Project: PrometheusCu

[DonT-FeaR]

:O wow thats awsome...

[markkleb]

Thanks so much man, and right back at you - I'm quite eager to see your results. That one pic showed very promising results.

That was a very early job. I have done many more since then and improved the design quite a bit. I have been working with eliminating most of the wiring and making the whole comp modular (no wiring at all). My latest design was for Nvision (unfortunately I was not able to attend).
I am having problems now deciding on showing it or trying to profit from my new designs.

Its a very hard decision.
(thankfully I can watch your mod and the rest of the EXCELLENT mods at TBCS while I figure what the heck to do)

[DonT-FeaR]

profit for sure...

might not take off cuz the would have to alter the cases alot and it would be a pain to work on..

gl tho :)

[scar~face]

what is holding it off the card?

[Langer]

3M double sided tape, but I also put down some Kapton high-temp take so that the double sided tape wouldn't melt to the card.

I'm going to use screws however - so I can space it out better and also because I want the mirror to tilt slightly forward.

The mirror serves several purposes - it looks cool, it will let you see the engraving on the AC waterblocks, and it prevents those little ram sinks from falling off - the holes are just big enough to let the fins poke though. I just hope it doesn't act like a little oven considering that the mirror has a thin coat of copper film on the bottom.

[Mach]

:eek:The mirror is a massively cool idea. Have you ever seen anyone do this with an entire motherboard? +rep

[Langer]

@Mach - EEL Ambiense did something like that on his 'Lumiere' project over on Bit-Tech - A beautiful case mod. -Link (http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=149766&)-


2of2.
Note that this one was made with a tilt to it to reflect the graphics on the GPU block better.

I've not yet installed it, it's just a friction fit with the ramsinks.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-GPU-stealthing-04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-GPU-stealthing-05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-GPU-stealthing-06.jpg

[jdbnsn]

I just hope it doesn't act like a little oven considering that the mirror has a thin coat of copper film on the bottom.

Well you've watercooled every other damned thing in this build, might as well watercool the mirrors! Lol, joking.

[markkleb]

what about using some 1/4" plastic spacers to keep it off the PCB and allow air to circulate between the PCB and plate.
Maybe a strip along the side (kind of like XFX does to cover the gap)

[Mach]

Thanks for the link. I briefly thought about mirroring the inside of the lid for Cobra-matic but thought it would look to much like a car show display if I did. I may have to rethink that.

Oh yeah since you have a penchant for things made from unobtanium, let me introduce you to Radiant acrylic (http://www.cyro.com/methacrylates/us/products/sheet_products/products/colors/acryliteradiantsheet/). It's reflective, semi transparent, color shifting acrylic. It's pricey, difficult to get, and only available in large quantities. In other words, perfect for PrometheusCu. :)

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_UdQdiSb7gT4/SSxvv9EuEBI/AAAAAAAAC68/hp96m1YdB30/s400/251927-7042-1.jpg

[ShockTheBox]

how are the noise levels with the kama kaze fans.... I was thinking about using a push pull fan set on my rad just for giggles.. so if you have time to make a comment on the fan noise i would love to hear it.... nice work .. +rep

[Langer]

OMG, that radiant acrylic is so cool.... It would be perfect for -yet another- project I have in my mind's eye. Thanks again for planting idea seeds Mach. (lol... Unobtanium... that movie was so bad).

The covers on the GPU blocks will be installed differently when It's all done, with a bit of an edge finish, some spacing and with screws.

Thanks guys.


The Scythe fans are pretty loud on full boar, but that wont be necessary 90% of the time. On 1/2 power they aren't that bad.... but I don't mind the extra dB's

[The boy 4rm oz]

Now that is some cool looking plexi.

[Langer]

Just ordered the 4x 64GB SSD's from NCIX.com

G.SKILL FM-25S2S-64GB 64GB 2.5IN SATA2 SSD

Performance Specifications
Sequential Read Rate 155MB/sec (MAXIMUM 170MB/sec in Vista)
Sequential Write Rate 90MB/sec (MAXIMUM 100MB/sec in Vista)
Access Time >0.2ms

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-SSD-OEM.jpg

[The boy 4rm oz]

Damn, no expense is to much lol.

[DonT-FeaR]

you never stop amazing me... let some one else have a go :)

[mittelmeier]

That looks amazing! +rep

[Langer]

@The boy 4rm oz - it's my own fault - the design didn't leave room for anytihng but SSD's - even the velociraptor is 2mm too tall.

@DonT-FeaR - Yes sir =(. hehe.

@mittelmeier - Thanks man.

[craigbru]

@The boy 4rm oz - it's my own fault - the design didn't leave room for anytihng but SSD's - even the velociraptor is 2mm too tall.


Only 2 mm? Heck, a hammer would fix that for you... :D

[markkleb]

lol, or a hydraulic press. Just stop right before contact of the spinning disk

[Langer]

Hey folks.

I'm searching for a RAID controller.
Here is exactly what I want, in terms of board layout and specs:
Suitable for use with 4x 64GB SSDs
SATA2
Compatibility with Vista Ultimate 64
4x front facing SATA ports
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-RAIDcard-example-02.jpg
*optional, but preferred* 2-4 rear IO eSATA ports
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-RAIDcard-example-01.jpg
The card posted above is the Rosewill RC-218 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816132018) - and although it may seem ideal at first glance it is only a 4-channel card; which means that it can only run 4 of the 6 ports at once (4xinterior & 0xexterior - or - 2x2). Since I'll be using 4x64GB SSDs with the board at all times, that makes the extra eSATA ports entirely useless.

If that's not possible then a 4-channel card with no external IO will do - but it must be 3gb/s, and have front facing ports.

I don't have much experience with RAID controllers, so any advice for things to look for and things to avoid are greatly appreciated.

Thanks a lot in advance!

[DonT-FeaR]

well... good luck.. lol you have lost me...

[The boy 4rm oz]

He wants a 6 channel RAID controller which is black and has the same layout as the above pics. e-SATA is a bonus but not necessary and must be compatible with 64bit Vista and deliver 3gbps speed.

I will see what I can find mate, they will probably be Australian stores but you may be able to look up the model number back home.

[The boy 4rm oz]

I found something that would suit your needs, it does have a green PCB but has a copper heatsink ;). I was thinking you could make a cover for it like your graphics cards.
High Point RocketRAID 2000 Series:
http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA/series_2000.htm

[Langer]

Hazaa! The 2310 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816115027&Tpk=RocketRAID%202310) looks pretty ideal - but I'll need to do some more research on it.

[The boy 4rm oz]

Yeah they look pretty decent, besides the green PCB lol.

[nevermind1534]

I have an older version of that card. I used it until I got a computer new enough to have SATA ports on it. The eSATA ports would be half covered up when the card was installed.

[grevaeg]

This is basically the controller you want, trust me, you do NOT want ur 4 high performance ssd's to be run of a low performance controller without onboard memory and a decent cpu =)

your disk performance will plummit without something around these speccs

copy/paste

3ware 9690SA

Expand your Horizon
AMCC builds on established 3ware SATA RAID leadership to introduce the 3ware 9690SA SAS controller, the new standard in Serial Attached SCSI RAID. As SATA and SAS technologies converge, users look to 3ware SATA for price and performance and to SAS for SAS/SATA connectivity with expansion up to 128 devices. The 3ware 9690SA delivers accelerated SAS performance and the flexibility of internal and external connectivity. Whether customers require SAS, SATA, or SAS/SATA connectivity, 3ware will provide the right tool for the job.

Use the Right Tool
The 3ware 9690SA offers configuration flexibility with three PCI Express low profile controller choices: eight internal ports, eight external ports, and four internal/external ports. AMCC now offers a highly scalable 3ware serial storage product portfolio that includes 2- to 24-ports of SATA connectivity with the 3ware 9650SE and maximized SAS expandability to up to 128 devices per controller with the 3ware 9690SA.Users will also enjoy a unified RAID management interface and software suite which assures a picture perfect configuration experience with every 3ware controller, irrespective of its storage interface.


Data Protection and Performance
Advanced 3ware RAID architecture, SAS and SATA II performance features, including 3Gb/s and NCQ, help rocket the 9690SA to RAID 5 and RAID 6 performance heights. An optional Battery Backup Unit with integrated write journaling and remote battery mounting capability provides added data protection in the event of a power outage. The 3ware 9690SA supports RAID levels 0, 1, 5, 6, 10, 50, and Single Disk.

3ware 9650SE Features

* 8th-generation StorSwitchT non-blocking switched architecture
* On-board I/O RISC processor and RAID offload provides true hardware RAID - SCSI device driver model to take advantage of SAS or inexpensive Serial ATA drives
* Bootable array support for greater fault tolerance of your OS
* Variable stripe size for performance tuning by application
* Support for greater than 2TB volumes
* 512MB DDR2 533 memory with ECC protection
* 128 max disk drives via SAS expanders
* Complete configuration management suite
- 3ware BIOS Manager (3BM) - easy to use BIOS configuration tool
- 3ware Disk Manager 2 - browser-based management tool
- Command Line Interface (CLI) - scriptable configuration tool
* SNMP support
* SMTP support for email/pager notification
* Staggered drive spin-up support
* Auto carving allows LUNs > 2TB to be divided into multiple units for legacy operating systems limited to 2TB max. per LUN
* Battery Backup Unit (BBU) with remote battery support
* Write journaling for improved performance and data protection against accidental drive removal
* Multiple SAS/SATA RAID sets
* Multiple logical unit sizes and RAID levels on one card
* Hot-swap and hot-spare support for data availability
* Dynamic sector repair for robust data protection
* S.M.A.R.T. disk drive monitoring for reliability
* Emergency Flash Recovery protects against failed firmware upgrade
* Drive activity LED support
* Array/Drive Status and drive identification LED support
* Enclosure management via I2C and SES 2.0
* Drive insertion and removal notification
* Online Capacity Expansion and RAID Level Migration
* RoHS 6 of 6 and WEEE compliant

Model 9690SA-8I 9690SA-8E 9690SA-4I4E
Form Factor Low Profile Low Profile Low Profile
Port Count 8 8 8
PCI Express Lanes x8 x8 x8
Raid Levels 0,1,5,6,10,50,Single Disk 0,1,5,6,10,50,Single Disk 0,1,5,6,10,50,Single Disk
Onboard Memory 512MB DDR2 533 512MB DDR2 533 512MB DDR2 533
Connector Type SFF-8087mini-SAS SFF-8087mini-SAS SFF-8087/SFF-8088 mini-SAS
BBU Support Yes Yes Yes

[Langer]

Thanks for the info mate, but I've decided on either:
HighPoint RocketRAID 3510 with an optional BBU *most likely choice*
or
Dell Perc 5/i.

[DonT-FeaR]

well.. better you than me cuz i have no idea when it comes to them

[grevaeg]

Dell Perc would be a great choise, its a bit troublesome to get working on some chipsets though, but you just have to try it out, works in most cases

[Langer]

Hoorah!

My cable/tube sleeving has arrived - finally!
I will be using Nylon Multifilament sleeving - built to military grade specifications.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sleeving-06.jpg
The 'wire harness' coming out the back of this machine will be manages with DuraWrap sleeving - made from ballistic nylon.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sleeving-05.jpg

Here's my order, 2.5"ID durawrap, nylon multifilament sleeving (75' - 225' spools), and 4:1 heatshrink (25' - 50' spools).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sleeving-04.jpg

Some crappy pics showing off the goods:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sleeving-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sleeving-02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sleeving-03.jpg

The quality of this stuff is incredible... and it's very hard to cut (w/o a hot knife). I'm positive that it will definitely suit the build.

I forgot to order 1" heatshrink (but compensated by adding it to my PerformancePCs order which should be here any day) so I can't jump right in and start sleeving my tubes just yet. But I am going to start sleeving the items that I can.

Thanks for reading, more coming soon.

[SXRguyinMA]

$500 in just heatshrink and sleeving...now THATS dedication :bowdown:

[rendermandan]

$500 in just heatshrink and sleeving...now THATS dedication :bowdown:

Um, yeah!

[Langer]

I did a couple of short sleevings tests:
I sleeved the tubing and the anti-kink coils... the sleeving WORTH EVERY PENNY in my mind. The look turned out fantastic.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sleeving-07.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sleeving-08.jpg


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I'd like to hear your opinions on the look.

Thanks

[SXRguyinMA]

the one on the bottom in the first pic looks the best, the other has odd wrinkles in it, but looks great IMHO :up:

[Langer]

I sleeved the tubing and the anti-kink coils.

Please read the text.

[Mach]

Wow! Looks amazing! How hard was it to sleeve over the coils? Will longer pieces be problematic? Any snagging concerns? Can't wait to see it in place.

[SXRguyinMA]

Please read the text.

my bad :neutral:

[rendermandan]

I must admit, that sleaving is the bomb! However, are the anti kink coils absolutly necessary? They do make it look bumpy. Have you tried to see what it would look like with the Coil on the outside of the sleaving? Maybe the coils could be a different accent color? Copper maybe?

Just a suggestion. :)

[Langer]

@Mach Thanks a lot, as always. It was actually a lot easier to sleeve the coil than the bare tube. The coil acted like a screw, and let me just twist the sleeving into place nice and tight. To prevent the coil from snagging I bent the end into a U shape and put the end inside the tube.

@ SXRguyinMA - np mate.

@rendermandan - I will be using the coil for the smaller tube, and I agree about the larger. Earlier today I ordered a length of solid copper tubing 1"OD - 3/4"ID. I will be throwing it onto the lathe and making a bunch of "rings" 15/16"OD - 7/8"ID - 1/4"Long - I'll place these rings strategically along the tube for the larger runs where kinking occurs.

[SXRguyinMA]

if you need copper tube let me know, my dad installs heating systems, so I've got TONS of it laying around :up:

[The boy 4rm oz]

Cool idea mate. I have seen it done before with great success. I tried it with some plastic sleeve I had laying around and couldn't get the right effect.

Here is a link to a project that uses the same method of tube sleeving, looks very cool:
http://www.million-dollar-pc.com/systems-2008/silverstone/murderbox-fc/murderbox-fc.htm

[mittelmeier]

That sleeving looks great. That's the same kind of stuff I used to sleeve hydraulic hoses with. If you are trying to sleeve a long hose, as in anything over 1.5 feet, you'll want the coil on there to make the sleeve go on easier. I think that will look amazing in there with all of the copper. +rep for so many reasons

[Langer]

I decided to do some test sleeving (after all I have a couple extra feet of sleeving).


Still missing the heatshrink, 'tidyness', clamps, and copper antikink rings.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sleeving-09.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sleeving-10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sleeving-11.jpg

[mittelmeier]

That is simply amazing. I can't wait to see it with the heat shrink on it.

[Mach]

Ahh that's what I'm talking about. Beautiful! Add copper rings to that, wow, just wow!

[jdbnsn]

where did that pico-ATX board go?

[The boy 4rm oz]

Even though that's an example you got a very nice effect. Great job.

[Langer]

Thanks fella's.

The pico-ITX is on my desk, I was installing the copper RAM sinks on it.

Thanks guys.
I did a quick sleeve job on a test cable. This 4conductor ribbon is a very tight fit inside the 1/4" sleeve.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sleeving-12.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sleeving-13.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sleeving-14.jpg

[The boy 4rm oz]

It is a tight fit but looks damn good ;).

[DonT-FeaR]

so nice... omg well done

[gramatton]

Man, looks absolutely amazing.

Liked the big Example Only on the pics lol

[Langer]

I get the feeling across my worklogs that some people don't understand that the majority of this case will be shrouded in laser etched, waterjet cut, copper plate.

I've taken the liberty of colouring my part diagrams, and illustrating what they will look like after bending, and assembly.

I hope this helps some of you visualize the final product.

Orange = Copper
Grey = Carbon Fiber

*click for big*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-assembly-LOW.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-assembly.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-bay-shroud-LOW.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-bay-shroud.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-fan-grills-LOW.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-fan-grills.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-feet-fins-LOW.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-feet-fins.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-front-shroud-LOW.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-front-shroud.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-rear-shroud-LOW.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-rear-shroud.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-gfx-shroud-LOW.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-gfx-shroud.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-psu-mount-LOW.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-psu-mount.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-rad-grill-LOW.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-rad-grill.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-rad-shroud-LOW.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-rad-shroud.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-rear-bay-shroud-.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-rear-bay-shroud.jpg)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-wall-shroud-LOW.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cutouts-wall-shroud.jpg)

I hope that helps. =)


Thanks for reading.

[SXRguyinMA]

this things going to look amazing :bowdown:

[Langer]

Quick update:

I WANT THESE!

evil-98 from XtremeSystems is making them... I'm not sure about availability just yet. I can't wait to hear back from him.

here is his thread at XS (http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showthread.php?t=197396&highlight=evil+custom+clamps)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/misc/evil_tubeclamp14.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/misc/evil_tubeclamp15.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/misc/evil_tubeclamp16.jpg

[rendermandan]

wow, those are sexy as hell!!!!

[SXRguyinMA]

yes indeed, especially all the tasty colors...mmmm....

[The boy 4rm oz]

As I have always said and will continue to say this is gonna be bloody awesome upon completion. BTW, very sexy clamps.

[calumc]

i just read the whole thing and I have only one word.
sex

[DonT-FeaR]

lol nice renders man... wanna make some for me lol.... i cant make em for peanuts..

great work

[Dane Bramage]

that's just sick stuff dude. can't wait to see the whole thing done.

[Langer]

Unfortunately:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-damn-you-NCIX-1.jpg
NCIX wont be getting the others until the end of the week at the soonest... and I'm pissed off.

-

However the one drive has arrived, and so has my Massive Performance-PCs order (http://forums.bit-tech.net/showpost.php?p=1867894&postcount=539)


The parcels arrived today and I'm ecstatic... but I only got one pic taken before my camera died on me.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-order-unboxed.jpg

In the photo:
1x 64GB G.Skill SSD
4 x Connectx™ SATA 90deg Connector Female - End Cap
4 x Connectx™ SATA 90deg Connector Female - Pass-through Cap
5 x Connectx™ 4-Pin Floppy Connector Female
8 x Connectx™ 6-Pin PCI Express Connector Female
8 x Connectx™ 8-pin PCI Express Connector Female
5 x Connectx™ 3-Pin Fan Connector Male
2 x Connectx™ 24-pin ATX Connector Female
7 x USB 2 X 5 Header Connector Female
Power Pins:
80 x USB Header Female Pins
200 x Connectx™ ATX Female Pins
100 x Connectx™ Molex 4pin Female Pins
100 x Connectx™ Molex 4pin Male Pins
60 x Connectx™ Floppy 4pin Female Pins
Data Cables:
4 x E-SATA II Cable w/ Metal Latch - 6'
4 x SATA II Cable w/ Metal Latch - Straight to 90deg - 18"
2 x A.C. Ryan Dual Internal SATA to eSATA PCI Bracket
Cooling:
36" x PrimoFlex Pro LRT Clear Tubing - 1/2"ID X 3/4"OD
36" x PrimoFlex Pro LRT Clear Tubing - 3/8"ID X 1/2"OD
16 x Clamps for 1/2" Tubing
10 x Clamps for 3/8" Tubing
2 x Bitspower G1/4" Stop Fitting
6 x Bitspower Premium G1/4" Fitting Spacer
1 x Bitspower Rotary "Q" - Dark Nickel Plated
Misc:
10 x Cord Clips 3/8" x 3/8"
24" x Heatshrink 3:1 - 1"ID
50 x Black Aluminum Pop Rivets 1/8" X 1/4"

Missing from action - PPCs forgot to box one item, but I can't blame them considering this order had over 200 items:
10 x Connectx™ 3-Pin Fan Connector Female

More pics coming once I get some more batteries tomorrow.

[Langer]

I found some batteries... I had a stash apparently (a stash of batteries, that is).
(Does anyone else here hide things on themselves and forget where?)

Many pics...

First up, G.Skill 64GB SSD - there are THREE more of these babies coming to me as soon as NCIX gets it's **** together.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-64gb-ssd-02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-64gb-ssd-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-64gb-ssd-03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-64gb-ssd-04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-64gb-ssd-05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-64gb-ssd-06.jpg



Molex Connectors galore. I plan on using my own wiring throughout so I need custom plugs - I'm not looking forward to wiring this Beast TBH.
Internal 2x5pin USB header plugs:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-2x5-molex-01.jpg



3pin fan plugs:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-3pin-molex-01.jpg



6pin Molex plugs:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-6pin-molex-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-6pin-molex-02.jpg



8pin Molex plugs:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-8pin-molex-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-8pin-molex-02.jpg



24pin ATX Molex plugs:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-24pin-molex-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-24pin-molex-02.jpg



A Bitspower "Q" fitting... that still isnt the right variety, I'll have to head over to Parker Fluidline to get what I want (I may have to make it myself):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-bitspower-q-01.jpg



Some cable clips, that will hold the GFX power lines parallel to the motherboard tray:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cable-clips-01.jpg



The clear tubing that will be used as "windows":
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-cleartubing-01.jpg



Four 6' black eSATA cables for my external drives:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-esata-cables-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-esata-cables-02.jpg



A couple more bitspower fill stops:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-fillstop-03-1.jpg



Some 4pin floppy plugs:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-floppy-molex-01.jpg



The hose clamps that I ordered before discovering Evil-98's clamps (http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showthread.php?t=197396&highlight=evil+custom+clamps):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-hoseclamps-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-hoseclamps-02.jpg



50 black rivits, because my local SB Simpson had none:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-rivits-01.jpg



4 Sata Molex connectors, punch down style - 2kinds - terminated end, and open end:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sata-molex-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sata-molex-02.jpg



Two AC Ryan "backies" or whatever they called them. Sata > eSATA backplane adaptor:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sata-to-esata-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sata-to-esata-02.jpg



4 Sata2 cables with 90degree ends:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sata2-cables-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sata2-cables-02.jpg



Some 1" heatshrink, because I forgot to get some from CableOrganizer.com (probably for the best, because I don't need another 200' spool of the stuff)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sleeving-15.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-sleeving-16.jpg

And PINS! "Who knows how many... maybe a million... maybe more - nobody knows really" (slightly adapted Jeremy Clarkson circa Supercar Showdown... that tubo scene was funny):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-PINS-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-PINS-02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-PINS-03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-PINS-04.jpg

Performance PC's did forget to pack my 10x female molex plugs, but can you blame them... there was over 200 items in that box afterall.

*PHEW* that's a lot of stuff... and I GET TO PUT IT ALL TOGETHER, jealous? I wouldn't be.. Hahaha.

That's all for today, I've been busy this evening fixing my Old Man's Laptop (http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=160184&highlight=laptop+color+inverted) - and HP really really isn't bit on quick disassembly.

Thanks for reading, tune in this evening for some progress.

[The boy 4rm oz]

That is a lot of gear, good luck putting it all together.

[mittelmeier]

lots of goodies. Have fun assembling them all.

[jdbnsn]

I'm really looking forward to seeing how you handle all this wiring. Keep up the phenomenal work!

[Langer]

Thanks fellas!

however...

DAMN DAMN DAMN!!!

Does anyone have a trick for crimping molex pins for an idiot who forgot to order a crimping tool?

(I've just now ordered a crimper from PPCs, but that'll take a week+)

I believe a "duh" is in order. haha

[SXRguyinMA]

you mean this:

http://www.postwhore.biz/albums/userpics/10082/doh.gif

lol

[Langer]

Exactly!


I started wiring my GTX280's tonight.
First I soldered the pins into place, because I didn't want to wait for the crimper to arrive.
I also sleeved the ribbon cable style wires with my Nylon Multifilament sleeving.


Believe it or not but these power lines will pretty much be the ONLY VISIBLE POWER LINES when the build is done.


The tubing is not complete , and all the heatshrinking is temporary, also the hose clamps will be swapped out.

Here is step 1 in the wiring puzzle:
I crossed the wires like this so make bending them around the GFX card easier.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-gfx-power-01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-gfx-power-03.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-gfx-power-02.jpg

I've also installed the clear tubes that will act as windows:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-gfx-power-04.jpg

[rendermandan]

Dude, this is turning out amazing. Great Job. +rep

[The boy 4rm oz]

Personally I think the clear tubing looks out of place. The installation is coming together really well though, looks good.

[overmark]

I love the cable management. I like how everything looks so sleek. I have to agree the clear section looks a bit out of place, but would probably look better when the coolant is in there.

[Langer]

Thanks guys.

Rico from Watercool told me today that my PrometheusCU edition Heatkiller rev3.0 was shipped and is on it's way to me.
I also had Rico send me some pics of his shop...

First up, here's the link to the watercool website:
*click for link*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercoollogo.jpg (http://www.watercool.de/aktuell/)

the Watercool workshop - Rico's left the captions up to me because he says his English isn't very good.

Outside the shop:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-shop-01.jpg

What looks to be a couple of 5-axis CNC mills - some very impressive equipment for the machinist among us. You can see a bunch of what look to be GTX280 waterblocks in the bins:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-shop-02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-shop-03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-shop-04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-shop-05.jpg

This looks like some delrin Heatkiller 3.0 tops.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-shop-06.jpg

A bigass bending break, a piece of equipment that I REALLY REALLY want.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-shop-07.jpg

A hydraulic drop saw, cutting what looks to be delrin slabs for waterblock tops:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-shop-08.jpg

A CNC lathe... another bit I'd kill to own:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-shop-09.jpg

A MASSIVE CNC metal stamping punch making waterblock details, and mounts:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-shop-10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-shop-11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-shop-12.jpg

To be recycled scrap metal and shavings:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-shop-13.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-shop-14.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-shop-15.jpg


Some of you asked for some interior shots of the Heatkiller 3.0 CoolingMasters.com (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cooling-masters.com%2Fnews-899-l-interieur-du-waterblock-heatkiller-rev3-devoile.html&sl=fr&tl=en&history_state0=) did a quickie review of the block and took pics of the inside:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-heatkiller-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-heatkiller-02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-heatkiller-03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-heatkiller-04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-heatkiller-05.jpg

[Langer]

I 'finished' the GFX power lines.

I added the quotes, along with some slack in the lines, because I'm going to solder the wires to the cards... to clean it up a bit.

The heatshrink is also temporary

The tools I used:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-gfx-power-05.jpg

Here's my 'needle nose crimp job':
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-gfx-power-06.jpg

Add solder:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-gfx-power-07.jpg

Result:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-gfx-power-08.jpg

Here are the wires in place, the heatshrink needs to be finalized, but I cut all the wires on an angle so they feed in the correct direction out of the PSU without straining.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-gfx-power-09.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-gfx-power-10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-gfx-power-11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-gfx-power-12.jpg

I'm also going to relocate the little black cable clips on the motherboard tray - to be neater.

Thanks for reading. Tune in soon - NEXT I tackle the soldered ATX and 12v lines! =)

[nevermind1534]

Good luck on the soldering job. +rep

[The boy 4rm oz]

A very impressive workshop he has there. I too would kill for that sort of equipment at my disposal lol ;).

Cabling is looking fantastic, you have put a lot of thought into how you are doing it. It is really paying off.

[SXRguyinMA]

looks awesome :up:

[mittelmeier]

Looking great man!

[Langer]

Guess what's coming next?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-atx-power-01.jpg

[The boy 4rm oz]

Looks like you are going to have some fun with the mobo power connectors, makes for a neater system ;).

[SXRguyinMA]

sweet :up:

[Langer]

I'm out of desoldering braid, so I'll have to run out and get some more in a bit here.


I've made the necessary cuts to the motherboard tray.

Perhaps some of you will remember this illustration:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-ATX-wire-diagram.jpg


The cuts correspond with this plan.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-atx-power-02.jpg

[Langer]

I love my Weller WES51 iron, It's a great unit but it's not getting hot enough. In fact none of my irons are working for me... even the massively overpowered 260WATT Weller D550, and the 40WATT Weller SP40LK.

Do motherboards use some kind of super high temp solder or something?
None of my irons get hot enough to make it properly workable, it just refuses to melt like one would expect it to.

Pumps, and braid have very little effect.

I've removed about %90 of the solder material from each joint but that last %10 wont budge, it wont even melt.

Any advice before I break out my little torch?

and I'm not buying a $600 hot air desoldering station - yet.

This is the first time I've ever had this much trouble desoldering - figures this happens to me on the first thing that I'd genuinely prefer not to destroy. haha

[The boy 4rm oz]

Factory solder really is tough. Unless you can get yourself an ultra powered soldering iron lol you would have to make do with your Weller.

[Langer]

I have several irons, and one is a massive over powered 260WATT gun - even when cranked to above 900deg nothing happens.

I tried my small 40watt iron (SP40LK), my weller station (WES51), my 260WATT gun (D550), and my SMT station (WD2000M)... none had any effect (and yes I do have a boner for weller products).


I've even tried using my solder to heat the factory solder... no dice.

This is the first time I've ever had this much trouble desoldering - figures this happens to me on the first thing that I'd genuinely prefer not to destroy. haha



Methinks I'll have to use a torch, but first I'm going to see if any of my contacts have any heat flow gear I could borrow.
I seem to recall a buddy of mine having a full blown turbine desoldering station.

I assumed it was wave soldered but I didn't think that they used kryptonite to do it.

I just plugged in my clothes iron and my IR thermometer says it's considerably colder than any of my soldering irons... so there goes that idea.

I think the only way I'm going to get this thing off is to use a soldering torch or a concentrated flow from my heatgun. I'm pretty sure both of these methods are quite likely to destroy the board though. If that's the case then when I get a replacement mobo I'll leave the connectors in place and just solder the wires to the bottom of the pins.



I'm going to wait and see if anyone has any suggestions for me, I've posted this dilemma on about a 12 forums... I guess this will have to wait until tomorrow to see what my fellow geeks have to say.

Pain in the ass.

[LiTHiUM0XiD3]

um... ive soldered things offa my motherboards fine... and thats with a crappy "the Source" - Radio Shack $15 iron... 30 watt

[Langer]

So have I.. but this one is stubborn.

From the responses I've gotten on other forums, this seems to be a fairly common issue for wave soldered products.

[crazybillybob]

With the new Rohs compliant products this is an issue. The leadless solder takes more heat to melt. and it's hard to get the heat into the vias in these seven layer boards. Might try a soldering iron that is labeled for leadless solder.

Good luck!

Great work so far!

[Langer]

That's exactly what I've been saying... so today I went out and got a new torch/butane iron.

I'm pretty sure I'll cook my board.

If I have to do it again, I'll leave the plugs in place - that would have saved me all this grief.

[Langer]

I went to Lee Valley Tools today.
Among other things I got this.

A 10LB BOX OF SAND PAPER FOR $15.00CAD!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/100_1070.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/100_1068.jpg

Everything from 20gritt to 2000gritt.
Quite the amazing deal.

The soldering torch set I got today is much like this one (http://cgi.ebay.ca/STEINEL-77000-Ultimate-Butane-Kit-Torch-Soldering_W0QQitemZ350139375782QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ BI_Soldering?hash=item350139375782&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A16|39%3A1|240%3A1318).

[The boy 4rm oz]

That is a crap load of sand paper, great bargain.

[gramatton]

That's a butt load of sand paper.

And if you do cook your board and leave the plugs on the next one you're gonna get alot of, "Hey man your powers not plugged in." Then you can be like "It works on magic man." lol

[Langer]

That's exactly the plan Grammaton - I'm just going to get a new board, there's no chance that I'll get these plugs off without hurting the board.

[The boy 4rm oz]

Damn you ASUS and your stack cool lol.

[Langer]

Lookey what came in the mail today:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-64gb-ssd-07.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-64gb-ssd-08.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-64gb-ssd-09.jpg

The rest of my 64GB G.Skill SSDs

[The boy 4rm oz]

Damn man, I thought you would have waited to get the Intel E(xtreme) series. They are only 32GB, $800US but they are the fastest drive to date lol.

Either way any SSD is a winner.

[Langer]

I got all these drives for about $800 - they aren't anywhere near as quick as the Intel drives but they'll be in RAID0 on a dedicated RAID card with processor and battery backup... so I bet they'll FLY.

[jwood314]

Langer,

The reason you can't desolder very easily is most likely due to the fact that most of the pins dump directly into a ground or power plane. You are heating up a large portion of the board when you try to remove the last bit o solder. This is also an issue when you resolder the wires back in. Takes some kahones to hack up a brand new MB. I did design for 8 years before doing a 180 ans joining the Air Force. Without the air station, I always had problems desoldering from very large planes. Also the oz of copper on the plane can also make a difference, 0.5 oz to 2 oz copper, the more copper there, the harder to solder.

You work so far is first rate!

Cheers,
James

[Langer]

I determined the very same thing. ASUS has a tech called "Stack Cool" which is an extra layer of copper sheet to dissipate heat from the board - among other things that's the problem.

Another delivery.


Switches:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-switches-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-switches-02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-switches-03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-switches-04.jpg

[nevermind1534]

Could you give me a link for one of the switches? I think I had it, but I must have lost the link.

[Langer]

Google - Bulgin Vandal Resistant Switches
I don't know where you're located but I got mine from Performance-PCs.com, all said and done they were about $147 shipped.

[nevermind1534]

Thanks for the info; I like those ones. I'm in the US.

[crazybillybob]

Take a look over at AllElectronics
They have Domed Vandal proof switches for $3.95us (http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/PB-143/HD-METAL-PUSHBUTTON-N.O.-MOMENTARY/-/1.html)
Or Flat topped Vandal Proof ones for $3.95us (http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/PB-144/HD-METAL-PUSHBUTTON-FLAT-MOMENATRY-N.O./-/1.html)

There's no lighted ring in them but a frosted ring of plex and an LED around them looks pretty too :) and is a bit cheaper ;)


Nice work again Langer! Very top shelf!!!

[The boy 4rm oz]

Man those switches are sweet. They look like copper powered down.

[gramatton]

Recently got one for my computer. Awesome switches if a bit pricey. Mine was $16USD for a black flattop with green ring. That and it didn't come wired, those cost more.

I like it though. Nice audible click, makes it feel sturdy lol.

[Langer]

Quick drop in:

I'm headed north for x-mas some what unexpectedly.

My grandfather is due to pass-on any day now and I'd like to see him one last time, so I'll be gone until the 30th.

Solong folks. Have a very merry christmas.

[The boy 4rm oz]

Sorry to hear about your Grandfather mate, mine passed away mid last year. Enjoy your time with him and enjoy your Christmas.

[Matthew]

This mod is blowing my mind.

[gramatton]

Sorry to hear about your grandpa man. Go have sometime with him. Didn't get to when mine died, so I know how that is.

[Langer]

Thanks a lot folks! I appreciate all the very kind words of support.

My Grandpa is still kicking, even the doctors say he should be in the Guinness book.

About 15yrs ago he was diagnosed with a severe form of Alzheimer's called Picks(sp?). At this point in time he is all but completely brain dead.

He's been in intensive care at a psychiatric hospital for the past few years.
Last year before Christmas we decided not to replace his pace-maker battery - and we were told that once the battery dies so would he... that battery died a year ago now and he's still fighting.

Seeing him now was heartbreaking to say the least. He is on a morphine drip to stay off the pain, he's on oxygen because his lungs are dieing, and he's bed ridden with a 24hr nurse.

He has an average heartbeat of about ~20BPM!!! and is still kicking.

He's always been one of the toughest SOB's I've ever met, and even in the final moments of his life that stands true.

I'm very happy to have seen him one last time - as it's only a matter of time now.
By all medical definitions he should have passed over a year ago, recently he took a turn for the worse and was given only a few days... and now it's nothing short of miraculous that he's still with us.

[The boy 4rm oz]

Glad to hear your grandpa is still going mate.

[Langer]

Thanks mate!

I came back from by brief 'holiday' to have this baby waiting for me:

A custom PrometheusCU edition Watercool Heatkiller rev3.0... and DAMN!!! this block is a work of art - the internals alone are dead nuts perfect.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-heatkiller-10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-heatkiller-11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-heatkiller-12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-heatkiller-13.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-heatkiller-14.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-heatkiller-15.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-watercool-heatkiller-16.jpg

More soon, I'm just getting back into the groove of things on my end.

[nevermind1534]

Wow, that looks nice.

[The boy 4rm oz]

Damn man, that is one hot block.. I love that Heatkiller stuff.

[Matthew]

Sexy...hands down...sexy.

[gramatton]

That is pure sex man. Love the look.

[mittelmeier]

That's one amazing looking block.

[Langer]

I've been swamped with real-life the past weeks.

however:
I spent the past few days building myself a reflex still for making -among other things- potato vodka.

The irony here is that I don't even drink.

I just decided to try something new to keep my fresh. I'm constantly doing things like this - I have an insatiable desire to learn new things.

For example: About a month ago I built some Ham radios for myself and a friend. My goal was to be able to chat from a laptop -> through a Morse code oscillator -> across the air -> back into another oscillator -> into another laptop. I saw it as a sort of post apocalyptic/zombie invasion communication plan. It worked by-the way, and before long we had our own AM radio station... before almost getting fined - did you know these things need licenses?


I haven't yet taken and pictures of the completed still but I'm gong to start with some teasers for you all. The entire still was built for about ~$150.00 and the construction assumes that you care capable of soldering copper pipe and have very basic DIY knowledge.

I plan on distilling for the first time on Friday/Saturday - I'll then post a log of the parts/construction/process/recipe/and the dangers.

For now here are some teaser shots:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/the-still/100_1141.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/the-still/100_1142.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/the-still/100_1143.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/the-still/100_1147.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/the-still/100_1148.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/the-still/100_1149.jpg

The 90% complete article - before cleaning:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/the-still/100_1154.jpg

Eventually I'd like to make an automated Laptop controlled still with computer controlled valves, heaters, and a PC radiator with fan control.

Hahahahaha

[mittelmeier]

That still looks sweet! Can't wait for a how to on that I may need to make myself one too.

[nevermind1534]

and the construction assumes that you care capable of soldering copper pipe and have very basic DIY knowledge.

I got some experience soldering copper pipe when I installed a new water heater last month. It took me a few tries before I was able to get everything done good enough (the flame drawing all of the water to where I was soldering really pissed me off). What I learned was to only do one piece at a time, not all 5. Pipes are the ONLY things that I will use lead-free solder with. The lead-free stuff really sucks when working with electronics.

[The boy 4rm oz]

Man that is cool, we have one made out of an old copper tub with a wood lid all hidden away in a stripped out old washing machine lol. We make Grappa every year.

[nevermind1534]

I guess it would be interesting to make your own potato vodka, even if you don't drink.

[jdbnsn]

That is cool as hell! You should post all of your misc mod projects in the "Misc Projects" forum, that is exactly what we are hoping to attract there. +rep for the innovation!

[DonT-FeaR]

wow thats cool nice work man just re read last 4 pages to refresh myself.. mods going great

[Langer]

No updates today, I'm tired from my journey - I've been traveling the past weeks.

While in California there's been progress:
The carbon panels are being cut and shipped back to me, the copper pieces follow shortly thereafter. This has been a large factor in my hold-ups for a variety of reasons, so things should be progressing more rapidly once I get these pieces.

My new mobo, RAID card, and BBU have arrived, as well

I also got word that my Grandfather finally passed-on last Sunday. A magnificent life topped off with a tragic final decade.

As much as I just want to relax in my own bed after all the traveling I've been doing the past month, I'll be off on the road again ~700KM north to Sault Ste Marie tomorrow to prepare for the funeral.
I was going to drive up on Monday, but I've got a flight instead Tomorrow.

Things are progressing, but slowly.

[sloppyc]

Hey, another Canadian in California, sweet! Great work on this rig, you make me almost embarrassed of my own work.


Condolences. Best to you and your family.

[Langer]

@SloppyC - I was just there for about a week.


I snapped some quick pics of the new hardware and replacement motherboard (I've actually had this stuff for about a week now). I'll be flying north this afternoon.

Here's the Highpoint RocketRAID 3510 with a Highpoint BBU-03 battery backup unit installed:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-highpoint-rocketraid--1.jpg

Here's a closeup of the BBU-03:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-highpoint-bbu-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-highpoint-bbu-02.jpg

The SSD's that it will drive:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-highpoint-rocketraid-351.jpg

The new motherboard:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-asus-m3n-ht-deluxe-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-asus-m3n-ht-deluxe-05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-asus-m3n-ht-deluxe-06.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-asus-m3n-ht-deluxe-07.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-asus-m3n-ht-deluxe-08.jpg

NB:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-asus-m3n-ht-deluxe-03.jpg

SB:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-asus-m3n-ht-deluxe-02.jpg

My favorite feature, ExpressGate:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-asus-m3n-ht-deluxe-04.jpg
Cheesy ExpressGate video from ASUS:
w41vS3UcZdk

[rendermandan]

That video is pretty cheesy!

[gramatton]

That video was pretty bad.

About how long would that battery backup last? It doesn't look that big.

[Langer]

The BBU is just supposed backup any cache contents in the case of a sudden power-loss. It's just a failsafe, it's not supposed to keep your drives running or anything. It'll probally last a couple years, which is likely longer than this system will be used for.

1 charge from the battery can keep your cache data safe for ~48hrs.


HighPoint provides a battery backup unit BBU-03 for use with its high-performance RocketRAID 3500/4300 Series RAID controllers. The battery back up unit protect the integrity of the cache data on the RocketRAID 3500/4300 Series host adapter by providing backup power if there is a complete AC power failure or a brief power outage.

[Mach]

Sorry to hear about your grandfather's passing. From what you described, he sounds like he made quite a mark. Safe travels.

[DonT-FeaR]

wasnt she ment to be going to work?

[Langer]

Thanks Mach.

Dont-Fear... wha??

[The boy 4rm oz]

I am very sorry to hear about your Grandfather Langer. I know what it feels like to lose a Grandfather.

On a happier note the mod is looking great.

[d_stilgar]

Where did you get the power switches in post #350? Do they light up?

[rendermandan]

Sorry to hear the bad news about your Grandfather. -Our prayers are with you and your family.

[SXRguyinMA]

sorry to hear, my wife's and I thoughts are with you and your family

[crazybillybob]

Google - Bulgin Vandal Resistant Switches
I don't know where you're located but I got mine from Performance-PCs.com, all said and done they were about $147 shipped. (Quote from post #352)


Here's some links to Performance-pcs.com for the switches noted.
Smaller Switches 16mm (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=412&zenid=78147be74934797925dd43b8df320986)

The Larger 22mm Switches (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=375)

And yes you can get ones that Light up (either large or small from the links above).

Good luck!

[Langer]

@The boy 4rm oz - As always, thanks a lot man.

@rendermandan - Thank you for that. Dark Carbon is looking fantastic by the way.

@SXRguyinMA - Thank you - much appreciated.

@crazybillybob - Haha, thanks a lot mate.

[DonT-FeaR]

sorry to hear about ur grand father ...

i was talking about the lady in the video b4.... she was off to work....

[EspoNation]

Sorry to hear about everything Langer. I have been following this log for sometime now but only just became a member. You are doing some amazing work! Keep it up!

[gramatton]

So long with no info.... I need my fix man :)

[Langer]

I've just not yet completed anything more to reveal just yet.

I want to complete the chassis before going any further and much of that work is being done by an outside party. I'm having a hard time getting people to follow-up on their word.


Allow me to elaborate.

-I'm trying to get this work done for free - or at least as close to as possible.
-There is several thousand bucks worth of machine time alone in my required parts, and I don't want to pay that.
-My Dad offered to cut the parts for me using his carbon fiber companies waterjet machines in his California based plant. (the of his factories outside China with waterjets)
-It took Dad about 6-weeks to actually get on it to the point where notable progress is being made.
-Unfortunately the General Manager of the Cali plant doesn't want to do any personal jobs - which I can respect because it's unfair that the big-boss' kid should get to use the production equipment.
-I'm in the process of negotiating with the California GM, and also with another local source who is offering me a really great price (hopefully he will stand by it... I've encountered several other who have not).


Long story short... I keep meeting asshole machinists that offer a price - then delay after delay come up with a ludicrous price. This process has added months of delays unfortunately.

[The boy 4rm oz]

Sorry to hear about your difficulties with finding a good machinest, I'm sure you will eventually ;).

[DonT-FeaR]

at least you get responses :) bl tho

[EspoNation]

that is sad to hear langer. but look at it this way. you still pretty much have an awesome computer the way it is :)

[jhanlon303]

It's always frustrating to have to wait for someone else to do something you need done. I had an eBay seller kicked off from under me AFTER I ordered a SSHD. Now I have to fight eBay and PayPal to get that money back. Sometimes the real world is just hell bent on creating problems.

But you do have your still!:banana:

john

[Langer]

In the spirit of progress, I decided to change my fittings and tubing style and configuration to accommodate the new reservoirs.

I made a "small" AquaTuning.de (http://aquatuning.de/) order just now:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/AquaTuningOrder.png



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/AquaComputerLogo.png (http://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?products_id=2285)
and as I mentioned I also have 2 of these puppies en-route as well...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/AquaComputer-CopperTube-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/AquaComputer-CopperTube-02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/AquaComputer-CopperTube-03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/AquaComputer-CopperTube-04.jpg
With special thanks to Shoggy from Aquacomputer for giving me the heads up on their re-release (I pleaded with him several months back for a pair of these reservoirs... so I'm elated to see them available again).



More stuff to fit into this already jam packed case. I may only be able to fit one of these reservoirs into Prometheus... but not a big deal I'll be happy to have a spare "copperTube" in my collection of parts.

---

Some of you may be wondering why I don't just use my router for all the cutting?
Answer - the router is old and out of alignment and one of the motors is burned out... that is until last week. An engineer friend of mine had experience with such things so I put him to work.
I'll be cutting my own parts again - but this time with a capable machine.
Before it was unlevel - didn't travel smoothly - a motor was burned out - and it was a decade out of service... this time it's all calibrated and ready to go and I actually have time allocated to finishing.
I have everything for this project complete and waiting... once I get the actual structural elements done it wont be more than a week to + build + plug in + test + tweak + cry.

Today I spent the afternoon in the shop preparing my drawings and the machine for cutting. I'll be going back to the shop Monday/Tuesday to complete cutting of the FINAL carbon parts.

TUESDAY there will be much progress. Stay tuned until then. ;)

[DonT-FeaR]

lol we want more pics :P

[The boy 4rm oz]

I want some pics, I'm at Uni and they don't show up :(.

[Mach]

Oh its so on... :)

Nice basket of parts you got there. Can't wait for the update. Oh yeah, welcome back!

[The boy 4rm oz]

Those copper reservoirs look so so awesome, lucky you.

[EspoNation]

those rez's are hot! i am so happy there was an update. i was need one! cant wait to see how it turns out!

[Drum Thumper]

Oh its so on... :)

Nice basket of parts you got there. Can't wait for the update. Oh yeah, welcome back!

LOL. Two steampunkers about to duel. This should be good.

[Mach]

Two steampunkers about to duel.

No, no, :ovoh: I simply meant it was back on. Nothing steamy about Langer's mods; just sexy CF and copper.

[DonT-FeaR]

:( dissapointing Mach... lol...

[knowledgegranted]

Hey on page 31 of this thread what program did you use to make those layouts? They are pretty nice!

+Rep, I love the build and idea

[Langer]

Thanks a lot guys, it feels good to get my head back in the game. I'm excited to get this project finished - I want my desk space back.

I'm going to have to agree with Mach - I don't think this project is very steampunk'ish, at least that wasn't my intent. That said... I LOVE steampunk style and falling into that category is by no means a bad thing.

@knowledgegranted - All of my sketches have been drawn in Adobe Illustrator - one line at a time... it makes drawing fins take a few hours, but I like the results.
They are just simply perspective line drawings, and in reality it would be quicker to have drafted them by hand.
Below is an example of one of the more complicated concept drawings for this project that was actually drawn in perspective - the ones on pg 31 were quick sketches drawn out of perspective.
*click for big*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheusfeetconcept-04.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheusfeetconcept-04.png)
Here's a progress shot showing how it was made:
*click for big*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-PERSPECTIVE.png (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-PERSPECTIVE.png)

[SXRguyinMA]

most people use google sketchup (http://sketchup.google.com/), its a free 3D design program, really neat. I used the same program for the sketches in both of the mods I'm workin on now, links below :D

:EDIT: or in his case Adobe Illustrator lol

[Langer]

In the spirit of the 'RealRedRaider forums' overkill style that I've come to love and appreciate I've decided to step up my fans, and with them my fan controller...

I emailed Sidewinders for a quote on the below just a few moments ago:
: I revised my order - swapped the AFB1212SHE fans for AFB1212GHE models instead (the difference between the two is 151.85 vs 240.96cfm)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/SidewinderOrder-rev2.png

The thermal material and cleaner is for another unrelated project.

[The boy 4rm oz]

I was under the impression that high speed fans like that pretty much set fan controllers on fire lol, something about the voltages.

[Langer]

The Wattage is the problem, Dome Deltas can draw 48W a piece.
Most controllers offer under 12 watts per channel, so the bend is less than ideal.

The FC-2 controller can put out 48Watts, but I'm not convinced of it's abilities yet. I have a feeling that it's a POS and will make my fans trip out.

I have a plan B in the from of home-made fan control should the FC-2 let me down.

[Drum Thumper]

No, no, :ovoh: I simply meant it was back on. Nothing steamy about Langer's mods; just sexy CF and copper.

Bummer, I was hoping to see some friendly steampunk competition. Winner gets the princess and all that.

[The boy 4rm oz]

Bummer, I was hoping to see some friendly steampunk competition. Winner gets the princess and all that.

Sounds kinda like Mario to me lol.

Yeah Langer a custom fan controller sounds good, you could integrate a software program into it like Dan did in Dark Carbon.

[Drum Thumper]

Sounds kinda like Mario to me lol.

Yeah Langer a custom fan controller sounds good, you could integrate a software program into it like Dan did in Dark Carbon.

Nah, more like the steampunk video that was in the video and links section a while back. I'd dig it up, but I'm too damn lazy.

[Langer]

I made a 'few' revisions to the part designs over the past week.
I've settled on the -absolute- FINAL design for this project.

I'll give you a taste below in the form of my Concept drawings, but you'll have to visualize the bends yourself... As for where these parts are going to be installed - you'll just have to wait and see if you can't already.

Black Lines = Cuts.
Dotted Lines = Bends.
Grey Lines = Rastering.

48" x 48" = 2mm copper plate
*click for big ~3000px*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_COPPER-FINAL.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/COPPER-FINAL.jpg)

36"x 36" = 1mm 'Rigid' Aerospace Milspec Carbon
*click for big ~3000px*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_CARBON-1-FINAL.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/CARBON-1-FINAL.jpg)

36"x 48" = 1.58mm 'Ultra Rigid' Aerospace Milspec Carbon
*click for big ~3000px*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_CARBON-2-FINAL.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/CARBON-2-FINAL.jpg)

Illustration showing how Carbon and Copper come together - minus the raster etchings.
*click for big ~3000px*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_COPPER-COLOR-FINAL.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/COPPER-COLOR-FINAL.jpg)

Comments are welcome as always. Pictures follow Wednesday.

[DonT-FeaR]

there to small :P bottom one looks good tho

[Langer]

*click for big ~3000px*
Does anyone actually read the thread? lol

[DonT-FeaR]

i do but... i thought that was like the link ish part :) sorry dude

[The boy 4rm oz]

Dude A++ for design. I freekish thing is that I know all the parts will tern out exactly as you dew them lol.

[EspoNation]

there are some of us still hanging in here. was so sad when everything went away for sooo long :(. but it is back and i cannot wait to see how it comes out! :)

[Langer]

Thanks a lot guys. Very much appreciated as always.


I'm sorry for the crappy quality but I left my camera at home when I left to play in the shop for 3days.

I've completed cutting all of these parts:
36"x 36" = 1mm 'Rigid' Aerospace Milspec Carbon
*click for big ~3000px*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_CARBON-1-FINAL.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/CARBON-1-FINAL.jpg)

I've already programmed and downloaded these to the machine, they will be cut next mon/tues:
36"x 48" = 1.58mm 'Ultra Rigid' Aerospace Milspec Carbon
*click for big ~3000px*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_CARBON-2-FINAL.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/CARBON-2-FINAL.jpg)


And these will be cut shortly thereafter:
48" x 48" = 2mm copper plate
*click for big ~3000px*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_COPPER-FINAL.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/COPPER-FINAL.jpg)

I'll upload the part pics tomorrow when the sun's out and I can get decent pics - CF doesn't photograph easily... sunshine helps a lot.

For now, I give you crappy cell phone pics and videos of the cutting in action. Believe it or not all these years and this is the first time I've actually taken advantage of a cell camera - you'll notice this inexperience in my sideways videos... lol.

First, here are some pics I took of the router a while back:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-router01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-router02.jpg

Photos:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-RouterInAction-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-RouterInAction-02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-RouterInAction-03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-RouterInAction-04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-RouterInAction-05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-RouterInAction-06.jpg

Videos:
VIDEO 2 (http://vimeo.com/3756495)
VIDEO 3 (http://vimeo.com/3756504)
VIDEO 4 (http://vimeo.com/3756513)
VIDEO 5 (http://vimeo.com/3756517)


-


More updates and MUCH BETTER PHOTOS coming soon.

[DonT-FeaR]

i am truely jealous of you

[p0Pe]

amazing work on the sketches! many people says that true modders does everything in hand, and that cnc work is "cheating" but thats BS! :D the time it takes to measure, remeasure, draw, fit, and jiggle with the drawings takes ages! xD +rep for sure man:)

[EspoNation]

looks awesome! i watched all the videos and i have to say that it is pretty sweet! how long does it take to cut a full sheet into all the parts? that cnc machine seems to be in no hurry lol. looks awesome cant wait to see the next update!

[rendermandan]

Thats a very nice large sheet of CF you got there...

I wish I had that cnc machine to cut mine out.

[Langer]

Thanks a lot guys.

In refrence to the speed, I'm only cutting at 15-20in/min because I'm using a teeny tiny 1/16" cutter.
You can easily ramp up to 30+in/min with a 1/4"+ cutter.

Making all the cuts in that 36"x36" panel (543 pilot holes and slots - 191 closed shapes) tool 31mins to drill all the holes then 68mins to cut the parts.


-



Here are some preliminary shots of the CF cutouts. I need to recut one of the panels below due to flaws but that's no big deal.
There are still a few pcs left waiting on the router - I forgot them at the shop.

I'll debur the edges over the next couple evenings to ensure a smooth finish.



Without further ado - some teaser shots to whet your pallets:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-1-01.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-1-02.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-1-03.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-1-04.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-1-05.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-1-06.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-1-07.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-1-08.jpg

More pics later.

[DonT-FeaR]

cant wait to see this done man gw

[p0Pe]

beautiful!

[rendermandan]

Just when you think you have the coolest Carbon Fiber case around, Then somebody like you comes around and builds a cooler one. WTF????


Just kidding man, Your doing a great job with this, KEEP IT UP!!!

[Langer]

Apples and Oranges mate... it's a scratch build, and afik it's the only 100% carbon case. Besides Dark Carbon is pure sex, much respect for that.

Here's some more pics:


Test fit w/ fans and LEDs:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-1-09.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-1-10.jpg

This will be the Aquatube mount... I love my router - these babies fit so snugly together its unreal:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-1-11.jpg

Example of the SSD mount - they're being held with some double sided tape for the time being:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-1-13.jpg
Keep in mind the drive bay will be encased with copper - here's a rough preview of the final result:
*click for big*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_drives.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/drives.jpg)

Heres the new pump mount... this is just an alignment test, there will be spacers and foam later:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-1-12.jpg

[jdbnsn]

Dude, this box is going to be gorgeous when it's done. I am 100% digging this mod!

[EspoNation]

i love the SSD's and how they are mounted! i think i am in love!

[SXRguyinMA]

:stupid: looks crazy! :bowdown:

[Mach]

The sound you hear is the modding bar being raised. Wow, look awesome! Almost home :up:

[DonT-FeaR]

... not again... the bar is to high already!!!

but hey... as the song play it hard goes...

set the level high then spread your wings and fly..!!!! your flying man...

[The boy 4rm oz]

Absolutely amazing. It is looking so good now, I can't wait to see the copper.

[DonT-FeaR]

i wanna see the copper to :P

[Langer]

Many thanks all of you.
copper is coming soon ;)

Below is a little taste of things to come this evening...
I spent all day yesterday and most of today cutting these babies - at the sacrifice of many a 1/8" end mills.

This is just a teaser - I'll post some more later.

Here are the three different kinds of fins that will line the side of the case, from left to right: end fins x4, middle finsx40, support finsx8
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-2-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-2-02.jpg

Here is all 58 fins (a few extra just in case).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-2-03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-2-04.jpg

Remember that keyboard I was modding a while back... I finally got its finishing piece. This is the bottom of the keyboard.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-2-05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-2-06.jpg

[SXRguyinMA]

I cant imagine how many end mills you went through to cut those. I went through a spiral cutting bit and a ton of cutting wheels to cut out the carbon that I layed up

[Langer]

lol, yeah.

Carbon > Carbide.

I started with the cutter plunged all the way up to the shank then every ~50inches I had to raise the cutting height about 1/16th - to take advantage of a fresh spot. Carbon is tough ****, it'll actually dull a 2 flute 1/8" carbide cutter down to an almost perfectly smooth shaft if you aren't paying attention - or so I learned.

The beauty is that with a sharp cutter you can deburr the edge with your finger nail... it makes a PERFECT cut.

I tried 'high speed stainless steel' cutters today... they lasted all about 10inches. Ironically SB Simpson charges $12 for 1/8" carbide cutters and $15 for the ss ones.

[Langer]

You know you're getting too complicated with your design when your 'test fit' takes you an hour to setup...

More teasing below:

This was just a 'quick' mock-up using coat hangers to hold the pins in alignment. The final setup will have additional support below the 'pretty bottom plate' that the fins are slotted into. There will be a piece cut from 8.5mm thick carbon plate in the exact same cutout pattern as the 'pretty bottom plate' that will offer more support for the fins and also more bottom stability.

Enough chit chat... here are the pics:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-2-07.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-2-08.jpg
There are 3 different types of fins that will be positioned in specific places in final construction.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-2-09.jpg
You can see the random order - this was done just to make sure all the fins fir properly... oddly enough a few needed some filing.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-2-10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-2-11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Prometheus-Carbon-Cutouts-2-12.jpg

Normally I wouldn't share this stage but I've been hounded for more pictures on most of my worklogs for this project. Of course the fins will all be cleaned, filed, polished, and spaced parallel (and illuminated!) when all's said and done... but that comes later.

Tune in soon for more. ;)

[Langer]

I thought that I should post some updated sketches showing the final outcome - more or less:
Exploded:
*click for big - 2000x1600*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-concepts-R7A.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-concepts-R7A.jpg)

Assembled:
*click for big - 2000x1600*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/th_prometheus-concepts-R7B.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-concepts-R7B.jpg)

[msmrx57]

You know you're getting too complicated with your design when your 'test fit' takes you an hour to setup...

I don't know if I would say that. But gawd this is going to be pure awesome. :banana: Looking forward to seeing the copper added.

[The boy 4rm oz]

No pics :(, gotta wait until I get home from uni ;) lol.

[EspoNation]

Dude it looks amazing. That is odd though that even though every fin was cut the same that some need that filing. it happens though everything is not always the same. Cant wait to see the case actually nestled in there. It is going to look hotttt!

[DonT-FeaR]

/\ enough said...

[The boy 4rm oz]

Dude, you are a mod god.

[Langer]

Teaser pics:

EMI shielding that was actually made for shielding the U.S. Presidential helicopter. The sheet in the images below is some of the remaining cutouts - the rest of it is inside the 'dashboard' protecting the radios and other instruments.
I will be using some of the 'scrap pieces' to shield my sound card, SSDs, and my ZenHead portable amp (lol).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/nickel-carbon-03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/nickel-carbon-02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/nickel-carbon-01.jpg

Excuse the crappy images, my point and shoot isn't good in... well... any light.

[SXRguyinMA]

yummy

[p0Pe]

looks awsome dude!

maybe the reason it needed filling was that the bits were worn down?

anywhooo, cant wait to see it more asembled!

[DonT-FeaR]

... where the hell did you get that :)

[Langer]

Hey guys. I'm a member of bar-none the most over-the-top watercooling forums on the planet. RealRedRaider.com
Like a geeky Jehovah's Witness I'm here to conscript.

For the past several months myself and about 200 of the top minds in watercooling from around the globe have been posting discussing and sharing our knowledge. I've learned so much from the few over there - it's unreal.
My intention is not to pull anyone away form this great community here at TBCS, I'm just inviting you all to come and check it out, (admittedly I do have a darker purpose but I'll get to that below)

The time has now come to branch out and seek new posters.
We are gearing ourselves to be the best 1-stop shop for watercooling on the web.

I cannot express to you all enough to what an extreme degree the enthusiasts over at RRR take the hobby of watercooling. No-where else is there a community of specialist so keen to help and share, (and of course give each other a hard time along the way).


We've decided to hold a recruitment competition - one that I plan on winning =). The one to pull in the most recruits is set to win a $100 gift card for www.sidewindercomputers.com


Check it out, sign up, start posting and tell them LANGER sent you:
RealRedRaider (http://tinyurl.com/rrrrecruit)

[The boy 4rm oz]

Gonna check it out now mate, I have heard a few good things about that forum and it's always to get more info on W/C.

[p0Pe]

well... i planned on signing up anywhoo so why not use it for your advantage:P you can always send 50% of that gift card to me;P

[The boy 4rm oz]

No fair, I want some gift card lovin lol.

[p0Pe]

you can have the other 50% :P? deal:D

[The boy 4rm oz]

Sounds good to me haha.

[Mark_Hardware]

Already a member, so sorry, can't help ya on that one

[Langer]

My portable headphone amp has arrived. It's a Decware ZenHead (http://www.decware.com/newsite/zenhead.htm) kit.

I can't wait to get this baby put together... I hope to make my own carbon case for it this week.

Here it is... sort-of
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/Grado/Decware-ZenHead-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/Grado/Decware-ZenHead-02.jpg

If you'll excuse me I have a date with my soldering iron.


[later that day]
Progress + Caveat:

First the Progress
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/Grado/Decware-ZenHead-03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/Grado/Decware-ZenHead-04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/Grado/Decware-ZenHead-05.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/Grado/Decware-ZenHead-06.jpg

The the Caveat:
Bloody Decware forgot to pack 3x10k resistors!
Ahhh, but as chance has it I have a collection of resistors.
However chance is a real son-of-a-gun - my 10k drawer is empty.
Message sent to Decware requesting expedited replacements - but I'll just take a trip to the hobby shop tomorrow.

[DonT-FeaR]

ahh... looks cool... bl with the resistors...

one of the kits from school did that

but just went to the draw :P

[The boy 4rm oz]

Nice soldering mate. How much does one of those kits cost? I may get one to plug into my sound card, ultimate headphone goodness lol. Then when I get my Seinhesser HD800 canns (when I have a space 2Klol, yeah right) it will sound insane.

*EDIT*
Just had a look at the link properly, an introductory price of $295 is pretty good considering stuff like that usually costs around $1,000AUD lol. The only downside for me is the fact that it uses a 9v battery instead of mains power.

[Langer]

DC power has it's advantages though - no AC squeal at high volumes (something very hard to get rid out in low-mid range gear). The kit is only $135, and the PCB can be had for only $25 - considering it's currently ranked 7th best portable amp in the world (according to Head-Fi) the price is FANTASTIC.




I got my package from Sidewindercomputers.com. I HIGHLY recommend this eTailer - I made this order at about 10pm on a Sunday evening. Gary, the owner, personally responded via email and thanked me. I then amended the order at about 1am, and again Gary immediately responded with the revised quote. Thanks Gary!

I got my Uber Fans!


Four new Revision C models from Delta's AFB line have arrived!

The AFB1212GHE Revision C Grand High Speed is our newest king of 120mm fans. This dc fan motor provides over 240 cubic feet of air out of a traditional design that has been highly refined and tuned by Delta's fan motor team. Comparisons with our other high end Delta parts show it has modest power requirements for its ability to move so much air out of the standard 120x38 millimeter form factor. It does lack the directional blades which we've all come to know as Delta's patented design, which helps airflow move more consistently straight out of the fan housing. However, as noted in its lower decibel rating, it will also lack the high pitched whine that accompanies directional fin fans. The AFB parts can be undervolted slightly more, but apparently cannot be overvolted as much. For power users adjusting the voltages on these parts, it will be a welcome change.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Delta-Fans-04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Delta-Fans-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Delta-Fans-02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Delta-Fans-03.jpg
All 6 fans actually hover.
6 in a row run at 19-21dB at min and 67-71dB on MAX (~1 away).
Even at min setting the row throws over 85CFM at any point (~5cm away).
They have a power spike of ~40W and pull 29.4W at 12V
Which means I need to have 270W of power overhead just to turn on my fans, and another 180W to keep 'em running.

The fan controller - the build quality is nothing to write home about but I'll straighten out the components, clean off the acetone, add new heatsinks, and make a new frame.
I went with this controller because it's the only controller -that I could find- that can offer up-to 45Watts per channel.
Most 120mm case fans will draw no-more than about 2-3W - so a low wattage controller will more than do you.
The Delta Fans I'm using however draw 29.4W w/ an on spike as high at 40W so they need more beef!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/270w-Fan-Controller-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/270w-Fan-Controller-02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/270w-Fan-Controller-03.jpg

Also some arctic silver TIM and TIM remover - some of which will be used in this project... most will go elsewhere.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Arctic-Silver-01.jpg

Lastly a free gift from Gary - this little treat which I rather enjoyed because I happen to love little metal machinist rulers. =)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/Sidewinders-Free-Gift.jpg

[jwood314]

You are going to need some really beefy heat sinks on those TO-220s not to burn up the regulators, when you slow the fan speed down, those regulators will be dumping all of the extra voltage off as heat. I also don't know what the pins are rated for on the connectors coming off of the PCB, might want to look that up.

You are doing an amazing job on this case. I keep coming back to this site almost daily to see if you have updated or added any photos! Thanks for keeping me, and I am sure many other people, on the edge of their seats!

Cheers,
James

[mofo]

You seem quite a capable builder :rolleyes: obviously.
Have you though of building a pwm controller for the fans?
You'll lose alot less watts in heat. but I guess heat isn't a concern behind a set of deltas.

[The boy 4rm oz]

Those fans are insanely powerfull lol. You are going to definitely need to add bigger heatsinks to those regulators.

[Langer]

The fan controller - the build quality is nothing to write home about but I'll straighten out the components, clean off the acetone, add new heatsinks, and make a new frame.
I did it this afternoon actually - heatsinks a la Enzotech for all. They didn't even use any TIM on the stock cheapo painted black aluminum heatsinks.

Like said the build quality is ****ty... but I can always swap out the parts and expand of the existing design using the existing PCB in a worst case scenario... and I was expecting to have to do this when I ordered it TBH. I also tossed around the idea of making a controller if the Lamptron failed. But it seems to be working just fine. I gave it a 'burn in' for a few hours today just to be safe at a few different speeds.

[Langer]

Considering that my new fans frighten me, it occurred to me that someone might get hurt.

So I decided to add redundant safety protocols, just in case:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-redundant-safety.jpg

[SXRguyinMA]

lol nice

[Langer]

UPDATE:

Today was an intimate day between myself and my scroll-saw. =)

I started making some carbon accents from .8mm sheet - I had a few of these sheets left over from an earlier project. Their intended purpose was the outer shell of the Acer Ferrari series laptop ;).

I popped out the stainless steel - and cut out a replacement on my scroll saw:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-carbon-accents-01.jpg

I made some more carbon covers for the I/O and the RAM.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-carbon-accents-02.jpg

And another for the RAID card, because it's PCB was green:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-carbon-accents-03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-carbon-accents-04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-carbon-accents-05.jpg

I also covered the ATX plug with a little cover - because I wont be needing it:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-carbon-accents-06.jpg

A little overview:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-carbon-accents-07.jpg

I made little circles for all the fan motors as well, but I forgot to take pics. I'll take some with next update.

Tune in soon for more.
-Jesse

[SXRguyinMA]

looks amazing! I've got some spare carbon cloth left...I thik I may just resin up a single sheet and try that...looks great! +rep

oh, what kind of blade did you use? and how long did it last?

[Langer]

Sheet metal snips, (http://www.zenithair.com/kit/tools/snips.jpg) followed by lots of filing.

On the scroll say I just used whatever blade was on it when I arrived. This stuff is really thin, it cuts easily

[SXRguyinMA]

I'll give that a shot. I know the fabric is easy to cut with sharp scissors. thanks!

:EDIT: have yer 2nd lt green rep bar my friend :)

[Langer]

Here are some slightly better pics now that the sun is out.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-carbon-accents-08.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-carbon-accents-09.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-carbon-accents-10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-carbon-accents-11.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-carbon-accents-12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-carbon-accents-13.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-carbon-accents-17.jpg

The Pico's rad - push pull Kama Kaze fans (great 40mm fans, nearly silent)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-carbon-accents-15.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-carbon-accents-16.jpg


=)

-Jesse

[EspoNation]

pure hottness! love it!

[SXRguyinMA]

:stupid:

[Langer]

I decided to add HDD Activity Indicators to the 'RAID Box', 1 per drive. =)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-hdd-led-01.jpg

I also added an LED that will just be on all the time to add a bit of internal p'zaz.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-hdd-led-02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-hdd-led-03.jpg

More soon

- Jesse

[dead4life]

Im not entirely sure on what word describes that mountain of toned carbon fiber and copper...

+rep


5 minutes later and I still cant stop staring at these.. its..

[Langer]

Thanks a lot mate... and if that's the case, you'd better pull up a chair:

JUST A TEASER:

Anyone who has ever sleeved an ATX plug knows its a pain in the ass...when you have a half inch of wire to work with it becomes a painful... when you then have to cut, crimp and solder the pins onto the little stumps it elevates maddening... if not enough - getting the ATX plug onto that mess could drive a man suicidal... and don't even get me started on the soldering end.

Suffice to say - won't be doing this again with a ribbon cable!!! It made the process about a million times more difficult.




The ribbon cable will be coated in black rubber so as to keep things perdy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-atx-power-2-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-atx-power-2-06.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-atx-power-2-02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-atx-power-2-04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-atx-power-2-03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-atx-power-2-05.jpg


More soon. I need to run the 12V power and make the ATX power black, amung other things.


Tune in tomorrow kids - same bat time; same bat channel!

[rendermandan]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-carbon-accents-16.jpg


Um, Hey man great work so far. But I do have a question. It looks like you put a rivet directly into the radiator. Is there something there I'm not seeing?

[Langer]

Factory rivet. I just used VHB tape to hold the power distribution in place.

Keen eye though, points for that.

[EspoNation]

langer it is really looking awesome! Last night I was laying in bed, thinking about this build and I had a brainstorm! Then I woke up and saw that you got the wires successfully soldered to the board. My idea was to make a 90 adapter for the 24 pin plug so it would come of the board to the side. But I must say that you do an amazing soldering job! I like the HDD activity LEDs, I was really wondering how you were going to wire them up. just using the mobo's activity plug, or is there one on the raid card? Awesome job man, so happy you came back to the mod!

[rendermandan]

Factory rivet. I just used VHB tape to hold the power distribution in place.

Keen eye though, points for that.

Ah, ok, I figured you would not have done that yourself. LOL

[Langer]

Espo - Check out markkleb's (aka MKmods) work - he's the pioneer of the soldered ATX power trick.


Here are some better images of the ATX wire - still without a black rubber coating. I tried to get pics of the solder joints but it'll have to wait until I next remove the motherboard.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-atx-power-2-07.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-atx-power-2-08.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-atx-power-2-09.jpg

This wire probally took me 5-6hours to fabricate... and another 45mins or so to solder it in place.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-atx-power-2-10.jpg

The sun was out, so I did a fit test today. I'm pleased, I hope you will be as well:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-fit-test-01.jpg

Here's the Pico-ITX w/ it's 40mm rad hanging below via VHB tape:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-fit-test-02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-fit-test-03.jpg

Power source for the 40mm fans on the rear chassis wall, and the LED on the rear of the RAID card:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-fit-test-04.jpg

Note the SATA port location... right smack in the way of the watercooling ports - I'll have to flip this block 180degrees
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-fit-test-05.jpg

I'll leave you with this for now:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-fit-test-06.jpg
More proper updates later. I'm going to do a little experimenting with the Ethernet port -among other things- this evening

[p0Pe]

one of the things i respect the most is the fact that you have taken this thing apart, and then put it all back together just to take it apart again more times than i remember...

i like this build, and looks foreward to the day i can see it finished:)

[Langer]

Thanks man. It's only a few weeks from completion now.

Every time it goes together I learn something new. I tried estimating my sizing in the beginning - the pcs worked but I demand higher tolerances.

[SXRguyinMA]

this thing is gorgeous, I cant wait to see it done!!

[Langer]

Soon... soon.



So I FINALLY received by two Copper AquaComputer AquaTube reservoirs today...

These are MAGNIFICENT - they weight a tonne but they are so sexy. Lots of respect for AquaComputer!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-copper-aquatube-01.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-copper-aquatube-02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-copper-aquatube-03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-copper-aquatube-04.jpg

[SXRguyinMA]

tasty

[OvRiDe]

Simply Amazing. Love your work! Can't wait to see the final glamor shots.

[GTI]

i love this build. its kinda "sad" that it takes so longe to see it be finished hehe because i wanna see it done now.. been drooling over this project a long time now, you du have skills when it comes to build. rep to you

[Langer]

Many thanks gentlemen. Completion will be soon upon us. =)

This is far from the prettiest thing I ever put together - but it gets the point across and I did it very quickly.
I crudely added in some of the parts. Including a very rough idea of the final reservoir locations:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-mockup-sketch-01.jpg

Here are the latest iteration of the reservoir mounts - it took about 5hours of measuring and remeasuring to be certain that they are level with one another. I don't want 2kilos of copper throwing off the visual balance.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/ResMounts-01.png

The "right" res will hang from the PSU area in the front and the back will mount to the fan - it's mounted so that it flows straight into the mosfet block. I'll need 4 spacers at the back to keep the reservoir fronts flush with one another.

The "left res fits into the slots on the hdd bay cover plate (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v60/Langer/PrometheusCu/prometheus-explination-03.png).

More soon.

[SXRguyinMA]

:bowdown:

[The boy 4rm oz]

I have only been off the forums for about a week now but I can't believe your progress. Everything is looking simply amazing. Those reservoirs are nice, have they been pre coated with a copper finish? You wouldn't want them to tarnish.

[Langer]

The Boy 4rm Oz - Thanks a lot man, as always. The reservoirs are solid copper - and they weigh 1.9kilos each. I'm going to polish them then coat them in Varathane.

[jdbnsn]

This is one phenomenal build bro, just excellent design and methodical detailing. Great job!

[Oneslowz28]

This build keeps getting better and better. Keep up the good work!

[Langer]

Thank your both very much. As always - much appreciated.

So; I made a 'little' spreadsheet this evening.
It's a complete itemized list of every part and component in Prometheus - it's price, retailer, SKU, etc.

It turns out that Prometheus consists of 227 different parts (meaning duplicate parts are not counted).

This composes a total of *1413 individual pieces (not including the molex pins 1642 pieces if you count the pins.)

The total MSRP value of this project is a fair bit higher than I had expected actually... My heart jumped a couple beats when I totaled the bottom line.

Turns out I'm bat sh*t crazy afterall.

*edit 1413 individual pieces not including pins. I miscalculated.

[The boy 4rm oz]

OMFG, that is an insane amount of parts lol, still, well worth it IMO lol.

Damn, 1.9Kg each for the reservoirs, that's insane lol.