TBCS, You helped save my brothers life!

[NightrainSrt4]

I just wanted to say thank you to the community here at TBCS. As some of you may know I don't live with my brothers and getting contact with them has been extremely tough and frustrating. But about a year ago some kind folks here at TBCS encouraged me to keep trying to help out my brothers, or at the very least the ones who accepted my help.

About three weeks ago one of my brothers finally reached out and asked for my help, to get him out of that house and away from my abusive father. Of course I reached out and helped him, and he has been living down in Mass ever since.

Friday night my dad snapped and tried to kill everyone who was at the house up there. He went after my other brother and my mother. They both were hospitalized with multiple stab wounds all over their chest and back. My mother's lung was punctured, and still is in the hospital trying to recover. But it looks like they will be okay in time. My father's bail is on monday though and apparently his mother is going to try and bail him out. Which is a horrible thing, as my father made it clear that he already just gave up his life, so if he gets bail will go back and try to kill the rest of us, as he has nothing to live for now. So let's hope he doesn't make bail.

But, nonetheless, thank you TBCS community (and especially CrazyB). So long ago you gave me the strength to keep trying with my family right when i was about to give up on them, and because I didn't my brothers life is saved.

Thank you so very much. I know this is all personal stuff, usually not on here, but I really needed to say thank you right now. And I know you will all put your hopes, and prayers if you are religious, out to my family, so I want to thank you again ahead of time.



Here is a link to the news report for those interested: http://www.wmur.com/news/17519610/detail.html

[Omega]

All I can say is now that you've helped them, if I was in your position, I would take it upon myself to protect them. Buy a shotgun, get a restraining order, whatever you can (although a shotgun is a good idea anyways). I know he's family (your dad) but there are certain circumstances (I would count trying to murder your family) when you need to disregard that and do what's best for everybody as a whole.


All I can say is I hope your mother and brother get better and your dad gets the punishment he deserves.

[XcOM]

your selcome dude,

im sorry to hear about what happened mate, but this community is all about helping each other, i agree with omega about getting some form of protection, he maybe family but there is a point where the saftey of the rest of the family takes presedence.

im glad there is something good comming out of this, you smoothing things over with your bro.

Good luck in the future.

XcOM

[xRyokenx]

My dad is also abusive but I am not sure whether or not he would do something that nuts... you never know though.

I also hope that he does not make bail and I hope your mother and other brother do not have any permanent disabilities from the attack (such as only being able to use one lung, etc.). Good luck dude.

[NightrainSrt4]

Thanks guys. The support helps quite a lot.

Not sure I can get a gun or anything, but I am well equipped to defend myself. I can't do a whole lot to "protect" them, as I live a couple hundred miles away, but I can give them my support. I did go see them yesterday and helped as best I could though. I only hope they get better.

Apparently after talking to my mother, he tried to kill himself afterward, but all he could manage was a little nick on his neck with the knife. The abusive coward was to cowardly to take his own life after he thought he took two others (They would have died but one neighbor saved them. I will have to give him his my thanks. I am disappointed though as apparently two other apartments right there closed their doors when my mother and brother ran out of the house bleeding everywhere screaming. But society is so afraid and closed off from one another at this point it doesn't surprise me).

[OvRiDe]

All I can say is I am so sorry to hear when something like this happens. Your family will be in my prayers. I have heard similar situations, and we seem to get disassociated, until it happens to one of our own. This is a terrible ordeal and your father definitely needs to be institutionalized, whether it by prison or a mental institution. If there is any justice in the world left, he will NOT make bail. He has shown that he is a danger to others and himself. Hang in there, be there for your Mom and brothers, and let us know if there is anything we can do.

My words cannot express how saddened I feel for family, but I have to believe that something good has got to come out of such a horrible situation. Hopefully it will be a stronger family between you, your mother, and your brothers.

Hang in there...

Curtis

[moon111]

That's seriously a messed up situation which must be tremendously difficult to deal with. One thing is for certain, you're obviously a strong person to be handling it so well. If this is a foundation of your character, there's no telling what you can build upon it.

[Luke122]

I'm glad that you were able to reach out to them in time, and very thankful that everyone is ok.

Prayers are going out for you and your family tonight. :)

[Ichbin]

Hey man, I know that abusive people in general can be a very tough thing to deal with. I'm glad that everything is turning out to be on the more positive scale of things.

We're all friends here mate! We're more then happy to lend a helping hand!

[BerticusPryme]

In all honesty I am deeply sorry for what happened to you and you family over the years and what has came down to. If you mother and brother are anything at all like you they will persevere. Keep your head up everything will be ok. As far as your father getting bail if they are in the hospital they are in about the safest spot to be. Your brother and you on the otherhand I would like others have said make sure you have a form of protection and if possible find a new place of residence with a friend or someone else. If you need anything at all don't hesitate to ask. The family here will help wherever we can and if you are ever near north Alabama I have 2 couches for you and your brother.

[The boy 4rm oz]

I am very sorry about the situation. I know how hard this type of situation can be. I have personally helped my friend through a similar situation. It is hard and there will be tears but I am glad you had the courage to reach out and help your loved ones.

[crenn]

Can I recommend something non-lethal, taser or pepper-spray perhaps?

As for the situation, when your mother and other brother are discharged from hospital, you might want to suggest to them they move as soon as possible.

[xRyokenx]

Can I recommend something non-lethal, taser or pepper-spray perhaps?

I believe they also sell rock salt shells for shotguns. I am not sure whether or not they are lethal at very close range but I can imagine that salt hurts like hell.

[The boy 4rm oz]

I believe they also sell rock salt shells for shotguns. I am not sure whether or not they are lethal at very close range but I can imagine that salt hurts like hell.

At very close range and aimed at the right spot they could still kill. The idea of the shotgun to to pummel the target to death. Any object it shoots can be lethal.

[crenn]

Unless it shoots beanbags....

[The boy 4rm oz]

Beanbags can still be lethal. Hit someone in the temple and they will never get up again.

[Xpirate]

They should definitely hide somewhere and not return to the house if he gets bail.

I would not use non-lethal anything to try and stop him. In my experience, dishing out non-lethal pain only makes someone like that more brutal when they finally get you. The best thing to do is hide if you are uncomfortable protecting yourself with your own deadly force.

[The boy 4rm oz]

Xpirate is right, hurting them only makes them angrier.

[NightrainSrt4]

Thanks guys.

The beanbag comments literally were the first thing I've laughed about since Friday. Just picturing someone getting pummeled with bean bags is quite the cause for laughter. "Oh noes, bEaNbAgS!! ... *takes one to the temple* ffftink ... out" lmfao.

I'm going to try and get them to move somewhere else. I think my mother will be reluctant because the apartment they have is like based on her income, so its affordable, and she works at the hospital there, but I am going to try nonetheless.

I don't think I have to worry too much at the moment, as he doesn't know where I live. But... he has tracked my mom down before when they moved away like 8 years ago. He has a way with those sneaky type of things. Have to see what happens with bail I guess.

[FuzzyPlushroom]

Wow, that's friggin' terrible. Praying here that your mum doesn't end up bailing him out after all... if he's locked up it'll give her and your brother more time to find somewhere else to live.

I'm actually not too far from there - about 15 minutes from the Mass. border, at the other end of the state - so if they can get down here, they could probably stay for a few nights until they found other accommodations. Assuming your father isn't likely to follow, that is... I'm not a big fan of angry men with knives.

[Xtrykr]

Geez, that is horrific, I'm glad you got one of your brother's safe and hopefully your other brother and mother will be able to find a place far far away from you father. If anything, it is nice that the family without your father is going to be tighter than ever, and with your leadership, maybe it will pave way for a new life for your whole family.

[killergamer]

If I could I would suggest a safe haven in the city your family lives in it should cost what it cost at the apartments and its safe (usaly they can get the cops there in a matter of a few mins ares is a few blocks away from the police station.) This would be your best bet I would look into it for them. Also she needs to get a restrain order against him to keep him away from your family if she even that he is around she can call the cops for a reason and she will have help. Another suggestion is that she moves to another city and use a safe haven there. Any ways I wish the best of luck to you and your mom and brother.

[Durrthock]

Holy **** this is in berlin, I live in littleton..... I didn't hear anything about this.

[crenn]

Wait... there is a Berlin in the US?!

[The boy 4rm oz]

The invasion has begun lol.

[DonT-FeaR]

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=KXStaFu8RFU


aim for the chest and they WILL NOT get up for a while..

then ya run like sh*t

[NightrainSrt4]

Thanks guys.

To clarify, its not my mother who wants to bail him out, but my father's mother. She's apparently just as psycho. I understand the whole mother/son bond, but if your son tries to murder 2 people, and was calling/wanting for more, prob not the best person to try to get bail money for. Ya DUI or something...but attempted murder is quite out of the bounds of just making a stupid mistake.

And thank you for all the offers of hospitality. Both myself and my aunts down here in Mass have plenty of space, its just on my mother to take the offer. She's still in the hospital trying to recover, so that's first. I guess the bleeding into her lungs might have been a bit worse then they though, as they said she would prob be out yesterday, but as of then they thought it would be for much longer.

[The boy 4rm oz]

I hope they make a speedy recovery.

[NightrainSrt4]

I couldn't get any information on what happened to my father yesterday, but Ohh how I love my internets.

Bail Hearing (http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Berlin+man+claims+stabbing+o f+wife%2C+son+was+accidental&articleId=eb90fc18-0f24-4f46-9275-d369d6f2ba55)


Yay, for $100,000 bail. But that doesn't help much if his mother can get her house up for collateral like she said she wanted to.

The stab in his neck the article mentions is when he tried to "kill himself", and all he could do was a slight nick before chickening out.

Got to love his excuse, "an accident"... The paper counted 11, 11, stab wounds, and he is still trying to say it was all an accident.

Thing that frustrates me is that at the end it says that he has to stay away from the other kids, but I'm not included because I don't live in the home. Good thing I have a pre-existing restraining order, though if he gets out thats not going to help. But as all modders do, I've got knives and swords and saws galore all here. :smoker:

If you can't tell, I'm trying to be stronger than I really am right now ;)

[Airbozo]

...

If you can't tell, I'm trying to be stronger than I really am right now ;)

We can tell, and you are holding up extremely well given the circumstances. Like it or not you ARE the man of the house now (even away from the house) and if you ever need to talk or vent, let us know. Sometimes all you need to figure things out is some third party disconnected from the situation to talk with. I am thinking strong thoughts your way and hope he does not make bail. If you have any sort of relationship with your paternal grandmother, contact her and express your fears about her bailing him out.

tt

[xRyokenx]

This is making me nervous about my father... he is also an abusive ass****. I also can see a trend of problems that his entire side of the family has (and that he has passed onto my brothers and I). I am not entirely sure he would do something but you never know, as he has been abusive to all of us (my mother, brothers, and I). Damn dilemmas... ah well. [/Somewhat OT]

I hope his mother cannot make bail. Society does not need someone that destructive and violent to be on the loose. And I agree with Airbozo, you are doing exceptionally well considering the circumstances.

[Xpirate]

I also can see a trend of problems that his entire side of the family has (and that he has passed onto my brothers and I).

I was fortunate that my no one in my family was like that. If my old man knew he was way too angry to spank us without letting the rage intensify the blow, he would not do it. But when he settled down, we would get our punishment.

Now that I am a dad, I understand that the kid requires methods of punishment to stop her from doing stuff that she should not do. I truly wish that she would just do as she's told, but that doesn't always happen.

If you think that you may continue your father's ways with your own kids, just remember to keep yourself from spanking when you're really angry. That's the only advice I can give.

[xRyokenx]

If you think that you may continue your father's ways with your own kids, just remember to keep yourself from spanking when you're really angry. That's the only advice I can give.

I refuse to be him. He has the potential to be a really great guy but he does not seem to know he has a problem. I am in therapy and whatnot right now so that I can break this chain of suck. I will most likely not have kids if I feel that I am not up to the challenge... but if I decide to, I will take parenting classes and all of that first to make sure that I am as ready as I can be.

[Tech-Daddy]

Just remember this:
Never punish a child to discipline them.

"discipline" - The root word is disciple, which means "to teach".

As others have said, do not punish out of anger. Sometimes you have to immediately enforce a bad decision that your shild has made, and you ahve to alter the behavior now. Perfect example, my daughter ran into a McDonalds parking lot, from behind an obscured exit, blind to oncoming traffic. I still hear the car brakes, and see the bumper and grill dipping down as the brakes were jammed on. I still see my daughter happily running away from me thinking it is all some sort of game. It was a night mare that I still have not fully shaken.

Guess what.... she was re-educated immediately upon me catching her at the car, and she was lectured all the way home. She has not done it again, and will not leave my side when we are in a parking lot. I'd say the alteration worked....

After reading this thread.... I am sitting here shaking and almost crying. Reminds me of a line from Parenthood, by (believe it or not) Keneau Reeves:
"Ya know.... you need a license to hunt, you need a license to drive, you need a license to have a dog!... But they'll let any butt reamin' asshole be a father.."

It hurts me, from a fathers perspective, that a person can be so mentally unstable to think that abuse is the norm and is acceptable. It slays me because I know it hurts you, and it hurts your brother.... to not have the protection from your father (like you should be expecting) but are instead seeking protection from him... the person who is supposed to be protecting you.

It kills me that this "man" who got married and had kids.... chooses to lie about what happened.

I am sorry, and my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. Nobody should have to endure the pain that you are all being put through.
-=TD

[NightrainSrt4]

Thanks TD and others. It really helps. I think my mom is still in the hospital recovering, but last thing I heard was that she was getting better. I have to call my aunt because they said there was some new news, but not sure what they meant.

I just had my appointment with my counselor, and that seemed to help. Don't think I really dove into anything I haven't said to anyone else, as I've pretty much been letting it all out to anyone with functioning ears, but it was good to talk to another person and know they support me.

I'm still confused a bit though, as on the one hand I am sad and such about what happened. And on the other hand I have this feeling inside of like anger and frustration of I told you so. As a kid, neither my mother nor my brothers ever believed me when he would threaten to kill me and the family. No one would give me any trust or belief. And now that he snapped like he always said he would, I feel like, ughghh why didn't anyone ever believe me. I was branded a liar and that my aunt put all those thoughts in my head that it never happened. But I just have to remember it was all his manipulation, that most of what they have said and still say in some instances is what he has forced them to believe over the years. Just frustrating I guess. I don't know.

[Tech-Daddy]

I have someone close to me that came from an abusive relationship. When you live with it long enough, your coping mechanism is to pretend it does not exist. It takes strength of will and character to admit that there is something wrong, and to leave it knowing that the pain may pursue you, and possibly hurt you more. For a spouse, it is exponentially harder as the vows you took (if you took them seriously) can come into effect and apply to your decisions.

I'm not saying it is right, just or easy. It's not. It is what it is, and you can only do what you can do, and never... ever... give up. Because once your eyes open to the realization that this person is abusive and getting worse, it is fear that will keep a beaten person in line. If yo uare strong enough, you can break free. But it is a frightening journey that many people are too afraid to make.

Afraid to stay, more afraid to leave. Constant fear.... :(
I am proud of you for what you have done. Have you spoken to your brother that you got out? How is he holding up?

[NightrainSrt4]

Hmm...Clicked the button once and it double posted. Usually that happens when the page hesitates so you hit it another time, but nope....


Anyway, so there isn't a wasted post, my Aunt and Brother are going up there again on Saturday. I chose not to, at least at the moment, as I have to get back into my classes and get my work done. And its hard enough to go see her like that once, nonetheless another time, regardless of what state she's in.

[NightrainSrt4]

He seems okay, although he's always been quiet so its a bit tough trying to get to what he is really feeling.

He took it all really hard, as it happened just two weeks after I got him out of there. He put a lot of blame on himself, but I think I helped him out with that and had him realize that there wouldn't have been anything he could do. Even if he was there and did manage to fight back and/or even kill him, he would either be dead or at the very least in the hospital along with them. So I think he understands its not his fault and he couldn't have done anything to help.

Him and my cousin are going to come up tomorrow, so I'm sure there will be plenty of talking and we will go out and do stuff. Idk, maybe go check out the museum of science here in Boston or something. That always peaks our interests, though the parents always look at us weird as I believe most people think it is a place for just kids to go, but I always learn something new there lol. Hence my year pass 8). (gotta love the engineering and math rooms. Building cars and whatnot).

On another note, I guess my mom is starting to regain her strength, and they think her lung will get better. My brother told me that she is doing FAR better, at least compared to last Saturday, so that is good news.

[NightrainSrt4]

Well a little frustrated. After talking to my brother (the one recovering from the stab wounds) apparently my dad had his pretrial hearing crap.

Somehow he talked his way into a lower bail. Couldn't tell if he said they lowered it to 25k, or lowered it by 25k, either way, it makes it easier for him to get out.

Also, because my other brother(not the one i got out of there. I have 4 lol) wasn't at the house at the time it happened, my dad talked his way into getting him off the list of family members that is protected from him. So legally my dad can go and call him and write to him and everything. He's gonna go get a restraining order, but still.

It makes me frustrated. He's already begun talking his way out of things. Apparently they lowered stuff and loosened his prehearing penalties because he is claiming it was an accident so they have to account for that or some crap. 11 mother freaking stab wounds at least and he is already working his freaking crap to get things lessened. UUUUUUUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

To be honest, if I had the money, I would pay the bail, pay the guards releasing him extra to turn away, and when he walks out into the fresh air let me be the first person he sees and beat the living lkjadflkj out of him right there. Put the fracking chicken in a coma. I could care less about the jail time right now. Hell a year and a half ago I thought i was going to be dead because of my chest, so what do I have to lose? UGHHHHHH

Sorry, I am just really frustrated right now. He has already started to weasel his way out of things. I just wish all the pain and frustrations would end.

[NightrainSrt4]

Can anyone help me find what the penalty is for:

Class A Felony Assault

is in New Hampshire? I can't seem to find it. In Wisconsin the law states that the penalty for it is life imprisonment, so 2 charges of that would be great. I just can't find what New Hampshire law penalty is for that same crime.

Ughhh with all thats going on I wouldn't be surprised if its like freaking 3 years or something.

[xRyokenx]

I think that it is ten years. Look here:

http://www.nac.oshkosh.net/StatesFrames/State_Laws_Frames/New_Hampshire_Laws/body_new_hampshire_laws.html

Google kept pulling crap up for Florida, North Carolina, and crap like that.

[NightrainSrt4]

Thanks. I kept getting crap too. Not sure which version is the newest, but I just pulled up this page.

http://gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/lxii/651/651-mrg.htm

Which states Class A felony max of 15 years. So 15x2= max 30 years. But I dont expect anywhere near that as he's already lowering bail and his restrictions. Ugghhhh, it says that if it was with a gun it would be .... 20 years max. Why does a firearm make it any worse? As these are if the person doesn't die. So shoot someone in the knee, and get max 20 years. Stab someone in the chest repeatedly, collapsing a lung and get max 15. Just seems stupid to me.

Not sure which is newer but I hope it is the one I found as max 30 gives me a bit more hope then max 20. I mean, that's a huge difference.

EDIT: CRAP. I think the one I found is from 1994. UGHGHGHGH
Edit2: Hmm, what I read in your link said that it was for getting the charge annulled or whatever, which you have to have not had another charge/felony for a period of 10 years. Maybe I haven't read all the way down yet.

[Airbozo]

I think that it is ten years. Look here:

http://www.nac.oshkosh.net/StatesFrames/State_Laws_Frames/New_Hampshire_Laws/body_new_hampshire_laws.html

Google kept pulling crap up for Florida, North Carolina, and crap like that.

That link is so far off topic it might be funny if it weren't such a serious issue...


Just don't click the link at the bottom of the page...

[xRyokenx]

@NighttrainSrt4: I used the Find thing to go through everything that had the word "assault" in it.

@Airbozo: Lol ,yeah. In my search it had way off-topic things to do with laws for stuff I won't mention here.

[NightrainSrt4]

Great lmfao. First thing I had to do was go back to the page and click the link at the bottom of the page. Thought it just proved your point of not the right information. Boy was that idea correct and then some lmfao.

[Acey]

Sorry to hear what happened to you and your family. Thou he's your dad, hopefully he don't make the bail either after what he's done. Not being the prayer type of guy, wish you all the best for the future and for your family members to get well soon.

[NightrainSrt4]

Hey guys. Got some more news on what is going on. So yesterday was his pre-trial stuff I guess. The official charges they are charging him with are:

1 Count of Obstruction of Justice - For hiding the phone so they couldn't call 911.

2 Counts of Class A Felony Assault

1 Count Attempted Murder

So apparently he's getting slapped with the Obstruction and an attempted murder. I heard this from my Aunt, so I assume it is correct. Just confused a bit as 1 count of the assault and one count of attempted murder would be on the same act wouldn't it? Therefore the higher should only be the one applied? Unless they are counting the first stabs as assault then his increase in rage leads to the attempted murder? Just thought you could only be charged with one thing per person per act kind of deal?

Hopefully soon I will be able to get back to modding again once this stuff settles down. I feel so frustrated looking at Project: Nightrain and how I lost a crapton of log pictures that were ready to be posted, when I knocked over my external (which died) when all the stress and crap was going on. I should have been on my next mods already, ehh. The lady has me planning house mods already anywho. Seeing as I made her her spice rack for over the oven, now I've got to make a stand above the sink for the microwave to clear counterspace, a rack above the toilet, and a cool artistic styled bookshelf/cat stairs on the desk I made last year. I'll be sure to get those up in the correct section when the time comes to show you all I've gotten back into the swing of things lol.

[blueonblack]

That will vary from state to state, but in this case if there was a pause between acts of violence, even a minute, then the two could be legally counted as two actions and two separate crimes. Common for the prosecution to bring as many charges as possible against the defendant. That's clearly what they're doing, judging from the obstruction of justice charge for hiding the phone. That's great. If he were in Missouri he would also be charged with at least one count of "armed criminal action", a class A felony which they are somehow able to tack onto any violent crime involving a weapon, on top of the charge for the crime itself. It sounds like he's got a whole heap of trouble on him, and personally I'm glad to hear it.
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[The boy 4rm oz]

I think it gets bumped up from assault to attempted murder depending on the injuries attained.

Keep us posted on how this turns out.

[NightrainSrt4]

Thanks guys. I am happy as well that there are more charges now being added. Anything to help get the prison time up, if only for the added sense of relief for my mom and brothers.

I was beginning to worry about what was going to happen after he started getting lowered bail and gaining allowances on who he can attempt to speak with. He has a way of getting out of anything he's been in so far, and I just hope this time nothing he tries can get him out of it.

[SXRguyinMA]

holy crap how did I miss this? sorry to hear man. I'm in central MA, not sure whereabouts your brother and you are located, but if you need anything that I can help with let me know :D

[Okele]

Question: If he attacked 2 people why is he only getting charged 1 count on each offense? Shouldnt it be 2? Also, Night sorry you guys have to go through with this but at least your mom and brothers have survived.

I've also been waiting for your progress on nighttrain cause we have the same case, Ive just been too lazy(plus lack of work space) to actually mod mine. =P

[NightrainSrt4]

Thanks for the support SXR and Okele. As of right now I do not need anything really, but I am very appreciative to all that have offered. :D

As for just one charge of attempted murder, I think it is because of how his rage increased when he went after my mother. My brothers stab wounds were through the arm and skin on the side of the chest, whereas hers went through the bulk of her body (and through a lung), so I think they looked at hers as being worse, so that one gets attempted murder. But I really do not know. Before he started stabbing he exclaimed to my mother very clearly his motives, albeit split seconds before the stabbings occurred. So I would have thought both would be, but even getting that one tacked on helps a bit I guess.

As for Nightrain, I will try and get to it asap. Trying to get all caught back up and make it through midterms here at college first, among the other apartment projects that need to get done as well. Instead of waiting for me to get around to having time I will say that I went over the etchings another time. Added silver washers to the bolts on the window. Cut out holes on the top for the radiator, and installed a radgrill along with matching washers. Installed a special something on the other side panel that I know some will take as tacky and others will love, depending on style and background. It just matched so perfectly I had to put it there, seeing as how it has been under my bed with no way to be displayed for 2 years. ;). When I get to have some time, I have some more etchings I want to do, I just haven't decided what exactly.

[Crazy Buddhist]

Nightrain,

Man I'm sorry I missed this whole thread whilst I was busy elsewhere. I'm really glad you managed to get your brother out before this happened and have continued talking to him about his guilt feelings.

I would suggest you get your own lawyer to represent yourself at these trial hearings and to start arguing the bail and conditions back up again. You can even print out the original thread where you raised these problems and got support here: It proves there was a problem developing over some time - and that you were aware of it and took action. It should help convince the judge that bail should be set at half a million or more.

I am really glad for you and your family that everyone survived. Hopefully soon your father will be away for a good long period and your family can rebuild, regroup and reform those relationships that he so clearly damaged throughout your upbringing.

Your strength of mind has been evident through your posts in this thread. Bring it to the fore and force the justice system to do it's job.

CrazyB

ps Rock salt shells shot from about ten feet cause a lot of very painful not very deep wounds and immobilize the recipient without ending up with you on a murder charge.