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Viper-Inc
12-08-2005, 12:40 PM
Hello all, i am very new to modding but have a big interest in it.

For my new pc i will be installing everything my self (of coarse)

Now, the problems i am having is with the led lights, multiple fans and neon sticks.

What i don't know is how you connect multiple fans, multiple led lights and neon to the power supply.

Here is what i am going to be installing...

~~::Laser Lights::~~
http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show.php?art_no=neonSUlaserbeam_green

~~::Neon::~~
http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show.php?art_no=neonSUliq_rgb_spir
http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show.php?art_no=neonSUliq_red_spir

~~::Case Feet::~~
http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show.php?art_no=neonSUcasefeet_red

~~::Fans x 5::~~
http://gamedude.com.au/prod_show.php?art_no=coBR8blue

All installing in this case:
http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show.php?art_no=casXGviper_black_red
(this is not the prob. the prob is the installation itself.)


Here is the power supply i will be using:
http://gamedude.com.au/prod_show.php?art_no=psXGvortec600



Now, how would i go about installing those 5 fans and all those lights and neon to that power supply (keeping in mine the motherboard, hdd, dvd/r and dvd/rw are also sharing the power cables from the power supply.

Do i need to buy something else to connect them all to the power supply outlet plugs? Or is there a bit of hard wiring required?

Also: i want to be able to turn the LED (foot lights, laser lights) and neon off and on with a switch (to save power when not using them)



If you could help me with these with either a tutorial or verbal it would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Viper-Inc

adreamtraveler
12-08-2005, 01:16 PM
it looks like all of those products you want to install have a standard 4 pin connector. you should be able to simply plug then all in together into a molex connector from the power supply. it seems like you'll have a lot of cables running around the case with all that stuff lol :p so would be good to get some cable tie downs or something to manage then all

Viper-Inc
12-08-2005, 01:20 PM
ok. but how will i connect them all to the 1 molex connector? is there another adapter plug i need? or what.

Sorry for the n00b questions but i have never worked with lights before (usually when i learn something once or get taught it i remember it, so this is technically my first time dealing with lights)

Malatory
12-08-2005, 01:35 PM
NEON lights dont last that long .. if you can get the XG Red CCFL (Dual sticks) would last longer.

1st light I placed into a machine was a NEON and it only lasted a month.


the Neon or CCFL if you go that way. Try to leave on it own rail (lines out of the PSU). Fans If you need them all on the same rail then try and get it on the same one as the CCFL other wise spreading those around should be just like adding a normal fan.

As for the feet. Make sure your case had the same type of feet or they wont work. Also when taking the small screws out be carefull as they as the heads are not that strong and strip easy. I had to modify a couple of the screw heads to make them work. They Plug in just like anything else so thats not a issue.

Viper-Inc
12-08-2005, 01:38 PM
hmm. ok. is there anywhere online that will show me how to install the lights and fans. etc? prob easier i think.

Also, is there anything on here that will last a while:
http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_list.php?maingroup=CASE%20MOD&secondgroup=NEON%20TUBE

Rankenphile
12-08-2005, 02:29 PM
One thing you may want to consider when doing this is adding a false floor to your case, to hide your wires by running them underneath. Otherwise you're going to have a rat's nest of cables running everywhere.

Malatory
12-08-2005, 08:01 PM
hmm. ok. is there anywhere online that will show me how to install the lights and fans. etc? prob easier i think.

Also, is there anything on here that will last a while:
http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_list.php?maingroup=CASE%20MOD&secondgroup=NEON%20TUBE


this is a review that may or may not get posted on another forum .. Its just has not been edited for Grammer.

http://www.malatorymods.com/sunbeam_feet.htm


Answer to your question.
http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show.php?art_no=neonCOrgb_ultra

http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show.php?art_no=neonSUgreen300

http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show.php?art_no=neonSUred300

those are ones I am guessing .. as it has CCFL

Other might as it looks like they are mixing CCFL and Neon as the same thing

Viper-Inc
12-08-2005, 11:12 PM
Ok, Thanks for the neon tips, greatly appreciated. I might thing of adding something in the case to hide most of the cables,

The power cables to the hardware (dvd/r, dvd/rw, hdd, etc) they can stay as they are only small, but i will try see what i can do with the ribbon cables.

Also, what do i need to get to be able to have the neon and LED lights set up on a switch. so i can turn them off at a switch when i want to save them.

I'll have to look around the net for a tutorial or guide or something for installing the led and lights, but for the meantime, what do i need to be able to have a switch?

All help so far and in future is appreciated guys,
Thanks,
Viper-Inc

digital_exhaust
12-08-2005, 11:38 PM
If you look at the specs on the lighting that you've got on your shopping list you'll see that they come with a switch already mounted on a back plate. These fit in an empty expansion slot. Just take the cover off and screw the plate in and there's your switch... you won't need anything else..

Viper-Inc
12-08-2005, 11:41 PM
ok, thanks for that... Now connecting everything to the 1 switch for easy and lazy man's access. lol.

Is it just a matter of taking all the wires for everything and twisting/joining them together? or is it a bit more complex than that, and is there anywhere that shows how to do it.

digital_exhaust
12-08-2005, 11:58 PM
You can splice the wires into one switch, I don't know if that will effect thier lifespan or not, but you can. I've had a lot of luck with CCFL lighting, and I never turn them off, but if you need a switch and need to have them all wired into one switch then all you can do is splice them all together. You could also use a fan/light bus to control all of them independently. Just my opinion.

Viper-Inc
12-09-2005, 12:23 AM
ok. so basically splitting all the cables so all the red are twisted together, all the black twisted together.. etc etc then just connecting those seperate wires to the switch (like connecting 1 normal light to it just twisting all the others to the single wires to add multiple to the switch)

Is that basically it? I think i am starting to get what you guys mean.

digital_exhaust
12-09-2005, 12:49 AM
Yes.. but only the thinner wires coming out of the molex connector. Not all four.. when you get your light kits you'll see what I mean.. there will be two thin wires coming out of the molex connector connected to your light kits. Splice the red wires together and he black wires together and plug them into the switch and you should be good to go.

Viper-Inc
12-09-2005, 01:32 AM
ok. ill post back when i get everything =). meanwhile i will think of ways for hiding the cables neatly and work on a first mod of some of the old pc's i got lying around (got 5 pc's that have burnt out video cards, that's it. for free. so i can just work on case mods then go from there)

Thanks for all your help guys.
Much appreciated.

adreamtraveler
12-09-2005, 05:53 AM
I'm surprised that no one had mentioned Paul's (Crimson Sky's) Book (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0789731924/qid=1134121179/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-9352381-2496838?s=books&v=glance&n=283155) yet lol....i just got mine from Sky (http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/member.php?u=502) last week, and it has just about everything that you could ever want to know about this stuff, especially about wiring, cable management, and cooling. if you really want to see exactly how each step is done picture by picture, then you should definitely check it out. (why do i feel like i should be earning commission or something? LOL :p ) but seriously just trying to let you know about one of the best resources out there :p

Viper-Inc
12-09-2005, 05:56 AM
ok. thanks for that. That can go on my christmas list :P

Malatory
12-09-2005, 09:50 AM
I'm surprised that no one had mentioned Paul's (Crimson Sky's) Book (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0789731924/qid=1134121179/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-9352381-2496838?s=books&v=glance&n=283155) yet lol....

thats only because I dont know how to Read and my name is not on it :eek:

The Book it worth getting if you can.