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Trace
12-05-2009, 03:10 AM
I can not find this one song that I really want, and I suck at transcribing music.

So, if you are able to transcribe music, I would love your help!

I really want the sax solos from Jazzman by Carole King.

Expect as much +rep as I can get to you!

Thanks

Here's the actual song.

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Kayin
12-05-2009, 11:17 AM
This isn't a "smartass comment", especially as I'll try for ya after work, but it's basically altissimo screwing around in key. That's a lot of jazz solos-some only give you a chord progression and say go for it.

Trace
12-05-2009, 02:14 PM
This isn't a "smartass comment", especially as I'll try for ya after work, but it's basically altissimo screwing around in key. That's a lot of jazz solos-some only give you a chord progression and say go for it.

I know, I'm in jazz, but I really love this solo, so if I could learn it Iwould be happy!
And thanks, I'm happy to hear that you will. I've tried, but failed, on many occasions. I believe it's on a tenor sax. By Tom Scott

SgtM
12-05-2009, 07:02 PM
That sounds more like an Alto to me. I never could get that raspy sound out of a sax (I've played Tenor and Bari).

Trace
12-06-2009, 01:30 AM
It's called a growl, and I have been trying to, you have to, as its been explained to me, hum, or growl, a note that is similar in pitch to the note you are playing.

Bopher
12-07-2009, 02:19 AM
Yup, that's an Alto. Played one for years in school. If I still had it I would try for you. All I can give you for some starting points, the Alto music is keyed in E flat if I remember right and the jazz scales for it are in the B flat concert scaling. Hopefully I'm not talking out of my rear, it has been a while since I played in the Jazz Band.

SgtM
12-07-2009, 09:58 AM
Bopher's right about Eb and Bb. I wish I had a sax to try that growl technique.

Airbozo
12-07-2009, 12:15 PM
Here is a cheap alternative;
http://www.hammacher.com/Product/74124?promo=search

I have heard one of those and was amazed that it didn't sound like a kids toy. Supposedly it plays similar to a sax, but not sure.

I have played a clarinet for many many years. Alto through bass with the bass being my favorite. You can get that same sound out of a clarinet. Just takes lots of practice.

Trace
12-07-2009, 08:06 PM
Kayin, any luck?

Kayin
12-07-2009, 08:58 PM
That's pretty complex, and to boot I've got four different solo versions here, as well as the fact that they're all rather different-it'll take me a sec.

BTW-for the growl, play a note and hum a semitone apart-play A, hum Ab.

I can play the Bach trombone chorale with well-placed polyphonics, a week of practice, and liberal use of a stroboscopic tuner. It's an uncommon technique that's really fun.

Trace
12-07-2009, 09:00 PM
THanks Dude!

Kayin
12-09-2009, 01:27 AM
OK. This sheet of paper looks like Aphex Twin, and you know what? I think we're still boned. Every version is RADICALLY different, and I grabbed the sheet music-it's just chords. They're gonna take you out back and dump ya on this.

I could play it on any of my instruments, but that's really not gonna help you.

My advice? Grab a recording, some headphones, and a soundproof practice room and wail till you find YOUR groove. This is about personal expression here-copying is not part of this movement.

It's mostly based on a eighth-eighth-sixteenth-sixteenth motif, upswept slur (almost a tone bend) up a full step and then basically double dotted to emphasize, in groups of four or five. He's completely ignoring meter, and everyone else is bowing to him for just about everything else. He's also employing a lot of cross fingerings, he's trying some interesting tonal deals form less-often used fingerings. Also, I think he's trying to make some of this just a bit easier when he just freaks out. I grabbed a live recording as well as the Simpsons episode, and they're all different, with VERY little the same-basically just the key. The best one was arguably the Simpsons, and in that there's both a tenor and an alto soloist, so keep that in mind.

I can try and do a bit more breakdown for you later, but the kids won't stop howling like rock hyraxes right now...

Trace
12-09-2009, 01:47 AM
Alright dude, thanks. If you can get me the chords, thats a start!