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Chewy_Solo
01-31-2008, 07:38 PM
i mean this stubborn!! cmon, i provided so much evidence!!!

Chewy_Solo entered chat room 'Chewy_Solo': Thu, Jan 31 16:53:30 2008
[16:53] Crytek117: Nvidia just changed the release date of the GX2 to late March 2008
[16:53] Chewy_Solo: link
[16:53] Crytek117: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_9_Series
[16:54] Chewy_Solo: excepteced
[16:54] Chewy_Solo: if Nvidia had released or changed the release date it would be on more than just Wiki
[16:54] Crytek117: oh and the worst one is 30% faster, the $900 one is 50%
[16:55] Chewy_Solo: ha ha
[16:55] Chewy_Solo: where did you get that?
[16:55] Chewy_Solo: info?
[16:55] Crytek117: dude, did you even read the wiki article??
[16:55] Chewy_Solo: wiki is most of the time bull ****
[16:56] Chewy_Solo: theres no prives even
[16:56] Crytek117: ok, then your calling nvidia bs because all the wikipedia info is written by the nvidia wiki group
[16:56] Chewy_Solo: lol
[16:56] Chewy_Solo: you know this how?
[16:56] Crytek117: go to nvidia fourms
[16:57] Crytek117: theres a group of nvidia co-workers there
[16:57] Chewy_Solo: and there is no prices on this wiki page
[16:57] Chewy_Solo: there is no confirmed release date
[16:57] Chewy_Solo: there is no release dates fo the other Gpus either
[16:57] Chewy_Solo: like the 9600
[16:57] Chewy_Solo: which have been confirmed
[16:57] Chewy_Solo: to be released in febuary
[16:57] Crytek117: i know, the reason its not an even release date is because they are still trying to fix the opengl bug
[16:57] Chewy_Solo: so obviously this is not a reliable source
[16:58] Chewy_Solo: and note that it supports QUAD SLI
[16:58] Chewy_Solo: not octo SLI
[16:58] Chewy_Solo: or sexto SLI or w e
[16:58] Crytek117: u still dont get it
[16:58] Crytek117: the card itself is a card itself
[16:59] Chewy_Solo: the card is 2 g92 gpus slapped together
[16:59] Chewy_Solo: thus having one 9800 GX2 in your system is in affect SLI
[16:59] Crytek117: its able to support 4 way sli, well yeah if your PC has 500 watts then itll burn your computer, thats why their making the new nvidia motherboard
[16:59] Crytek117: nope
[16:59] Crytek117: listen
[17:00] Crytek117: the card has the power of sli, there isnt just 2 cards jammed in there. If there were then itll be a hell of a big GPU but nvidia and IBM worked on making the microprocessor which Sony also had been working on making it a realiable size
[17:01] Crytek117: specified for crysis
[17:01] Chewy_Solo: omg
[17:01] Chewy_Solo: you are so retarded
[17:01] Chewy_Solo: let me show you the 7950 GX2
[17:01] Crytek117: not even 3 way sli and crysis would have 100 fps
[17:02] Chewy_Solo: http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/06/05/geforce_7950_gx2/
[17:02] Crytek117: you can put as many cards as you want, its all about the memory
[17:02] Chewy_Solo: the 9800 GX2 is just like that
[17:02] Chewy_Solo: 2 G92 GPUs on one PCI bus
[17:02] Crytek117: a 7900GX2 is equal to the power of an 8800, actually less since technoligy doesnt slow down
[17:02] Chewy_Solo: thus SLI with only one "card"
[17:02] Crytek117: omg!
[17:02] Chewy_Solo: im not talking about the performance
[17:02] Crytek117: its not 2 cards
[17:02] Crytek117: its one card
[17:03] Crytek117: for ONE PCI
[17:03] Crytek117: slot
[17:03] Chewy_Solo: i know
[17:03] Chewy_Solo: but
[17:03] Chewy_Solo: omg
[17:03] Chewy_Solo: so stupid
[17:03] Crytek117: you keep thinking of the 7900
[17:03] Chewy_Solo: ok lets say im nvidia
[17:03] Chewy_Solo: because its the saem concept
[17:03] Chewy_Solo: thats what "GX2" MEANS
[17:03] Chewy_Solo: anyway
[17:03] Chewy_Solo: im nvidia
[17:03] Crytek117: yeah, but its new
[17:03] Chewy_Solo: SHUTUO
[17:03] Chewy_Solo: UP
[17:03] Chewy_Solo: let me talk
[17:03] Crytek117: GX2 means 2 cards in one
[17:03] Chewy_Solo: anyway
[17:04] Chewy_Solo: THATS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING ALL THIS TIME
[17:04] Chewy_Solo: but BOTH those cards are in SLI
[17:04] Chewy_Solo: with eachother
[17:04] Crytek117: ok, listen
[17:04] Crytek117: it dont matter how much power it has, as long as its in one PCI slot its not considered SLI
[17:05] Crytek117: if you hook up another one then itll technically be called 4 way sli but really 2 way sli
[17:05] Chewy_Solo: ha ha
[17:05] Chewy_Solo: mhmm
[17:05] Chewy_Solo: thus the card only supports
[17:05] Chewy_Solo: 2 9800 GX2 cards
[17:05] Chewy_Solo: in SLI
[17:05] Chewy_Solo: not 3
[17:05] Chewy_Solo: not 4
[17:05] Chewy_Solo: just 2
[17:05] Crytek117: 4 would be 8 way technically
[17:05] Crytek117: i know
[17:05] Crytek117: but
[17:05] Crytek117: im saying
[17:06] Chewy_Solo: ive been saying this all along
[17:06] Crytek117: if you put 4 way sli in your mobo it would have the power of twice the 8800
[17:06] Chewy_Solo: not neccesarily
[17:06] Crytek117: 8 would be the power
[17:06] Chewy_Solo: OMG
[17:06] Crytek117: ok ok
[17:07] Chewy_Solo: no you can only have 2 9800 GX@ cards in the system
[17:07] Chewy_Solo: not 3
[17:07] Chewy_Solo: not 4
[17:07] Crytek117: if you put 3 way sli in an 8800 mobo it still wouldnt match up to 3 way sli for the GX2 because it would be 6
[17:07] Crytek117: no
[17:07] Crytek117: so far
[17:07] Crytek117: but
[17:08] Crytek117: their making an nvidia 9800 mobo thus having 4 way sli
[17:08] Crytek117: at maximum
[17:08] Chewy_Solo: OMG
[17:08] Chewy_Solo: you cannot have mroe than 2 9800 GX2 cards in SLI
[17:08] Chewy_Solo: no mroe
[17:08] Chewy_Solo: because
[17:08] Crytek117: its one card, one product
[17:08] Chewy_Solo: having one card
[17:08] Chewy_Solo: is like having SLI
[17:08] Crytek117: but
[17:09] Crytek117: thats where the microchip gets involved
[17:09] Crytek117: saving space so sli isnt necessary
[17:09] Crytek117: if you read the nvidia blog theill say that their challange is crysis
[17:10] Crytek117: they need to reach maximum settings with the maximum card
[17:10] Crytek117: because 1 card just isnt enough
[17:10] Crytek117: 4, obove the limit
[17:10] Chewy_Solo: ok lets put it this way
[17:10] Chewy_Solo: im nvidia
[17:10] Chewy_Solo: hey look
[17:10] Crytek117: with an fps average of 130fps for crysis
[17:10] Chewy_Solo: i have a nice 8800 GTS 512 MB g92
[17:10] Chewy_Solo: what if
[17:10] Chewy_Solo: we slap two of them together and make a new nvidia GPU series ZOMG
[17:11] Chewy_Solo: well name it the 9800 GX2
[17:11] Crytek117: no no no
[17:11] Crytek117: if thats the case we could have done that ages ago
[17:11] Crytek117: but its not
[17:11] Chewy_Solo: they did
[17:11] Chewy_Solo: that is the case
[17:11] Crytek117: we instead have altered the settings
[17:11] Crytek117: 600 mhz moved to 900 mhz
[17:11] Crytek117: not the same
[17:12] Chewy_Solo: you have no idea what your talking about
[17:12] Crytek117: 12000 shader to a 1625 shader
[17:12] Crytek117: not the same
[17:12] Crytek117: this card is different
[17:12] Chewy_Solo: hold on
[17:12] Crytek117: even with half the power it still overruns the 8800 ultra 700mb GDDR3
[17:13] Crytek117: 9800 has GDDR4 technoligy
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[17:13] Crytek117: read this
[17:13] Chewy_Solo: mkay
[17:13] Crytek117: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Nvidia-to-Delay-the-9800-X2-Video-Card-Until-March-77456.shtml
[17:13] Namakan: Who is this
[17:13] Chewy_Solo: its
[17:13] Chewy_Solo: master2142
[17:13] Chewy_Solo: and
[17:13] Chewy_Solo: thats the evidence i was asking for earlier
[17:13] Chewy_Solo: idiot
[17:13] Chewy_Solo: not a wiki page that has bunch of rumors
[17:15] Chewy_Solo: anyway
[17:15] Namakan: K
[17:15] Namakan: why am i here
[17:15] Crytek117: lol XD
[17:15] Chewy_Solo: so crytek tell him what you were saying about the 9800 and SLI
[17:15] Crytek117: the 9800 isnt sli
[17:15] Crytek117: its one card, one product
[17:15] * Namakan facepalms
[17:15] Crytek117: facepalms?
[17:16] Namakan: your joking right
[17:16] Namakan: http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/dd67/Namakan5157/Stuff%20From%20the%20Internet/picard-headesk.jpg
[17:16] Crytek117: thats an early model
[17:16] Namakan: ./...
[17:16] Crytek117: if it is a model
[17:16] Namakan: I just lost brain cells
[17:16] Chewy_Solo: http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTE0OTk3OTI3OWVFbWFqbnVHSUpfMl80X 2wuZ2lm
[17:16] Chewy_Solo: that is the idea
[17:16] Chewy_Solo: of quad sli
[17:16] Namakan: yes
[17:16] Chewy_Solo: with the 7950 GX2
[17:17] Chewy_Solo: which is the same idea in the 9800
[17:17] Namakan: mhm
[17:17] Crytek117: no
[17:17] Chewy_Solo: how can you deny that?
[17:17] Chewy_Solo: look
[17:17] Crytek117: whats up with you and the 7 series?
[17:17] Namakan: My god
[17:17] Chewy_Solo: its 2 GPUs on one card
[17:17] Namakan: Dude
[17:17] Chewy_Solo: becasue its the same ****ing idea!

Chewy_Solo
01-31-2008, 07:38 PM
[17:17] Crytek117: its just a card with the power of 2 GPUS
[17:17] Crytek117: but
[17:17] Crytek117: its a whole lot big
[17:17] Namakan: can i go before i lose any more brain cells from this guy
[17:17] Chewy_Solo: no
[17:17] Crytek117: the 9800 has a micro processer making it more reliable
[17:17] Chewy_Solo: i need help arguing
[17:18] Namakan: K
[17:18] Namakan: lets do thsi the right way
[17:18] Crytek117: r u guys serious
[17:18] Chewy_Solo: http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTE0OTk3OTI3OWVFbWFqbnVHSUpfM18xM F9sLmpwZw==
[17:18] Namakan: I am the smartest. Chewy is Right. Crytek is WRONG
[17:18] Namakan: Bai
[17:18] Crytek117: your wrong as f***
[17:18] Namakan: End
[17:18] Chewy_Solo: is this not 2 7950s slapped together
[17:18] Chewy_Solo: seriously
[17:18] Namakan: chewy
[17:18] Chewy_Solo: if you think that is one card
[17:18] Chewy_Solo: your an idiot
[17:18] Crytek117: i didnt say that
[17:18] Chewy_Solo: dont go :(
[17:18] Namakan: dont argue with an idiot
[17:18] Chewy_Solo: you claimed it was one card!
[17:18] Namakan: hes darging you down to his level
[17:18] Chewy_Solo: its not
[17:18] Chewy_Solo: its 2 physical cards
[17:18] Namakan: and winning by exp
[17:18] Chewy_Solo: slapped together to make one
[17:18] Crytek117: the 9800 GX2 isnt 2 8800's thats all i can say...
[17:18] Chewy_Solo: thus SLI
[17:19] Crytek117: NO!
[17:19] Namakan: [17:18] Chewy_Solo: its 2 physical cards
[17:19] Namakan: Correct
[17:19] Namakan: By
[17:19] Namakan: Crytek
[17:19] Crytek117: SLi is a GPU using 2 PCI slots
[17:19] Namakan: read up
[17:19] Chewy_Solo: dont go
[17:19] Namakan: on stuff
[17:19] Chewy_Solo: not always
[17:19] Crytek117: read nvidias sli info!
[17:19] Namakan: dont be a moron
[17:19] Namakan: FAIL
[17:19] Crytek117: your a moron Namak
[17:19] Crytek117: what a noob
[17:19] Chewy_Solo: namakan is awesome
[17:19] Namakan: psh
[17:19] Chewy_Solo: ok
[17:19] Namakan: Love you too hun
[17:19] Chewy_Solo: find me your source
[17:19] Crytek117: guys need to read what SLI is
[17:19] Chewy_Solo: that claims its one GPU
[17:19] Chewy_Solo: find it
[17:20] Namakan: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
[17:20] Chewy_Solo: and link m
[17:20] Crytek117: heres the link...
[17:20] Chewy_Solo: ive given you plenty of evidence
[17:20] Namakan: SLI has nothing to do with
[17:20] Namakan: the 9800GX2
[17:20] Namakan: SLI is when you connect
[17:20] Crytek117: I DIDNT SAY IT DID!
[17:20] Namakan: 2 seperate cards
[17:20] Namakan: 9800GX2 is 2 cards
[17:20] Chewy_Solo: not in the 9800 GX23
[17:20] Chewy_Solo: yes
[17:20] Namakan: already connected
[17:20] Chewy_Solo: in SLI
[17:20] Namakan: to make 1
[17:20] Crytek117: DUDE? I DID NOT CLAIM THAT
[17:20] Chewy_Solo: but they are in SLI
[17:20] Chewy_Solo: so quad slie
[17:20] Chewy_Solo: SLI
[17:20] Chewy_Solo: is having 2 9800 GX2s
[17:20] Crytek117: I SAID SLI IS 2 CARDS HOOKED UP TO A PCI SLOT
[17:20] Crytek117: 9800 IS ONE CARD!!!!!!!!!!!
[17:21] Crytek117: NOT 2
[17:21] Namakan: fail
[17:21] Chewy_Solo: find me your info?
[17:21] Namakan: I cant listen to these lies
[17:21] Crytek117: fail what?
[17:21] Crytek117: u fail
[17:21] Namakan: your info
[17:21] Namakan: k
[17:21] Namakan: dude are you 12
[17:21] Crytek117: no man
[17:21] Namakan: get a girlfriend
[17:21] Crytek117: im 15
[17:21] Namakan: and act like 15
[17:21] Namakan: not 11 or 12
[17:21] Crytek117: you need a life
[17:21] Chewy_Solo: http://www.rage3d.com/reviews/video/nvidia7950gx2/index.php?p=3
[17:21] Namakan: I have a life
[17:21] Chewy_Solo: HA HA
[17:21] Chewy_Solo: 15 my ass
[17:21] Namakan: ya
[17:21] Chewy_Solo: i remember a year ago
[17:21] Crytek117: WORDS ARE CHEAP
[17:22] Chewy_Solo: you were 12
[17:22] Chewy_Solo: so unless
[17:22] Chewy_Solo: you hack life you lie
[17:22] Namakan: He lies
[17:22] Namakan: lets just leave him
[17:22] Chewy_Solo: http://www.rage3d.com/image.php?pic=/reviews/video/nvidia7950gx2/pics/slilink2.jpg&comment=
[17:22] Crytek117: Words are cheap, get it through your thick heads
[17:22] Chewy_Solo: this is the connection between the two ards
[17:22] Chewy_Solo: cards
[17:22] Chewy_Solo: its like SLI
[17:22] Namakan: [17:22] Crytek117: Words are cheap,
[17:22] Namakan: Exactly
[17:22] Chewy_Solo: they are free actually
[17:22] Namakan: your words are meaningless
[17:22] Namakan: crytek
[17:22] Crytek117: theres no physical difference
[17:22] Namakan: pfft
[17:22] Namakan: get an orignal name
[17:23] Crytek117: my name is original
[17:23] Namakan: not some company
[17:23] Namakan: ROFL
[17:23] Chewy_Solo: lol
[17:23] Namakan: LMAO
[17:23] Chewy_Solo: exactly
[17:23] Crytek117: no one has it, thus making it originak
[17:23] Namakan: LMAO
[17:23] Namakan: ROFL
[17:23] Crytek117: learn your grammer
[17:23] Namakan: LMFAO
[17:23] Namakan: om this is classic
[17:23] Chewy_Solo: http://www.rage3d.com/image.php?pic=/reviews/video/nvidia7950gx2/pics/assembly1.jpg&comment=
[17:23] Namakan: HAHAHAHAHAHAHa
[17:23] Namakan: [17:23] Crytek117: no one has it, thus making it originak
[17:23] Namakan: lololol
[17:23] Chewy_Solo: anyway
[17:23] Namakan: you are such a liar
[17:23] Crytek117: thats true
[17:23] Chewy_Solo: look at that screenshot
[17:23] Crytek117: is it not?
[17:23] Namakan: I dont belive him
[17:24] Chewy_Solo: it clearly ilustrates my point
[17:24] Namakan: crytek is a liar
[17:24] Crytek117: ok mate, if something is yours that you created and no one else has its original is it not?
[17:24] Namakan: [17:23] Namakan: you are such a liar
[17:23] Crytek117: thats true
[17:24] Namakan: thats all i need
[17:24] Namakan: Therfore
[17:24] Namakan: your info is wrong
[17:24] Namakan: because you lie
[17:24] Namakan: Case ended
[17:24] Crytek117: i beg a differ that is indeed true
[17:24] Chewy_Solo: anyname with numbers after it just because the other names were taken is epic fail
[17:24] Crytek117: no
[17:24] Chewy_Solo: my name is the most original ever
[17:25] Namakan: lol dude
[17:25] Namakan: www.crytek.com
[17:25] Namakan: owned
[17:25] Namakan: they had it first
[17:25] Crytek117: im not going to have a bloody argument with a bunch of morons, crytek out...
[17:25] Namakan: idoit
[17:25] <Crytek117 (crytek117) has left the room>
[17:25] Namakan: ROFL
[17:25] Namakan: We are idoits
[17:25] Chewy_Solo: HA HAHA
[17:25] Namakan: AHAHAHAHAHA
[17:25] Namakan: This is classic
[17:25] Namakan: it almost
[17:25] Chewy_Solo: he is such an idiot
[17:25] Namakan: makes my day
[17:25] Namakan: dude
[17:25] Namakan: just accept it your wrong
[17:25] Namakan: learn and move on
[17:25] Namakan: ok?
[17:25] Namakan: Thats it
[17:25] Namakan: dont cause stupid arguments
[17:26] Chewy_Solo: exactly
[17:26] Namakan: Thats all i have to say
[17:26] Namakan: See ya
[17:26] Chewy_Solo: wait
[17:26] Namakan: hes gone
[17:26] Chewy_Solo: are you saying i was wrong
[17:26] Namakan: no
[17:26] Namakan: he is
[17:26] Chewy_Solo: gewd
[17:26] Chewy_Solo: saving this
[17:26] Namakan: same

Quakken
01-31-2008, 07:53 PM
IS the 9800gx2 ONE or TWO physical cards?

Is it ONE CARD with 2 GPU's on it, or is it 2 PHYSICAL CARDS with a connector going through a single pci express slot?

I need to know, And I am so confused.

Airbozo
01-31-2008, 08:05 PM
Not reading all that drivel...

Good luck...

lol

Chewy_Solo
01-31-2008, 08:10 PM
IS the 9800gx2 ONE or TWO physical cards?

Is it ONE CARD with 2 GPU's on it, or is it 2 PHYSICAL CARDS with a connector going through a single pci express slot?

I need to know, And I am so confused.

its like slapping two g92 GPUs together with some "SLI" connections (not actual SLI connections, its built it more so) and then running them through one PCI 2.0 slot or PCI- e

noopypoop
01-31-2008, 08:19 PM
DUDE that was the funnieast 2 pages of commentary ive ever seen + rep for the patience

crenn
01-31-2008, 08:48 PM
It's sold a single UNIT. It's 2 cards, a master and a slave. There is interlinking SLI bridges between these 2 cards, so there is 'internal SLI' on the cards. So those 2 cards are in SLI however it's still a single UNIT and the master card still uses 1 PCI-E 16x slot however it uses 2 back slots because of the cooler and the slave card.

.Maleficus.
01-31-2008, 09:07 PM
OMFG my brain hurts!

I'm sorry, but that Crytek kid just failed at life.


And thanks a lot Chewy, I just read your hilarious argument, and that's 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back because some kid treats Wikipedia as God :D.

Greco101
01-31-2008, 09:42 PM
For the lazy (http://www.download.com/Advanced-Text-to-Speech/3000-7239_4-10071184.html?tag=lst-1)

haha

Chewy_Solo
01-31-2008, 11:59 PM
It's sold a single UNIT. It's 2 cards, a master and a slave. There is interlinking SLI bridges between these 2 cards, so there is 'internal SLI' on the cards. So those 2 cards are in SLI however it's still a single UNIT and the master card still uses 1 PCI-E 16x slot however it uses 2 back slots because of the cooler and the slave card.

did i not make that somewhat clear :P

and thanks guys :D

Quakken
02-01-2008, 12:30 AM
Okay, thanks for clearing that up for meh.

armadilloben
02-01-2008, 01:30 AM
hey chewy i never got to look at the leak photos of the pcb for the 9800gx2 so idk but is the this one like the 7950gx2 which had the actual propreiatary bridge connecting the to cards or is it something else


i liked the part he through in about the cell processor tho which nvidia was never involved in the devolopment of :rolleyes:

Chewy_Solo
02-01-2008, 07:44 PM
hey chewy i never got to look at the leak photos of the pcb for the 9800gx2 so idk but is the this one like the 7950gx2 which had the actual propreiatary bridge connecting the to cards or is it something else


i liked the part he through in about the cell processor tho which nvidia was never involved in the devolopment of :rolleyes:

Well there isnt any pictures of it, but as of now i think its probably same type of connectors... but i dont know, i know it is "SLI" tho

armadilloben
02-01-2008, 08:56 PM
check out the bottom of the news section on xtremesystems (hey john am i allowed to link to xs???) they have a thread called like 9800gx2 pictures or sumtin i rember jus never looked

Chewy_Solo
02-01-2008, 09:39 PM
here is the orignal source http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQzOSwxLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA== you cant tell the connection type seeing as theres no side shots