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Zephik
10-07-2009, 04:01 PM
http://gizmodo.com/5376253/dell-adamo-xps-first-look-so-thin-it-could-slice-a-macbook-air-in-half

http://www.engadget.com/2009/10/07/dell-announces-updated-adamo/

It's half as thick as the macbook air and is about as thick as an iPod Touch. That's impressive as hell and all, but c'mon, really? lol

It'll be more under-powered than a netbook and it will cost $5000. You just wait and see.

Luke122
10-07-2009, 04:30 PM
http://www.notebooks.com/2009/09/09/dell-adamo-xps-a-9-99mm-thick-concept-notebook/

Early votes say "not an atom", but we'll see. Also, expected price is around $2499 according to a few diff sites I've seen.

FuzzyPlushroom
10-07-2009, 04:40 PM
You'll probably be able to break it by simply bending it. Is that okay?

No, it's not.

I'm keeping my nigh-indestructible (except for the hinges) eight-pound Inspiron 9400, Dell. Thank you.

Zephik
10-07-2009, 04:52 PM
I'm keeping my nigh-indestructible (except for the hinges) eight-pound Inspiron 9400, Dell. Thank you.

I'll see your Dell Inspiron 9400 and raise you my Dell Inspiron 9700. :p

These are pretty solid laptops though. Dell sure has come a full turn from what they used to be.

As for the laptop in question... I think it'll be fine. They're more than likely going to use metal and it doesn't take much thickness to make a metal case fairly sturdy. Although, I'd definitely handle it with care anyways. lol

Luke122
10-07-2009, 05:41 PM
The adamo is either aluminum or carbon fiber, or some mix of both IIRC.

Kayin
10-07-2009, 05:47 PM
I'll see your 9700 and raise you a pair of IBM T20s, titanium frame.

I play for keeps on laptops-the main lappy I use is a Toshiba that NOTHING can stop.

Luke122
10-07-2009, 06:07 PM
I raise you a Panasonic Toughbook CF-27.. or I would if I still had it. :P

x88x
10-07-2009, 06:08 PM
I'll see your 9700 and raise you a pair of IBM T20s, titanium frame.

Hells yeah! Thinkpads FTW!

I don't really know what I think about the Adamo XPS. If they actually stick, like, a C2D ULV or something in it, then that will be a very impressive feat. I really can't see how they can make it that thin and still have acceptable thermal dispersal though, which makes me think it'll probably be an Atom (or an ARM. now that would be interesting).

Zephik
10-07-2009, 07:21 PM
They should make an Adamo Netbook that's just as thin as this new notebook is. I hate to say it, but if it was normally priced, I'd probably buy it. There is just something about ultra-thin products that I like, they're very visually pleasing I guess. It's like my Touch, it's not really comfortable to hold compared to the iPhone, but it just looks sooo much better. lol

I guess I'm a form over function kind of guy. Just do me one favor, if I start chanting "Apple" under my breath, take me out back with the shotgun. lmao

x88x
10-07-2009, 07:53 PM
If they did make a netbook that thin, with a normal pricetab (assuming that means <$500), it would snap like a twig. I guarantee you that a large chunk of the cost of the Adamo XPS will be the (presumably) milled aluminum chassis. Personally I would have gone with carbon fibre, but hey, I didn't design the thing. :P

simon275
10-07-2009, 10:28 PM
I have a couple of thinkpads and I love them such solid builds.

That laptop is so thin. I wonder what cpu it is using maybe an atom or an arm core?

Luke122
10-07-2009, 11:16 PM
I doubt that Dell would go Arm for that. It's an XPS, so if it is an Atom, that would be a serious disappointment.

I personally love the design of the thing... even the regular Adamo is hella sexy.

Dell has a Latitude Z which is ultra thin/light too, look that one up. I priced one out today, and it came to $3500 or something.. yoiks.

Kayin
10-08-2009, 12:03 AM
Intel CULV processor, Core 2 Solo.

Single task semi-monster. Not too shabby. Might actually be pretty nice.

x88x
10-08-2009, 01:07 AM
Intel CULV processor, Core 2 Solo.

That sounds about right. Did they finally release specs?

mDust
10-08-2009, 01:41 AM
I foresee Dell denying warranty claims due to slight gusts of wind throwing this thing to the ground. Don't sneeze or cough around it!

Zephik
10-08-2009, 02:14 AM
It's okay, it'll just float to the ground like a leaf if it does get blown away. :p

I can not wait to see the reviews on this thing. You just know that there is going to be extensive testing of the build quality. I suspect we're going to see a bunch of laptops broken in half with a note saying "well, naturally, the first stress test we did was trying to flex it and yep, sure enough, snapped in two like a potato chip". lol in all seriousness though, it should be pretty interesting. I wonder if they'll use a special plastic or metal to make it more durable? It doesn't seem like the normal blend of either would be strong enough, I don't think even aluminum would be strong enough? Maybe... but maybe they'll do something cool like carbon fiber or a titanium mixture or something.

Edit: Oh dear god, I just had a great idea! Lets get one to review and tie a bunch of strings to it and give it a tail... like.. you know, a kite. Anyone live somewhere where it's constantly really windy?? hahaha that would be THE BEST youtube video ever! I'm just picturing seeing someone fly a laptop in the air as a kite, that's ridiculously hilarious. I wonder if it would work if it was windy enough? lol

Luke122
10-08-2009, 12:37 PM
Add the Dell "Complete Care" warranty to your order. I've put that one everything I've ever bought from Dell, and it's ALWAYS worth the extra money.

I had a coworker toss a 4" water valve onto his desk, and oops, his Inspiron was under the papers. Completely crushed the notebook. I pulled the hdd, grabbed his data, phoned Dell, and they overnighted a new one. Old hdd tested fine, so I tossed it in the new notebook, and we sent the old one back.

A friend bought an Inspiron 9700 (I think.. maybe a 6400.. huge anyways) with the 17" screen. They did the complete care for 3 years, and their 2 year old has destroyed that laptop half a dozen times. It's been replaced every time with no questions asked. I'm sure they are the exception to the average user, but still.. worth the $300 extra if you ask me.

Luke122
10-08-2009, 12:43 PM
Dell's current Adamo (not the XPS) has these specs:
1.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Processor with Centrino technology
Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium 64 bit
4GB 800MHz DDR3 dual-channel memory3
256GB4 solid state drive

Now this is the thicker one (.65"), not the new ultra thin one that's just being teased. I'm still hopeful that they'll manage this CPU at least.

Luke122
10-08-2009, 12:44 PM
Lastly, this is the current Latitude Z.

http://www1.ca.dell.com/ca/en/business/Laptops/laptop-latitude-z/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-latitude-z&s=bsd&cs=cabsdt1&~ck=mn

x88x
10-08-2009, 12:48 PM
Well, it'll definitely have an SSD, though I'm thinking 64GiB is more likely; It'll probably have either fully integrated RAM or a single soDIMM, so you could get 4GiB, but it'll be stupidly expensive (wait, sorry, forgot what we were talking about for a sec :P ). As for the CPU, I think Kayin's probably right about a CULV Core 2 Solo; anything more than that I don't think would be able to be cooled properly. Oh, and it won't have Vista; it's probably not gonna be released before the 22nd, so it'll have 7.

Zephik
10-08-2009, 03:52 PM
Is there such thing as a laptop that is under an inch but also under a grand?? I hate that every time I see a super thin notebook I already know I'll never be able to afford it. lol

Luke122
10-08-2009, 03:59 PM
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX24416(ME).aspx

Asus 1008HA - 1" thick, $400 CAD.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4824200&csid=ITD&body=MAIN#detailspecs

Lenovo U350 Ideapad - .7"-1" Thick - $650 CAD

x88x
10-08-2009, 04:05 PM
Is there such thing as a laptop that is under an inch but also under a grand?? I hate that every time I see a super thin notebook I already know I'll never be able to afford it. lol

Define 'laptop'. There are a few netbooks available, and a few sub-notebooks that you can get under $1k from an outlet or similar. I haven't seen any full-size (ie, >= 14") laptops thinner than 1" and under $1k.

Luke122
10-08-2009, 04:08 PM
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=927

Have a browse here..

Zephik
10-08-2009, 04:37 PM
Well hey, look at that! There are affordable notebooks that are under a grand. They aren't quite as sexy as the Air or the Adamo though. But hell, good enough. lol

I'll probably go with a Netbook though. The price is just too good for what I need out of a portable computer. I'll just have to buy a 360 or something if I ever want to get GTA IV. But I'm thinking either the 1008HA (http://www.amazon.com/1008HA-Seashell-10-1-Inch-Pearl-Netbook/dp/B0029QMDZI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1255033688&sr=8-1) or the 1005HA (http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-1005HA-VU1X-BK-10-1-Inch-Black-Netbook/dp/B002DYIXN2/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1255033688&sr=8-10). Quite a large price difference there and it seems like the 1005HA is better? The wacky world of netbooks I guess. lol

Edit: The 1008HA is half an inch thinner than the 1005HA. However, looking at the pictures, it seems like the feet on the 1008HA (http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/2035/eeepc1005havseeepc1008h.jpg) makes it basically the same as the 1005HA. In short; the 1005HA is the better deal unless you are obsessed with getting the "technical" inch thickness. Although like I said, with the feet, it's really not an inch.

Luke122
10-22-2009, 05:25 PM
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2354599,00.asp

There we go!

Launch price is supposed to be $2k

http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/21/0,1425,sz=1&i=214920,00.jpg

Oneslowz28
10-22-2009, 06:44 PM
Yea I dont see any breakage problems with that.

Luke122
10-22-2009, 07:12 PM
Me neither! Aluminum chassis.. should be plenty tough.

The people who are going to buy this are hopefully smart enough to realize it's limitations, and be somewhat careful about usage and care.

The price tag should limit the clientele a bit.
:D

Zephik
10-22-2009, 08:43 PM
Ugly. The design doesn't seem very practical either, at least, I'd rather have a normal design than that. In other words, give me a macbook air any day.

Edit: Pretty sure that design would be painful on the old wrists, no? It doesn't look like it would be fun to use on your lap either.

x88x
10-22-2009, 10:31 PM
Ugly. The design doesn't seem very practical either, at least, I'd rather have a normal design than that. In other words, give me a macbook air any day.

Edit: Pretty sure that design would be painful on the old wrists, no? It doesn't look like it would be fun to use on your lap either.

Agreed. I definitely would not want to use it on my lap...or on any surface for an extended period of time...unless I had an external keyboard, but that would kinda defeat the purpose.

EDIT: except for the Macbook Air stuff...personally I don't like that either :P

mDust
10-23-2009, 12:55 AM
The people who are going to buy this are hopefully smart enough to realize it's limitations, and be somewhat careful about usage and care. You mean 'careful' like not leaning it over the edge of a table like in the pic?:D Is that '1990 Beige', or just the lighting?
I understand it's got to be hard to design style into something that extremely thin, but it looks like they entirely skipped the 'add style step'.

Luke122
10-23-2009, 12:29 PM
Just the lighting as far as I can tell; all the product shots I've seen of this show the casing as brushed aluminum. :)

Leaning it over the edge of the table like that.. well, I'm pretty sure that it's being displayed by someone standing behind it. The rest of the shots show two people sitting at a table with it, so that was likely just a pose to show it off.

Luke122
10-23-2009, 12:34 PM
As for using it on your lap, I bet it would be MORE comfortable than a standard laptop, just due to the airflow under it preventing it from heating up too much.

It looks like the majority of the components are in the base of the screen, and it's just the keyboard that folds down. I think it's a pretty slick idea !

http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zive.cz%2Fclanky%2Fdell-adamo-xps-video-a-fotky-nejtenciho-notebooku-na-svete%2Fsc-3-a-149431%2Fdefault.aspx&sl=auto&tl=en&history_state0=

More pics and vids!

x88x
10-23-2009, 02:07 PM
It's not the comfort that I'd be worried about (it doesn't weigh enough for the limited surface contact to be a comfort problem); what I'd be worried about it the stupid thing falling over backwards :P They shoved all the components into the panel with the display, so all of the weight is there too; unless they added extra weight in the keyboard panel, I can only imagine that it would be crazy unstable even on a perfectly level surface.

Luke122
10-23-2009, 02:22 PM
Based on the thickness of the display, and where it gets thicker at the bottom, I'd guess that it's definitely bottom heavy. It's hard to say for sure without getting your hands on one, but kudos to Dell for throwing convention out the window and designing something f*cking bonkers.

Would I own it? Hard to say.. the thin/light appeals to me, but the relatively low battery life and lack of optical drive/gpu power is less appealing. But really, I still think this is aimed at the "stylista" type user, who's more wowed by design than performance.

mDust
10-23-2009, 03:29 PM
lol, I didn't know it didn't have an ODD! How convenient! :down: Does Apple's? I'd be so pissed if I didn't have another computer to make ISOs...my opinion of it just went from 'ugly' to 'garbage'. For 2 grand I hope Dell doesn't leave everyone hanging and includes an external ODD.

Luke122
10-23-2009, 05:58 PM
Who knows if they'll include it an external ODD or not..

Like I said above, this is really aimed at people who value design and form over all else. I think it's hella cool, I'd own one if I could afford it. I know it's not powerful, or a gaming machine or whatever.

You pull this thing out at a meeting, set it up on a desk and run a powerpoint on it, and you've got peoples attention. :)

x88x
10-23-2009, 06:05 PM
You pull this thing out at a meeting, set it up on a desk and run a powerpoint on it, and you've got peoples attention. :)

Yup, you'd get my attention; and you'd probably convince me that you were someone who valued shiny over function, and I probably shouldn't listen to your proposal ;p ...unless you were my boss, in which case I would think it was a cool toy :whistler:

I think you're definitely right though; this thing is much more about attention than anything else...also, that's why people will buy it.

mDust
10-23-2009, 06:48 PM
Like I said above, this is really aimed at people who value design and form over all else. I think it's hella cool, I'd own one if I could afford it. I know it's not powerful, or a gaming machine or whatever.Those are usually the same people that aren't computer literate...I can hear the customer support lines ringing off the hook now...'Where does the DVD go?'

I know optical disk technology will die at some point, but we're nowhere near that point yet. A gigantic percentage of commercial software is only available on optical disks. I wonder if Dell thought about that?:think:

slaveofconvention
10-23-2009, 06:55 PM
Course they did - they'll quite happily sell you an overpriced similarly styled USB optical drive, I'm sure heh

Luke122
10-23-2009, 07:03 PM
Yup, you'd get my attention; and you'd probably convince me that you were someone who valued shiny over function..

..or someone who would rather carry a light laptop than a heavy one. Its plenty powerful for office duties.. why bother carrying around more than you need?
As for whether or not they thought about the customers demand for optical media... ask Apple. ;)