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Ichbin
07-04-2008, 10:38 PM
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Happy 4th of July!


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Happy 4th of July for all your American folks out there from your friends at TBCS!
Be safe and don't blow up too many fingers and eat so many hotdogs that you'll throw up!

Keep it safe!

nevermind1534
07-05-2008, 01:25 AM
Went up to my grandmother's cottage. There were thousands of dollars spent on fireworks tonight. It was nice, but I'd never buy one of those $1,000 packs.

Quakken
07-05-2008, 03:20 PM
$1000? That's like, a lot.

Weren't there any shows around there, you know, like free ones where they have real fireworks?

But that must have been pretty awesome, lighting fireworks all night long, pretty much.

I went to the local show, to hear the big booms and see the big balls of light thrown into the sky by the city of loveland.

Airbozo
07-05-2008, 05:33 PM
For the first time in my life, I did not fire off anything and was happy that I didn't see/hear any of my neighbors fire off so much as a sparkler.

I enjoyed the fireworks from the top of our local rock perch put on by the cities around us.

Quakken; you mean Loveland, CO? I used to go to the same show years ago...


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Quakken
07-05-2008, 05:49 PM
Yeah, Loveland CO. I'm native.

It was pretty good, I sat on the lawn near my church. Some of the fireworks were smiley faces!

Then I went home and spent 5 hours watching television. Best. Fourth. Ever.

Airbozo
07-05-2008, 06:13 PM
nice!

Born and raised in Lakewood/Golden.

They used to put on a show at Red Rocks but after a fire there they stopped. We used to go up there on the fourth and watch the various shows. That or Lookout mountain. Incredible shows!

jdbnsn
07-05-2008, 06:36 PM
Happy Belated Independence Day!!!

Although July 4th is a date celebrated by Americans commemorating the act of defiance by the British Colonies against their king, the spirit and relevance of liberty and justice is one of grave importance to ALL HUMAN BEINGS!
Let us never forget that the sacrifices made by all of our forefathers are completely squandered on a lineage of complacent, passive individuals whom are content accepting the religious, political, or otherwise persuasive ideological concepts or definitions of morality and reality. We must always remember that even though battles for liberty and independence can be won, lost, or otherwise concluded, the struggle for freedom and human rights is never finished. It is our responsibility as free-thinking men and women to NEVER lay down our arms against the forces of oppression. Let us never surrender our will to the kings, administrations, tyrants, dictators, landlords, priests, generals, slaveholders, corporations, teachers, or any other entity that would have us exchange our freedom to decide with our blind obedience and consent. It has been taught repeatedly by the great minds throughout our history that;

-it is almost always necessary to be willing to die for justice, almost never necessary to be willing to kill

-complacency=surrender=slavery

-in order to be strong enough to demand liberty, you must always be willing to fight for others who lack the strength to fight for themselves

-and lastly, in the end, if you feel that the majority is wrong, and that you are right, you probably are correct.

God Bless!

-Jon

Quakken
07-05-2008, 08:40 PM
Um, okay!

FuzzyPlushroom
07-05-2008, 09:33 PM
My neighbors are friggin' idiots - didn't just fire 'em off last night, but they're still going at it (9:35 PM here). Come on, guys, set 'em all off when you're supposed to...

Went to a town Declaration reading (a few dozen citizens go up and read a paragraph or so apiece) and had a cookout. Everything except the fireworks here.

jdbnsn
07-05-2008, 10:08 PM
Um, okay!

Lol! Sorry for the rant, I've been drinking coffee and reading all day and the grocery list of imminent threats to the America's credibility and possible survival have been scrolling through my mind and pissing me off! Things that I am surprised to find have failed to draw more of a moral outrage than they have...but I think I will refrain from listing them here to avoid stirring up the natives.

nevermind1534
07-06-2008, 03:29 PM
$1000? That's like, a lot.

Weren't there any shows around there, you know, like free ones where they have real fireworks?

But that must have been pretty awesome, lighting fireworks all night long, pretty much.

I went to the local show, to hear the big booms and see the big balls of light thrown into the sky by the city of loveland.

I didn't spend $1,000, but some of the other people nearby spend that, or more. There are lots of real fireworks that shoot up in the air there, though. I only spent maybe around $25 lol.

xRyokenx
07-06-2008, 03:51 PM
I didn't spend anything on fireworks... they're illegal here in NY, possibly because some ass blew his hand off or hurt himself somehow. Stupid is as stupid does, and everyone else pays for it. lol

I love fireworks though, next year maybe. We'll see where I am.

EDIT: And as a response to jd's post... I'm hoping that everyone figures out what's going on and we all straighten this mess of a country out, as I think we're going to need a revolution if stuff gets worse. ...just my views though. This whole mess scares me.

nevermind1534
07-06-2008, 04:05 PM
Bush is really kissing China's ass. It doesn't really look like Obama or McCain would really be much better about it. Obama wants to open up talks with Iran. Yeah, that will really make them feel isolated. Neither one of them wants to do anything about outsourcing. I don't think we need a revolution, but in my opinion, somebody without ties to any parties, or companies would be the best.

Quakken
07-06-2008, 05:27 PM
What can we do? China owns us. It's the bad economics that are the base of it. Sure, we all hate taxes. But the government debt to other countries like china isn't going to go away by itself, and the stupid government will just keep printing money, driving the value lower and lower and lower, while prices continue to rise anyway.


On the revolution note- Never, EVER, let the government take away your guns. ever. They know we can hurt them, and that's the only thing that can keep them in check if it does all go to pot (or someone invades).

jdbnsn
07-06-2008, 08:17 PM
I was referring to more internal issues regarding the lowering of standards of our conduct on the world stage such as...

-the replacement of reason with religious ideology (e.g. many school teachers are outright banned, or are intimidated into avoiding the topic of evolution in the education of our children)

-religious ideology being the foundation of law making decisions (sexual preference denotes your class of citizenship and your rights to legitimize your love of another)

-hurling our standards back about 1000 years by implementing torture into our list of approved methods of investigation (prior to the open legitimacy of water-boarding, Muslim "suspects" were deported to countries who to this day practice barbaric methods of extracting testimonies such as Saudi Arabia, Syria, Egypt, etc...)

-opening of exclusive detention centers which are geographically isolated from our pesky human rights laws, completely devoid of legal representation, communication to the press and religious freedom, and far from prying eyes to conduct so far 7 years of interrogation of suspects many of whom were arrested without probable cause, with absolutely no rights to appeal to outside authority

-the out-sourcing of the more non Geneva-convention approved duties to privatized combat forces to keep our military's hands clean while still having the luxury of operating outside the internationally agreed upon rules of engagement.

-the haste with which we have recently waged war despite glaring lack of evidence to support our charges, and with total lack of regard to the opinion of the United Nations of which we are a member and in theory are supposed to seek their council for a multilateral method of disarming threats to world peace in order to lessen the likelihood that the war will trigger world war III

-add to the mix a president who is a religious zealot who believes he is on a mission from God and...

-well, actually, the list goes on and on, I could type for hours but it just gets me fumed. The simple fact of the matter is these are American problems. As Americans, it is our duty to rise and demand that our leaders conduct our international affairs in a manner that we approve of. That is the theory behind a civilian controlled military where only Congress is supposed to have the right to declare war, not the commander in chief. But when Congress is foolish enough and short sighted enough to hand over it's power in what is described as an "emergency", the commander in chief wields the power of an emperor, nothing less. I know we can do better than this!


Now watch me get banned by the moderators....eek

Quakken
07-06-2008, 09:13 PM
I know that this is quickly eroding into a "things wrong with our country" debate, but hey- I'm all for sharing my opinions.


I'm going to start with your last point- Has congress not seen star wars? Giving any more power to any individual branch than what was originally intended is not a good idea.. This includes letting a president get off with an illegal war (i'm talkin' to you, judicial branch).

I think that religion shouldn't play hardly any role in politics. I'm very religious. I have a strong testimony in my church and I wouldn't revoke my belief in christ if there was a gun to my head (think of the god-points THAT would get you when you reach the proverbial pearly gates). But that's just me. Religious values shouldn't play in how a country makes their laws. Sure, I think that being homosexual is a choice that you consciously make, I don't care if you want to have sex with other men (or women if you are of the finer sex). You should be granted all of the rights of a marriage. I'm taught that I should love all of god's creation, even if I believe they're committing sin.

Torture is torture, and habeas corpus is an inalienable right. The government isn't allowed to put people away indefinitely if they think they're a terrorist. Give them a trial. Stop putting people in A prison off of american soil so you can stop giving them their rights and torture them. You wouldn't let us put our money in an off shore account so we don't have to obey the laws, why should we let you put people in an off shore prison so you don't have to give them a trial? Hypocrites.

We all know the problems the current administration (and beyond) has presented. Maybe now we can finally do something about it?

Too bad the citizens don't actually have any power other than voting for someone who presents them self like they can. A revolution just might happen. Just make sure you keep your guns.

SXRguyinMA
07-07-2008, 10:13 AM
Happy belated 4th to all! I didnt doo to much - drank a lot and had some fun drunken Halo 3 multiplayer lol

Drum Thumper
07-07-2008, 01:18 PM
Happy belated 4th to all! I didnt doo to much - drank a lot and had some fun drunken Halo 3 multiplayer lol

Drinking and virtual driving. Good choice--the only thing you might kill is pixels!

Quakken
07-07-2008, 03:33 PM
Have you ever seen that thing where that guy tested getting drunk in GTA4 and then driving vs getting drunk in real life and driving in GTA4? It's pretty funny, turns out it's harder to get drunk in the game and drive.

SXRguyinMA
07-07-2008, 03:47 PM
Drinking and virtual driving. Good choice--the only thing you might kill is pixels!

lol true. I was pretty good a sniping while trashed though... :?

didnt do much driving though...mostly gatling gun while someone else was driving :D