$1300

[y4na]

Can you give me suggestions on a good build including monitor? I'm leaning towards ATI graphics cards.

[199Crazy]

dude just go to www.ibuypower.com! its all ready to go and you can get a monitor on the website too.

[Zephik]

This is a really really good deal right now and its only for a limited time!

http://www.ecost.com/Detail/Desktops/HP/GM333AARABA/42181399.aspx?navid=155441514

[Spawn-Inc]

dude just go to www.ibuypower.com! its all ready to go and you can get a monitor on the website too.

were is the fun in that... who wants to have their pc built by someone else.

[farlo]

mobo: 99$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131398
cpu: 189$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103674
ram: 59$x2 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104138
hdd: 54$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136358
dvd: 31$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151188
case:109$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146047
monitor 169$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236050
psu: 129$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171037
video: 149$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102825
OS: 189$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116678

$1236-ish before shipping

[Zephik]

mobo: 99$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131398
cpu: 189$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103674
ram: 59$x2 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104138
hdd: 54$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136358
dvd: 31$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151188
case:109$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146047
monitor 169$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236050
psu: 129$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171037
video: 149$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102825
OS: 189$ - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116678

$1236-ish before shipping

Got to redo those links in Canadian. ;)

[farlo]

i dont know aboot that. but heres a try


mobo: 119$ - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131398&Tpk=N82E16813131398
cpu: 219$ - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103674&Tpk=N82E16819103674
ram: 44$x2 - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227325
hdd: 69$ - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136358
dvd: 36$ - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151188&Tpk=N82E16827151188
case:119$ - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021
monitor 179$ - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236050
psu: 129$ - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171037
video: 162$ - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102825
OS: 229$ - http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116493CVF

$1349(ish) in canadian moneys before shipping

[Zephik]

Looks like it comes out to be about a hundred less than before, so... that's actually better priced now than it was before? Nice if so!

[farlo]

1234 heh 2 dollars difference.

[crenn]

My recommendation, wait a week ;)

[slaveofconvention]

That HP....

Manufacturer Information
Parts Warranty 90 Days
Labor Warranty 90 Days

Is it refurbed?

[Mark_Hardware]

dude just go to www.ibuypower.com! its all ready to go and you can get a monitor on the website too.

what tha duece? for some reason the thought of processed meat product in a can comes to mind....

[slaveofconvention]

Pork roll? Chipped Beef? Corned Beef? hmmm - no idea what you mean :rolleyes:

[Zephik]

I think the sale ended on that HP. It was $700. Damn. oh well.

I'd recommend building your own. Cheaper and you get exactly what you want. For $1300 you could build one badass rig.

[y4na]

I thought of iBuyPower but it's over priced fo sho.

[y4na]

My recommendation, wait a week ;)

For the i5?

[knowledgegranted]

Wait 'till Q4 of this year, I'm feeling a brink in the technology soon. (At least thats what my sources tell me :P)

[199Crazy]

intel core i7 machine u can add monitor!
1. http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Configurators.aspx?mid=444
2. http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Configurators.aspx?mid=405

amd phenom II X4 also can add monitor!
1. http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Configurators.aspx?mid=416
2. http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Configurators.aspx?mid=185
3. http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Configurators.aspx?mid=184

[mtekk]

For the i5?


Well, yes that is the first reason to wait a week. The Core i5/i7 on LGA 1156 with the P55 chipset should be launched tomorrow evening at an Intel press conference.

The second reason is that AMD/ATI has a press meeting on September 10th in San Francisco. The agenda, according to the guys at SemiAccurate is the "Evergreen" launch (Radeon 5000 series).

Nvidia also has an event on the 10th, some speculate it's on GT300, but no one is expecting to see anything, volume wise on it until Q1 2010 (supposedly it's a >500mm^2 chip on the TSMC 40nm process, it's big, it's hot, and it'll fail early due to mechanical stress).

So, next week we should see massive price drops in all LGA775 stuff, older Core i7's (920 in particular), the Radeon 4000 series, and in a few weeks the GTX200 parts should drop in price to become competitive with the 5870 and 5850 (once they hit the market, of course, but that will be before October).

Personally, I'd wait until October 22nd, at that time you'll actually be able to get the new hardware coming out in the next week, and Windows 7 will be available.

[y4na]

Well, yes that is the first reason to wait a week. The Core i5/i7 on LGA 1156 with the P55 chipset should be launched tomorrow evening at an Intel press conference.

The second reason is that AMD/ATI has a press meeting on September 10th in San Fransisco. The agenda, according to the guys at SemiAccurate is the "Evergreen" launch (Radeon 5000 series).

Nvidia also has an event on the 10th, some speculate it's on GT300, but no one is expecting to see anything, volume wise on it until Q1 2010 (supposedly it's a >500mm^2 chip on the TSMC 40nm process, it's big, it's hot, and it'll fail early due to mechanical stress).

Personally, I'd wait until October 22nd, at that time you'll actually be able to get the new hardware coming out in the next week, and Windows 7 will be available.

Hmmmm, I'll think about this.

[199Crazy]

well if u want hyper threading? go i7 or phenom II! but if not go ahead with the i5. i5 has no hyper threading. hey but if u want to build ur oun with a p55 chip set, MSi made a cool mobo with a one button OC called the "OC Genie" and u can tune it while the computer is on and it will change instantly in Cpu-Z. that is something they should bring to the x58 ship set!

[crenn]

Phenom or any AMD CPU doesn't have hyper threading or anything like it. There is actually only 1 core i5 CPU currently and it doesn't have hyperthreading. The LGA-1156 i7s do however.

[y4na]

well if u want hyper threading? go i7 or phenom II! but if not go ahead with the i5. i5 has no hyper threading. hey but if u want to build ur oun with a p55 chip set, MSi made a cool mobo with a one button OC called the "OC Genie" and u can tune it while the computer is on and it will change instantly in Cpu-Z. that is something they should bring to the x58 ship set!

So what does hyperthreading do?

[mtekk]

So what does hyperthreading do?

OK, so the following were released today:

The Core i5 750 - 2.66Ghz, Quad core, no Hyperthreading - 210USD

The Core i7 850 - 2.8Ghz, Quad core, Hyperthreading - 300USD

The Core i7 860 - 2.93Ghz, Quad core, Hyperthreading - 580USD

These are all on the LGA 1156 socket, yes there are Core i7s on LGA 1156 :dead:

The prices are the Newegg ones, it'll take a while for things to settle down a bit. Again, I wouldn't buy anything right now as prices will fluctuate and settle down after the initial buy rush is over.

[199Crazy]

noo amd does have hyperthreading! mine does!

[y4na]

noo amd does have hyperthreading! mine does!

But what does it do?

[stewart123]

I would stay away from the green drives to run the OS on if you want performance. I believe most of the are 5400 rpm....great for massive storage though. I have a Tb and love it.

[Mark_Hardware]

I have a WD green drive, and honestly, I don't notice any hit in performance. I mean, maybe if I tried, and really put it through it's paces, sure.... But for everyday use its just fine.

[mtekk]

noo amd does have hyperthreading! mine does!

Either you're being sarcastic or you are mistaking HyperTransport for Hyper Threading.

HyperTransport is the point to point interconnect that AMD uses to communicate between CPUs in a multi chip system, and between a CPU and "North bridge" chipset. Intel's answer to HyperTransport is QPI on the LGA 1366 Core i7s and on the Xeon server lines.

Hyper Threading, known also as SMT (simultaneous multi threading), is a technique that allows one physical core run "two" process threads at a time. It works off the principle that some threads only use part of the processor (whether it is the FPU or other parts). Since some silicon is sitting idle, a second thread could be executed on the idle part of the chip. Note that this only yields performance gains if the two threads use different parts of the chip, otherwise the second thread is halted until the first is done with execution, causing a performance hit. Newer operating systems, including Windows 7, will not put a thread on a virtual processor (the one hosted on the Hyper Threading logic) if there is a performance hit in doing so. Intel introduced Hyper Threading in the Pentium 4 to make up for it's increasingly long execution pipeline. They then revived it for the Core i7 line. Sun's SPARC T1 supports SMT as well. AMD, as of now, does not have a chip with SMT. And, ironically, AMD was going to introduce a function that allows to cores execute one thread faster than a single core executing it.

[y4na]

So should I be looking at an AMD or Intel? Would I get better performance with a $230 AMD processor or a better performance with a $230 Intel processor?

[199Crazy]

u right its hypertransport

[Mark_Hardware]

So should I be looking at an AMD or Intel? Would I get better performance with a $230 AMD processor or a better performance with a $230 Intel processor?

Really, AMD is the way to go for a budget build. Yeah, there are cheap Intel processors, and quite frankly I typically prefer Intel, but if the money is tight I recommend AMD.

Not tryin to start an Intel vs. AMD war here ppl