defragging

[BuzzKillington]

taking free space away?

I've went from 375gigs to 373?

WTH?

[Datech]

Defragging doesn't always give you a ton of space back. If you had 375GB worth of stuff to begin with you obviously have a ton anyway. Depending on what the majority of your data is (pictures, vids, docs, etc) it might already be fairly optimized.

If you wanna clean up a bit you can always run CCleaner and select the new Wipe Free Space option. I ran CCleaner the other day and got 12GB of crap off, then I went rooting around my file structure and realized Vista had copied my Downloads folder into my Pictures folder so that killed another 23GB of stuff.

Another tool that may help if you're still looking for more space is TreeSize Free. Super small and simple tree space viewer.

[BuzzKillington]

I used "defraggler" by the makers of CCleaner. I left it on for around 15 hours and over night it went from 62% to 63% finished.

I canceled the defrag because it's obviously not jiving with my system. Is there something I should know about defragging a system in RAID0? Any chance "Defraggler" just doesn't like Vista and/or 64bit?

[Datech]

Defraggler is usually a perfectly fine product. Once again it goes back to you having 375GB of data, it can take some time to go through all that. Another one you might want to try is JKDefrag (http://www.kessels.com/Jkdefrag/).

I haven't defragged my system in a while, so I don't really remember how long it takes.

[BuzzKillington]

I downloaded JKDefrag and left it running while I went out for a few hours. I came back and it was finished. It somehow managed to get me back 8GB's of space.

Great tool and great suggestion. +rep

[XcOM]

i use auslogics disk defrag,

and bear in mind that defrag moves all your data around, so that amount of data can take a long time, it also depends on how much free space you've got.

On a side note, if you have LOADS of files (Which i assume you do) windows could have been miss-reporting your used space/free space, and when defrag ran it corrected that issue and then reported the correct information. Also raid systems generaly take longer to defrag, i can't say much for defragler on 64bit, i've always used a 64bit defragger (I tend to try and use 64bit apps on a 64bit os to prevent issues, infact im thinking of installing 64bit on my laptop once i've completed my current campain on DOW 40k - Dark crusades)

[TheGreatSatan]

I use Advance System Care - The all in one utility!

[crenn]

I use Raxco PerfectDisk 10 Professional myself. It is a paid product, but works very well.

[The boy 4rm oz]

I agree with Datech, JKDefrag is awesome, best Defrag tool I have used.

[TheGreatSatan]

Apparently you are not supposed to defrag an SSD though....

Anyone know?

[XcOM]

it wont affect peformance as the whole idea it to reduce head movement, and with a ssd you dont have this, you also increase the amount of read/writes which you should try to avoid with ssd's

[The boy 4rm oz]

it wont affect peformance as the whole idea it to reduce head movement, and with a ssd you dont have this, you also increase the amount of read/writes which you should try to avoid with ssd's

However SSDs gradually lose performance over time so you need to format them to keep them at their peak performances. It has something to do with how the drive writes "1" and "0" and how it manages the stored sectors.

[crenn]

However SSDs gradually lose performance over time so you need to format them to keep them at their peak performances. It has something to do with how the drive writes "1" and "0" and how it manages the stored sectors.
Someone is a little behind ;)

SSDs do lose a little performance over time, but there is some things that can help with that.

[XcOM]

Someone is a little behind ;)

SSDs do lose a little performance over time, but there is some things that can help with that.

care to elaborate?

[Luke122]

it wont affect peformance as the whole idea it to reduce head movement, and with a ssd you dont have this, you also increase the amount of read/writes which you should try to avoid with ssd's

That's exactly what I was going to say. The limited read/writes can be greatly impacted by defragging.

[The boy 4rm oz]

Someone is a little behind ;)

SSDs do lose a little performance over time, but there is some things that can help with that.

Yes I know but until SSDs work and are as reliable as mechanical drives and are the same price they wont have a place in my rig.

[Datech]

Yes I know but until SSDs work and are as reliable as mechanical drives and are the same price they wont have a place in my rig.

But don't SSD's already outperform HDD's? Price aside, the performance loss of an SSD doesn't really compare to the reliability of an HDD. But then again, if you drop a magnet in your case the reliability factor kinda goes out the window... :lick:

[The boy 4rm oz]

Yes they may out perform but that doesn't mean they are as reliable as the mechanical drives. Having to de-frag an SSD will shorten it's lifespan and having to do so frequently due to the built in controllers not being perfected yet will eventually lead to a thrashed out drive.

I acknowledge that SSDs are damn fast, well most of them are, some can be beaten by the Samsung F1 series of mechanical drives but until they are perfected and have a better $-GB ratio then I'm not interested, unless one gets given to me.

[SXRguyinMA]

I use diskeeper, works fine for me :up:

[TheGreatSatan]

Supposedly SSD's are limited to 100,000 write cycles. Who uses their drive that much?