3870 X2 It owns!

[Scotty]

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/4537/1210234080120r6803dmarkar3.jpg

Game Tests and 3DMark again (http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/Graphics-cards/ATI-Radeon-HD-3870X2-1-GB/Page-3.html) - Playable CRYSIS @ 1600x1200 High Q = ZOMG!

Congrats ATi/AMD You have produced competition! And some fine ass kicking competition at that.

The main question is will Nvidia bring the 9800GX2 and flatten this beast?

And ATi is IMPROVING the drivers for this card. That means, even better frame rates then seen in the reviews.

[Quakken]

Sweet. Think about CROSSFIRE'D!

[jdbnsn]

Wait a minute, is that 2 ATI cards vs 1 Geforce? I use ATI and like their cards alot, but if I'm reading that right, that's not much in the way of bragging rights.

EDIT: Nah, I looked at the article and I guess X2 is just part of the name, is that correct?

[Spawn-Inc]

Wait a minute, is that 2 ATI cards vs 1 Geforce? I use ATI and like their cards alot, but if I'm reading that right, that's not much in the way of bragging rights.

EDIT: Nah, I looked at the article and I guess X2 is just part of the name, is that correct?

yes its physically 1 card but it's got 2 gpu's. its a big ol' piece of ****. i do hope it does better and it i can see it being the price of 1 8800 ultra which should help bring down prices on nvidia's next high high end card.

here is a picture
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8342/r68001so5.jpg

here (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=543640) is a thread purposing how to cool such a card.


i do like that its so massive though, so big you might even need extra supports :).

nvidia's answer is the 9800GX2

[noopypoop]

I thinks its a bit unfair since its really just 2 mid range gpu's put into one card, but i guess since the 9800 X2 is coming out it will all be fair.

[crenn]

I'm not worried because of the fact that card has onboard crossfire, but still, it looks like AMD finally produced something worthy of ATi!

And with ATi having a product finally out that beats NVidia.... it means that NVidia will get better!

[Scotty]

It's not that big actually, it's no longer than a 8800GTX/Ultra.

It maybe unfair it's 2 GPUs vs 1, But knowing AMD the price will be less that the current price of the Ultra. Its been hinted at around $500, so $50ish more than a GTX and 100ish less than an Ultra if true. Therefore it has a right to fight against one card.

[Fuganater]

No worries.... NVIDIA will own it with their new card.

[crenn]

Not always the case.

[noopypoop]

Also it seems this card is running with one gb of ram so....

[Ap1thy]

who knows about the 9800gx2.. after all that 7950gx2 wasnt that great of a hit and plagued with problems.

Itd be interesting to see a test with 1 3870X2 and 2 standard 3870's

[rendermandan]

Hmm. I was thinking about taking some of my bonus money and getting a 8800 Ultra, but maybe I'll wait and see how this plays out between the 9800 x2 and this ati card.

[Scotty]

So [H]ard have their review up, something we can trust.

Compared to a 8800GTX in todays games, it's... SLOWER! In some games, others its faster, but not by much :(


Why AMD WHY!! You build a card that barely challenges Nvidias last generation of tech?! WTF do you expect to gain with that. No doubt ATi lovers will grab one, but thats bad...

Temp wise, its roughly the same with the stock cooler. Apparently its quiet, then again the GTX isnt loud. It uses more power, just, but it is 2 GPUs though.

[Spawn-Inc]

HAHA oh man, not good for amd...

did it say anything about the second gpu core temp over the first? i was told/thinking since there in series the heat from the first will mess with the second.

[crenn]

For those wanting a link: http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQ1NCwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

[NightrainSrt4]

Here is another review. Although I always worry about posting links to here as it feels like "the competition" lol. But here is another great review nonetheless.

Bit-tech 3870X2 (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/01/29/amd_ati_radeon_hd_3870_x2/1)

The only game that it does better than the 8800Ultra for the most part is... you guessed it... Games with the UT3 engine

Edit: It seems as I didn't look through the whole thing that it does beat out Ultras in some games and then in others it gets owned. Guess I only looked at the ones that concerned me =). Still a nice card, though I am still a little weary about the whole two gpu's on one card thing and hardware/software support. Guess I am a little thrown back from the old 6600duals from xfx that although had two gpu's you couldn't sli another with it. But I guess things change. Ill have to take more time to look into it, just saw the review and posted. ;)
=(

Still a great looking card nonetheless. I'd take one if someone wants to give me one =0

[noopypoop]

Here is another review. Although I always worry about posting links to here as it feels like "the competition" lol. But here is another great review nonetheless.

Bit-tech 3870X2 (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2008/01/29/amd_ati_radeon_hd_3870_x2/1)

The only game that it does better than the 8800Ultra for the most part is... you guessed it... Games with the UT3 engine


=(

Still a great looking card nonetheless. I'd take one if someone wants to give me one =0


Thats wierd, it seems on the other review, it cant keep up with a GTX, but in this one its is beating an ultra :think:

[jdbnsn]

Thats wierd, it seems on the other review, it cant keep up with a GTX, but in this one its is beating an ultra :think:

The control settings on these bench tests can't really be controlled with perfection, so there will always be some variability in results. I have always owned ATI cards for the same reason I have always drank Pepsi, I reached for one and it's worked fine. For me these tech "battles" over who's card gets slightly better speeds has never really meant much to me. I have never owned a system or software that has demanded the industry's ceiling of performance so for me to pay the extra $200 or whatever is pointless. I have noticed that ATI seems to be getting kicked around by NVIDIA for the last few generations but my cards still work good for me. After I go bankrupt and begin either a life of poverty or extravagance from profitable crime, maybe I'll start buying or stealing top shelf but for now it's an absolute waste of money.

[Quakken]

Thank you jdbnsn.

I like Amd and ATi. they're currently getting whooped nvidia, and nvidia is currently raising a new generation of fans (noopy, I'm talkin to ya).

But even though they may be slightly better, is that an applicable reason to not use AtMiD?

I like the way their "spider" platform looks. I like the way their stuff performs and the potential of their company. They'll be playing the catch-up game for a while because the big merger took so much of their time (and I think they got complacent there for a while, on amd's side).

I'm stubborn in AMD and I like it.

If I get some cash somehow, I will be buying Amtdi. I don't think nvidia or intel need my money, and I just have never liked them.

Besides, do i really need to run crysis on ultra-high at 1280x1024? Am I willing to switch over to intel and nvidia for that?

No. I'm happy with Ati and amd. The margin for error is so close in these tests that it doesn't matter anyway, and I will be happy with the path that I am choosing.

[crenn]

I'm happy with what works well. To me, I consider both NVidia and ATi (I prefer NVidia though but I haven't had problems with ATi IGP cards for notebooks, I've only owned NVidia graphics cards for my desktop) but normally NVidia has something more for me... when I got my 8600GT, the 2600XTs didn't perform as well as the 8600GT. I'm a gamer, a small amount of FPS can mean being killed or not being killed.

[Quakken]

Or you could take the graphics down one notch and not be killed at all.

But It usually doesn't come down to an FPS for being killed or not, and if you are expecting to be playing competitively online you are probably going to take the graphics down a few notches anyway because you can't be hindered by the possibility that your system will hang for that .003 of a second.

[J-Roc]

I'd like to see benchmarks of the best case scenario, crossfirex and sli of two 3870x2's and a pair of ultras.

[crenn]

Actually the game runs fine when there is only a few people on the screen (this is on medium, and I won't take it to low because that affects the gameplay) but when there is a massive gunfight with around 7-12 people, grenades going off and bullets flying everywhere... there is a small slow down sometimes.