Don't we all love Mac owners...

[Scotty]

Well you can find them funny but when your the only PC Nerd in your graphics course even the teachers get in arguments. Heres one reason i get more and more annoyed. A recent MSN convo.

*WARNING BAD LANGUAGE X) *

*cut out start of it as that was more rubbish*

Me: Photoshops going slow...

Them: Why?

Me: Got a 1.3GB .psd open in it

Them: So? (obviosly have no idea how big a GB really is)

Me: So its going slow

Them: Its because you have Windows

Me:*cough*bollox*cough*

Them: No my mac would run it fine.

Me: NO, it wouldn't.

Them: Yea it would

Me: Lets see my PC Quad core @ 3.3GHz better than Dual core at 1.8GHz by ALOT, 2GB Memory @ 730Mhz better than 1GB @ 553 or 667 by ALOT! (probably just confused the hell out of them ^.^)

Them: That means nothing mac software (think they meant OS) is better Adobe programs run better and everything (oh god..)

Me: bla bla bla, my hardware > your hardware
Them: So windows makes mine better than yours because its crap

Me: Rubbish, this file would kill your mac. END. Of. Convo.

Them: No it wouldn't prove it

Me: OK ill put it on my pen drive for Thursday

Them:that wont work

Me: why the **** not?

Them: Because its made on a pc!

Me: OFFS! We have been through his ****! (yea another convo just as long...)

Them: Whatever

Me: Idiot.

Me *blocks them* (till i want another argument)

So don't we love how Apple has screwed the minds of humans? I think so...

The really super duperly uberly awesome thing is, since my course started, i make 6 new Mac owners (5 Macbooks, 1 Macbook pro) and one guy also bought a iMac. Now i can live with Macs but in so many ways they are not God.

Also i took my Wacom to college, now everyone has to have one (i make one person who has bought one already)

For some reason a Mac makes you a better designer and a Wacom tablet makes you a better artist. I love this... *rolleyes smilie* <we need one

[Omega]

Remember the great Einstein quote:

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and the human stupidity, and I'm not so sure about the former"

=p

[Drum Thumper]

Also remember Murphy's 12th law:

Nothing is foolproof, because fools are so ingenious.

So, how did this end? Did you break out the wtfpwn on the Mac?

[Omega]

Also remember Murphy's 12th law:

Nothing is foolproof, because fools are so ingenious.

So, how did this end? Did you break out the wtfpwn on the Mac?

"Make something foolproof, and the world will make a better fool." - Anon

[noopypoop]

Lol people in my town are like that. Heres an example



*this actually happpened*


my friend: My new mac is so awsome.

Me:cool, im getting a new computer too

my friend: oh dude listen, buy the apple 21''

me:what model?

my friend:the apple 21''!

me:*slaps head* thats not the model, thats the monitor size. You could get any new mac with a 21'' monitor, i just wanted to know the specs...

friend:oh.. well macs are so fast!

me:not as fast as the computer im getting

friend: but macs are so fast! there cant be anything faster!

me: well im building my computer..... putting all the high end parts in it

friend:*jaw drops* OMFG your building a computer!!??!! Woah dont you need experiance and like metal and like a factory!!???

me:um no acually its quite easy, you need to buy parts,put em together and load the software on.

friend:It cant be easy, theres no way you could be building a computer.Dont you need to be like a college graduate to know the skills? I dont believe you *walks away*

[Omega]

The best part about mac owners is proving them wrong. There's nothing like converting one, either. I did that. He had macs up until he was 15 but he liked FPSes a lot. I gave him a parts list and taught him how to build a PC. He's a believer now. ;)

[Scotty]

Its official Mac owners = dumbest people on earth.

Noopy i know when i told people at my college id just built a new computer they were all like yea whatever. and watrcooling turns conversations like this.

He's got water in it to cool it, followed by, is that dangerous aren't their electrics in computers... sheesh.

I love Mac owners that are POSITIVE there are no mac virus' btw if someone could find me one that i can safely download to my PC and shove it on my pen drive ill rep ya ;) lmao

Lol @ omegas second quote, they invented me i reckon >.<

[calumc]

Scotty just so you never get tempted in the world of design I can tell you that not all of them design types are mac fanatics. My uncle has worked for publishing companies around the world and to this day he has refused to do a days work on a mac :) (the sad thing is he gave up trying to convert people many moons ago...)

I just had a strange thought: can you imagine a mac user confronted my a linux system with no DE....:evil::evil::evil:

[NightrainSrt4]

I am a mac owner. Granted I have pc's as well, and quite a few of them, as well as linux boxes.

You guys are acting just as ignorant as them by proclaiming that

Its official Mac owners = dumbest people on earth..

At this point, its a darn operating system and a bios/efi difference. Not much else different.


People in general are retarded.

I could point out way more retarded pc users than mac users, but that is simply due to userbase. People in general are the issue, not the mac owners.

And although not the king of everything, I'd like to see how an average pc built by one of us compares to a dual quad mac pro...but thats just that those are sick computers.



Just, by saying mac owners are retarded or whatever, your no better than the uneducated people.

[Scotty]

Ive used Mac Pros with 2x 2GHz Xeons and 3GB of Ram, my PC destroys them at a fraction of the cost, i don't like overpriced hardware i will never own my own mac.

edit:

K not all mac owners, i don't mean to offend any one, nor did i mean very mac owner, its just those people who know no better or are so defensive. I know ALOT of mac coverts, yet they like it, i accept that they don't go boasting about it, its just the people who aren't nerds/geeks i guess.

[Zephik]

Ive used Mac Pros with 2x 2GHz Xeons and 3GB of Ram, my PC destroys them at a fraction of the cost, i don't like overpriced hardware i will never own my own mac.

yea.. but.. they're so pretty!

oh wait, yea thats right, we're modders aren't we? We're the apple of the pc world. ...except that, you know, we have better taste. ;)

[NightrainSrt4]

K not all mac owners, i don't mean to offend any one, nor did i mean very mac owner, its just those people who know no better or are so defensive. I know ALOT of mac coverts, yet they like it, i accept that they don't go boasting about it, its just the people who aren't nerds/geeks i guess.

Its cool. Its just you guys were starting to get on the mac bashing train :banana: and didn't want you guys to get too lost in ignorance. :think:

PC/Linux/Mac/Unix users have the same faults, hence my saying its not the computer, its the person.

[calumc]

The thing i dont like about macs is that theyre so locked down, windows offers a slight improvement on this but i do think it takes a different kind of person to dive into the bowels of a linux os a **** about with it

[xRyokenx]

Here we go: Hey, can a Mac play Crysis? No? How about any other games not made by Blizzard? Only other crap game? Okay, thanks, I'm not interested. :D

[NightrainSrt4]

Here we go: Hey, can a Mac play Crysis? No? How about any other games not made by Blizzard? Only other crap game? Okay, thanks, I'm not interested. :D

Yes it can.

[xRyokenx]

It can? Did they make a Mac version of it or something? I still like my PC though, I'm experienced with it, lol.

[NightrainSrt4]

Macs can now run windows. Boot camp as one example.

[Scotty]

It can play it if you shove Windows on it, but technically thats Windows.

[xRyokenx]

Huh. That's an interesting bit of info... is it just an emulator or is it a full install on the computer itself?

[NightrainSrt4]

As I said before, the only real difference is the OS. :D

Edit: Ryo: You can do a full install of windows on the new macs. Or run a virtual machine. My laptop for school I run Mac OS X for most things and then use windows for programming simply because I am more accustomed to the environment.

Its pretty much the same way you would dual boot Windows and linux. Or Xp and Vista. Same type of situation.

[Scotty]

Its a full install, when you think of it, what differs with the hardware? nothing really, RAM is RAM, CPUs are CPUs and now thats Intel, so really its a windows machine with a different OS and in a aluminum or white package.

Just like if you really wanted you can install OSX on your PC, but it's illegal.

[NightrainSrt4]

I like the mac because I have any environment I need to test on right on one machine. You can't do that legally on a pc. Least not install OS X on a pc. Edit: you beat me to that one.

I agree, I prefer windows much more, but there are times I want/need to test things on different OS's. Or just to tinker or whatever.

For desktop machines, PC all the way.

For laptops, you can't upgrade a pc laptop anymore than a mac laptop. I don't game on a laptop, because I found it pointless. I was tied to an outlet the whole time so it was pointless anyway.

Personally I will stick with Apple laptops, and pc desktops. Having multiple OS's on the laptop is useful to me, something I can't do with a pc laptop, and quite honestly the pc laptop offers me NOTHING more than the mac when you negate the gaming situation.

Edit: Although, if OS X gets released for any laptop, I will probably get a pc laptop. Less apple gives me the goodies like they did with this laptop. Free printer + ipod made the difference if I wasn't concerned with having OS X.

[Luke122]

I'm also a Mac owner, though it's only a recent thing. To be honest though, it's really quite easy to do pretty much anything.

Will it outperform a similarly priced ($650 CAD) PC? Not likely...

Can my mother run it? Yes. That means alot.


Mac mini's are cheap.. get one and try it.

[NightrainSrt4]

True, while running windows technically it is a windows machine.

Here is why I went with the mac.

Mac Laptop
OS X
Windows
'nix's

PC Laptop
Windows
'nix's

I am talking legally anyway.




But it doesn't really matter. We all just confirmed what I said. The machine isn't the issue as they are all the same. Its the people. :D

[Scotty]

I can see why you went with a laptop, the people that have bought these macs now hate PCs, instantly =\ You get the retards that cant even use Windows or OSX so they shouldn't be on the course...

Thing is for me ive learnt 2 hard drives + is much better for any program if set up correctly, therefore unless Apple made a laptop with 2 hard dirve spaces in i wont buy one (my current lappy only has 1 hdd at 5400rpm, it sucks balls compared to 2 7200rpm drives and a 10k rpm raptor :(), also it's overpriced which is one major put off point, im cheap ya see ;)

[slytherock]

I believe it's more the Mac owners in general who's stupid (let's say ignorant...)

1 reason I always hear: It's so much easier, I don't have time to waste learning windows...
(I must say that I don't understand that one myself; if I remember well, m$ is not on basic anymore...)

Second reason: you can do anything with a Mac
(Maybe that's why you're so limited...)

Third reason: Don't talk to me about your stupid Linux
(OS X is based on Unix...)

I can go like that all day long: my Boss is a total Mac boy, but he can't understand anything about his computer. I just gave up, and accepted the G4 he gave me :D

[noopypoop]

I dont get why it would be illegal if(i think) they sell OS X in a store. Is it illegal to build a pc and load OS X? If so,whats the point of retailing it when you can only put it on a mac which are are pre built?

[Drum Thumper]

I'm thinking it has to do with a bit of reverse engineering, due to OSX not running natively on X86 architecture.

And that's all I'm going to say about that, for fear of pissing off the admins.

[NightrainSrt4]

I believe it's more the Mac owners in general who's stupid (let's say ignorant...)

You really believe the ownership of the mac is the issue of the situation?

If they were a windows user they would be totally different?

[Quakken]

Lets get this straight- For video editing, apple SOFTWARE beats the pants off of any windows program for video editing and effects. Motion, color, Final cut pro and garage band and other studios make for a very VERY nice editing experience, not to mention far easier to use for that. If you want to spend somewhere around $4k on an apple pro g4 and the finalcut software.

Other than some other editing software, everything else a mac can do, you can do on a windows pc (for less $ many of the times). I am currently using an apple pro in school with finalcut pro studio, and it is far easier than anything microsoft or other third party developers have put out for windows.

That's it. Somebody telling you that macs are inherently better than windows at anything except user interface and virus-protection is not the smartest person in the world.

And the fact that somebody said "you can't build a computer! Don't you have to go to college first?" is probably the best thing i have heard all day.

[slytherock]

You really believe the ownership of the mac is the issue of the situation?

If they were a windows user they would be totally different?

Ok, my language is the problem here, sorry... I mean MOST of the mac owner.... Is that better? ;)



Lets get this straight- For video editing, apple SOFTWARE beats the pants off of any windows program for video editing and effects. Motion, color, Final cut pro and garage band and other studios make for a very VERY nice editing experience, not to mention far easier to use for that. If you want to spend somewhere around $4k on an apple pro g4 and the finalcut software.

Other than some other editing software, everything else a mac can do, you can do on a windows pc (for less $ many of the times). I am currently using an apple pro in school with finalcut pro studio, and it is far easier than anything microsoft or other third party developers have put out for windows.

That's it. Somebody telling you that macs are inherently better than windows at anything except user interface and virus-protection is not the smartest person in the world.

Don't make me start on this, Final cut is nice but nothing more. Get your hand on Avid, and then we'll talk. Yes I know, you can have it on Mac, but, it's not as fast as on a PC. Trust me, I've tried. On my last big project I end up bringing my PC at work cause the super, big, extra, magnificent Mac couldn't handle it.

[Quakken]

but... finalcut pro has so many tools and is easy to use... plus its pretty.

wait... oh... oh no...

they've got me too...

*slaps self*

[Scotty]

The only difference is the programs, Programs make nothing its the user, i've seen people that can do amazing things in MS paint yet theres tards that think so of the stuff they have done in Photoshop is awesome, its like they think owning Photoshop just makes you better. It doesn't.

And one main reason why Macs should be condemned.

NO RIGHT CLICK!

Dumbest thing ever.

[.Maleficus.]

I dont get why it would be illegal if(i think) they sell OS X in a store. Is it illegal to build a pc and load OS X? If so,whats the point of retailing it when you can only put it on a mac which are are pre built?
You can buy OSX in a store. You CAN'T however, put it on an x86 machine. The architecture is different, and it just plain won't work. Like putting an AGP card in a PCI-E slot. Doesn't fit.

Now that being said, there was a leaked dev release of OSX that WOULD work on x86 (ie, AMD and Intel PCs), but it's 1) illegal to download/use and 2) sucks. Don't even bother with it. If you really want a Mac (and unless it's free I don't see why you would..) just buy one.

Regarding the thread: I'll stick to Linux and light XP thank you very much. If I can find someone at school with a copy of Vista maybe I'll do some Vista trial, but for now, I'm good with FC7 and XP.


BTW - Don't talk more about the illegal OSX. I've said too much as it is.

[Crimson Sky]

Ok, my language is the problem here, sorry... I mean MOST of the mac owner.... Is that better? ;)

Don't make me start on this, Final cut is nice but nothing more. Get your hand on Avid, and then we'll talk.

Agreed Avid is the absolute defacto editing platform for pro video. Final Cut is nothing more than a colored jelly-buttoned-goatee-faced-hippy widget compared to it.

[Airbozo]

We have a customer in Hollywood that develops and builds a device for transferring digital video to film and visa versa. In house they use SGI systems for editing and dual opteron workstations running linux for the editing machine that gets sent to customers with the transfer device. They dropped all the macs due to price and performance. They told us they can get better performance at half the price by using a windows box.

I am neither a mac hater or lover. I got turned off by them long ago when trying to make a serial connection to a server and not being able to directly edit the speed and flow control. I needed my dos prompt to make things work right. I never went back due to the cost. I still think that whatever tool works to twist the screw most efficiently for the user is THE best tool. If that means you only have one mouse button, so be it so long as it does the job.

I have a friend that makes a pretty good living doing programming and web design. His main platform is a MAC, but he still fires up the windows box to test and verify code (I could tell it hurt badly when he asked me to put together a system for him). Again, right tool for the job.

[Xpirate]

I could point out way more retarded pc users than mac users, but that is simply due to userbase. People in general are the issue, not the mac owners.

Well said. You have wisdom beyond your years.

[Scotty]

If its the damn people, why do we allow them to live >.< :P

Oh yea because the world isn't perfect Scott, it truly is failure.

Yes i am talking to myself.

[LiTHiUM0XiD3]

OOOOOO Over priced proprietary hardware with crap software????? where do i get some???? sign me up???? u wanna experience a mac with some real horsepower.... look up the OSX 86 project.... and b4 i have admin jump waist deep down my throat.... buy a copy of osx and mod it for pc... cuz if u use warez.....ur penis will shrivel up and kittens everywhere will laugh at u.... macs look great.. the software looks great... dont look all gaudy and **** like MS..... but its a pure fact it is not virus proof heh...and there isnt a point of messing with mac ppl.... if something goes wrong... they take it into a mac store.... point at it... and go fix it..... then the magic mac man fixes it all for them....

macs cant be modded..... they r too expensive and a waste of time..... i say we ban all macs from this forum..... let the unmodded rot in ..... modders anti hell???? lolz j/k...... but honestly.... i hate macs because i hate macs..... not because of their annoying users who r soo wrapped up in commercials spoutin BS about why its a good calculator.... i mean computer... i will always hate macs...
and i will always hate bill gates.....( ye i know soundz like i hate both parties)
(monopolizing prats)
linux ftw...... pzout
(oh ye.... and ur oooo so beloved OSX...... ye thats based majorly on linux...... BSD technicaly.......)

[Airbozo]

OOOOOO Over priced proprietary hardware with crap software????? where do i get some???? sign me up???? u wanna experience a mac with some real horsepower.... look up the OSX 86 project.... and b4 i have admin jump waist deep down my throat.... buy a copy of osx and mod it for pc... cuz if u use warez.....ur penis will shrivel up and kittens everywhere will laugh at u.... macs look great.. the software looks great... dont look all gaudy and **** like MS..... but its a pure fact it is not virus proof heh...and there isnt a point of messing with mac ppl.... if something goes wrong... they take it into a mac store.... point at it... and go fix it..... then the magic mac man fixes it all for them....

macs cant be modded..... they r too expensive and a waste of time..... i say we ban all macs from this forum..... let the unmodded rot in ..... modders anti hell???? lolz j/k...... but honestly.... i hate macs because i hate macs..... not because of their annoying users who r soo wrapped up in commercials spoutin BS about why its a good calculator.... i mean computer... i will always hate macs...
and i will always hate bill gates.....( ye i know soundz like i hate both parties)
(monopolizing prats)
linux ftw...... pzout
(oh ye.... and ur oooo so beloved OSX...... ye thats based majorly on linux...... BSD technicaly.......)


Man that is hard to read...

...but yes you are right, OSX is based entirely on freeBSD (slightly different than just BSD). In fact one of the creators of freeBSD is the lead for the OSX division.

[NightrainSrt4]

And one main reason why Macs should be condemned.

NO RIGHT CLICK!

Dumbest thing ever.

There may not be a right click button, but there is now right click functionality and there has been for a while. Ctrl+click or 2 finger touchpad click if your on a laptop. The latter I find very easy on the macbook.

Get a two button mouse and hook it up to the mac and there you go. 8)


I've never understood people who are like, I hate macs, or I hate PC's or linux Sux.

The funny thing is that in most cases of this attitude, they always fall back on the operating system they started with/spent most of their time learning and working with and every other OS is teh suxorz.

[slytherock]

I've never understood people who are like, I hate macs, or I hate PC's or linux Sux.

Totally agree. That's why, at home, I run XP on 3 machines, OSX on another one and the last one with Fedora.

[NightrainSrt4]

I have 2 macs, 4 pc's, and 2 linux boxes, and I used to have an old unix based box. Least i think thats all of them. And there really isn't one that I prefer over another.

Gaming rigs I like to have xp on. Tried my copy of vista, but didn't care for it around launch time, but I will soon try it again.

Macs, of course are native OS's. Except my macbook as I mentioned has multiple OS's for anything I might need at school.

And Linux boxes for tinkering. I also like to use linux for computers I donate as I don't have to worry about giving away any of the few licenses I have for xp and whatnot.

I use them all, and they all have their own benefits/weaknesses, its learning what they are and working around them.

[Drum Thumper]

OOOOOO Over priced proprietary hardware with crap software????? where do i get some???? sign me up???? u wanna experience a mac with some real horsepower.... look up the OSX 86 project.... SNIP

Whoa. You're talking about breaking an EULA. Uh, please not here. Rules are rules after all.

[Airbozo]

The funny thing is that in most cases of this attitude, they always fall back on the operating system they started with/spent most of their time learning and working with and every other OS is teh suxorz.

In that case you would all be using CPM on your green screen text monitor with lynx. Or OS32, flipping switches for data entry, interpreting paper tape reader output.

[Airbozo]

Whoa. You're talking about breaking an EULA. Uh, please not here. Rules are rules after all.

Possibly, but probably not. Apple quietly allows this. (meaning they don't support it but also don't discourage it)

They will reap the benefit of the OSX x86 project in the long run and they know it. That is why they _allow_ it to happen. Apple is/has been very litigious when it comes to their OS and hardware. More so than many other companies. If they wanted to do something about the OSX x86 project they probably would have stepped in by now. But then again it is based on a "free" OS, so some recourse may not be possible due to the original license.

I will have to ask my Apple friend how they view it and about the license since he was one of the guys that drafted the original license for freeBSD.

[Scotty]

Right click as control click is annoying. I have to use it, but then theres cmd key for the control key sort of, which is technically the windows key in place of the alt key which does nothing like any of any of those do.

If that made sense, you are as dumb as me :P

You say hook a 2 button mouse up, there was one with a microsoft mouse, right click still didn't work...

[Luke122]

Airbozo = greatest industry contact of all time.

[noopypoop]

I still dont get it though..... is OSX being sold retail just to update from the older Mac OS's?

[Quakken]

Okay. I admit it- avid is amazingly awesome.
Thank you for proving me right. I no longer want a mac. The only thing they do better now is virus protection and easy-to-useness interface (as well as marketing proprietary software and hardware- they're far too good at that)

[Scotty]

No one needs virus protection if your smart.

Windows is easy, you're just being a girl about it.

[Airbozo]

Airbozo = greatest industry contact of all time.

Hehe. I am working on it.

Seriously, when you have worked at as many companies as I have, in as many different job titles, you would have to be deaf dumb, blind and stoned not to meet all of these people. OK so the Apple contact was a neighbor...
The wife is surprised by all the CEO's, CFO's and CTO's as well as high level engineers and directors she meets as a recruiter, that live in our tiny little town.

Speaking of which, I have been at my current job for more than 4 years! This is a personal record for me by almost a year! Time to find another job...

[Airbozo]

No one needs virus protection if your smart.

Windows is easy, you're just being a girl about it.

A couple of years ago I did a test concerning this. I installed windows XP SP2 on a system, then connected it directly to my network modem, bypassing the firewall/router. Before I could finish downloading and install all of the security patches, the system was already infected with virus' and trojans. Did the same test behind the firewall and that system never got a virus until I clicked on an email sent to me by a friend. The image he sent me had an embedded virus. Not a pron image, but damn close.

[.Maleficus.]

@ AB: Sometime I'd like a list of the jobs you've had. Just to see what all you've done, because it seems like you've done almost everything.

@ the thread: I was under the impression at OSX86 was illegal. But, I see how it could be considered legal if it's based on the BSD license.

@ noopy: I believe what they sell are upgrades, though I'm not certain. It's not like you'd buy a barebones Mac, so...

[Drum Thumper]

Possibly, but probably not. Apple quietly allows this. (meaning they don't support it but also don't discourage it)

They will reap the benefit of the OSX x86 project in the long run and they know it. That is why they _allow_ it to happen. Apple is/has been very litigious when it comes to their OS and hardware. More so than many other companies. If they wanted to do something about the OSX x86 project they probably would have stepped in by now. But then again it is based on a "free" OS, so some recourse may not be possible due to the original license.

I will have to ask my Apple friend how they view it and about the license since he was one of the guys that drafted the original license for freeBSD.

Hmm. I was under the impression that Apple's MO specifically forbade this. Can't recall where I got that idea from, I *think* it came from researching DRM for one of my college papers.

And yes, they do stand to benefit from this big time. Also, it has been pointed out that if they didn't want this to happen, they would have made it a whole lot harder to crack.

Thanks for the heads up AB!

[Quakken]

Before I could finish downloading and install all of the security patches, the system was already infected with virus' and trojans. Did the same test behind the firewall and that system never got a virus until I clicked on an email sent to me by a friend.

http://xkcd.com/350/

Reminded me too much, having a virus-quarium would almost be cool if they had visual representations and didn't completely thrash your system after a little while (you can't have fish that destroy the glass bowl they are in, it just doesn't work).

And is windows really that easy to get stuff onto? It would be cool to do an actual timed experiment of this, see exactly how long it takes for an XPSP2 computer to get its first virus from first connecting to the internet and then how long it takes to become a zombie or just die completely.

Research paper, anyone?

[LiTHiUM0XiD3]

thnx for point out the facts AB

[Scotty]

@Terry, Firewall isn't AV though ;)

I still use AV but its not like AVG is resource hungry.

[Xpirate]

And is windows really that easy to get stuff onto? It would be cool to do an actual timed experiment of this, see exactly how long it takes for an XPSP2 computer to get its first virus from first connecting to the internet and then how long it takes to become a zombie or just die completely.


It would depend on how many questionable websites you visit. If you look for software cracks or hardcore pornography, you'll get problems very quickly. If you only go to reputable websites, you can go for a very long time without ever getting a virus.

[Airbozo]

@Terry, Firewall isn't AV though ;)

I still use AV but its not like AVG is resource hungry.

True true, but with my firewall device, no one can "see" or even get into my system. On my current gaming rig, I never even installed any AV until I started browsing the web with it.

Mal, I will have to post a job list sometime. Long list... Hell right now I am working 3 different jobs... I do like to keep busy and make money.

BTW, In my quick conversation with the Apple guy, he stated that the OSX86 project is NOT approved by Apple and he would only go on record stating that they do not condone the illegal reverse engineering of Apple specific software. That really only applies to the code that is _on top of_ the base kernel and other "open source" libraries. He did state that there were licensing agreements in place that prevents Apple from releasing certain portions of the code and even from releasing the OS to work on non-efi systems. My next question was about sgi's efi system, the Altix, running Itanium's with SUSE or RHEL. Would it then be OK to port the OS to the Altix? He said there were no "official" plans to do that. Man I love legalese... I talked with him longer but promised not to post our whole conversation. If this was a MACaficianado site I would just do an "Official" interview with him as he has some good stories. Like the time he met with Bill Gates... ...and turned down his job offer...

[Zephik]

No one needs virus protection if your smart.

Windows is easy, you're just being a girl about it.

I can't even remember the last time I've gotten a virus and I don't even have protection of any kind aside from Windows Firewall. and FireFox.

Firstly, know what your doing when using the Internet. For example, if you need to download something legal like an Ubuntu update or something like that, don't use Limewire. Either go to the source or use something thats well known and trusted. Secondly, DVD's man! DVD's! Virus Free AND better quality. :D

[NightrainSrt4]

I can't even remember the last time I've gotten a virus and I don't even have protection of any kind aside from Windows Firewall. and FireFox.


If you don't have any type of protection or anything, how do you know you don't have any viruses or spyware.

I guess you could do the online scans, but I don't really trust those, but honesly I never looked into it much.

I haven't had a virus in forever on my windows machines. Last time I had an issue even worth paying attention to was like 5 years ago, looking for a no-dvd patch for a game because I didn't have a dvd-rom drive, so I had to use an external drive, which I couldn't use all the time because it wasn't mine. I learned my lesson quick lol.

[NightrainSrt4]

How the heck it double posted 17min later I have no clue. Good thing I checked back on this thread. About to check out the videos you guys posted below me, but I already know what to expect from the posts prior :( lol.

[Drum Thumper]

...he has some good stories. Like the time he met with Bill Gates... ...and turned down his job offer...

I don't know if I speak for our community of geeks, but I'd love to hear this one!

[noopypoop]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CrQjfgvqJQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygG5rWF5z3s&feature=related


Done and done!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=938TNncqmc8

Oh and done again!

[slytherock]

@Noopy, so old and still funny :)

But are we complaining? Mac don't crash...
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[noopypoop]

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[slytherock]

Those are my fav:
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[NightrainSrt4]

I will say that I have seen pretty mac knowledgeable people proclaim that macs don't crash.

I will tell you what they do call it though: kernel panics.

Ex.

"My mac has never crashed, but a couple times this past month it kept having a kernal panic and I had to do a hard reboot. Least its not a crash and I don't have to deal with a blue screen".


So yes, some mac people are retarded. But so are some pc users.

I will say that I will take a a blue screen that actually gives me information on a problem then a kernel panic that just freezes up the whole mac. Then again thats happened a few times on the several pc's ive owned as well, but most of the time I narrowed it down to a hardware issue, like a bad power supply not supplying enough voltage. I like the blue screen though. Not that I like it happening, but I like to have some info on what the issue was.

And yes I know I can look at the log as of 10.2 or 10.3 or whatever it was, but I like it when it happens.

[Luke122]

Hahahahah