has a sloppy signature. Even mine is more refined than that...

-Indybird

I got it for you, hold somthing the size/weight of a 360, and try to sign it, notice your sig has now changed, now factor the fact that the surface is not flat?

Spawn-Inc
09-26-2007, 03:42 PM
its already at 7400 and theres still 8 days left!!!!!!!!!! i'm going to guess it will get up to 25000-30000 price range.

Quakken
09-26-2007, 07:18 PM
It's going to break 10k easy. Probably even 15k, but I would say that it doesn't go above 20k. It's just not worth having bill gates signature, seeing as how his company is one of the great evils in the world (not even kidding. Walmart is another one of them.)

Indybird
09-26-2007, 07:47 PM
Its really more of a charity auction, then a plain auction. The idea is to bid far more than its worth. Its just now you give a lot money to a charity and get a crazy Xbox 360 and Halo 3 package.

-Indybird

Killdrath
09-27-2007, 01:40 PM
$8600 and climbing...

Crazy Buddhist
09-27-2007, 02:58 PM
It's real alright ... clicking the "missionfish" link on the auction page would have taught you that ... and now its at $8,600 ... with more than a week to go.

Methinks this one deserves a TBCS "Guess the final price" competition for fun.

Rules:
1. One entry each.
2. Winner is whoever guesses nearest - above or below. (I'm the judge)
3. In the event of an absolute to the cent tie the prize will be paid in full to each winner.
4. Post your guess in this thread.
5. NO edits or deletes of your post with the guess in once posted or its disallowed.
6. No guessing within $50 of any other guesses - check carefully or be disqualified!
6. All guesses in by 9pm London tomorrow - Friday i.e. 4pm New York/ 1pm Pacific coast.
7. Admins/Site staff, Paul, Me (i.e. everyone and anyone :) ) welcome to join.
Any arguing with the judge leads to disqualification.
8. Prize $50/£25 (I'll provide) paid by paypal.

:) happy guessing :)

Crimson Sky
09-27-2007, 07:21 PM
hehe...It's cool by me. Thanks CB!

Bucko
09-27-2007, 07:24 PM
I'll guess $26,679.67

If I win a prize, I want the money put towards the hosting costs of this site.

Crimson Sky
09-27-2007, 07:27 PM
here I'll throw in my Xbox as well into the contest to the winner!

http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/misc/pc_xbox.jpg


not.

xRyokenx
09-27-2007, 07:29 PM
Who the hell would want a broken xBox anyway? No matter if it has your signature or not, lol.

elbarto241
09-27-2007, 07:48 PM
i would.

my guess. $19,452.45 :D

Sakker
09-27-2007, 08:27 PM
Last I checked you can return that xbox and they will fix it, free I believe, plus you get another one year warranty on it. If its not free, I think its 100 bucks.

My guess would have to be $24500.02 (had to add my 2 cents)

SgtM
09-27-2007, 08:43 PM
I'll guess $12,500. +rep to CB.

Ironcat
09-27-2007, 08:43 PM
Well hell, I just want Paul's Xbox.

My guess is 10,000.00

Computer-Geek
09-27-2007, 08:47 PM
11,300 is my guess :D

Zephik
09-27-2007, 08:59 PM
$28,500

Crimson Sky
09-27-2007, 10:35 PM
i'm joking btw, its a photochop i made

Bucko
09-27-2007, 10:40 PM
i'm joking btw, its a photochop i made

NOOOOO!!!!! :p

Zephik
09-27-2007, 10:44 PM
i'm joking btw, its a photochop i made

Yea, you didn't fool me. I learned my lesson the first time around. Hint: THX Certified Snowman :rolleyes:

Crazy Buddhist
09-28-2007, 02:05 AM
I'll guess $26,679.67

If I win a prize, I want the money put towards the hosting costs of this site.

You are welcome. I'll also happily give it directly to any charity worldwide if someone who wins so wishes and has a favourite cause.

I had a weird dream last night. Victoria and David Beckham were sitting at opposite ends of their LA mansion, having had a row. They were desperately tryin to outbid each other in the last 5 minutes of the auction - each desperate to win the affection of their offspring. ... man the price went high.

:)

Omega
09-28-2007, 02:09 AM
I'll take 20,000$ USD

If I win, well, depends on how much I get tbh

I'll probably split it down the middle, half for me, half for a TBCS donation

if that's the case I'll handle it myself

unless I change my mind within the week, I'll let you know.

Greco101
09-28-2007, 02:10 AM
$9,665

Omega
09-28-2007, 02:11 AM
$9,665

That's within 50$ of 10,000 which is taken already.

Just figgur'd I'd point this out.

Greco101
09-28-2007, 02:15 AM
? lol.

Bucko
09-28-2007, 02:15 AM
That's within 50$ of 10,000 which is taken already.

Just figgur'd I'd point this out.


$9,665 is not within $50 of $10,000. It's $335 different.

Just figgur'd I'd point this out.

Omega
09-28-2007, 02:23 AM
...bah

Crazy Buddhist
09-28-2007, 02:24 AM
$9,665 is not within $50 of $10,000. It's $335 different.

Just figgur'd I'd point this out.

I was typing that while you posted it.

My advice, Omega - if you win don't try and split the donation - the math might make your brain blow up.

:D

Crazy Buddhist
09-28-2007, 02:28 AM
i'm joking btw, its a photochop i made

OH!! lol ... I wondered what the word "not." at the bottom of your post meant.

not.

:D

AJ@PR
09-28-2007, 07:22 AM
I'll guess $26,679.67

GReat. greeeaaattttt....

Now I can't choose

$26,666.66


:( :(

Bucko, be honest... you're the angel sent by god, October2007 edition.... right?
Stopping humanity from moving forward with the 666...

brb... gonna go think of another anti-world sum

calumc
09-28-2007, 07:56 AM
$19,901

dgrmkrp
09-28-2007, 08:12 AM
30000? guesstimating.. it can go higher, seeing the battles on ebay are usually waged in the last moments allowed..

Crazy Buddhist
09-28-2007, 08:50 AM
If I win, well, depends on how much I get tbh

If you win you'll get US$50. If there is an exact to the cent tie two winners will each get US$50. So ... if you win it's definitely US$50 :) rules quite clear on that.

If someone in the UK wins they will get £25. Other currencies will get £25 equivalent.

My entry is $34,000 btw while I'm here.

:)

xRyokenx
09-28-2007, 11:04 AM
One guess? Well... for the hell of it, $32,000

XcOM
09-28-2007, 11:19 AM
i guess $18,000

Crazy Buddhist
09-28-2007, 11:31 AM
One guess? Well... for the hell of it, $32k, ...

Ant you're on $32,000 ... would you please edit your post and remove the other figure so as to not confuse anyone else my friend.

:)

xRyokenx
09-28-2007, 11:59 AM
Alrighty, no problem.

EDIT: Or not, Bucko got it for me, thanks dude. Just wanted to save a post (like it matters...), heh heh.

Crazy Buddhist
09-28-2007, 04:01 PM
:) TIMES UP NO MORE ENTRIES :)

So I believe we have the following entries:

Greco101
$9,665.00
IronCat
$10,000.00
ComputerGeek
$11,300.00
SgtM
$12,500.00
XcoM
$18,000.00
Calumc
$19,001.00
Elbarto
$19,452.45
Omega
$20,000.00
Sakker
$24,500.02
Bucko
$26,679.67
Zephik
$28,500.00
dgrmkrp
$30,000.00
xRyokenx
$32,000.00
Crazy Buddhist
$34,000.00

xRyokenx
09-28-2007, 05:32 PM
Hmm... a good widespread set of guesses, not bad.

Zephik
09-29-2007, 12:31 AM
Oh man, c'mon rich people! lol I think my vote was a wee bit too high... ah well, ya never know what will happen!

Good luck to everyone! ^_^

Thanks for the contest CB! You get a +rep from me for being cool like that. ^_^

Crazy Buddhist
09-29-2007, 03:10 AM
Oh man, c'mon rich people! lol I think my vote was a wee bit too high... ah well, ya never know what will happen!

Good luck to everyone! ^_^

Thanks for the contest CB! You get a +rep from me for being cool like that. ^_^


Ah.. the fun of the draw ... too high .. too low ... nobody knows. There's plenty of people with DUMB amounts of money who might get in a bidding war to get an ego-kick off winning ;) and as a one-off and a charity auction ...

Thanks for the rep dude. :)

Blebbz
09-29-2007, 09:29 AM
Lets go nuts...
$37,000.00

Crazy Buddhist
09-29-2007, 09:42 AM
Lets go nuts...
$37,000.00

Sorry Blebbz - deadlines over comp closed to competitors :(

Next time :)

Crazy Buddhist
09-29-2007, 12:14 PM
You better no be fixing this competetion by actually buying ot for $34,000... Bucko

lool what a dumbass way to save £25 hehehehhehe thanks for making me giggle man.

Greco101
10-02-2007, 08:32 PM
lmao

Zephik
10-03-2007, 12:12 AM
Okay, lame. I swear the price has gone down, not up. lol

Psh, this game is rigged! :p

Crazy Buddhist
10-03-2007, 07:35 AM
Okay, lame. I swear the price has gone down, not up. lol

Psh, this game is rigged! :p

The price has stayed the same [edit: No it hadn't ~ I think blame lays with this systems cache]. Looks like Greco gonna have an easy win at this rate ... but I would be quite surprised if it doesn't jump towards the end.

:)

Bucko
10-03-2007, 07:39 AM
Elbarto
£19,452.45

Well he's got no chance! They aren't even selling it in pounds! :p

Torn
10-03-2007, 07:43 AM
just to quickly change the subject back, i got this off C-Net http://www.cnet.com.au/i/g/339273281/sc004.jpg

its the first ever copy of vista to sell in australia. its "vista ultimate" Signature eddition :O :O :O :O :O

and if its on Cnet. it should be bills siggy, looks like the sig on my MCP certificate anyway.

Torn
10-03-2007, 07:46 AM
oops. i just read the whole topic.

i feel like a twat!

hehe

Crazy Buddhist
10-03-2007, 01:17 PM
Well he's got no chance! They aren't even selling it in pounds! :p

I stand corrected ... and so does my post :) thx Bucko

XcOM
10-03-2007, 07:08 PM
that was at 8k last week, what happened?

Crazy Buddhist
10-03-2007, 07:26 PM
that was at 8k last week, what happened?

**** happens. fake bidder? Still don't think it will go for only 1k over book value. Could be some bidding tomorrow. I only ever bid in the last 15 - 30 seconds of an ebay auction for example. And I am not alone. Recently was in a bidding war where another person and I each bid three times in the last 30 seconds.

:)

Crazy Buddhist
10-04-2007, 02:47 PM
that was at 8k last week, what happened?

wtf???? it's back at 8,4k with 4hours to go.

Matthew

dgrmkrp
10-04-2007, 06:43 PM
closing is close :) and it is still at 8,4.. hmm..
I was just browsing ebay and hit the link, again.. funny :) Then I see this thread.. again ;)
it's gonna be a hell of a bidding if they all try it in the last second.

Greco101
10-04-2007, 07:21 PM
Awesome! I won! I never win anything haha. :o)

Bucko
10-04-2007, 07:22 PM
It's ended with $8,400 being the winning bid.

Crazy Buddhist
10-04-2007, 10:15 PM
:bunny: :bunny: :bunny: :bunny: :bunny: :bunny: :bunny: :bunny:

Greco !!! Congratulations

:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

PM me an addy for yr winnings dude

:)

Greco101
10-05-2007, 12:03 AM
These forums are definitely a better place with the CB. Thanks again man for making these forums even more exciting.

Crazy Buddhist
10-05-2007, 12:43 AM
These forums are definitely a better place with the CB. Thanks again man for making these forums even more exciting.

Oh damn .... that's just giving me more ego to deal with .... seriously thanks for the compliment ... I do my bit wherever I may be

N-Joy spending the winnings Greco .... that was fun. Post a picture of whatever bit of geekery you spend it on.

:)

Greco101
10-06-2007, 10:27 AM
It helped pay for my new psp :o)

These things are pretty awesome! I've never seen them play before, the graphics are way beyond my expectations out of a little handheld.