need help with home network

[Vecc]

Hello i need help in making home network. I have 2 pc, old kasda KD318-MUI ADSL router and D-Link switch so i need to connect 2 pc so that they can share internet connection i managed to make lan but they cant be in the internet in the same time help please!!!!:D
oh yea both pc-s running win xp

[Bopher]

If the computers are close enough to the router get rid of the switch. From what I saw on the internet for that ADSL router it has 4 ports to connect with. That should get you going.

[Vecc]

it wont i try`d it it needs to put in router mode but i cant do it its ****ed up to go in router properties i need to type 192.168.1.1 but my web browser cant open it

[Bopher]

Have you tried hooking a computer up through the USB and trying the ip that way? And I know you've probably already thought of this but is the router set to the factory ip?

[Vecc]

i am just trying to connect pc-s with 2 utp cables to kasda but i dont think that this will work

[Vecc]

and as i thought it didnt work omg i dont know what to do anymore anyone have suggestion

[Bopher]

I've got nothing else. If I think of something I'll let you know. I'm assuming that the cables you're using work for the computers from the switch? If those work fine at the switch and not here I can't say bad cables. hmm I'll keep thinking of it.

[Vecc]

nope i had configured pc-s and they can now share documents over my network places but cant use web and i tried to make lan server in cod 4 but other pc cant find it not even xfire can find it

[theshoeshineman]

Make sure you have internet connection sharing turned on?

Also check the router and gateway settings, that there isn't anything weird setup in there.

[Vecc]

oh i am noob at pc software i know more about hardware than software where can i find that :D

[theshoeshineman]

I'm not sure how you've got it set up so it depends. You should be able to plug the router and two pc's into the switch.

I would typically set it up like this

Router (plugged into switch)
IP: 192.168.0.254 (or whatever it's default is)

Computer1: (plugged into switch)
IP: 192.168.0.101
Subnetmask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.254

Computer2: (plugged into switch)
IP: 192.168.0.102
Subnetmask: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.0.254

Unless there is something weird set up on the router the router should "rout" the information to each computer. Also it may not be able to cope with multi out connections? What is the brand and model of your switch and router?

[Vecc]

one question how to set router ip?
and what cables to use ruter switch, pc to switch ??
brands are on 1-st post
rep+ for this tutorial
ok that was more than one question :D

[nevermind1534]

You should be able to just use regular CAT5e or CAT6 ethernet cords to connect the router, switch, and computers.

[theshoeshineman]

Yes normal cat5 cables are fine. Do not use "Cross Over cables" (these typically have red boots or are marked as XOVER)

If you have it plugged in like I said you shouldn't have any problems

If you goto Internet Connections - Local Area Connection and select Properties
you should then be able to select a field that says Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)
click on that and then select properties.

Make sure everything in there is set to "Obtain an IP address automatically" and "Obtain an DNS Server address automatically" then close the screens. Windows should then assign it's own address to work with the router.

If you goto start - run and enter in "cmd" to bring up the command prompt.

then type in "ipconfig"

It should list the ip address of your computer and there will be a default gateway address. The default gateway address will be the address of the router.

If you type this gateway address in internet explorer it should come up with a window to enter the username and password of your router. (do a google search to find out what the default username/password of your router is)

You shouldn't need to change anything in there, but I thought I would mention it as various games/torrents may need you to open ports on your router.

[AMD Killa]

:think: What if the router and the switch had the same IP address? I know It's unlikely, but it could happen. Not sure what would happen if the switch was in transparent mode :S

I would cut out the switch if you can, as the router is basically a switch with a WAN interface.

To get more detailed information about your network settings, open a command prompt like theshoeshineman said, and type "ipconfig /all". That should give you a full list of all the details.

[theshoeshineman]

What is the brand and model of your router? and how have you got it all connected up at the moment?

[Vecc]

omg router is kasda kd18-mui and it is connected to my pc by utp cable to mobo!
and i have 2 utp cables and 2 utp patch cables can i connect 2 normal utp cables and one patch cable??

[theshoeshineman]

Do you mean a Kasda KD318mui?
Here is a link: http://www.kasda.com.cn/en/pro/vew.asp?id=336

Switches do not have ip addresses, but AMD Killa was partly right as you do not need to use the switch. This particular router has a built in switch (allowing 5 computers to connect to the internet simaltaneously)

Now for the cables... When you grab a cable and look at the ends are the colours of the 8 wires identical at both ends?

If a couple of the wires are in different positions then it is probably a cross over cable and you won't be able to use it for networking with the router.

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So in short.

Grab 2 utp cables whos 8 coloured wires are identical at both ends.

With one cable plug it into the network port on the motherboard of your first computer and with the other end plug it into the LAN1 port on your router.

With the second cable plug it into the network port of your second computer and plug the other end into LAN2 port of your router.

You should be able to access the net with both computers now.

[Vecc]

omg i tryed that but i cannot do that because it is not in router mode
and there are 4 lan ports on it but 2 are locked for our max-tv television so 2 for pc-s and 2 for max-tv

[AMD Killa]

All residential gateways are in router mode by default. The only way it could be in 'non router' mode is if you changed a setting previously, in which case you need to reverse the process. Maybe all you need to do is make sure DHCP is enabled, and that both PC's have their gateway's set to the router's IP address.

You should also make sure the PC's are in the same workgroup. If you are setting IP addresses manually, make sure they are in the same subnet, and that the IP addresses are the same apart from the last octlet.

[Vecc]

one more question what is windows server is it os like windows xp or just program???

[nevermind1534]

server 2003 is like xp, but more stable. server 2008 is somewhat like Vista. Yes, it is a standalone OS. The server versions of windows used to be released with the professional versions through 2000, until microsoft started using the nt kernel with all versions of windows (including the home editions), so since then, the professional editions and home editions have been released together, and server separately.

[theshoeshineman]

Just to add to what nevermind1534 said. Servers are designed around sharing a centralised compository of informaiton for multiple users.

Security wise it will offer you more flexability as to what you share and to who and it can keep the data in a centralised location (often making backing up easier aswell).

Do you need a server at home... Probbly not, infact it could complicate things and in most cases the users and sharing that come with XP or Vista will be sufficient.

Servers are used in businesses for the above reasons. A lot of bigger businesses will have various departments and divisions and it is a lot easier to maintain the security and sharing of data with servers in these scenarios. For example you might want everyone who works in the accounts department to have access to the accounts database, but you don't want the sales staff or the delivery staff to be able to view this information.

[Vecc]

ok thx guys rep+ to all :D