New build

[Chewy_Solo]

This will be my second build, and just want some opinions on it. Im not sure if I'm going to mod it or not yet.


CPU: Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202

Motherboard: EVGA x58 E757-TR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188049

RAM: OCZ XMP Ready Series 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227388

HDD: WD VelociRaptor 150GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136296

CPU Cooler: XIGMATEK Dark Knight http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233029


Case: Antec Twelve Hundred http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129043

DVD Drive: Lite-on 24X CD/DVD Burner SATA http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106291

PSU: Current PC power and cooling 800W

GPU: Current EVGA GTX 285

Prices:

CPU + Antec 1200 (combo): 424.98

Motherboard: 239.99

RAM: 139.99

HDD: 179.99

DVD: 31.99

Total: 1,061.92

Is that case good for cooling? What about that CPU cooler? I've also been looking at the Lian-Li P80 (I think its called), but its another 200 dollars.

Im doing this in a computer class where as a matter of fact the guy from MNPCTech is going to talk to us... :D

Thanks!

[Zephik]

Is the Antec Twelve Hundred good for cooling? I can't tell if that's an honest question or if you're just being smart. lol

The Antec Twelve Hundred is GREAT for cooling. It has FIVE 120mm Fans, an option for another 120mm on the side panel and a giant 200mm Fan on top, just for good measure. You know, in case a self-contained tornado isn't good enough for you. lol

Plus its an "open air" designed case. The front is basically completely open as well is the side, back and top. That spells G.R.E.A.T for case cooling.

The Antec Twelve Hundred is easily the "coolest" case ever. Pun intended. :p

By the way, I totally hate you. I want one soooo bad. lol

As for the CPU cooler... looks good to me! Has some pretty great reviews.

Very nice build! Definitely going for "the dream build" with this one. Well, my dream at the very least. lol

[Chewy_Solo]

I was being serious, as I heard it was great for cooling but I did for my thermaltake armor too and it turned out to be worse than I expected. I want as many opinions as possible.
Sorry if it was a stupid question =/

As for a case mod Im not sure if I should even do one as it just seems to decrease cooling anyway.

[Zephik]

I was being serious, as I heard it was great for cooling but I did for my thermaltake armor too and it turned out to be worse than I expected. I want as many opinions as possible.
Sorry if it was a stupid question =/

As for a case mod Im not sure if I should even do one as it just seems to decrease cooling anyway.

No such thing as a stupid question man. I was just messin' with ya. :)

Well, for modding, you can do a lot with just simple things like lighting and paint. Although it looks great as-is, it might look better if maybe you made it into a nVidia edition Twelve Hundred? Get some green accents in there, switch out the LED's to green... Bam. Done. or you know, something like that.

For hardware modding, I've seen a guy mount a triple radiator for water cooling into the front of the case. Although it looks like your going for air, but at least you have the option just in case.

Maybe you could do something with plexi? or even metal? Some green plexi replacing the mesh grills would look pretty nice, maybe instead of just cutting holes for the fan you can cut out a grill pattern. Maybe something like this (http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4624/surfacemeat1308073639.gif).

There is a lot you can do modding wise to this case without decreasing performance. Just gotta brain storm a bit. ^_^

Good luck with the build! I can't wait to see it.

[Zephik]

Here is another idea I just thought of. Looks cool and doesn't take too much away from air-flow. Not that you'll ever have a problem with airflow with that case. lol

http://profil-teksten.dk/nlm/699.jpg

Link to original mod here. (http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9985&page=11)

[FuzzyPlushroom]

Whatever you do, buy the 1200. I can't speak for the rest of the components (they look awesome, but I haven't run 'em personally). If you have the space for the 1200 and you won't be moving it much/are reasonably strong, it's damn near perfect if you have a high-heat system and a stack of hard drives.

Well, mine isn't exactly "high-heat" and three hard drives doesn't exactly constitute "a stack", but I needed a case and figured I'd get an investment. However, I'm slightly ashamed to admit that aside from a few added thumbscrews, rearranged drive cages, and a piece of electrical tape over the front edge of the fan mesh (this is very important if you use that top tray for small objects), mine is stock.

I cover mine up with a blanket at night so the light from the front and rear LED fans doesn't keep me awake. Having half of the top fan exposed, on High, is enough to keep my system cool at idle.

You won't regret a thing until you have to move it. The only practical downside is having to undo sixteen thumbscrews (stock) to clean the front intake fan filters; as such, I never have.

[Chewy_Solo]

I like the idea in your second post Zephik, I was thinking about something along those lines, but I would think that that would indeed reduce airflow.

As for the NVIDIA design, I like my cases black and blue :) So maybe something blue? Im not sure =/

I wish I had access to some machining equipment... so much I could do...
Fuzzy, I will be using 3 HDDs, so are you saying that reduces airflow if they are in the front area in cages?

[y4na]

Uhm, why is your hard drive so small? This is a stupid question just really curious.

[x88x]

Uhm, why is your hard drive so small? This is a stupid question just really curious.

Because he's going for speed over capacity. The Velociraptors are 10k RPM 2.5" HDDs that generally perform better than higher capacity drives. However, they are also smaller (150 and 300GB versions) and more expensive (~$1/GB last I checked).

[Chewy_Solo]

Well, I currently have a Raptor 150GB and another 160GB standard drive. So im thinking I could put my OS and games on both high performance drives and use the other for storage. I suppose I could do RAID with them right? Never really thought to do it or not though.

I also have an old Thermalright ultra 120 eXtreme and I cant find any 1366 brackets for it, and I dont want to buy another. Although I was very disappointed in its performance.. Maybe I will lap the HS this time..

[x88x]

@ RAIDing drives:
I assume you're talking about getting another 150GB Velociraptor and RAIDing it with your current Velociraptor (not Raptor)? I'd say go ahead, I've got a RAID-0 going with my two Vertex's, and it's amazing. I would, however, qualify that with a word of caution. If you RAID-0 your OS/Apps drive, BACK IT UP! If one of the drives in a RAID-0 dies...you're kinda screwed if you don't have backups. So, if you do decide to do that, do yourself a favor and go grab a nice 1-1.5TB drive, and use scheduled backup software to grab an incremental image of your drive every day or so.

[Chewy_Solo]

I guess I was under the impression RAID could be done with different drive types? As for backing up, I have an external 320GB drive that I use for backing up, suppose it wouldn't hurt to get another, I just need more Firewire ports and that new MOBO doesn't have any, How would I solve that one anyway?
As for getting a TB drive, aren't 3 HDDs already blocking airflow quite a bit?

[x88x]

RAID works best when all drives are identical, or at the very least have identical specs. RAID-0 specifically will behave very oddly if the drives are not identical. I would definitely not recommend doing a RAID-0 across a Velociraptor and a Raptor. The nature of how RAID-0 works means that if all the drives in the array do not have identical read/write characteristics, really strange things will happen.

Firewire, you can either daisy-chain, or get a PCI/PCIe add-on card to get more ports, but I would recommend internal over external; you'll get higher throughput and just better overall performance.

3 HDDs in an Antec 1200 will not be a problem at all. That case has massive potential, and can easily take 9+ HDDs. HDDs generally don't actually block much airflow at all, and especially in a 1200, it's not really something you need to worry about.

[Chewy_Solo]

I mean is it really worth it to go RAID with say 2 velociraptors? Would it be that much of a performance increase for gaming? As I wouldn't be too exited buying two of the drives.

[x88x]

Well, assuming a good controller, theoretically you'd have a 2x boost in read/write performance with a 2-drive RAID-0 array, but whether or not that would be worth the cost is up to you. Usually the HDD isn't the bottleneck in gaming performance anyways.

[Chewy_Solo]

Well, assuming a good controller, theoretically you'd have a 2x boost in read/write performance with a 2-drive RAID-0 array, but whether or not that would be worth the cost is up to you. Usually the HDD isn't the bottleneck in gaming performance anyways.

Thats what I was thinking, It would already out perform any 7400 RPM drives.

[x88x]

Actually, iirc, some of the newer 7200RPM drives with 500GB platters and 32MB caches have performance at least pretty close to the Velociraptors, but yeah, the Velociraptors are nice performers. The don't compare to good SSDs, but for the performance-capacity-cost, they're pretty good.

[slaveofconvention]

Up to 3x HD, Single Optical Drive, Single VGA and no watercooling? That case is going to be huge for that build. Don't get me wrong - nothing wrong with the case but you really don't need something that size. I'd seriously consider the 900 instead - it's a more reasonable size, it's got more than enough cooling to keep up with the hardware you're planning on using, looks very similar (it's basically the same case with less drive bays - drive bays you don't need) and it'll save you some money. I'm running a Q6700, 8GB ram, 4870VGA and 3xHD in the 900 and it stays really cool - it'd keep up with your hardware no problem...

[Zephik]

I'd look into the Nine Hundred Two for a smaller case. It has all of the finishes of a Twelve Hundred. Its basically a cross breed between the two.

Personally, I'd stick with the Twelve Hundred. You'll never need a new case with it and you'll always have enough room to expand or do anything you want. That, and because its such a large case with so much cooling, you should never have any cooling problems unless a volcano erupts inside of your case. lol

I kind of look at it like "future proofing". That, and function doesn't always have to hold hands with form. Sometimes, people just like having a monstrous case just because. :p

But yea, anyways, if you want a smaller case and if you want to save a bit of dough, check out the Nine Hundred or Nine Hundred Two. Amazon has the Nine Hundred for $107, the Nine Hundred Two for $124, and the Twelve Hundred for $170. So you could save $46 at least or $63 at most AND get a smaller and more portable computer. Your decision.

[Chewy_Solo]

Yea, I would like to keep this one for the future, so who knows, water cooling eventually or what not.

And again, should I go with that Heatsink or keep my current Thermalright Ultra 120 eXtreme? I cannot find any converter brackets.

I did some calculations with the PSU calculator and apparently my current 800 Watt will be fine, correct?

[x88x]

Your 800W PC P&W will be more than enough to power this rig; no worries there.

For the HS/F, you can get an adapter bracket for your current one here (http://www.xoxide.com/thermalright-lga1366-boltthru-kit.html), but if you weren't happy with it's performance on your current rig, I wouldn't expect you to be happy with its performance on a new one, especially since the i7 probably puts out more heat than your current proc (also, lapping usually only gives you ~5C compared to good thermal paste, iirc). Personally I wouldn't go with the one you have picked out, because of the all-aluminum construction; copper has a much better thermal properties than aluminum, for HSs. I would recommend one of these:
Scythe MUGEN-2 SCMG-2000 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185093)
ZALMAN CNPS9900LED (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118046)
Scythe KATANA 3 (http://www.xoxide.com/scythe-katana3-cpu-cooler.html)

[Zephik]

I'd try to stick with the Thermalright Ultra 120 eXtreme. Even if you could find a better HSF, its not going to be that much better. Even when overclocking that HSF is a champ. Some review sites even list it as the best of the best as far as air coolers go, or at least on par with the best of the best. So not really worth it to buy a whole new HSF, especially when that bracket only costs like 12 bucks.

If that beast doesn't provide you with adequate cooling let alone inside of a case that could pass off as a miniature tornado creator, then something is wrong. lol

You would have to buy a pretty nice WC kit to not just be on par with it, but to even surpass it. I'm not sure if anything less than $300 would be able to noticeably out-perform it?

Its no wonder you were concerned about compatibility. lol

[Chewy_Solo]

Man, I wish HSF were a little more straight forward and easier to agree on, I think Ill try and get a few more opinions as you guys seem pretty split on it :P

@x88x: I was planning on getting some good Artic Silver 5 anyway.... But I also heard that some of the thermalright 120 eXtremes had a base that was warped so it doesn't make good contact with the CPU. So that was why i was thinking about it. I don't want to lap my CPU...

On another note, where should I put my Computer to achieve the best cooling? I currently have it as shown the in pictures, but would it be better off on the desk? (These aren't recent pictures...)

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l222/Chewy_Solo/Computer%20related/Pictures/DSCN0217.jpg

[Zephik]

I think with that setup it'll be fine regardless of where you place it. You really only have to worry when you're in an enclosed space, but that's all pretty open. So place it anywhere you want really, I don't think you'll see much of a cooling difference if any at all with a Twelve Hundred placed even up against a wall.

Nice setup by the way. /jealous

What are you getting right now for temperatures with that cooler? or if you don't have a thermo, is it cool to the touch, warm, or hot? Are you using a fan directly (http://www.dvhardware.net/news/thermalright_ultra_120_extreme_1366_rt.jpg) with it?

This thing should be cooling adequately. I mean holy macaroni doodle art, check out all the awards (http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_page/product_page/cpu/u120ex/product_cpu_cooler_u120ex.htm) it has a the bottom of its product page. lol

[Chewy_Solo]

I Just am pretty sure a lot of heat gets trapped under the desk.

Thanks :D

As for the cooler, im getting about 45C average on idle, currently its ranging from 43-50 for the cores but its almost 80F in my house right now. its odd how my GPU always stays at 48C unless under load. Anyway, I do have a large fan on it, a high performance one.

Oh and under load it gets up to like 65C if im encoding a video or something, which I read is about as hot as my q6600 B3

[msmrx57]

I Just am pretty sure a lot of heat gets trapped under the desk.


As open as your desk is that isn't a problem.

[x88x]

Actually, I'd say that's pretty good temps for a Q6600. When I was running on the stock cooler on my Q9450, it would get about those same temps, and the Q9450 generally runs a good bit cooler than the Q6600, iirc.

[Chewy_Solo]

well now that its about 70F in my house my CPU temps idle around 44-36-40-43 for each core respectively

GTX 285 - 45C
7600 GS - 47C

[Chewy_Solo]

How do you guys think 2 150GB raptors would perform in RAID 0? that is if I can find another one.

[Chewy_Solo]

any comments/ideas?

[x88x]

How do you guys think 2 150GB raptors would perform in RAID 0? that is if I can find another one.

After a bit of searching, I finally found one place with a good variety of benchmark results: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1313337
(interesting thread number too :P )

Personally, I wouldn't recommend putting the money towards another Raptor. Judging from a quick look at eBay and Google, it looks like a new 150GB Raptor would run you around $120-165; around what a 150GB Velociraptor costs. Depending on your budget, I would recommend getting a 150 or 300GB Velociraptor to start with, and you can always RAID in another later if you want to. The 300 is actually only ~$50 more than the 150 on NewEgg, and at that price-point, a >30% price increase for a 100% capacity increase is more than worth it, if you can afford it.

[Chewy_Solo]

Yea I will probably go with a velociraptor, but those benchmarks look pretty good for the RAID 0. I guess I wont have much use for my other raptor, then, maybe I could do a hackintosh on my current storage drive? Im not sure if it would be worth it...

Anyway, xoxide is going out of business, Ill see what I can pick up.

[Chewy_Solo]

I ended up getting a adapter for my thermalright eXtreme 120

anyway, they are out of the RAM i had before, how about this? CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820145224

[x88x]

I would go with this set: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226050

Much better timings, and also by a high-quality manufacturer.

[Chewy_Solo]

Man, im hating that red, but performance over looks :P

But do timings like that make that much of a difference? I guess I never really understood what timers are or what they do.

[x88x]

Basically, it's the latency in communication between the RAM and the RAM controller.

Good explanation here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cas_latency

Basically, yeah, the difference between 8ns and 6ns Cas Latency should definitely make a noticeable difference. I remember there being a noticeable difference between 3.5 and 3.0 timed sticks back on my DDR system.

[Chewy_Solo]

then I will be sure to switch to that! Thanks

[Chewy_Solo]

Got the 1366 brackets today. So does this build seem sound?

[x88x]

Could you re-post what you ended up deciding on?

[Chewy_Solo]

CPU: Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202

Motherboard: EVGA x58 E757-TR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188049

RAM: mushkin 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226050

HDD: WD VelociRaptor 150GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136296

CPU Cooler: Current Thermalright Ultra 120 eXtreme

Case: Antec Twelve Hundred http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129043

DVD Drive: Lite-on 24X CD/DVD Burner SATA http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106291

PSU: Current PC power and cooling 800W

GPU: Current EVGA GTX 285

[x88x]

Everything looks good. Are you thinking of doing something interesting with all those PCI3 x16 slots? :D

[Chewy_Solo]

The mobo I was getting went out of stock... I guess I will need to wait about a week to buy anything.

No I don't have any Ideas. I already will use 2 of them for my 3 monitor setup.

You have any?

[x88x]

mwahaha, methinks a couple of these are in order:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195086
or these of you are of the nVidia persuasion:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133258

Also, about 12-14 of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236053


or if you want to take a storage approach instead, how about a couple of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816151053

and a few dozen of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136365


..oh crap, you didn't mention an unlimited budget, did you... :( dang it, nobody ever lets me fill my money-swimming-pool :(

hmm, not a whole lot of ideas then. Honestly, the above suggestions are pretty close to my real thoughts; either lots of monitors or lots of data...or both :D

[Chewy_Solo]

I wish I could afford that. Im assuming my GTX 285 will still be fine for a while even after the 5870 release.

[x88x]

Nope, as soon as the 5870 is released, all other graphics cards in the world will turn to dust, requiring you to buy a 5870 :P

[Chewy_Solo]

but it already out.

[x88x]

/checks case
...damn...somebody lied to me :D

Oh well, at least I still have a video card

[Chewy_Solo]

Alright I think im going to order everything real soon here. Im thinking though, should I possibly get a sound card?

[x88x]

It depends. How good is your ear? Some people don't notice the difference, others do. Personally, I was completely blown away by how much of a difference my Asus Xonar DX (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132006) made. The sound is much clearer and cleaner, even with my cheap speakers.

[Chewy_Solo]

I used to have a sound card for my Razer Barracuda HP-1 headset (the AC-1) but unfortunately the stupid adapter had a short in it so I couldn't use any normal audio devices with it so I have been using onboard. I have noticed that its harder to hear where people are and such like it was with my old card. I wasn't to happy with the Razer one. So I would like one I suppose.

[Chewy_Solo]

I guess I have run into another roadblock... 1156 or 1366? 1156 apparently performs better... Tough one... :(

[x88x]

Personally I would go with 1156 because it looks like that's what Intel wants to go with in the future, so hopefully you would have a smoother upgrade path.

[slaveofconvention]

I guess I have run into another roadblock... 1156 or 1366? 1156 apparently performs better... Tough one... :(

I just read a review of the new i5 gear etc, and the conclusion was something along the lines of "It's great but, quickly, get an i7 920 before intel reaslises what they've done with the pricing!"

[x88x]

Howso? The i7-860 (s1156) is basically identical to the i7-920 as far as I can tell, and it's the same price.

[slaveofconvention]

I admit I didn't read the article fully as it's only been about 6-8 months since I built my Q6700 rig and I'm not particularly interested, but....



In contrast, the fully-fledged LGA1366 Core i7-920 is cheaper than both of the new Lynnfield Core i7 CPUs. With LGA1156 and dual-channel DDR3 memory comparable in price to LGA1366 and triple-channel kits, we don't see the point in opting for an LGA1156 Core i7 CPU at all. If you're too lazy or scared to overclock, the Core i7-860 is faster thanks to Turbo Boost (rev 2), but the Core i7-920 is far faster when manually overclocked.

However, opting for an LGA1366 system has many advantages over an LGA1156 one. There's a wider choice of motherboards and coolers, while the X58 chipset and triple-channel memory are better for gaming than P55 and dual-channel memory. Folders and multi-monitor enthusiasts will also appreciate the extra graphics slots of provided by X58, while having 6GB of memory for much the same price as 4GB is also welcome. Finally, we know that Intel will continue to release CPUs on LGA1366, as the company told us that prototypes of the six-core Gulftown CPU are currently being tested on LGA1366 motherboards. This forthcoming CPU probably won't be cheap, however. Therefore, neither LGA1156 Core i7 CPU is worth buying - you'd be better off with an LGA1366 and Core-i7-920 system.

Of course, there will be cheaper LGA1156 motherboards on the way, which will help to make the Core i5-750 more attractive - the cheapest we are close to forming an opinion on is MSI's P55-GD65 motherboard, but at around £135, it's still priced higher than we would have hoped. For the Core i5-750 to become a truly great purchase, we believe that there need to be a bunch of respectably-featured boards closer to the £100 mark because, even with the P55-GD65 and cheaper memory, the platform costs aren't much lower than a Core i7-920 based system.

With that in mind, even if you like the look of the Core i5-750, you really should decide whether you can stretch to an i7-920 as things currently stand, just to make sure you're getting a good deal. Either way, our advice is to go out and buy a Core i7-920 before Intel realises its mistake and discontinues it.

[x88x]

/shrugs
IDK, prices might be different in the UK, and honestly I'm not interested in upgrading for a while either, but I checked NewEgg, and the 720 and 860 are both $290, with the 750 at ~$200.

[slaveofconvention]

I think it has more to do with the availability of motherboards, as well as the triple channel memory over dual channel - more choice and better RAM thruput works out as a faster system esp. for gaming. The probable introduction of the next gen 6core CPUs on 1366 is also a positive...

[Chewy_Solo]

Yea, I think Ill go i7... Ill order tommorow. Hopefully my RAM will be in stock.

[x88x]

I think it has more to do with the availability of motherboards, as well as the triple channel memory over dual channel - more choice and better RAM thruput works out as a faster system esp. for gaming.

?? both 1366 and 1156 are exclusively DDR3. Since the RAM controller is on the CPU, they'd have to go pretty far out of their way to run either with DDR2.



The probable introduction of the next gen 6core CPUs on 1366 is also a positive...

So they're gonna run both sockets in parallel? That's...odd...it seemed like they were just transferring everything over to socket 1156 (ex, replacing the 720 with the 860), and ditching socket 1366. Has Intel released their official plans for 1366 yet?


Sorry Chewy, I don't mean to hijack your thread.

[FuzzyPlushroom]

I'd be concerned about choosing one socket over the other and ending up with a Betamax-vs.-VCR situation, honestly. My guess is that it'll work out more as 370-vs.-Slot-1, where both sockets will continue in parallel, one for budget chips and the other for high-end gear, until all processors are released on a new standard that's not compatible with either.

[slaveofconvention]

?? both 1366 and 1156 are exclusively DDR3. Since the RAM controller is on the CPU, they'd have to go pretty far out of their way to run either with DDR2.




So they're gonna run both sockets in parallel? That's...odd...it seemed like they were just transferring everything over to socket 1156 (ex, replacing the 720 with the 860), and ditching socket 1366. Has Intel released their official plans for 1366 yet?


DDR3 is faster than DDR2 - I'm talking about quantity of physical sticks - you buy pairs for 1156 and sets of three for 1366 - being able to write to 3 at a time instead of 2 provides the performance boost.

[x88x]

Oooooh, after looking around, I think I see what you're getting at. I knew the i5's didn't support triple channel, but it looks like the x1156 i7's don't either. ...damn Intel, making our lives more complicated. Why can't they be like AMD and have one socket for everything in the desktop market? :mad:

[Chewy_Solo]

Dammit. I was the in the MIDDLE of checking out, go to the confirm order screen and BAM "EVGA E757 MOBO IS OUT OF STOCK"..... I guess I will need to wait until the 13th now. Man newegg, you fail.

[Chewy_Solo]

Ordered. Picking up the case and CPU at microcenter next tuesday :D

[x88x]

niice. I love Micro Center :D

[Chewy_Solo]

I may need to get my CPU from newegg after all... They have them for 80 less at Microcenter but apparently only have C0 Steppings... we will see on tuesday.

[Chewy_Solo]

Got my case and CPU, they had the D0 Stepping... Will start build next week.