No signal?

[Locum51]

I started up Archangel...everything turns on (HSF, and other fans) and i can hear the hard drive boot but that's about it. The monitor turns on then says no signal.:facepalm: The led on the mobo blinks. I've already tried taking out the vga cable and reinstalling it. :?

[x88x]

Is there onboard video on the MBB? If so it's probably defaulting to that.

[Locum51]

Yea, onboard Radeon HD 4200.

[x88x]

Try plugging the monitor into that instead. If that works, then go into the BIOS, and there should be a settings somewhere to use the PCIe slot as the primary output.

[Locum51]

I'll try it! Thanks for the help! :D

[Locum51]

I tried with a video card and the onboard video, it's not the monitor because i'm using it right now with the family computer.
The led on the MBB blinks when it's on.
And when i press the reset button the led turns off and then starts blinking again.

One thing that i have to change is the ODD, the activity led stays on all the time, when i press the eject button it doesn't do anything.

[x88x]

hmmm, sounds like it's hanging on the early boot sequence... do you have a system speaker hooked up? If not, try hooking one up and see if it gives you any beeps. Sounds like you might have some bad RAM.

[gaz_the_chav]

hmmm, sounds like it's hanging on the early boot sequence... do you have a system speaker hooked up? If not, try hooking one up and see if it gives you any beeps. Sounds like you might have some bad RAM.

Indeedy - get a system speaker on there and it sound give you a pattern of long and sort beeps to identify the problem.

-gaz

[Locum51]

I tried booting up with both headphones and speaker's plugged in and i can't hear any beeps...i had both of them at full volume.

[Trace]

It's a separate speaker from those--its a header on the motherboard that you need to connect a speaker into.

[x88x]

/\ This. It's in the same block as the power button and stuff, and the MBB may have come with one that you can plug in.

[Locum51]

Yea, i think i could try that. I also tried booting it out of case and same thing....no signal.

[Luke122]

Are you using the vga or dvi input on the monitor? Some monitors are not auto switching, and need to be manually told which input to check.

Second, can you boot the system with the video card not inserted, and the monitor attached to the onboard video port?

Last, have you tried reseating the ram?

[Locum51]

Yea, it's vga only on the monitor.
I tried a couple times with onboard and nothing happened.
I checked the MBB to see if it was bad and it beeped when i took out the RAM and i have tried to check if the DIMM slots were bad but still no signal.

[x88x]

I checked the MBB to see if it was bad and it beeped when i took out the RAM and i have tried to check if the DIMM slots were bad but still no signal.

Sorry if this sounds insulting, but the wording here freaked me out...you turned off the system, took the RAM out, then when you powered it back on it beeped, right? ..because that's totally not what it sounded like the first time I read it...


If the MBB does the RAM beep with no RAM, but not with the RAM you have, it's probably not the RAM.

I should have suggested this first, but try taking out everything except for the MBB, CPU, and RAM, and see if it works. If it does, add things till it doesn't. Specifically I'm wondering what it does without the video card in there.

Also, does the MBB have an error-code LED thing on it? If so, that would be very helpful in pinpointing the error.

[Locum51]

Sorry for the wording...but the only thing i can think of that might be something is that the MBB led blinks when the RAM is in.
But when the RAM is not in it does not, it is a constant no blinking.

Yes i've tried using just the essentials and still nothing.
I've tried using the video card and nothing happened.
I've switched to the onboard and still nothing.
I've cleared CMOS settings with the battery and the switch...nothing.
I checked the processor for any bent pins and it's perfect but still no signal.

PSU maybe? 400w may not be enough?

[x88x]

Sorry for the wording...but the only thing i can think of that might be something is that the MBB led blinks when the RAM is in.
But when the RAM is not in it does not, it is a constant no blinking.

Ah, ok. Yeah, it's just that the first time I read your first post about pulling out the RAM it sounded like you pulled out the RAM while it was running and then it started beeping :P (worst thing is I've actually seen someone try to do that :facepalm: )

400W should be plenty. At this point, my thought is that the MBB is bad.

[Locum51]

Wow, yea i wouldn't try pulling the RAM out while it was running. haha.

Yea, i thought 400w would be plenty too. The MSI tech said that i should have at least 450w with at least 18A for it to be stable and i was like what?
I'm thinking i should RMA it.

[x88x]

Well, I can kinda see where the tech was going, and more is always better...400W is more than enough, especially with the video card out. According to the OuterVision PSU calculator, without the video card, your system should only need a 144W PSU. I forget what the GPU you got was, but I seem to remember it was upper Radeon 4000 series? With a 4870, it says you only need a 261W PSU. Granted, I like to always add an additional 20-30% onto these estimates, but 400W should be more than enough for your system, especially with a high quality PSU like yours.

If the PSU were dead nothing would happen when you tried to power it on, so I'm pretty sure it's not that. Really, the more I think about it, the more I think it's the MBB that's bad. Either that, or the BIOS version on the board doesn't support your CPU. Check with MSI on that, and if it is supported, I would say the MBB is bad.

EDIT:
Just thought of this, but make sure all the additional power connectors are hooked up (ie, 4 or 8 pin CPU power, etc). It shouldn't do anything at all if they aren't plugged in, but just to make sure.

[Locum51]

All connections were quadruple checked...it was plugged in. I think i'm gonna switch to a 785GM-E65 which supports my CPU.

Correct me if i'm wrong but i don't see my board on this list for CPU support list: 785GTM-E45 http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=cpuform2

[x88x]

Yeah, it's there. I would contact MSI and make sure that the BIOS version that you have supports it; it may have been added after your board was flashed. There should be a sticker on the BIOS chip that'll tell you the firmware version.

If it's not supported on your current BIOS version, you could RMA the board or get a new BIOS chip from somewhere like BIOSman (http://www.bioschip.com/replacement.htm) (I've had good experience with them) with the latest firmware.

[Locum51]

I thought about it and i'm probably just going to keep the MBB and use a different processor with it...that or sell it on ebay. I'll probably be going with a AM3 mobo like the MSI 790FX-GD70 or something a lil cheaper but still good.

[Locum51]

Wow, totally just realized that i have the wrong type of ram.

4GB PC2-5300 Parity REG CL5 240-Pin 2 pcs/Kit

[x88x]

doh! Yeah, registered RAM won't work on a board that doesn't support it.

[Locum51]

I was like wow, i am so stupid i was running around like a chicken with it's head cut off...and one little thing such as this that i didn't notice.