The "I'm a nutter" Thread.

[Zephik]

Here's a thought; How do you know that you're not already in something like "the matrix"?

Another one; What if we and our entire universe is simply the product/result of someone's or something's "science experiment". Maybe "God" is just some scientist experimenting in his mothers basement?

Anyone else got any crazy theories? :D

[Spawn-Inc]

can god make a rock so big that he can't lift it?

[Collinstheclown]

Time never started. It has always been and always will be there.

If molecules move faster in heat and slower in cold then would a cup of water heat up if stirred fast enough?

If something is cold enough for the molecules to stop then would that mean that time has stopped for whatever it was you have made cold?




-CollinstheClown

[DonT-FeaR]

what if our earth is a spec or dust on another earth..
and every spec or dust on that earth is an earth..

and that bigger earth was only a spec?

[Oneslowz28]

If molecules move faster in heat and slower in cold then would a cup of water heat up if stirred fast enough?

If something is cold enough for the molecules to stop then would that mean that time has stopped for whatever it was you have made cold?




-CollinstheClown

1. Yes but because of the friction from the resistance of the water to the cups sides and the thing stirring it.

2. Yes. This is called absolute zero and while in theory it is possible. Scientist have yet to produce something that cold.

[billygoat333]

what if our earth is a spec or dust on another earth..
and every spec or dust on that earth is an earth..

and that bigger earth was only a spec?

this always makes my brain hurt thinking about.

and then there are the parallel universes, different dimensions, etc.

enough to make your head spin.

like everytime you have to make a binary decision, reality splits in two, and the one you are in is the choice you made and the other you made the other choice. etc etc. ouch. brain, stop hurting! lol

what if we are part of a biological computer built to calculate a 10 million year program on finding out the question of life, the universe, and everything? (gotta love hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy :P)

[SXRguyinMA]

http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18670&highlight=brain+imploded

[XcOM]

we all see different colours, but are conditioned with the names. for examplw we all see the blue tbcs logo, we all call it blue. but i see what you call yellow, but we both call it blue? anyone understand? or am i nuts?

[nevermind1534]

color blindness?

[Collinstheclown]

we all see different colours, but are conditioned with the names. for examplw we all see the blue tbcs logo, we all call it blue. but i see what you call yellow, but we both call it blue? anyone understand? or am i nuts?

I've been thinking that for years and years now. It's perception. I literally think about it all the time, and everytime it stuns me to think that way. To think that the world may look way different using someone elses eyes.

Then again it might explain why people have such different tastes in color combos. Maybe every human likes the same color combo(lets use black and red since thats mine), but what you see as "black" I might see as "yellow", and what you might see as "red" I might see as "pink".

So if I were to do a "yellow" and "pink" computer, it's possible that it's "black" and "red" to me. Hell, it could be "orange" and "beige" to someone else....

Green grass and blue sky anyone?

:think::neutral::think::dead:




-CollinstheClown

[Oneslowz28]

Heres one. Every law of physics points to the fact that objects tend to slow down and they expand, but the universe is actually speeding up while still expanding.

[xRyokenx]

we all see different colours, but are conditioned with the names. for examplw we all see the blue tbcs logo, we all call it blue. but i see what you call yellow, but we both call it blue? anyone understand? or am i nuts?

I get what you're saying. I've actually thought of this before. Imagine if everyone's favorite color happened to be the same but we all saw it differently? ...or if we all saw the same color but they all ended up being different from each other?

[nevermind1534]

I have though of that, as well

[xRyokenx]

I just remembered that I have also worked out how we do see the same colors... the way our eyes are made. I am very certain that there are variations in how vividly people see various colors.

[DonT-FeaR]

red pill or blue pill...

matrix

[BuzzKillington]

My girlfriend and I have had some weird topics come up in conversations lately.

1) Have you every thought about how barbaric it is for a human to operate on another? Cutting, sewing, sawing, stapling, etc... this also includes plastic surgery. That stuff can be gruesome!

2) Who started your last name. Where along the line did someone without a last name decide... hey, I don't have a last name so I'm gunna create one and pass it onto further generations to come. How did that come to be? When did it become a standard? How did it work its way into the legal system or better yet, when did it work its way into the legal system? Did the old "cowboy and indian" days have legal records?

3) It's strange how most names are names only and have no actual meaning at all. Names are literally nothing but a sound... there's nothing else to them besides what we've grown accustomed to hearing. "Michael." It means nothing yet when you hear it.. you know it's a name. Gleepglop. Also a meaningless sound (at least on earth) yet if we tried to apply it as a name people would think "what the hell?"

[nevermind1534]

2) Who started your last name. Where along the line did someone without a last name decide... hey, I don't have a last name so I'm gunna create one and pass it onto further generations to come. How did that come to be? When did it become a standard? How did it work its way into the legal system or better yet, when did it work its way into the legal system? Did the old "cowboy and indian" days have legal records?

3) It's strange how most names are names only and have no actual meaning at all. Names are literally nothing but a sound... there's nothing else to them besides what we've grown accustomed to hearing. "Michael." It means nothing yet when you hear it.. you know it's a name. Gleepglop. Also a meaningless word (at least on earth) yet if we tried to apply it as a name people would think "what the hell?"

I've thought about that, as well. It would be interesting to get answers to those questions.

[Datech]

Few things I often think about in varying contexts:

1) If God created us, who created God?

2) Did God create humans because he was lonely, or did humans create God because we were lonely?

3) Atoms, molecules, and all particles act in probabilistic manners, meaning we can, to a certain extent, predict what one will do. Our brains and bodies are made up of these same particles, so is there really such thing as free will?

4) We make robots out of mechanical parts that function on basic mechanical, chemical, and electrical properties. Even though we can't do it now, do you believe it is possible to substitute 'mechanical' for 'organic' in the above sentence? If so, how do we know that we are not all organic robots participating in a giant alien science experiment?

5) Is it arrogance or fear that leads most religions to believe that no life exists beyond earth?

And as a corollary, visit the website www.365tomorrows.com (http://www.365tomorrows.com). It is a website that posts a new, future based short story every day. It's pretty incredible.

[Zephik]

Few things I often think about in varying contexts:

1) It might be possible that god, if such a thing exists, that it/he/she has always existed. Certainly beyond the understanding of the human brain though, which begs the question, why didn't he address such a thing in "his works"? Certainly he could of foreseen such a question arising in the majority of human minds? "I have always existed and you aren't able to understand that" is kind of a lame answer, imo.

2) Maybe humans created god through our loneliness and desire for its existence? Massive collective conscious over thousands of years? Hmmm... might have some interesting effects, considering we know practically next to nothing about the extent of the power of the human mind.

3) Interesting... what about genes that give people higher chances at certain things, like cancer? I wouldn't really call that free will either. Its not like they had a choice in the matter...

4) Making "robots" out of organic material, such as living tissue or something similar to that, is entirely possible. So is creating a universe, maybe we are such? That might explain god. Its entirely possible that we were created. But who created our creators?

5) Either, or and sometimes both.

[xmastree]

Imagine that I know something.
You know that I know.
I know that you know that I know.
You know that I know that you know that I know.
Is there ever a point where you don't know that I know that.... etc.
And does it make any difference to anything?

[ownaginatious]

My girlfriend and I have had some weird topics come up in conversations lately.

2) Who started your last name. Where along the line did someone without a last name decide... hey, I don't have a last name so I'm gunna create one and pass it onto further generations to come. How did that come to be? When did it become a standard? How did it work its way into the legal system or better yet, when did it work its way into the legal system? Did the old "cowboy and indian" days have legal records?

3) It's strange how most names are names only and have no actual meaning at all. Names are literally nothing but a sound... there's nothing else to them besides what we've grown accustomed to hearing. "Michael." It means nothing yet when you hear it.. you know it's a name. Gleepglop. Also a meaningless sound (at least on earth) yet if we tried to apply it as a name people would think "what the hell?"

Most names actually do mean something. A lot of English names don't mean anything, in our opinions, because they are derived from words which aren't in English (i.e. Gaelic, Latin.etc).

As to the last name thing, there is a very extensive article on this on Wikipedia. Last names are actually a relatively new thing to most populations, and some have only just acquired it recently (i.e. Mongolians). Basically it came about when populations became so large that they needed to be further subdivided besides just one name, at least, that's how a lot of colonies justified giving last names to natives in areas they colonized. One thing that made me laugh that I read about is how a lot of Dutch people got last names. Apparently the French forced them to create last names centuries ago when they were occupying the Netherlands or something, so a lot of Dutch people made up stupid last names since they thought it was only going to be temporary (i.e. words literally meaning "poop"). Apparently there are still a few with last names like that 0.o.

An interesting thing I also learned is that the custom of married women taking their husband's last name is only really a North American / British thing. In Iceland, for example, the children get the last name of their father plus "dottir" or "sen" added, depending if they're male or female.

Just thought I'd throw that out there ;)

[ownaginatious]

I just remembered that I have also worked out how we do see the same colors... the way our eyes are made. I am very certain that there are variations in how vividly people see various colors.

I agree, but the way our brains interpret those signals coming from our eyes could be completely different. All eyes may see the colour "blue" relatively the same way, but perhaps the colours are processed completely different by each person's brain... our brains do flip all images upside down automatically after all :p. Hard to explain...

[billygoat333]

I agree, but the way our brains interpret those signals coming from our eyes could be completely different. All eyes may see the colour "blue" relatively the same way, but perhaps the colours are processed completely different by each person's brain... our brains do flip all images upside down automatically after all :p. Hard to explain...

actually they flip them right side up! our lenses in our eyes flip the image upside down against our retina. our brain just processes the image 180 degrees from original. learned about this in astronomy when we built our own telescopes using lenses. we had to calculate focal lengths of the lenses and stuff, really interesting! if you have never taken a college level physics/astronomy class, DO IT.

[BuzzKillington]

When did the emoticon :oP become the universal face for "haha, just kidding."

When I'm being sarcastic or cracking a joke, I definitely have never stuck my tongue out to the side angled down. *has the urge to use :oP*

...my girlfriend and I think of random stuff.

[Airbozo]

what if our earth is a spec or dust on another earth..
and every spec or dust on that earth is an earth..

and that bigger earth was only a spec?

Close to what I was thinking;

Our Earth is nothing more than an atom which is part of another structure (the solar system) which is part of another structure (the universe) which makes up another structure that is part of some larger being...


The particle of the thumbnail of a giant being theory.

[Zephik]

So, would that make the Big Bang like some gigantic fart or something? :D

[Airbozo]

So, would that make the Big Bang like some gigantic fart or something? :D

Naw, that was our host (the giant being) passing the birth canal... The big bang was just the slap on the butt to get us all breathing...

[XcOM]

I just remembered that I have also worked out how we do see the same colors... the way our eyes are made. I am very certain that there are variations in how vividly people see various colors.

What about people that are colour blind? and only see in grayscale?

[Collinstheclown]

They were born without the cones or with defective ones. IIRC People who only see grayscale are rare in comparison to partial color blind people.




-CollinstheClown

[Airbozo]

They were born without the cones or with defective ones. IIRC People who only see grayscale are rare in comparison to partial color blind people.




-CollinstheClown


This is true. People who only see in grayscale are a rare breed indeed. It is a totally different thing than being color blind (which is truly a misnomer). Most people with color blindness see some colors but not others or see certain colors as other colors (blue instead of green for instance).

[Zephik]

How do you know that a person is seeing, for example, what we see as green, but the color is actually blue?

:?

[Airbozo]

The eye doctors have tests for this.

I went to High School with a guy that was color blind. He tried to enlist in the service knowing they would not let him if they knew and he tried to fake the tests. They would not accept him. Not sure if this is a requirement anymore or not.

This may look familiar;
http://images.google.com/images?q=color+blindness+tests&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=-tIySs3WKpH8tgO_9tHEBw&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title

If you have a certain color blindness you will see one number and others will see a different number or no number at all.

[bartvandenberg]

my dad sees reds as brown, and blue's as grays. just my 2 cents:D

[HackSore]

I think i might be more of a nutter then most of you! most of my little thoughts/worries are brain related.

For instance, sometimes i wonder if i am the only person that exists, and that everyone and everything else is created by my brain. And if this is the case, maybe i can control the world around me?

I did hallucinagenic drugs a few years back, sometimes i freak out over the thought that i might still be tripping, and one day i will wake up and find that the last few years of my life didnt happen.

When you dream, everything seems so real, no matter how strange the dream is. What if the conciousness that is being experienced now is just a dream, and death is just waking up to a different conciousness?

I also wonder sometimes if i perceive time differently to other people, i guess its kinda the same as all the talk of colour perception. like, if im looking forward to something, going out to party or see a band or whatever, its almost like im never actually there, all of a sudden its past and nothing but a memory.

I dont think im doing a very good job of explaining these things to be honest, but my mind is a bit of a mess these days! lol.

[Zephik]

Do people/objects/things cease to exist when I'm not in direct sight or contact with them, but they still exist within their own individual universe, and thus its possible, for example, to come to know a person based on those two separate universes meeting from time to time? Are we just living in one gigantic mixing pot of individual universes created by anything and everything? Does that explain the lack of, as far as we know, anything at all in space? Does it explain space itself?

What if you could separate the line between dreams and reality? You can dream anything, but reality has rules and boundaries, what if you could bring your dreaming mind into reality? Obviously it wouldn't apply to the people around you, as the rules still apply to them, but what of yourself? Could you have super-human strength? What if you fell off of a cliff that wasn't actually there, would you still die for, to everyone else anyways, no apparent reason? Would your brain adapt to this new world where it believes there are no rules or boundaries and somehow evolve? What would happen if it did? Whats the extent of its evolution. Could you become a psychic or move things around with your mind or with limbs that you believe to be there but actually aren't?

[BuzzKillington]

Do people/objects/things cease to exist when I'm not in direct sight or contact with them, but they still exist within their own individual universe, and thus its possible, for example, to come to know a person based on those two separate universes meeting from time to time? Are we just living in one gigantic mixing pot of individual universes created by anything and everything? Does that explain the lack of, as far as we know, anything at all in space? Does it explain space itself?

What if you could separate the line between dreams and reality? You can dream anything, but reality has rules and boundaries, what if you could bring your dreaming mind into reality? Obviously it wouldn't apply to the people around you, as the rules still apply to them, but what of yourself? Could you have super-human strength? What if you fell off of a cliff that wasn't actually there, would you still die for, to everyone else anyways, no apparent reason? Would your brain adapt to this new world where it believes there are no rules or boundaries and somehow evolve? What would happen if it did? Whats the extent of its evolution. Could you become a psychic or move things around with your mind or with limbs that you believe to be there but actually aren't?

"Where do you get your weed from?"

Sorry, Grandma's Boy quote.

[Zephik]

"Where do you get your weed from?"

Sorry, Grandma's Boy quote.

Little leprechauns deliver it to me while I sleep. :p

[Collinstheclown]

Bringing it back...

This came up just a few minutes ago. Does a tank of Helium weight more when emptied out?




-CollinstheClown

[farlo]

Bringing it back...

This came up just a few minutes ago. Does a tank of Helium weight more when emptied out?




-CollinstheClown

weighs less empty, the gasses are compressed in the cylinder.

[Will]

Cool thread :up:

After taking a Java class in college, I've thought about everyday life as if it were just a computer program with somebody loosely holding the reins, like SimCity 2000. (That would totally explain The Onion newspaper site)

Then the Matrix came out, and I was glad to see I wasn't the only one.

I wrote a paper on time travel in high school. The stuff I found during my research nearly made my head explode. There's a cool show in Discovery or History Channel that sortof explains the "fabric of space-time", so look for this if you're interested.

[nevermind1534]

weighs less empty, the gasses are compressed in the cylinder.

That's why the helium rushes out and air doesn't rush in.

[Collinstheclown]

Bringing it back yet again...

Just saw a show on Science channel about 'Time'. They mentioned time machines, so I got thinking.

What happens when we turn it on?

For starters we would know almost instantly that it would work, because who wouldn't want to see the look of the person that turned it on. Heres where it gets fun... How many people would want to go back to see that very moment of success? it doesn't matter when they come from because they would all go back to the same exact time. Could you imagine a potentally infinte amount of people traveling through tot he same exact point in time? I don't think that door is wide enough...

Another point about time machines. If someone from 5000 years in the future were to travel through and tell us everything that will happen from now till the year 7009, what would happen once he tells us?
My theory is that once he tells us then someone else from 5000 years in the future will come through and tell us everything between now and 7009. Only this time our knowledge was alreadt 5000 years ahead. This could mean that potentially as soon as we turn it on our knowledge would infinitly advance.

Given these scenarios, mass chaos would occur as soon as the machine would be turned on. The world could be destroyed in an instant is someone evil gets the chance to send some weapon of mass destruction through. If that were to happen then the machine would've been destroyed. which means that person from the future would've have ever been able to send that bomb. Would the time machine have ever been destroyed?

With all that said... should we try and build a time machine?




-CollinstheClown

[mDust]

I didn't notice the dates on the posts here until I had responded to them all and read the last post...but I decided not to delete them.

My girlfriend and I have had some weird topics come up in conversations lately.

1) Have you every thought about how barbaric it is for a human to operate on another? Cutting, sewing, sawing, stapling, etc... this also includes plastic surgery. That stuff can be gruesome!

2) Who started your last name. Where along the line did someone without a last name decide... hey, I don't have a last name so I'm gunna create one and pass it onto further generations to come. How did that come to be? When did it become a standard? How did it work its way into the legal system or better yet, when did it work its way into the legal system? Did the old "cowboy and indian" days have legal records?

3) It's strange how most names are names only and have no actual meaning at all. Names are literally nothing but a sound... there's nothing else to them besides what we've grown accustomed to hearing. "Michael." It means nothing yet when you hear it.. you know it's a name. Gleepglop. Also a meaningless sound (at least on earth) yet if we tried to apply it as a name people would think "what the hell?"A1) It depends on 'why' they are operating.
A2) Back in Roman times or so, a first name is all you needed. The world's population was only about a hundred thousand and the chances of running into anyone with the same name as you were pretty slim. It probably did happen occasionally, but wasn't something anyone needed to worry about. Then they started going by their name and adding where they were from to differentiate themselves. e.g. Leonardo de Vinci...name: Leonardo from: Vinci. As the population rose exponentially there could be three Leonardos in a small town. To avoid confusion (Europeans at least) began taking on their professional title as a second name. e.g. Leonardo Smith could have been a blacksmith. That title was extended to immediate family and became the last name. As the population continued to explode, middle and other names were added. Now in the modern US, there are hundreds of millions of people, thousands of which share at least one part of their name. There are about 50 people in the US that have the exact same name as I do (all three names). So, we have SS numbers...at least until the population hits a billion.
A3) All names do have a meaning...if you don't understand what the name means, it's probably not in your language. (Michael (http://www.behindthename.com/name/michael), Matthew (http://www.behindthename.com/name/matthew), Shaniqua (http://www.behindthename.com/name/shaniqua))


2) Did God create humans because he was lonely, or did humans create God because we were lonely?
3) Atoms, molecules, and all particles act in probabilistic manners, meaning we can, to a certain extent, predict what one will do. Our brains and bodies are made up of these same particles, so is there really such thing as free will?
4) We make robots out of mechanical parts that function on basic mechanical, chemical, and electrical properties. Even though we can't do it now, do you believe it is possible to substitute 'mechanical' for 'organic' in the above sentence? If so, how do we know that we are not all organic robots participating in a giant alien science experiment?
A2) Humans created gods because we were lazy and ignorant. Instead of observation of phenomena we just wrote stuff off as 'acts of gods'. Sort of like how modern day insurance companies do if your basement floods...
A3) We sure can predict simple or even somewhat complex reactions, however, if you lump all of them together so there are hundreds of thousands of simultaneous reactions amongst billions of molecules it gets pretty hazy. Unfortunately, we cannot cut living people open and poke around inside until our understanding is complete...the Nazis tried that and it PO'd people around the world.
A4) Yes. Current technology allows us to grow just about any human (or other) body part in a lab. I doubt if we could make a brand new, unique human...but we could certainly build the entire copy of a body with exception of the working brain.

Our Earth is nothing more than an atom which is part of another structure (the solar system) which is part of another structure (the universe) which makes up another structure that is part of some larger being...HAHA! Yeah, I made the comparison between our solar system and atoms...and think: we're smashing atoms into each other all the time...:think:...billions of aliens may have been obliterated in the process!:whistler:

They were born without the cones or with defective ones. IIRC People who only see grayscale are rare in comparison to partial color blind people.I can tell most colors apart...damn that navy blue/black...but it gets tough sometimes.

If you have a certain color blindness you will see one number and others will see a different number or no number at all.The test I took had colored dots in a fairly high res grid, one color was a background square and a similar color formed a printed number inside the square (or so I was told:(). I missed just about all of them and the doc explained the range of colors my eyes were not able to distinguish, did a little math and said I was about 40% colorblind. I guess it's fairly common in men. My depth perception was well off the charts though, so BAM! I'm not blind!

With all that said... should we try and build a time machine?Sure...but I doubt that a machine could affect time in any way regardless of our technology...but if you want to travel to the year 7009, you could get there pretty quickly at the speed of light. That's the Relativity Twin Paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_paradox). Going backwards in time seems to be impossible at the moment though...that is, unless time doesn't exist at all! Personally, I suspect time is just a useless human invention similar to early religions: we invented it because we didn't know how to explain certain phenomena. Show me any evidence that time exists.

[knowledgegranted]

I wonder if Deja-vu moments actually happen. When a dimension collapses, it needs to stabilize it at an return point. When the fourth dimension collapses (which scientists think is collapses everyday), a Deja-Vu moment is created because an earlier "return point" was created and the dimension re created itself from that time stamp.

[Drum Thumper]

I wonder if Deja-vu moments actually happen. When a dimension collapses, it needs to stabilize it at an return point. When the fourth dimension collapses (which scientists think is collapses everyday), a Deja-Vu moment is created because an earlier "return point" was created and the dimension re created itself from that time stamp.

No no no no no. A deja-vu means that they changed something. It's nothing more than a glitch in the Matrix! :P

[artoodeeto]

ummm....guys....I just got the sudden feeling that I've read this thread before....