Forum poster visited by secret service after an angry post...

[tybrenis]

Hey guys!

I'm a frequent member of bodybuilding.com forums as well as these, and you wouldn't believe what recently happened on the forums. Someone made a threat against bush and look what happened:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5221813

[Mitternacht]

Best thing to do is not say it at all. What a dumbass. you say anything online, (secrets, phone #'s and addresses, etc.) you might as well say it in public.

[armadilloben]

funniest thing all week do u think this will get to AOTS?

[tybrenis]

funniest thing all week do u think this will get to AOTS?

Ha! I hope so

[Mitternacht]

Maybe he'll be having his Best Week Ever!

[armadilloben]

that well b real funny if it gets on aots or bwe ty if u get interviewed for aots which be awesome mention me lol:p

[SgtM]

Dee dee dee!

Thank you.

[jdbnsn]

Although it is possible that it's genuine, there are some things there that scream BS. For one, the Secret Service usually doesn't track threats like these themselves, that is usually forwarded to the FBI for apprehension who has much more vast resources for this kind of thing. Another thing is that the Patriot Act allows the federal investigation branches the ability to seek information without cause, permission, or notification. It seems unlikely to me for federal investigators to be asking so nicely for help getting info that most half decent hackers could get in 10 minutes. If anyone has every dealt with the CIA, FBI, (and I don't know much about the Secret Service, but they are more the shoot first and check ID's later branch) they would understand that the negotiation tactics used by these people are frighteningly aggresive. When they need info, they demand it. If refused they are usually given unpleasant ultimnatums. I doubt the federal gov took this post too seriously, but if it really was them, and they were really concerned, I find it extremely unusual to have a message from the department allowed to be posted in the forums even with the name edited out. My guess is it's an admins technique of a scare tactic to keep that crazy talk off his forums. But I don't know, it could be real.

[.Maleficus.]

What an idiot. He just made himself look like the biggest jackass in America. I hope he suffers an eternity of prison sex with a guy named Bruno.

I love how he's making the anti-Bush remarks. "We need a smarter President! Look at how stupid he is!!!" The pot calling the kettle black.

It amazes me how dumb some people can be...

[tybrenis]

Jon, you might be absolutely correct. I doubt this as well - there has been talk about it being fake and you cite some very valid arguments for that side. While it could be real, it would actually just be a typical joke of the Misc section of BB.com... thats a crazy, crazy place.

[noopypoop]

Although it is possible that it's genuine, there are some things there that scream BS. For one, the Secret Service usually doesn't track threats like these themselves, that is usually forwarded to the FBI for apprehension who has much more vast resources for this kind of thing. Another thing is that the Patriot Act allows the federal investigation branches the ability to seek information without cause, permission, or notification. It seems unlikely to me for federal investigators to be asking so nicely for help getting info that most half decent hackers could get in 10 minutes. If anyone has every dealt with the CIA, FBI, (and I don't know much about the Secret Service, but they are more the shoot first and check ID's later branch) they would understand that the negotiation tactics used by these people are frighteningly aggresive. When they need info, they demand it. If refused they are usually given unpleasant ultimnatums. I doubt the federal gov took this post too seriously, but if it really was them, and they were really concerned, I find it extremely unusual to have a message from the department allowed to be posted in the forums even with the name edited out. My guess is it's an admins technique of a scare tactic to keep that crazy talk off his forums. But I don't know, it could be real.

i dunno. im on 2 sides about this. what you said is probably true, but i dont think it would be in anyway legal for someone to fake on a site that the FBI of CIA was involved. also people posted pics of thier enty form to the FBI i personnaly dont no. all i no, i he's a retard. as jon said, the FBI takes info by force, this kid thought just juz he was in school they cant find him. all the FBI has to do is make a little phone call to his school and he gets his ass in jail. :banana:YAY the ontother danger to society is locked up so we can be safe:banana:

[crenn]

Does this mean if I insult/joke about bush, I get a free trip to the US?

If so, damn, that's what I've been doing wrong!

[noopypoop]

Does this mean if I insult/joke about bush, I get a free trip to the US?

If so, damn, that's what I've been doing wrong!

lol yea ule go to america, but then get ure ass rped in jail for 10 years

[tybrenis]

If anyone hadn't seen, the admins posted a picture with the SS agent.

[noopypoop]

If anyone hadn't seen, the admins posted a picture with the SS agent.

yea i saw that, thats why i think its real. they wouldnt be able to fake a picture of an ss agent without runninginto some legal issues

[Quakken]

I think it's real, and the post that they link to on BB has been edited by the OP, I believe. Pretty sure that the secret service doesn't just SHOW UP ON YOUR DOORSTEP for saying "i hate the president" with some f bombs and random editing thrown in. If they do, then it's a clear violation of free speech if this goes to trial. However, since he has edited his original post, he probably said something to the effect of "we should kill the president".

Also, he thought he was protected by posting that post from a school computer.

I laughed in my head. Like they can't find his house from his IP address he usually posts on.

edit- or perhaps he posted this image- http://www.rondak.org/Images/diary-pix/rooftops.jpg

[noopypoop]

i saw some of the original post. someone quoted it on the first page before it got edited

[Quakken]

** NEW INFO! **

If he's such a "secret agent", why does he just let people take pics of him? Huh? HUH?

THIS CASE HAS JUST BEEN BLOWN OPEN!!

[D1337]

Im willing to bet its fake, the admin is probably sick of hearing bush rants (as am i) and wanted to teach one of the annoying members a lesson.

Some of the comments other members made, were hilarious.

[Luke122]

Best post ever: First response to the OP.

"IBFBI" and the logo image. Priceless. :D

[noopypoop]

here, look at post # 16. it shows the original

[computergeek19]

is funny how he is scared when he finds out they contect the FBI and he's all scared and sorry. some of the pics are hilarious too.

[Airbozo]

After showing this to my Father-in-law (retired FBI), he calls BS. They would know _everything_ about this person "including the length of his skidmarks" before they ever let him know they were there. Then they would have fun watching him create MORE skidmarks before throwing him to the legal system. They would have made direct contact with the proper people, NOT some admin. Believe me they know who runs the company and would NOT have to ask. Besides, according to the F-i-l, the SS agent would not be dressed like that.

I call BS too.

[jdbnsn]

That was my impression also.

[XcOM]

it seemed that way inclined

[Dilphat]

whether or not it is fake or real. all i know is that that guy must be sweating out and crapping bricks.

[Airbozo]

While we are on the subject of fbi, ss and such, here is a good story my F-I-L told me years ago;

While in the FBI, the FIL was assigned to bank robbery duty working out of an office in SF. In his building was the FBI office, the SS office and a Credit union for law enforcement employees. One day he was in the CU filling out a deposit form and when he looked to his left he noticed a suspicious person (everyone is suspicious to the fbi), as he watched the guy approach the counter he noticed the guy get really nervous and was fiddling with something in his coat pocket. To his complete surprise, the guy pulled out a robbery note and handed it to the teller. The FIL walked up right behind the guy weapon drawn and pointed it at the back of his head and announced who he was. The robber literally **** his pants when he felt the cold steel of the gun on the back of his neck... Turns out there were a dozen other customers in the bank, ALL of them FBI, SS or local PD. The bank had a still taken from the surveillance camera and framed it as a thank you present to the FIL. If the guy would have done his homework he would have realized that he was in a credit union whose members were almost 100% law enforcement... What a tool!

[xRyokenx]

Hahaha, what a dumbass. Most FBI stories and all are fun to read/listen to, keep 'em comin'! So long as it's nothing classified or whatever, of course.

[Airbozo]

Not too many are classified. When I met him looong ago, he was still in the FBI and I got to ride along with him a couple of times while he was _supposed_ to be under cover. Got to see a briefcase full of money one day. More than I will ever see in one place again.

[jdbnsn]

Great freaking story! I'd love to see that pic.

[Airbozo]

Great freaking story! I'd love to see that pic.

I asked. He won't let me post it. Privacy issues and all that. As a matter of fact ALL of his girls (4 of them, I married the oldest) still have privacy locks in place even on their drivers licenses. Last time I went with the SO to renew her DL, the clerk behind the counter could not even pull up her info without a supervisor password.

He still has to worry about some of the privacy issues since there are still a bunch of people angry that they were put in jail.

BUT, if you ever come out for an extended visit, I could take you to dinner there and have him break out the photo's. He has great stories even from his current job at SUN. Very funny that most of the crooks get caught because they they do stupid things that come back to bite them. And I mean REALLY stupid stuff...

[jdbnsn]

I'll definately take you up on that offer, I'll have to schedule a rotation out there in Cali so we can hang out and talk secrets :)

[Crazy Buddhist]

That "Secret Service Agent" has just blown his cover .... not very secret but very smiley ... methinks me smells manure.

:)

[jdbnsn]

I don't think there is anything to this story, but I wanted to ask this question. To my knowledge, Secret Servicemen don't have silent identities do they? I wasn't aware that their identities were classified as they are just high-end snipers, not expected to do undercover work. Is that correct? Or are they classified identities?

[Airbozo]

Hmmm, good question. I know (or used to know) a couple of SS guys and there was no secret who they worked for. When I lived in Denver, my bank building was also used by the SS and they had name tags to that effect. That is how I met the 2 I knew, riding in the elevator with my skate... One of them turned out to be quite the downhill racer.