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el_magnifico
01-11-2010, 12:34 PM
I have an idea for a case (built from scratch) that will lie flat and be cooled only by air. It should have so much air passing through it that it would be able to do some really good o/c'ing. Just looking at sketchup and i'll try to make up a lil design for it. Oh btw...this would require a custom-made HS and no actual cpu fan.

Edit: Maybe a small cpu fan which would double as a blower to the ram.

Spawn-Inc
01-11-2010, 11:00 PM
where is the air coming from a blower? sounds interesting.

you could get a fanless heatsink like a TRUE or similar.

x88x
01-12-2010, 03:05 AM
Sounds interesting. OOC, are you wanting to do a custom HS just to do a custom HS? Because if not, there are plenty of huge, awesome, fanless CPU, GPU, and NB HSs.

el_magnifico
01-12-2010, 12:50 PM
Well the HS would have to be custom-manufactured...the case would not be a standing case, but would be designed to lie flat....there would be about 5 fans in the front and an equal amount in the "back".....the motherboard would be rotated so that the IO panel would be on one of the "sides".....heatsink should be made of copper and designed to make use of every single inch of free space, contact points for CPU, NB, onboard video and anything else that might require cooling. Yes, it will have a lot of heat pipes and would have to be installed before the MB enters the chassis. The fins would be made in a "wave" pattern, so as to have more "friction" from the air. Since it's a push-pull with so many fans, air pressure won't be an issue. Once again, i need to dive into Sketchup (haven't tried yet...about to...) so as to give an idea of what i want to do.

x88x
01-12-2010, 05:48 PM
Hmm, interesting. How do you plan on making the HS? I'd definitely be interested in seeing that process.

el_magnifico
01-19-2010, 01:40 PM
Ok a small update here...I pretty much got the layout the way I wanted (I believe that there is beauty in simplicity) but the HS is going to be a major pain in the rear....this is the first time I'm using Sketchup and I'm not the kind of guy to read up on stuff before I do it...I'm a trial by fire kinda guy. (funny thing is, I'm also a volunteer fire fighter) So here are a few Sketchup clips for your viewing pleasure...before the elaborate heat sink...Not sure exactly how to post my images, but here's a try!

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5643/tbcs2.jpg
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5643/tbcs2.jpg (http://img25.imageshack.us/i/tbcs2.jpg/)

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6415/tbcs.jpg
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6415/tbcs.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/tbcs.jpg/)

el_magnifico
01-19-2010, 01:41 PM
Hmm, interesting. How do you plan on making the HS? I'd definitely be interested in seeing that process.

The HS would without a doubt need to be custom-manufactured...If I had the patience and the material, I would make it myself...but wow, will it be an intricate one...

el_magnifico
01-19-2010, 01:45 PM
So question to anyone out there that uses Sketchup, is there any way to, say, copy one item in one specific direction (axis) to a specific distance without it snapping to any object or shifting on any other axis? (this would make the HS SOOOOO much easier to design... Thanks in advanced!

Edit: I'm thinking about making the case 1 fan smaller, as there is an amount of unused space in the middle...Maybe not, though, 'cause I might use this space for extra heat fins if I plan on having a video card set up in it...Why overclock if you're gonna use on-board video??? Let me know what you think about that.

Collinstheclown
01-19-2010, 02:25 PM
When you copy the object hover the copy in the same place as the orginal. Then hold shift and that should lock it to the axis.

I could be wrong, I havn't used it in a while.




-CollinstheClown

el_magnifico
01-19-2010, 03:38 PM
When you copy the object hover the copy in the same place as the orginal. Then hold shift and that should lock it to the axis.

I could be wrong, I havn't used it in a while.
-CollinstheClown

Yeah, I've tried this method a few times, but it usually wants to snap to any object or surface that's directly in the sight of the mouse... I'll do some googling and figure it out.

If you (anybody reading this) have ever opened up an XBOX 360, you will have an idea of what I'm doing here...similar idea of using all available space for heat dissipation...

craigr1982
01-19-2010, 04:43 PM
Pretty sure that with Shift held you can then type in a measurement and hit enter which will place it.

Similar to if you make a square and type in the sizes

el_magnifico
01-19-2010, 04:56 PM
Ok...so dragging them very slowly in a very straight line keeps them on the same axis...got another pic of "so far" progress, show some of the heat pipes...




Edit: Sorry for double-posting...my net is actin' up.

el_magnifico
01-19-2010, 05:04 PM
Ok, got a pic here of "so far" progress....turns out that if you "drag-copy" an item moving very slowly and straight, it will most likely stay on the same axis..but it isn't bullet-proof. Here's your pic!

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8095/tbcsmod1.jpg
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8095/tbcsmod1.jpg (http://img215.imageshack.us/i/tbcsmod1.jpg/)

Any feedback on concept would be nice, or tips on how to make the pipes easier....(helluva crapload of work to make one set, but easy to just copy them over to the other sides)


Edit: Keep in mind, this HS will be MASSIVE to take advantage of all that air moving through. No exact thoughts yet on how to attach it to board (something this big, I do not want to rely solely on standard mounts) and I need to think about the structural integrity of the HS...as I do want to make it out of copper, which we all know bends rather easily...

Collinstheclown
01-19-2010, 06:17 PM
For pipes you can draw a line where the center of the pipe would be and draw a circle on the end. Then use the "follow me" tool and drag the circle along the line.

Isn't there a tool for duplicating like that? I don't have it installed currently and am on my way out the door. I'll try later tho for ya'.

I started to design a heatpipe system to replace that crap MS put in the 360. I'll have to look it up, I had 1 of 6 pipes done lol.




-CollinstheClown

el_magnifico
01-19-2010, 06:32 PM
I hope i could figure this out sometime....for now i'm just creating cylinders and simply angling them to where I think they should go...tedious...very tedious

el_magnifico
01-19-2010, 06:37 PM
I started to design a heatpipe system to replace that crap MS put in the 360. I'll have to look it up, I had 1 of 6 pipes done lol.

I've taken apart a few of them....some are better than others...but personally, I would replace them all with copper fins and none of that aluminum crap....I live in tropical Belize...these things overheat wayyyyy too often....my friend kept his in the fridge until i advised him about the hazards of condensation, lol

Collinstheclown
01-19-2010, 10:04 PM
Actually a guy by the name 'DuBob' or something made all copper heatsinks and they ended up only being a degree or so better then alu, but the process to make them wasn't worth it.




-CollinstheClown