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richmandudeus
02-21-2006, 09:13 PM
Now that Project: Elcucu is finished i thought i would take a crack at a mouse mod. Nothing new and inspiring, just another mouse mod. I had this 5 button optical mouse just lying around collecting dust so why not give it a shot.

Polystyrene strips, fan, and mouse
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/m1.JPG
Mouse stripped
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/m2.JPG
stuff in the way
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/m3.JPG
that's better
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/m4.JPG
prepped, sanded, and ready for teeth
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/m5.JPG
teeth
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/m6.JPG
jaw
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/m7.JPG
workin the skull
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/m8.JPG
damn side buttons, oh well
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/m9.JPG
and what i'm left with for now
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/m10.JPG

Still needs plenty of shaping and gonna start the bondo work soon. The fan was to big to clear so i'm gonna have to pick up something a bit smaller. I was gonna make it a normal skull but then it would have this line going down it's face for the buttons and scroll so i thought a cyclops would be more appropriate. I've never used polystyrene before and i'm ammazed at how eazy it is to flex and shape. Well that's it for now... i'll get to work on it tomorrow... maybe:p.

Aero
02-21-2006, 09:23 PM
lol, thats lookin sweet. I can just imagine a little kid getting freaked out about the mouse biting its hand.

jdbnsn
02-21-2006, 11:51 PM
Hey, that's pretty cool and very creative work with the polystyrene. Great job so far!
Jon

Rankenphile
02-22-2006, 12:41 AM
Hahahaha, that's awesome!

Nice work. How long did it take you to get that far?

richmandudeus
02-22-2006, 02:51 AM
Hahahaha, that's awesome!

Nice work. How long did it take you to get that far?

about 1 hour. that stuff is really easy to work with. heats up fast to bend, easiest sand job i've ever done (with dremel:p). leaves a mess everywhere.

Rankenphile
02-22-2006, 12:34 PM
Awesome, nice job, Rich.

I love working with poli. What thickness is it, and how much did you get it for?

Again, even though I say it all the time, you can get big sheets of a harder version of this stuff from sign printers for cheap, sometimes free, if you ask them. They call it Cintra, usually, and they often have huge scrap sheets laying around left over from old jobs. I highly recommend stopping by and asking a local printer for some. There are about a half-dozen sign printers within 10 minutes of my work, so I tend to make the rounds about every six months and get at least a dozen big pieces or so, usually for free. It is usually 1/8" thick, and only a little harder than standard poli, very easy to cut and bend, and just a ton of fun to work with.

crazybillybob
02-22-2006, 12:52 PM
Awesome, nice job, Rich.

I love working with poli. What thickness is it, and how much did you get it for?

Again, even though I say it all the time, you can get big sheets of a harder version of this stuff from sign printers for cheap, sometimes free, if you ask them. They call it Cintra, usually, and they often have huge scrap sheets laying around left over from old jobs. I highly recommend stopping by and asking a local printer for some. There are about a half-dozen sign printers within 10 minutes of my work, so I tend to make the rounds about every six months and get at least a dozen big pieces or so, usually for free. It is usually 1/8" thick, and only a little harder than standard poli, very easy to cut and bend, and just a ton of fun to work with.


Just to point out one thing.....Cintra is PVC Poly is polystyrene.... there a little diffirent.

The Cintra you can glue with standard PVc pipe glue (if your glueing it to more Cintra) and some times doesn't hold well with other glues. Poly can be glued with CA (super glue), or Epoxy. I belive that Cintra is made up of three layers the outer layers are solid sheets of PVC, the core ind "Expanded PVC", so it's kinda like plywood. With that said there both real easy to work with. Just don't over heat the PVC stuff cause when it burns (even a very little) it releases toxic gases that just aren't good for you!


Good Work on tha Mousey!!! I like working with Poly too, it's so easy to make it look like you want!

Crazybillybob

richmandudeus
02-22-2006, 01:14 PM
Awesome, nice job, Rich.

I love working with poli. What thickness is it, and how much did you get it for?

It's a quarter inch thick and the white sheet i'm working on in the pics is the polystyrene sheet i got. it was only about 50cents so i thought that was a good deal. Thanx for all the kudos folks. i wish i was like most of you guys who can stay home and do this stuff all day. Unfortunately i'm in the rat race myself.

richmandudeus
02-22-2006, 04:01 PM
I have a question about circuitry. How can i hook up the fan and 2 led's to the mouse? I understand how to hook up the fan but am not sure if the led's would be a problem. I know nothing of resistors so please 'dumb' things down a bit;).

public_eyesore
02-22-2006, 05:17 PM
nice, looks like this will be sweet, but why is it called cyclops?

richmandudeus
02-22-2006, 05:26 PM
nice, looks like this will be sweet, but why is it called cyclops?

Because it only has one eye socket and the eye will be the scroller.

crazybillybob
02-22-2006, 06:19 PM
http://www.fccmonline.com/LanImages/R2/thumbs/LEDparrl_thm.jpg (http://www.fccmonline.com/LanImages/R2/LEDparrl_big.jpg)

Click on the thimbnail for bigger pic (page loads faster this way).


Is something like this what your looking for ?

The resistor value you need is about 1ohm (Brown Black)

Instead of hooking them to the molex connector like the diagram says (I made it for someone that was tieing into the molex) hook it to the same place as you would the fan.

Good Luck,
Crazybillybob

Vaantal
02-22-2006, 10:48 PM
This mouse it gonna be great. I have a few mice and keyboards sitting around. Once I finish MetropolisRED I hope I can come up with as creative an idea as your's for a mouse. Simply super cool:D

richmandudeus
02-23-2006, 12:56 AM
This mouse it gonna be great. I have a few mice and keyboards sitting around. Once I finish MetropolisRED I hope I can come up with as creative an idea as your's for a mouse. Simply super cool:D

Well most of my insperation was from Paul's Alien fossil mouse (http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/index.php?module=htmlpages&func=display&pid=8) mod. I wanted to make a skull for a while but since they don't make any hobby skulls the size of a mouse, i had to improvise. Thanx for the kudos:D.


Side note: The damn fan didn't clear by about 1/12 of an inch "doh:mad:". Now i have 2 options.
1: chuck the fan idea and just put led's in there
2: reposition the fan to the top of the mouse and try and put some kind of tunnel leading the air out of the mouth

I think i'll go for option 2 but it's gonna take a lot longer for me to get done. 'sigh'

richmandudeus
02-23-2006, 09:11 PM
btw: thanx crazybillybob for the info on led's. that helps tons.

Here an update... well the pics say enough.

what im working with... (except the mesh is finished already)
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/m11.JPG

My bondo aplicator 5000 (melted and flattened Qtip:p)
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/m12.JPG

It's comming alive with flesh... ruuuuuun (good ol bondo)
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/m13.JPG

A few pics of shaping it up
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/m14.JPG
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/m15.JPG
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/m16.JPG

damn i forgot to take pics of the 'after sanding' it, oh well here it is primered for now. I might still work on shaping it and cleaning it up so this probably won't be the first time it is primered. (sorry if it's blurry)
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/m17.JPG

Still got quite a bit to do but i'm just taking my sweet ass time on it. I also still have that fan problem i mentioned earlier so i have to figure that out as well.

Thanx for dropping by.

fobnicat
02-23-2006, 09:51 PM
I know this is not the place to be spending alot of time talking about LED's but aafter seeing your diagram above I was a little confused... I understand what a curcuit is and how it works.. (although I do not claim to be fluent with electrical jabber i know very little about transistor, resistors and blah blah blah..) My question is why is the resistor AFTER the LEDS in the curcuit? Maybe someone can start a thread, or maybe there is one, or maybe someone jsut has a link for LED curcuits for dummies... Thanks guys..

But I guess I should add that this mouse is gonna look awesome.. Maybe I should make one to keep my little cousin off my dang computer.. if he is scared of the mouse, maybe he will stay away..

Rankenphile
02-24-2006, 12:24 AM
resistor goes before the LEDs, and the LEDs only work one way, so get a "breadboard", or testing circuit, to make sure that you get it right before you start soldering.

If memory serves, the longer leg on the LED goes first, on most LEDs.

crazybillybob
02-24-2006, 10:49 AM
My question is why is the resistor AFTER the LEDS in the curcuit?

I've had this asked before. Here's the Short answer. In the Drawing I posted The Resistor is on the GND - Side of the LED. While it would still work on the + 5V side, that's not the proper placement. See Contraty to how we think, the Current in a Curcuit flows from GND - to + not + to -.....(basicly the first guy that made the rules about electron flow got it backwards....and we still use those symbols and such today).

As for the thread on Basic LED curcuits......I'll add that to the List of tutorials that I need to write and get up for everyone....(I've got a couple more for here and another site to do yet!)

Crazybillybob

fobnicat
02-24-2006, 01:03 PM
Ok, im greatly confused. Haha. But I trust your word. I'll just keep an eye out for your tutorial. Thanks again guys..

richmandudeus
02-24-2006, 01:15 PM
Should i expect my cyclops to burn? I to am confused... I had found this (http://www.theledlight.com/ledcircuits.html) a while browsing the forums. I don't know what to think anymore lol. I can't even figure out the 4 chords in the mouse that hook up to the usb cause it's not like all other mice. And that's where i wanna get the power from. Oh well i'll figure it out somehow with the help of my TBCS buddies:).

Rankenphile
02-24-2006, 01:38 PM
Rich,

I've played with the insides of a mouse, as well. I'd recommend getting a multimeter, if you don't already have one. You can get one from your local electronics store for about $15 to $20, and are very helpful when doing circuitry work and determining what is doing what.

DaveW
02-24-2006, 04:08 PM
There's a 5 volts line in pin 1 and a GND in pin 4. I'm not sure if that helps but you're probably going to need...ah, i have a better idea. Post the Stats of your LED's and i'll draw you a basic circuit diagram that you can use to work it out. I'll try working out the voltages for you too and leave the calculations in the pic so you can see how i worked it out for next time. ;) I'll check back every couple of hours till sleepytime, so post soon and i'll get to work.

-Dave

richmandudeus
02-24-2006, 06:02 PM
Thanx a bunch for the help dave. I guess my post should be called "cyclops mouse mod and do it yourself led lights". I have 2 sets of red led lights that i would like to use either one.

5000mcd rated 2.4v 20mA (x2)
800mcd rated 1.7v 20mA (x2)

I wouldn't mind using either ones although i preffer the 2.4v. I believe the usb to the mouse is a 5v but i'm not quite sure. I really need to get me a multimeter. Oh yeah and don't forget the fan if you can implement that in there as well. It says it runs at 12v but i clocked it to run at 5v as well when i tried it on another mouse (one where the usb chords are where they say they are). Anywho thanx again for your help and everyone elses.

It's official... "I'M SUCH AN IDIOT, GAWD!!!" ...napoleon dynamite
All this time i've been working on 2 different mice and the port one i've been looking at is a usb but the cyclops one is a regular mouse port. Son of a...
well this is what i have to work with... V G D C
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/port.JPG

DaveW
02-25-2006, 09:29 AM
Allrighty then. Well If it's a standard PS/2 Port then your pins look like:

Pin: SIGNAL NAME:
1 Data
2 Reserved
3 Ground
4 + 5 Volts
5 Clock
6 Reserved
(Thanks to ctips.com (http://www.ctips.com/ps2.html))

So either way, you're working with a 5 volts. It's pin 4 on a PS/2 and it's Pin 1 on a USB. I'm guessing that's the red cable in the picture there, and the ground is the white G wire. D is probably data and C is probably clock.

Right, this diagram isn't the best, but it should get the job done.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/DivW/scan0003.jpg

The LED's should be soldered with the long leg first, that is the long leg should be connected to the 5 volts and the short leg should be connected to the GND.

If you want to look up more on how this works, look up Serial and Parralell in an electric circuit. This shouldn't drop the current to the point where anything stops working, but if that does happen, post back and we can actually re-configure this so that there is more current to different parts. I hope this helps.

Oh, and i can't say for 100% my calculations are correct. I'm thinking they are, so good luck. This is for the 2.4 lights, if you change to the 1.7 lights then just plug 1.7 into the equation instead of the 2.4 and the answer is your new resistance. And if you can't find a 130ohm resistor, then (i think it's 133 or 144 that's the most common) a close resistor is fine. It's not exactly processor technology, so don't worry about cowboying it just a little.

-Dave

richmandudeus
02-25-2006, 12:55 PM
Awesome and easy tutorial Dave. Thanx a bunch for all your help and troubles.

richmandudeus
02-28-2006, 09:41 PM
Alright here's a small update... kinda. I started painting the mouse today. I'm no artist so i understand if people will rag on me about my painting. Give me a break. This is the first time i've ever painted this way let alone mod a mouse.

Painted it black
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/pm1.JPG
What i'm working with... (just acrylic paints)
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/pm2.JPG
First coat of acrylic painting...
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/pm3.JPG
And a bunch of angles of it pretty much done. (until i put in the little details)
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/pm4.JPG
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/pm5.JPG
http://usera.imagecave.com/richdude/cyclopsmouse/pm6.JPG

Tomorrow i will continue with the innards of it all.

"sigh" ... time for a beer.

snickells
02-28-2006, 10:59 PM
That looks hot! Good luck with shoving that fan in there. Perhaps you should look at a sml form fan from a video card or something along those lines... im sure Defiant used one in one of his mods..... HP2?

OvRiDe
03-01-2006, 12:22 AM
I think that paint looks great for the first time or even a 10th time! You got a really kewl mod shaping up there my friend..

Crimson13
03-01-2006, 12:52 AM
wow thats looking really cool i need to take one of my many mice laying around here and do somthing like that to them. i like the fact that i looks like its goint to eat your hand

DaveW
03-01-2006, 07:51 AM
That thing's looking sweet, i don't know if you got my P.M. about the power lines? If not i'll repost it here.

-Dave

Rankenphile
03-01-2006, 01:15 PM
Nice work, Rich! Very good drybrushing work.

Another fan to consider would be one of the small-form fans they use in laptops.

Good luck, and great work.

Custom
03-01-2006, 01:31 PM
Nice I wish I could make stuff like that!

richmandudeus
03-02-2006, 12:07 AM
Finally finished... CHECK IT OUT!!! (http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?p=21923#post21923)

Hasbios
03-03-2006, 08:44 PM
very nice im working on the Alien skelton mouse mod and ive barely got crap done