Superfast Windows 98 system??

[TheGreatSatan]

What's the Max specs for a system running Windows 98?? Can I build a dual or Quad system with 3GB of RAM and run 98? I think it'll be my fastest system ever!

So, what's the max it'll support?

[nevermind1534]

I don't think it has any GHz limits like 95, but most newer hardware does not have drivers that support Win9x. Windows 9x does not support dual CPUs, either. Only NT does. So about the best you could get would probably be an Athlon xp or 64 (if you can find a board that has windows 9x drivers).

[XcOM]

not true, windows 98 dosent support dual CPU's, it supports multipul cores, just like windows XP home and vista home only support one CPU but asmenu cores as you like

98 dosen't support more than 2GB of ram, but there is a known problem with installing 98 on a new machine with crap loads of power, some times the kernel has a panic because it finishes processing a command before the OS has worked out what to do next then it gets confused because it has this info but dosen't know what to do with it.

The only way around this is to use Windows 98SE and install the unnoffical service pack for it from msfn

[nevermind1534]

not true, windows 98 dosent support dual CPU's, it supports multipul cores, just like windows XP home and vista home only support one CPU but asmenu cores as you like

Why do they have to do that?

[FuzzyPlushroom]

Why do they have to do that?

Because by Microsoft's thinking, anyone with a dual-CPU machine is probably in their target market for the Professional/Business version of their OS.

[Xpirate]

You will have to partition your hard drive into 137 GB partitions. I recently tried to make Windows 98 work on a lower end "modern" machine with a wireless card. I eventually gave up trying to make it work because it was taking way too long to try and make that beast run the wireless card. So now, it is running pretty slowly with XP.

[nevermind1534]

FAT 32 can support 2 TB if you change some default settings.

[Xpirate]

FAT 32 can support 2 TB if you change some default settings.

I have heard of this being done with Windows ME. I'm not sure if you can with Windows 98.

If you really want a fast system, use a distribution of Linux. My Ubuntu partition runs faster than any Microsoft OS did on the same hardware.

[Drum Thumper]

I have heard of this being done with Windows ME. I'm not sure if you can with Windows 98.

If you really want a fast system, use a distribution of Linux. My Ubuntu partition runs faster than any Microsoft OS did on the same hardware.

Agreed. I've got Ubuntu on an old AMD Duron system, and it works quite fine for personal website hosting (this is the project strapped rig I'm talking aobut).

[XcOM]

i have a 320GB hard drive currently formatted into FAT32, so it can be done, and to format a 2TB drive you need to tell it to use 2K clusters, then it will support it, format will tell you its only 60 odd GB, windows 98 will tell you its 60 odd GB, 98SE will tell you its 137GB, install the 48bit LBA patch and it will support 2TB drives

[TheGreatSatan]

I'd probably just use one of the many 40GB IDE drives I have. Memory and Video max's would be nice to know

[nevermind1534]

AGP. No PCIe support in Win9x

[DaveW]

TGS...what the hell are you planning? :D

-Dave

[XcOM]

im sure the older VIA chipsets with pciX supported 98, if not ME inwhich case its just as simple as editing an INI file.

and memory is 2GB, but rember that problem of things being completed before the OS expects them to? the memory can cause this if its too fast, and 98 wwill be more likely to crash if you have a CRC or read/write failure on 98

[nevermind1534]

http://www.nvidia.com/object/81.98_9x_supported.html

And some people say that ATI PCIe cards work under windows 98.

[TheGreatSatan]

^^A 6800 Ultra would be nice.


TGS...what the hell are you planning? :D

-Dave

Nothing just yet:rolleyes:

[XcOM]

yes a 6800 will work on 98

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win9x_81.98.html

[Durrthock]

I think a decked out 98 system would be pretty sick, You know you need like 500+ fps to play Doom.

[Drum Thumper]

I think a decked out 98 system would be pretty sick, You know you need like 500+ fps to play Doom.

Agreed. 500 FPS + IDSPISPOPD = no screen tear when you walk through walls.

[TheGreatSatan]

So a Single core proc (Max?) 1GB RAM?, and a 6800?

[XcOM]

an AMD athlon 64 series CPU, any speed will work, and any 939 x2 series will work, the early core 2's will work.

2GB of ram will be cool, and a 6800 Ultra will work, i wouldn't try a 7 series nvidia but 6 series is cool.

personally i would use an AMD Athlon 64 x2 5000 with 2GB of DDR2 800 and a Nvidia 6800Ultra, SATA is fine provided the motherboard supports native transparency on the motherboard

[Durrthock]

I find it funny that the only part of you system that wouldn't support new games is the os.

[XcOM]

half the time they would work but the installer won't allow you to install them, its an agreement the devolpers have with M, so just strip out the installer info and remove the OS limit

one note though, i am attempting to overcome a problem with the network, if you install network drivers that use the standard windows NDIS.VXD driver it will encounter a floating point problem if your CPU runs faster than 2.1GHz, i am working on a solution though, MS do have one but you need to prove to them you HAVE to run windows 98, and that XP/Vista just won't work.

[TheGreatSatan]

So here's what I'm thinking.

Athlon X2 4400+
2GB DDR2-800
Nvidia 6800Ultra
40GB IDE primary, 40GB IDE secondary
Windows 98SE or ME or possibly 2000NT

[TheGreatSatan]

Or the system I already have available:

Abit IC7-G
P4 3.2Ghz
2GB DDR400
Radeon X1950 Pro 256MB (AGP)
40GB IDE primary, 40GB IDE secondary
Windows 98SE or ME or possibly 2000NT