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LiTHiUM0XiD3
12-05-2008, 03:04 AM
has anybody even tried rolling a compaq presario F700 back to XP?? near impossible...
Compaq/HP released this product with vista... and only vista... no XP drivers... but.. heh i have after 2 hours.. finally accomplished the task... if anybody ever has to work with one of these pieces of.... ye... well lemme know.. its evil..

BerticusPryme
12-05-2008, 04:10 AM
Been there man. I had to do this to an acer laptop and damn did it suck. opened up device manager when i got it installed and all done and there was like 35 ?. fun fun if I can find the website again that I ended up getting all the drivers for i will let you know. you isntalled the little peice of software and then it scanned the hardware and told you what drivers you needed and even downloaded them for you.

LiTHiUM0XiD3
12-05-2008, 04:15 AM
heh brits laptop man.. its evil... heheh but thank god im not stuck on it anymore lolz

Luke122
12-05-2008, 03:35 PM
That Panasonic toughbook I had to roll back from Vista to XP.. ugh.. still have no sound on it. That was the grossest thing ever.. I remember ranting about it like a year ago, and I havent worked on one yet that even comes close.

On the flipside, I did an upgrade from 2000 Pro to XP Home today on an embedded system in a photo kiosk computer.. now it's a touchscreen jukebox for me! Worklog probably to follow sooner or later.

LiTHiUM0XiD3
12-05-2008, 06:47 PM
nice!
heh.. well this thing is running beautifully on XP now... performance... much much better... much cleaner... more solid.... mmmhmmm... its alll good... and hell... b4.. just running a movie in VLC with vista would have the CPU fan goin soo loud you could hear it from the other room.. with the TV on..... now? stress testin it big time... have even covered the fan intake... this puppy barely makes any noise... period.... more proof... the eye candy of vista isnt worth the troubles it causes... :D

Collinstheclown
12-05-2008, 07:00 PM
you isntalled the little peice of software and then it scanned the hardware and told you what drivers you needed and even downloaded them for you.

Driver Guide?
http://scan.driverguide.com/scan.php




-CollinstheClown

LiTHiUM0XiD3
12-05-2008, 07:19 PM
tried that... didnt work out for me.... i had to hunt them all down myself... even edit a few ini/inf files..

FuzzyPlushroom
12-05-2008, 08:01 PM
The IT guy at my school ended up tracking down Packard Bell's XP drivers for the motherboard that came in a HP/Compaq we got. What a pain in the arse.

TheGreatSatan
12-05-2008, 08:18 PM
It was done that way on purpose. They don't want you to go back to XP. After using Vista for so long, I don't get why anyone would want to go back to that dinosaur

LiTHiUM0XiD3
12-05-2008, 08:25 PM
less wasted resources? less bugs? less chance of processor dying from being whipped and beaten like a slave? vista is nice yes... but XP is better for stability and systems with less than 3Gbs of ram..

TheGreatSatan
12-05-2008, 09:14 PM
You need some tweaks. There are tons of videos on YouTube about optimizing Vista. With 1Gig, I'd choose XP, but with anything more it would be way better on Vista. The only reason I haven't changed my main rig to Vista is I don't feel like messing with all the drivers and updates. Soon, though....

LiTHiUM0XiD3
12-05-2008, 09:42 PM
the laptop only has 1GB and its partially shared with video..

FuzzyPlushroom
12-05-2008, 11:13 PM
My main machine has two gigs and the Last of the DX9 Video Cards. Since I like playing games on it, it's got XP.

crenn
12-06-2008, 01:02 PM
I'm not exactly running a crap system and I don't see what the hassle about Vista is.... I've been using it for some time now and I haven't gotten crashes that weren't hardware related (seems I managed to cook my old GPU a touch to cause it to crash under high load).

LiTHiUM0XiD3
12-06-2008, 01:12 PM
prolly cooked it cuz vista was riding it like a 75 yr old hooker.. :P :)

and crenn.. your system makes mine look like a pile of horse ****... thats been spit on by a large group llamas and pissed on by a rabid monkey..
vista is designed to run on your is system
this is meant to be a baseline vista system..
1Gb DDR2 667
AMD Turion X2 1.9Ghz
Nvidia 7000 onboard shared mem... 64Mbs..
not exactly the prize vista system.. no DX10 support...
basicaly ****e...

luciusad2004
12-07-2008, 12:57 AM
That Panasonic toughbook I had to roll back from Vista to XP.. ugh.. still have no sound on it. That was the grossest thing ever.. I remember ranting about it like a year ago, and I havent worked on one yet that even comes close.

On the flipside, I did an upgrade from 2000 Pro to XP Home today on an embedded system in a photo kiosk computer.. now it's a touchscreen jukebox for me! Worklog probably to follow sooner or later.

This intrigues me... were did you get a photo kiosk computer and what are the stats on it.

I love how all the computers you see in stores run on windows, my buddy likes to screw w/ them and try to get them to pop out of their specialized interfaces. He managed to get the application machine at my wal-mart to shutdown or at the very least logout. I've always been very interested by the fact that alot of these machines run windows, I watched our ATM machine update... windows. I'm still wondering if there is wifi in my store and if the systems are hooked up to it. My buddy couldn't find any but it doesn't take much to hide the SSID.
Edit: The point being that, if there's wifi enabled computers running credit card numbers (probably hundreds of thousands a day if not more), should they really be running windows.

Drum Thumper
12-07-2008, 01:48 AM
I'm still wondering if there is wifi in my store and if the systems are hooked up to it. My buddy couldn't find any but it doesn't take much to hide the SSID.

You've got a couple of approaches you can take here to answer this--a bit of wardriving with netstumbler on a laptop if you have the equipment or you could just get one of these (http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/interactive/991e/).

Cracking the SSID is a topic I refuse to get into, per forum rules.

luciusad2004
12-07-2008, 02:16 AM
You've got a couple of approaches you can take here to answer this--a bit of wardriving with netstumbler on a laptop if you have the equipment or you could just get one of these (http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/interactive/991e/).

Cracking the SSID is a topic I refuse to get into, per forum rules.

LoL its not prob, wasn't actually asking so that someone would help me, just proposing the notion that i find it a little bothersome that ATM machines run windows and work on a network that potentially has wifi. I'm sure wal-mart takes precautions but it still seems like it could be a hackers delight.

I know there IS wireless of some sort because our little hand scanners run on it using IP. Wether or not there is 802.11 I'm not sure. But yeah, I'm not actually asking anyone to help me crack the wireless at work.

Still curious about the photo-terminal though.

XcOM
12-07-2008, 01:04 PM
Yes ATM machines run windows but they are secure, they use special programs to process the transactions and are all transmitted on a dedicated line using encryption, and if it wasn't safe the banks wouldn't use it as they are liable to cover any costs due to people hacking them, you the consumer are not allowed to foot the bill.

theshoeshineman
12-08-2008, 01:15 AM
You guys don't know the half of it... I install point-of-sale systems into businesses who's owners bypass us to save a few hundred dollars and get the systems into all sorts of messes.

Because they know they were sneaky, they don't tell you half of the story so you have to "play detective" and try to work out whats happend.