Project: Chev 780gts

[aphexcloud]

i have been interested in case moding for a while and i have decided to start my own mod after seeing the BossFX-57 by Tech-Daddy i am moding my case in tribute to chev instead of ford.

i have tryed to think of a different way to do the scoop on the top of the case but they all seem to look alot like the 1 Tech-Daddy has done and seeing that i will be posting my work logs on this forum i don't want to look a copy cat and if i do end up making a scoop that looks alot like Tech-Daddy's 1 i at least want his
tick of approval before posting work logs so if u have any ideas on it could look like please show me or explain

thanks in advance

[DonT-FeaR]

if you dont want a huge one could you use a 2litre bottle? idk can you please link to that mod ill check it out and tell ya what i think you should do


EDIT: welcome to tbcs btw

[Eclecticos]

Make a custom one out of poly-foam, and fiberglass it.

I would recommend USComposites (http://www.uscomposites.com/polyesters.html) Polyester Resins, and Hardener.

After you have the shape cut out. .
You paint epoxy on on the foam and lay out the fiberglass cloth and soak it with epoxy until its clear.
Repeat the process with finer fiberglass cloth until the desired thickness is achieved.

Let it harden for 48 Hours and trim it up with the dremel cutoff wheel.

[SgtM]

Make a custom one out of poly-foam, and fiberglass it.

I would recommend USComposites (http://www.uscomposites.com/polyesters.html) Polyester Resins, and Hardener.

After you have the shape cut out. .
You paint epoxy on on the foam and lay out the fiberglass cloth and soak it with epoxy until its clear.
Repeat the process with finer fiberglass cloth until the desired thickness is achieved.

Let it harden for 48 Hours and trim it up with the dremel cutoff wheel.
+rep
x2. Only 1 step left out.. make sure you use a release agent to get the fiberglass off of the foam mold. Otherwise the foam will break up, and it'll be a bitch to get it all sanded smooth.

[DonT-FeaR]

you can also use cling wrap (that clear plastic stuff you use to wrap food in)

this is cheaper and easier

[aphexcloud]

i have cut a window and done a practice scoop on an old case i used cardboard and polyfiller lol. I have a photobucket link of the side and the cardboard frae i am probly going to use cardboard to make the frame and then use foaming glue bog and fiberglass on the the proper thing

ps: all the photos are done on a practice case so i can get some skill using a dremel and pollyfiller the real thing will be loged in the work logs part of the forums

photobucket link: http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/pc%20mods/

[Vexxx_2007]

Welcome to TBCS :) It sounds like a great idea, but i have no idea about the mod you're talking about... Can you hook us up with a linky please?

Have fun with the modding!!!

Any questions, just ask anyone here...
Everybody is really helpful and friendly :banana:

[aphexcloud]

the link to the case that gave me the idea to mod a case: http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/jdbnsn/HOF%20pics/bossshow/

i am caped atm so doing anything is hell takes 5-10mins to load any page except google :(

ps: thanks to every 1 who welcomed me to the forums

[Eclecticos]

Only 1 step left out.. make sure you use a release agent to get the fiberglass off of the foam mold. Otherwise the foam will break up, and it'll be a bitch to get it all sanded smooth.

Really depends on how you build it up, and how thick the foam is. You could always make a frame and go over top of it with 1/2" foam. If your making a mold and extracting a piece you will need Wax and PVA release agents.

I made some sub kick panels for my old car out of MDF and covered it in plexiglass, I suppose I could have used carbon cloth, turned out preddy nice and sturdy none the less.

The cool thing about the foam is you can recess areas and get your cloth down in there.
I've been watching training videos. 8)

In the video they were masking it off with newspaper and filling cells with expanding foam.
May have to watch it agian. Attention span is really bad. :D

@aphexcloud: Looks like a good design for the top of the case.

If your interested in watching the video: The Complete Fiberglass and Composite Library.
You can rent it.
Here (https://smartflix.com/?ct=af231738) <=-

[Eclecticos]

There is a Fiberglass Tutorial in the Tips, and Tricks Section. Here (http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9290) <=-

[aphexcloud]

what is the stuff that is used on top of the cut away foaming glue in this pic is it some sort of resin or is it fibreglass

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/topofcase.jpg

[Eclecticos]

Yup. What we see here is shaped expanding foam.
Covered in fiberglass mat, with applied resin/hardener.

[aphexcloud]

i would have thort the foam would be eaten by the resin from the fibreglass if i decide to try this method will i need a special type of expanding glue

[aphexcloud]

i have had a shot at making my own (jus a practice one) it went will i jus neet to get rid of all my air bubbles before letting it dry.
I used cardboard as the frame i threaded mild steel welding rods through it so it wouldn't sag (like my first attempt) http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/pc%20mods/P7050046fibre1.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/pc%20mods/P7050046fibre.jpg

[Eclecticos]

Hell Yea. Look who's glassing. Looks good to.
Good idea. . reinforcing the frame. :up:

Looks like a work in progress. No longer and Idea.
I am going to go ahead and move you over to that section.

[aphexcloud]

i am still in design/buying stages i am going to get the case, radiator,1/2 inch barbs next week and while dreaming about my new case i came up with a few ideas and thort i might get some experienced moders to shed some light on how i could go about these ideas. My first idea is was to put silver cable sleeving around the water cooling to make it look like its running braided hoses through the case (as real braided hoses are way to expensive for my first mod) my question is 1 does any 1 know anywhere in Australia that sells silver cable sleeving 2 i was going to run the things called coolsleevs also referred to as anti kink sleeving so as not to kink any of the hoses which is a major problem in my case at the moment my Delmar is running a uv reactive blue coils under silver cable sleeving could look very bad if uv cathodes are used agian any ideas or does any 1 know if there other types eg: non reactive and clear.
My final idea was to make a ipod dock in one of the front drive bays using an old ipod cable i have and one of the drive bay covers any ideas what so ever on this one would be great

thanks in advance

ps: sorry for my bad spelling i am dyslexic and spell check is well just as bad as i am sometimes

[Snowman]

Don't apologize man looks like your off to a great start and have got some really good ideas. I know you might have heard this before but some of our greatest minds have had dyslexia or some other type of stumbling block to overcome in there life. Edison, Curie, da Vinci, Picasso, George Patton, Stonewall Jackson, Robin Williams, Kiera Knightley, and my personal favorite John Fitzgerald Kennedy, the list goes on and on. So keep up the good work. I personally liked the sleeving I saw in one of the Plexiglas cases on here. They used what looked like aluminum flex pipe for sleeving.

[aphexcloud]

i decided to practice hacking into an old case i have ling around and messing around with window styles and have decided on a chevy symbol on a 45degree andle on the side of the case for my window and maybe even etch the name of the mod into the window here are some pics of how it is going to look

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/pc%20mods/Picture001.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/pc%20mods/Picture002.jpg

as u can see i spilt some fibreglass glue on the panels lucky this is only my practice case :P

[Tech-Daddy]

what is the stuff that is used on top of the cut away foaming glue in this pic is it some sort of resin or is it fibreglass

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/topofcase.jpg

Heheheh.... what you are looking at there is actually a HUGE frikken mistake I made!

Here is a glimpse into my world. I had *never* worked with fiberglass... ever. And, being under a tight timeline I *thought* I knew what I was doing (mistake number one), so I started working on my one (and only) scoop (mistake number two).

The application method that I used to build the scoop was so flawed, that I seriously think that thing could take a bullet shot... it has that much resin!

Instead of painting the resin on to the fiberglass material, *snicker* I was soaking it in the resin mixture in a seperate container, then laying it on to the pre-shaped foam and trying to get it to lay flat. Then putting another piece... etc, etc, etc...

needless to say.... THAT AINT RIGHT! ;) :down:

The results that you so painfully drug up and posted (kidding with you) bear witness to the witless application method that I employed! The foam was shaped, and the fiberglass (*dripping* with resin) was spread out all over this beast. It was horrific!

However, I managed to save it by nearly burning out the motor in my electrical sander using 80 grit sandpaper! Then after exhausting all that, I moved to 120, then bondo over that and sanding, then more bondo and sanding, then glazing putty and sanding.... so much work for a half assed application.

And, tbh, if you were to look at the scoop up close, you would find a ton of flaws. Your prototyping of a scoop is something that I wish I had done... would have made the application and build *much* cleaner, and more professional.

I've been head down and working on my mod and starting a new job for the last few months, so my apologies for not catching this sooner, as well as your public proclamation on the desire to do your build.

The fact that BOSS inspired you to get into modding is the sincerest compliment that I can be paid. Honestly... and if you saw something that you liked, and want to build it up in your own flavor, by all means... do it!

What you are doing on the scoop is a prime example. If you have any questions and wish to learn from my mistakes, feel free to PM me. I'll tell you what I learned in the hopes that you dont make the same mistakes that I did!

As I just stated in another thread. Scoops are scoops... build them. Make them into what you want! I dont hold a patent on them! If you have a bitchen design and it incorporates a scoop of some sort... build the thing!

"Someone else has already built a scoop mod...." So what! You learn through doing and mimicking others. That is what these work logs are for! To inspire and to help others to follow up.

Most every mod I have built has included some little bit of trickery that someone else has used. Something that I read or saw in another log that inspired me to "bend that idea" into something that I am building. I'm inspired by reading other logs, which gives me ideas... which I build, which gives others ideas.

Don't break the chain! Build your mod for you, how you want it! Others will learn from it, and you will have a case that is, hands down, your own custom case that you built your way.... and nobody can take that from you!

:banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:
:up::up::up::up::up::up::up::up:
:D

Oh and HARDCORE tip here.... dont attach your scoop then try to paint it. Especially if you are wanting the inside to match the outside in color. You cannot spray the paint down the inside of the scoop deep enough. If you are going to leave it open (like I did), try to build your scoop to near external completion prior to trying to get it on your case. That way, you can sand and finish the *inside* of the scoop and paint it *prior* to attaching it to the top of your case.

I royally screwed that up when I built mine, and received some correct criticism from those who were able to look at it up close. Hey.... you take risks and build something you have never built before... sometimes you win, sometimes you dont! Just dont make the same mistake I did! Find a way to finish the inside of the scoop, or build some form of screen for the intake if you dont want people seeing into the scoop.

My .02 cents...
-=TD

[aphexcloud]

cheers for the heads up thankfully i have worked with fibreglass before (a while ago now) when u had my boat and needed to fix a hole in it.

My only question is does the fibreglass glue eat away at the foaming glue which was used to get the general look of the scoop before using a hard sealer being the fibreglass or whatever u choose to harden the scoop with because i am using a cardboard so the strength is coming from my fibreglass and wire skeleton and i was wanting shape and give the scoop some meat by using foaming glue and then inserting wire through the glue and finally fibreglassing it but thort that the glue from the fibreglass would eat at it as it did to the wood glue i used to hold together the first prototype lol (that thing is well cind of flat and misshaped)

ps: loving the duce mod u got going td looks sweet as carnt wait to see whats next

[Tech-Daddy]

It did not eat the spray foam insulation that I used as a base shaper.

I had concerns that it would, but it did not. I used the spray foam insulation, then shaped it, then applied the fiberglass directly over the foam.

I used a product called "Good Stuff", or something like that. Chemical ingredients may differ between manufacturers, but I Would think that this stuff would not change that much! So you should be safe!

Pop out a glob of the foam and then fiberglass it. I really think it will be ok.

[aphexcloud]

well its 3 pages into the thread and u haven't seen any work from me but it finally begins i got my radiator yesterday and also my Reservoir.http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/pc%20mods/DSCF0005.jpg

i got my case today all this came about cause i got my car back from the panel shop so i could go and actually get the stuff i needed.
The case i got is a centurion 590 and i went to pccasegear which was showing stock of course no stock so i went to centrecom and they said we also have stock and it wasn't the 1 without a power supply which i don't need as i am putting my current pc hardware in this mod.

case
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/pc%20mods/DSCF0001.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/pc%20mods/DSCF0002.jpg

powersupply
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/pc%20mods/DSCF0003.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/pc%20mods/DSCF0004.jpg

[aphexcloud]

well the case is now pulled apart and primed ready for paint tomorrow i also started the scoop which i created out of cardboard i put expanding foam on it and i will shape it then fiberglass it.

pic of scoop with uncut expanding foam
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/pc%20mods/DSCF0007.jpg

[DonT-FeaR]

rofl gunna eat brains... thats what it looks like in that picture lol i like this mod a bit

[aphexcloud]

lol i hadn't thort of it like that i thort it looked like a pile of crap paint it brown and leave it under the parents covers hehe :twisted: .

I painted the bezel, drive bays and hdd cage today i also messed around with that expanding foam and it is fine with fiberglass :D yay

drivebay covers & part of front bezel
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/pc%20mods/DSCF0008.jpg

front beizel
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/pc%20mods/DSCF0009.jpg

pci slot covers
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/pc%20mods/DSCF0010.jpg
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/pc%20mods/DSCF0011.jpg

[DonT-FeaR]

lol i hadn't thort of it like that i thort it looked like a pile of crap paint it brown and leave it under the parents covers hehe :twisted: .


rofl how old are you?im 14 so it would be good for some younger modders.... (not a crack at the older guys) lol nice work on the painting

[aphexcloud]

i am 20

[aphexcloud]

i am in need of help i have almost finished painting most of the case and found the that the paint marks easily maybe because it need some time to properly go off but but i was also thinking of giving a clear coat over it all to get the shiny Finnish i am looking for i tryed the stuff from an auto store and found the it discolored the paint and screwed it up, i was wondering if there is any good brands ppl know of or have used it get a good shiny Finnish that will protect my work(i live in Australia so we may not get some of the "us" brands). cheers.

[DonT-FeaR]

woot another aussie!!! um i have cans of paint at dads... thinking....


something knight?

and touch up paint is good

thats just for the normal colour not to sure about clear

[aphexcloud]

well it has been a long time sins i have updated this work log due to work loads and car issues i had to stop the mod but i have now resumed it and well going hard at it i have painted and finnished the front of the case bar a few of the grills which i have to fix up cause they got scratched while it was jus sitting there. i have also done some changes to the origanal idea for the scoop instead of it housing the rad for the water cooling it will now house the dvd drive due to lack of space above the mobo in the case so the scoop has also been changed to suit any way enough typing now for the pics :)

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/DSCF0004.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w70/aphexcloud/DSCF0002.jpg

:( all i have for now i have more pics of the front and what i am doing to the top and inside the case to come they are stuck in my camera at the moment because i carnt find the cable for it :S will up date more pics when i find it

wow i didnt relise they were that out of focus hmm may have to find that cable sooner

[aphexcloud]

another quick post before i go surfing the interwebz and playing cod4 does any 1 know if u can paint water cooling radiators and not affect the heat transfer if so do i need special paint or does it need powder coating or somthing

[DonT-FeaR]

i think it would effect it a little bit but not to much
dont take my word

[Twigsoffury]

another quick post before i go surfing the interwebz and playing cod4 does any 1 know if u can paint water cooling radiators and not affect the heat transfer if so do i need special paint or does it need powder coating or somthing

think it'd have to be anodized and not painted.

anodized is like like a electro static dye.