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Oneslowz28
08-10-2009, 06:27 PM
Check this out. I am going to try it tonight because I think my neighbors son is stealing my wireless. http://www.ex-parrot.com/~pete/upside-down-ternet.html

BuzzKillington
08-10-2009, 07:42 PM
lmao

EDIT: That's what's nice about wireless N. I set my router to N only so unless they have a newer laptop they simply wont see the connection.

What about encryption? Do you think they're getting past it?

simon275
08-10-2009, 07:47 PM
I remember this from a few years back. Still funny though.

Zephik
08-10-2009, 07:49 PM
That's more fun than getting an encrypted router! Hell, I might just unlock mine for all to use and do this. lol

Oneslowz28
08-10-2009, 10:33 PM
Yea I am sure they are cracking my encryption. I dont mind much though. I did set it up to redirect him to a gay porn site for anything he tries to go to.

Zephik
08-10-2009, 10:37 PM
Yea I am sure they are cracking my encryption. I dont mind much though. I did set it up to redirect him to a gay porn site for anything he tries to go to.

Make it one with lots of raunchy noises and when you try and exit out the button jumps around. muahahahahaha

...and then once you finally do get the button, it redirects to a rick roll. :p

mtekk
08-10-2009, 10:57 PM
Could always setup a RADIUS server which forces the user to log in (something I haven't had time to do... yet), and if they don't have a link you could place a pay-pal button on the page allowing them temporary access for a nominal fee ;)

Luke122
08-11-2009, 10:58 AM
HAHAHAHA... I love this!

Crazy Buddhist
08-11-2009, 11:56 AM
Yea I am sure they are cracking my encryption. I dont mind much though. I did set it up to redirect him to a gay porn site for anything he tries to go to.

Are you using WEP? This is very easily crackable and not really worth using.

Also I would refer you to the security tips in the Wireless Networking Wiki:

- Use WPA/WPA2 security

- Use a long and odd passphrase such as 1Hy6%jkOilUtredF8*54D$dFER

- Use an odd SSID such as y&thgfR%$rg)k@jkhG^YF

- DO NOT broadcast the SSID (unless you have a problem connecting something)

- Use MAC address filtering on your router and only allow your own devices.

- Change passphrases frequently.

That lot keeps most people away and bored. Serious hackers will still break it and piggyback but few and far between have the skills to do that - WEP it's childs-play, literally.

CrazyB

Omega
08-11-2009, 01:13 PM
WEP can mean the difference between the whole neighborhood on your wireless or maybe one or two people.

WEP is amazingly easy to break, but honestly, even just seeing a password protected network makes me either turn the other way or connect to an open one (or my own, but assuming my router is down).

no encryption is like the car without locks or windows -- plenty of people are going to get in to it.

WEP is like having locks and windows; it'll keep most people out, but doesn't take long to get in to.

WPA is like the car with the really, really good alarm system, hardened locks, and lexan windows; you can get in, but you've got to be determined.


as an IT tech, I encourage people to run WPA or WPA2 on their home wireless systems, but not everybody wants to bother with needing a password or such.

anywho, maybe MAC filtering so that non-familiar devices get flipped internet could be your last line of defense against wifi stealers. unless they're not using it to browse fleabay or anything. haha.

Crazy Buddhist
08-11-2009, 02:25 PM
The problem if someone has hacked your WEP "protection" is that they can easily then sniff your network traffic, look at your browsing, gather passwords ... your bank account details .... etc, etc, etc.

When they break the locks and get in your car they can steal the car and what's in it. When they break your WEP (unprotected) network they can steal whatever you are accessing and that can mean your identity, and really screw up your life. This sort of crime will increasingly be seen.

WEP is not worth the useless algorithms it is based upon

CrazyB

Luke122
08-11-2009, 02:49 PM
WEP can mean the difference between the whole neighborhood on your wireless or maybe one or two people....

true, but I'd rather no one was in mine.

anywho, maybe MAC filtering so that non-familiar devices get flipped internet could be your last line of defense against wifi stealers. unless they're not using it to browse fleabay or anything. haha.

Spoofing a MAC address can be remarkably easy also. :)

Crazy Buddhist
08-11-2009, 03:28 PM
Spoofing a MAC address can be remarkably easy also. :)

Absolutely true. +rep.

Hence the need for higher levels of encryption.

I am contemplating a RADIUS server at home. Also piping my internet through a VPN to Holland where privacy laws are much stricter. No one is keeping logs of my internet activity once everything is in place.

CrazyB

Luke122
08-11-2009, 03:38 PM
Also piping my internet through a VPN to Holland where privacy laws are much stricter.CrazyB

What is that going to do to your response times? I imagine it can't be very good. :(

LiTHiUM0XiD3
08-11-2009, 04:01 PM
WPA2 and i dont broadcast my my SSID...

crenn
08-11-2009, 04:15 PM
I broadcast my SSID but I use WPA2-PSK. Used to only use WEP, didn't when I managed to break into my own wireless network (majority of the old routers we had only supported WEP) but now I try to make sure we're using WPA2.

Crazy Buddhist
08-11-2009, 04:40 PM
What is that going to do to your response times? I imagine it can't be very good. :(

Good point Luke. Actually the service is very good.

Skype calls are still fine and that matters most to me. I ping the speedtest server in holland at about 58 ms over that service whilst the London server via my ISP is 49 ms. 20% or so deterioration for total privacy is OK by me.

I don't do online gaming so ping times are rarely critical for me anyway.

Matthew

PS.

Back to the point, I used to have an SSID of CALL075492345284xs (my old phone number)

When a neighbor phoned and asked if they could use my wireless I met someone new and if they seemed OK I let them. One woman took the piss out of it completely and ate my bandwidth so google didn't work (possibly a mal-maintained bot-net machine). I kicked her off the network but anyone whose use didn't bother me was fine.

As I live on the 7th in a block and the AP was by my window the signal went a good 200 yards - I met some nice folk.

Mark_Hardware
08-11-2009, 04:49 PM
hahaha that is hilarious I love it! I don't think I have to worry much about that here though. I think most of my neighbors have pawned their computers for drug money, and the ones who actually still do have some $300 emachine from walmart sitting on their bedroom floor certainly don't have the fortitude or intelligence to crack a wifi network.

Crazy Buddhist
08-11-2009, 05:17 PM
hahaha that is hilarious I love it! I don't think I have to worry much about that here though. I think most of my neighbors have pawned their computers for drug money, and the ones who actually still do have some $300 emachine from walmart sitting on their bedroom floor certainly don't have the fortitude or intelligence to crack a wifi network.

Fresno?

Mark_Hardware
08-11-2009, 05:33 PM
lmao Phoenix

Drum Thumper
08-11-2009, 05:40 PM
Given the choice, I think I would take the route that the OP posted rather than bust out an enterprise solution. I've got nothing to hide--in fact, here's a list of what I google:


Football
Porno
Books about War


And before you ask, yes, I do indeed have an average sized house, with a nice hardwood floor. :P

mtekk
08-11-2009, 07:32 PM
And before you ask, yes, I do indeed have an average sized house, with a nice hardwood floor. :P

That's all fine and well, but do you want to sing us a song about the American dream? :D

Oneslowz28
08-11-2009, 07:34 PM
Did someone say FOOTBALL? Yes it is almost time for the greatest sport man has ever played and I am not talking about that faux sport you guys call football across the pond. If it isn't played with a brown pigskin, on a 100 yard field with 2 goal post on each end then its not football. With that said, in college football this is the year of the dawg. As for NFL I am taking either the Titans, Pats, or Buccs to go all the way this year.

luciusad2004
08-11-2009, 09:15 PM
Do any of you guys ever still run in to a problem w/ devices not supporting WPA or WPA2. It could just be because my family generally has older and/or cheaper equipment but it's not uncommon for me to be incapable of using more advanced encryption simply because not all of the devices that would be on the network support it. Maybe its just me. Hell, I don't think the router my Girlfriends family has even supports it. It's a combination router/modem supplied by the ISP so i didn't expect it to be professional gear, but damn, not supporting WPA, it's like they WANT customers to share wifi.

mtekk
08-11-2009, 09:54 PM
Do any of you guys ever still run in to a problem w/ devices not supporting WPA or WPA2. It could just be because my family generally has older and/or cheaper equipment but it's not uncommon for me to be incapable of using more advanced encryption simply because not all of the devices that would be on the network support it. Maybe its just me. Hell, I don't think the router my Girlfriends family has even supports it. It's a combination router/modem supplied by the ISP so i didn't expect it to be professional gear, but damn, not supporting WPA, it's like they WANT customers to share wifi.

Well I did have problems with Windows 7 not working on WEP networks, but it works fine on WPA and WPA2 networks. IIRC only old 802.11b devices don't support WPA.

nevermind1534
08-11-2009, 10:30 PM
The Nintendo DS only works with WEP. With WEP, I wasn't even able to get it to work, so I just left it unprotected. Same with the Wii. I look at who connects to the wireless, and I never see anything other than my computers. If I did, I'd probably set WPA2.

gamer_from_aust
08-14-2009, 04:14 AM
lol