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fishies
04-06-2005, 02:39 PM
Now we all know outfitting the workshop can get expensive, if you're like me and need to have all the tools to do the job right, a small fortune in your wrkshop will amass in short order.

Here are some tips to help you decide what to buy and how to buy it:

In Canada, we have Canadian Tire, a general hardware, housewares, and automotive arts retail outlet. Their Mastercraft line of tools are very dependable, and each month, there's always something on sale. Buy your expensive tool purchases on sale, if you can. For example, I bought the Mastercraft 12" drill press, variable seed, etc. normally it's $200.00, but on sale I got it for $145.00. That $55.00 went to other tools.

Don't be afraid of package deals. Black and Decker usually package some of their most common powertools in a very affordable package. Sometimes, you may have one of the tools in the package, but if you're like me, you can never have too many cordless drills.

Most times, the lowest price isn't the best deal. If you're buying screwdrivers, why not go with the cheap ones, but when it comes to any powertools, go with a recognized name. Don't buy the cheap one if you dn't know the company manufacturing it. Chances are, it's cheaper because it's inferior quality.

Buy what you need. Chances are most peole don't need a drillpress or a lathe. If you're going to use it only once, you may want to find smeone who has the tool, and get them to do that part for you. As a last resort, try the yellow pages for a machine shop. Most times you'll find someone to drill out those 4" holes for you for $20.00. Money well spent if that's the only time you'll need the service.

The most important piece of equipment in your workshop are your safety glasses. You'll be wearing these a lot, so make sure they are comfortable. I cannot stress this point enough. This is one thing that you should never be without.

Remember, you're setting up your shop for you, not for the community. Put in there what you need or want. We all have our ideas of the essential tools, but in the end, only you know what you need.

Shop around. When you find what you want, negotiate. Retail is the sucker price. Don't be a sucker. Even $10.00 off a $200.00 item is better than nothing.

Remember, these tools will get you through more than just case modding. If you buy quality tools and take care of them, you'll have them a really long time. For all those youngsters out there: One day you'll probably be a home owner, like myself, and every home owner knows that homes require maintenance and upkeep. Your tools can help you with that too.

All of these points are meant to help you choose the right tools for you. Some points may not apply to your situation, but you'll find there are some that will help. In the end, the most important part is to buy the tools that suit your needs.

Bum
04-06-2005, 11:44 PM
I'd like to throw in two thoughts to fishies' advice on the quality of tool you buy.

First, be honest with yourself about how much you'll use it, now and in the future. If you aren't going to be using it every other day and don't plan to lug it around with you everywhere you move in the next decade, don't spend the money on "professional" level tools. The mid-range tools are good for the occasional user and leave you more money for the little extra touches you might otherwise have to skip due to budget constraint.

Second, if you are the type who will be using your tools constantly and for years and years, do the research and look for something that will not only meet your needs now but in the future when your skills improve. Buy the best quality you can possibly afford and it will only hurt your wallet that one time. Cheap out and you are setting yourself up for frustration in the shop and another purchase further down the road.

ZeD
04-07-2005, 12:19 AM
Remember to know exactly what you want before you hit the store, it's very easy to stroll around the tool dept and walk up to the register with $1000 worth of tools $900 of which you'll use twice if your lucky.

JesDer
04-07-2005, 01:46 AM
walk up to the register with $1000 worth of tools.

Have you been following me around? It wasnt my fault .... I ....

*cry*

I have a problem!!


Honestly .. I dont know what it is, but hardware stores are the worst places. Walk in for a $20 part .. walk out with the $20 part and a few $100 in tools. I actually have told my GF not to let me go to a hardware store without her.

fishies
04-07-2005, 09:10 AM
I have a problem!!


Honestly .. I dont know what it is, but hardware stores are the worst places. Walk in for a $20 part .. walk out with the $20 part and a few $100 in tools. I actually have told my GF not to let me go to a hardware store without her.

The first, and most difficult step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. I applaud you, JesDer. Now, find a T.A. grup (Tools Anonymous) and work that program. ;)

Seriously though, I'm the same way. I can't spend any less than an hour in Home Depot. One time, I came home and there was a police car out front of the house. I walk in to find my wife in hysterics, filling out a missing person's report. Since then, she's stapled the lanyard on my cellhone to my hip, so I can't use the excuse, 'I left the phone in the car.'

I'm like a deer caught in the headlights. It's quite sad, actually.

ZeD
04-07-2005, 10:26 AM
I've gone to the hardware store\home depot\\e.t.c. quite a few times specifically for one thing and one thing only, I'll walk out with 20 things none of which was the thing I needed in the first place.

fishies
04-07-2005, 10:33 AM
I guess you're in the same club as JesDer and I.

It's rare that I can go just to look.

MrSlacker
04-07-2005, 03:57 PM
i dont get it, what can you buy everytime you go there? may be its that i am not old enough to understand, but i dont get it.....

ZeD
04-07-2005, 07:22 PM
i dont get it, what can you buy everytime you go there? may be its that i am not old enough to understand, but i dont get it.....

Tools, you walk past a cool 24v hammer drill and say to yourself holy crap 600lbs of torque! man I could use this. Even though you have 3 drills already. Have you ever gone grocery shopping while hungry and bought a bunch of snacks instead of bread, milk, vegetables? Have you gone to a resteraunt hungry and ordered 2 appetizers, soup, entre and dessert and gotten full not even half way through? same deal here. big eyes.

fishies
04-07-2005, 09:03 PM
Tools, you walk past a cool 24v hammer drill and say to yourself holy crap 600lbs of torque! man I could use this. Even though you have 3 drills already. Have you ever gone grocery shopping while hungry and bought a bunch of snacks instead of bread, milk, vegetables? Have you gone to a resteraunt hungry and ordered 2 appetizers, soup, entre and dessert and gotten full not even half way through? same deal here. big eyes.

Only unlike with overeating, unbuttonning the pants does nothing for the extra tools, except get you odd looks from the staff.

ZeD
04-07-2005, 09:54 PM
But some tools are so sexy you start unbuttoning your pants and then realize that it might not be a good idea to......

modder54321
04-16-2005, 10:38 PM
OMG... you guys are hillarious. :eek:

Really, I'm the same way... I don't know what it is about the big hardware superstores. I went the other day and spent wayyyyyyyyyyy more than I had planned. :? I think I went to get a box of screws and left with like $800 worth of stuff that I probably will never even use.

And dont get me started about the computer stores... can you say "Dog house!!!" :D

Frakk
04-17-2005, 01:04 AM
im planning on a rampage at home depot and canadian tire maybe after I get back from my 2.5 months vacation after summer and start my new box. gosh my bank account is already scared. vacation and tools(lots) dont go together.

ZeD
04-17-2005, 02:39 AM
Frakk, Don't go the way of Modder54321, he needs a 12 step program. When you say summer vacation Im going to assume your a student, without a steady job. Even if you are an adult I would suggest you buy tools as you need them. Don't go buy every tool you see. Wait for sales. You CAN buy certain low quality tools to save some money. For instance a 5spd $40 drill press will serve you just as well as a $1000 54spd floor standing drill press when it comes to modding. A $50 Drill will cut through your case just as well as a $500 Drill (But for a drill stick with a reputable company like DeWalt, Makita, e.t.c.) I think you can follow my advice for the rest of the tools on your list aswell, just follow your best judgement as to what your planning on using the tools for and then you can decide how much you should spend.

Frakk
04-17-2005, 10:31 AM
yes thanks for the advice. I already planned everything out and I dont want to buy top quality of everything. I was thinking about a dremmel kit, the one i could have won, plus some minor tools like a nibbler, rivet gun, wire stripper, sand papers, a vice and things like that. but i will adjust my list to what i need as time goes by :)

ZeD
04-17-2005, 01:11 PM
To save some money you can buy the one model below the XPR, which has teh same features and performance and $20 less, or go a step further and get teh Black & Decker RTX rotary tool, not as fast as teh dremel but the torque more than makes up for it, and its overall a better tool, physically smaller so it fits in your hand better and the switch is within finger reach unlike teh stupid dremel where you need both hands to turn it off.

Frakk
04-17-2005, 08:59 PM
The new dremmel XPR is pretty small, I was holding it the other day. the black & decker looks good too, but im afraid I can't find it here in canada, only if I order it from the US (and pay ****load of extra money on duties and brokerage fees) I'm thinking about the XPR or a cordless dremel, because i doubt i will find a b&d rtx

ZeD
04-17-2005, 10:33 PM
ebay? have the seller ship it FedEx, no fees