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Frenkie
01-24-2010, 07:13 AM
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/logo640.jpg

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Logo-banner0001.jpg

After the succes of my mini-project Hovermax (http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/1375817///hovermax) (fan mod for Enermax) I got the irresistible urge to make a complete mod with the same look-n-feel.
The inspiration for Hovermax and this mod I got from the F117 - Nighthawk
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth-bomber.jpg
to mod a case from the swedish Fractal Design company http://fractal-design.com/ to give it a whole new look.

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Logo/LOGO.jpg
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_080.jpg
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_090.jpg
For the specs of this case, I can point you to the log of my collegue Jos a.k.a. Agressions (http://forum.bouweenpc.nl/topic/9727), who just so happens to have started a mod with the same case.
I made in SketchUp a few rough designs and showed them to the guys at Fractal Design. They were unanimous to pick this one;
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DonT-FeaR
01-24-2010, 11:42 PM
cant wait.

Loki
01-25-2010, 10:38 AM
Just looked at your Hovermax, wonderfull!! Can't wait to see this one!

Could you try moving the base line at the front a couple of cm backwards? I think i'll make the nighthawk look more complete, try breaking the triangle of the front :D

Frenkie
01-26-2010, 04:57 AM
The guys at Fractal Design liked the first sketches, so lets start modding !
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_100.JPG
Started with disassembling the case and also applying the first cut lines.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_101.JPG
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_102.JPG
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_103.JPG
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_104.JPG
Nice doors that hold the dust filters....
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_105.JPG
..but i'm not using these in my design, I need a solid front. Sorry guys !
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_105b.JPG
BTW; this front/top panel is very nice !
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_106.JPG
But it s also NOT included in my design hehehe
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_107.JPG
Very nice multifunctional switch ( would be a waste NOT to use it right ? )
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_108.JPG
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_109.JPG
The chassis underneath the front needs to be cut in the same way.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_111.JPG

artoodeeto
01-26-2010, 03:39 PM
this looks like it'll be pretty darn cool...but I have to admit I envision you hacking away at it with a chainsaw. Not the best for cutting a case up accurately, but man it'd be FUN! :)

silverdemon
01-27-2010, 08:49 AM
Looks nice! Always liked the F117 stealth fighter a lot. I am however very eager to find out how you will cope with the structural integrity of the case, which will be deminished by cutting off almost every corner...

Anyways, can't wait to see more!

Frenkie
01-27-2010, 06:29 PM
So true. But isnt that the name of the game ? I'm never afraid of a bit of a challenge. :)

Mach
01-27-2010, 11:08 PM
I'm never afraid of a bit of a challenge.

And here's my nominee for understatement of the year! ;)

Can't wait to see how you do this!

billygoat333
01-28-2010, 03:38 AM
same here. love Frenkie's mods!

you could always use small diameter pvc or metal tubes for support for the outer framework. (if its even needed)

Waynio
01-30-2010, 11:37 AM
Ohhhh, count me in on a subscription :banana:, massive passion for modding Frenkie and I really like your mods and you do so many, look forward to seeing how this one plays out, bit of an extreme change to the case and yeah you have set the challenge high :), may the force be with you :).

Frenkie
02-10-2010, 03:07 PM
The toppanel also gets a sharp point.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_112.JPG
This is how the sides look like.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_113.JPG
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_114.JPG
Disassembling the drive tower, maybe I can use it still, or at least part of it.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_115.JPG
Aktion shots, yes with my fav plaid work outfit. :) :)
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_116.JPG
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_117.JPG
This piece is going out.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_118.JPG
Talk about a lean design....
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_119.JPG
for the garbage.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_120.JPG

Loki
02-10-2010, 03:24 PM
Don't throw it to the garbage!! It may be usefull later XD

Great... and, you've got some nuts to cut a case like that one...

cellsite60
02-10-2010, 04:27 PM
This looks interesting :)

billygoat333
02-11-2010, 03:51 AM
woah, looks sharp! lol literally. I wouldnt touch it. not without some leather gloves on!

blueonblack
02-11-2010, 06:45 AM
I have to say it takes a certain something to cut a case like that into a shape like that. You're one of the ones that I know can make it work, but... ack!

TheMainMan
02-11-2010, 11:35 AM
Looking forward to seeing how this case turns out! I really like the look of the Fractal Designs case, it's a shame they aren't available in North America yet.

Waynio
02-11-2010, 01:23 PM
^^Agreed, looking forward to what comes next :).
I think anyone who has seen your previous mods, believes YOU can do this Frenkie 8):up:.

Frenkie
02-11-2010, 01:27 PM
Looking forward to seeing how this case turns out! I really like the look of the Fractal Designs case, it's a shame they aren't available in North America yet.

And that Antec case which is almost identical ? Anyway, this is going to be changeling, even for me. But ey; the rest is almost all been done before, right? :banana:

Frenkie
02-15-2010, 05:46 PM
Sawed the frontpanel.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_122.JPG

Mounted both sidepanels.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_123.JPG

To determine the right lines; this measurement from the sidepanel to midpoint.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_124.JPG

Transferred to the X-axis.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_125.JPG

And the Y-axis.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_126.JPG

Gives a nice 45 degree angled line.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_127.JPG

This line goes in the middle of that 45 degree line.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_128.JPG

And here I made a mistake, I toke the middle of the sidepanel as reference.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_129.JPG

Which looked like this.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_130.JPG

But in the end I choose for the original mobo-chassis, which you can see here.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_131.JPG

Here ones more the wrong and the right line.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_132.JPG

Cutted.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_133.JPG

And mounted back to the case.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_134.JPG

cellsite60
02-15-2010, 05:52 PM
This is getting crazier by the minute, love that :)

Waynio
02-15-2010, 09:29 PM
Loving this one, brave daring mod and I have total faith in you being able to do it Frenkie ;).

Frenkie
02-16-2010, 03:06 PM
Thanx guys !

To give you a better insight, here a paint-preview :)
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_136.JPG

These are the lines of the black sheets of Forex hardfoam and the transparant polystyreen.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_137.JPG

There all triangles.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_138.JPG

This would represent some sort of a F117 cockpit look.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_139.JPG

Luke122
02-16-2010, 03:42 PM
Nice!!!!

silverdemon
02-16-2010, 05:08 PM
LOVE the paint-skills :D

oh, love the mod too! good job so far

Loki
02-17-2010, 09:38 AM
Good paint skills!!...
Boy you've got some guts to cut mercilessly that case like that, I'm never going to get tired of saying that :P

And because of that, +rep

XcOM
02-17-2010, 01:08 PM
man yours skills are just scary!

Frenkie
02-22-2010, 06:18 PM
Here is my latest toy. :)
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_140.JPG

Anyway, I riveted the motherboard back to the case.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_141.JPG

Now what motherboard will we choose for this mod... this one is from the FiFo mod, but its way too big.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_142.JPG

This Asus P5KPL mobo, is a lot smaller.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_143.JPG

Or this Sapphire moederbord ( Here with a Spire cooler still on it.)
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_144.JPG

But thanks to my friends at Gigabyte I'm getting a Core I5 GA-P55A-UD5 mobo.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_150.JPG

And the people at Coolermaster provided me with a fat V10 !
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_151.JPG

On the last pix it looked like the boards wont fit, but I measurered it;
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_145.JPG

And enlarged. It fits, but only JUST. ( pfffewww lucky me )
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_147.JPG

The sawed off front ....
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_148.JPG

This is where the first Forex plate is coming.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_149.JPG

Frenkie
02-23-2010, 01:02 PM
And Sapphire was so kind to hand me a HD 5570 !
http://ic.tweakimg.net/ext/i/imagelarge/1265709709.jpeg

billygoat333
02-23-2010, 03:28 PM
effin sweet!

Loki
02-23-2010, 03:45 PM
Congrats, on the sponsored products and on your new machine!!!

Frenkie
03-06-2010, 09:28 AM
Showing off my new sawmachine.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_158.jpg
Guide Aiming Laser FTW!
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_159.jpg
Im building the case up from the rear to the front.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_160.jpg
Piece of cardboard to test my idea
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_161.jpg
Then reproduced it in Forex.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_162.jpg
As added bonus I gave this edge a 45 degree bevel.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_163.jpg
Using black construction kit, I added the first piece to the case, After it hardened, i
noticed that the strength was coming back to the case. Just like i planned it would.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_154.jpg
Now I can determine the exact measuerments for the second piece.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_155.jpg
Three lengths, Three angles, One plate of Forex.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_164.jpg
And there it is.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_156.jpg
The second piece is added.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_157.jpg

Loki
03-06-2010, 11:35 AM
Wow... I'm loving this worklog!!!!
Great saw, and awesome measuring skills LOL

p0Pe
03-10-2010, 09:14 PM
need MOOAR dude! :D the form on this thing is crazy!

TonyAKAMrClean
03-11-2010, 02:06 AM
If you're anything like me, part of you HAS to feel bad about cutting into such a beautiful case... However - WOW! Great idea!!! This thing is going to be SICK when you're done with it!

Frenkie
03-11-2010, 05:00 PM
True, the Fractal Design case IS a beauty without any modifications. And yes, I have cut it pretty bad.... But in my mind it is becoming better and better. :)

The next piece will be one of the cockpit windows. For this I use smoked-plexi.
This is with protecting foil on both sides.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_165.jpg

Here one corner without the foil.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_166.jpg

Cutting it also gives a lot of mess !
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_167.jpg

Here it will come.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_168.jpg

I will spraypaint case and the edges in silky-matblack. So I will leave the protecting foil where it is.
It has no use to remove it and mask the same piece again later.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_169.jpg

And here come the bevels again.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_170.jpg

This is what holds it all together; Power Fix kit and liquid soap to smooth out the edges.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_171.jpg

There, another piece is done.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_172.jpg

It is not going too fast, I deliberatly wait every time untill the glue has hardened. Also I have limited spare time.
We'll get there, I just ask you have patience with me.

TheGreatSatan
03-11-2010, 11:07 PM
I love how it comes already flat black. I appreciate that you didn't just cheat by starting with the B2 case from InWin, like I'll be using on my next project....

http://www.inwin-style.com/photo/pd_name/images/B2.jpg

Frenkie
03-12-2010, 01:49 PM
Nice case ! Good to see some case manufacterers are still trying to get a decent pre-mod out these days !

Waynio
03-22-2010, 09:00 AM
Loving this extreme case mod Frenkie, coming along nicely :up:.

diluzio91
03-22-2010, 12:03 PM
Im interested to see how you will make the side panel removable in this mod. Lovng it so far
+rep for the gutsy cutting!

Loki
04-26-2010, 03:50 PM
I want to see a small update on this thing!! I will be satisfied with one picture of the edges being sanded at least :P

Pease don't let me down with this great mod!!!

Frenkie
05-17-2010, 03:24 PM
Been very busy with my new job (was unemployed for a year) and have to work overtime too. In the evenings I dont have much time or energy left to do a lot of modding. Gradually it goes a bit better, so here is a update.
During the build I found that the "nose" was going to give me trouble if I didnt modify it.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_173.JPG

First in regular paper to see what I needed.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_174.JPG

Then made it from Forex hardfoam plate.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_175.JPG

From the inside it looks like a weld.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_176.JPG

Last triangle piece with the edges bare for the construction kit, mid piece I wil remove after the spraypaint.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_177.JPG

Looking through the plexi.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_178.JPG

I will smoothen out all the edges.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_179.JPG

Couch3ater
05-17-2010, 03:29 PM
Looks amaaaazing. Can't wait to see this thing finished and fired up.

Off topic:
Congrats on the new job! Overtime must me great money but lame hours, eh?

Frenkie
05-17-2010, 03:49 PM
Not even money :( I get to start an hour earlier ( up @ 6:00 AM ) and the time I gather I will get back...someday..... ( very hazy at that point :( )

x88x
05-17-2010, 04:38 PM
Looks great, I love the 117-inspired lines. :D Congrats on the new job too! Crappy hours is still better than nothing.

Couch3ater
05-17-2010, 06:54 PM
Yea, at least you have steady work. I suppose it sucks being to work at 6:00 in the morning, but I'm a high school student, so I know what you deal with, hahaha

Loki
05-17-2010, 09:04 PM
Frenkie! It's great to see that you are back on track with this build! Congrats on the new job and on this spectacular mod!

Frenkie
05-19-2010, 02:19 PM
Thanx guys !


Total view from the right (sorry bit hazy)
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_180.JPG

View from left.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_181.JPG

View from back left. You can see that the PC components in the front will also be radically altered because of the beveled pieces.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_182.JPG

To make the 'welds' more smooth, I warmed the kit in a bucket of hot water.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_183.JPG

Cant see it very clearly here, but its smoother.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_184.JPG

Getting the sharp tools out.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_185.JPG

Knife against the plate and slowly cutting.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_186.JPG

Afterwards some light sanding and there you go.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_187.JPG

x88x
05-19-2010, 02:24 PM
Very nice, clean edge.

Couch3ater
05-19-2010, 07:23 PM
And after a few more hours, some knicks and slices, you'll be all done with the seams!

silverdemon
05-20-2010, 06:37 PM
Looks great! nice smooth seems.

I wonder though, did you get all the strength back into the case. That was my concern when you first started cutting... Looks pretty sturdy now though

keep it up!

jawshwaa
05-20-2010, 07:57 PM
paper templates ftw.im glad were not too advanced to still use them. thats gonna look mean when its done.

Frenkie
05-22-2010, 04:32 AM
Looks great! nice smooth seems.

I wonder though, did you get all the strength back into the case. That was my concern when you first started cutting... Looks pretty sturdy now though

keep it up!

Yes, youre right. The construction will never have the same strength again as it used to be..... but... it overall suprised even me how sturdy the whole thing is now. It can easily be transported now without falling apart. :)


paper templates ftw.im glad were not too advanced to still use them. thats gonna look mean when its done.

Thanx man, yes paper or cardboard templates give you a lot of information in advance of cutting precious metal or plastic. Good tip !

Started selecting model-parts for the kit-bashen.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_188.JPG

Also have some in chrome-silver colour, might be able to use that too.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_191.JPG

Some of the parts.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_189.JPG

What you reckon, is this from a kawasaki ? :P
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_190.JPG

The side-panels were way to bare, so I need some wings growing there. Trying some setups in Sketchup.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_192.JPG

Something like this, with bombs, two red lasers and missilles underneath the wings.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_193.JPG

Frenkie
05-28-2010, 11:01 AM
Started doodling in Sketchup over the wing design.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_194.JPG

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_195.JPG

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_196.JPG

Sketchup supplied me with the measurements, the smaller wings are scaled 1 in 3.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_197.JPG

With this piece of Forex
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_199.JPG

Using a sharp scalpel and a ruler.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_200.JPG

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_201.JPG

The same with the smaller wings.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_202.JPG

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_203.JPG

And here are the 4 wings.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_204.JPG

And this is how I will mount them.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_205.JPG

Luthien
05-28-2010, 11:31 AM
The way you've fit so many pieces together so smoothly is very impressive.

x88x
05-28-2010, 12:28 PM
Interesting idea with the wings. It's a step away from the 117, but hey, that's why we say 'inspired by'. :P

Loki
05-30-2010, 06:55 PM
I love this build Frenkie, But, I wouldn't put wings on it.. I'll be a pain in the b** every time you try to put it on a small place.. That's just my opinion..

How about trying to give the wing "Idea" with two stripes on the sides¿?
Something like this:

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/5366/frenkie.jpg

I repeat, just an idea :)

Frenkie
05-31-2010, 01:47 PM
luv the paint skillz :) And it IS a valid idea. It is also a lot more practical indeed when using the case. But this time I choose for IMpractical ( or is it INpractical? ) and so i'll be using massive-oh-my-god-I-broke-a-piece-of-again wings ! :)


Made some studs, this is how they will be mounted.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_206.JPG

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_207.JPG

Marking it nice and clean.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_208.JPG

Setting it up with black construction kit.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_209.JPG

Wiping it afterwards with liquid soap.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_210.JPG

StormRider
05-31-2010, 02:07 PM
wow, that reminds me of a spike strip. :eek:
sweet work on the case

Couch3ater
05-31-2010, 04:05 PM
Lookin goooood. And yes, it's impractical. Hahaha

x88x
05-31-2010, 05:36 PM
Looks sweet.

Loki
06-01-2010, 10:06 AM
LOL
sweet impractical wings :P

Waynio
06-05-2010, 06:37 PM
LOL
sweet impractical wings :P

LOL :D.

It's coming along very nicely Frenkie, the seems are looking quite perfect :up:. +rep for taking the gamble & getting this far with it & proving to be a good solid plan :bowdown: 8).

Frenkie
06-05-2010, 06:48 PM
Thank you very nice of you !

The wings get a nice little bevelled edge.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_215.JPG

All sides, both wings.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_216.JPG

Mounting the wings, adding kit to the studs.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_211.JPG

Carefull now.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_212.JPG

The ducktape is just in case I bump into them ( or my cats )
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_213.JPG

Big wing is mounted.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_214.JPG

x88x
06-05-2010, 08:42 PM
Technically they should be the other way around (going off the F-117), but great work. :D

StormRider
06-05-2010, 08:48 PM
just anchor it to the ground so that it doesn't fly off and join the USAF

Luthien
06-06-2010, 12:54 PM
Looks great.

Frenkie
06-08-2010, 05:05 PM
Let me show you what we got up to now.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_217.JPG

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_218.JPG

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_219.JPG

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_220.JPG

Looking at this front view, you can look through the plexi where you can spot the kit. After spraypainting you wont see any of that.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_221.JPG

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_222.JPG

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_223.JPG

Luthien
06-08-2010, 05:41 PM
Sadly, I don't understand what you've written, but the pictures look great.

x88x
06-08-2010, 06:05 PM
Looks great once you got the plexi sorted out. Now you just need to get rid of that tape..
..oh, also english would be nice.. :whistler:

StormRider
06-08-2010, 08:25 PM
translation? where is it?

Loki
06-09-2010, 10:39 AM
Wow... now THAT's a mod!!!
Those wings, those really impractical wings.. actually are REALLY cool!!!

Waynio
06-09-2010, 10:48 AM
^^ Agreed :), also Who needs a translation with awesome pictured updates like that :D, wicked mod Frenkie 8):up:.

Luthien
06-09-2010, 05:13 PM
^^ Agreed :), also Who needs a translation with awesome pictured updates like that :D, wicked mod Frenkie 8):up:.

I agree. Pictures are awesome

Frenkie
06-10-2010, 03:01 PM
How about lightweight?

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_225.JPG

Loki
06-10-2010, 03:47 PM
How about lightweight?

And how about weight lifter???

Luthien
06-11-2010, 11:17 AM
Nice job balancing the case. I don't know how light it is, but I know I couldn't hold a case up like that. The case looks awesome.

Waynio
06-11-2010, 12:24 PM
Well done Frenkie :):up:, so what does it weigh?.

Frenkie
06-11-2010, 01:36 PM
Well done Frenkie :):up:, so what does it weigh?.

About 5,5 kg. But thats without that bitumen padding Fractal Design uses to silence the case and no hardware inside. :P

Frenkie
06-12-2010, 10:59 AM
After I removed the ducttape, I stripped the excess kit.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_226.JPG

Here I added allready a small line of kit before I track it with soap.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_228.JPG

Ah the mini-lasers are in.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_230.JPG

Awfully small !?
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_231.JPG

Only $1,54 and runs on two AA batteries.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_232.JPG

x88x
06-12-2010, 03:11 PM
Hmmm, I wonder where those are going. :D

StormRider
06-12-2010, 06:23 PM
they're going to be used in the guidance system for the nukes
everyone, prepare for war

Frenkie
06-13-2010, 08:24 AM
ROFL !


More irritating, impractical protruding pieces added: the Tail section.
After I doodled in Sketchup, printed it out on paper.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_251.JPG

The length was to big, so I cut quite a piece of. And ofcourse bevelled the edges.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_252.JPG

Trying to find the 'right' way to stick it on.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_253.JPG

And here it is, mounted and used the soap to smooth out the edges
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_254.JPG
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_255.JPG
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_256.JPG
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_257.JPG
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_258.JPG
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_261.JPG

Couch3ater
06-13-2010, 10:07 AM
Sooooo, where's the engine on this thing go? I mean really, you're pretty much a few pieces shy of this thing lifting off. Very nice. ^_^

x88x
06-13-2010, 01:51 PM
Pics aren't loading, and I can't load them directly. Also, looks like they're down according to downforeveryone.com too, so it's not just me.
EDIT:
They're working now. It looks great with the tail.

Luthien
06-13-2010, 02:20 PM
Very, very nice. It looks ready to fly away.

Drum Thumper
06-13-2010, 05:43 PM
Still throwin the 1337 into the pics I see. You never fail to deliver!

StormRider
06-14-2010, 12:42 AM
dude, that is one sick plane you've got there

Frenkie
06-14-2010, 09:44 AM
Thanx guys, much appriciated !

I was doodling with a nose, what you think of this idea ?


http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_nose1.JPG
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_nose2.JPG

Loki
06-14-2010, 10:44 AM
Great work on that tail!!
I don't think that that nose is necesary... I can get the full plane picture already :)

Couch3ater
06-14-2010, 12:10 PM
Yea, I'd totally leave the nose out. I think at that point it might be a little bit too much. Besides, I think if you wanted to have the nose, you'd want to start it higher up and have it at a more drastic angle. IMO anyways...

x88x
06-14-2010, 01:26 PM
I think if you wanted to have the nose, you'd want to start it higher up and have it at a more drastic angle.

/\ This. I also think it looks great without the nose.

dr.walrus
06-14-2010, 01:58 PM
The nose you sketched reminded me of something, but i couldn't think what. After a while I realised I was thinking of a cattle guard on a train.

http://homepage.mac.com/icafe/RitaRanch/Pictures/Photos/TrainCloseUp.jpg

Sorry.

Frenkie
06-14-2010, 02:06 PM
The nose you sketched reminded me of something, but i couldn't think what. After a while I realised I was thinking of a cattle guard on a train.

http://homepage.mac.com/icafe/RitaRanch/Pictures/Photos/TrainCloseUp.jpg

Sorry.

A train mod !!!! hmmmmmmmmm :D :D :D

Luthien
06-14-2010, 02:19 PM
I agree. It looks good without the nose. However, a train mod would be kinda cool.

StormRider
06-14-2010, 07:15 PM
;eave the nose off. It's like the sphinx: doesn't need a nose

diluzio91
06-14-2010, 09:02 PM
i vote no on the nose, but it would look nice maybe if you had it go from the top to floor instead?

Waynio
06-16-2010, 11:29 AM
i vote no on the nose, but it would look nice maybe if you had it go from the top to floor instead?

I agree exactly with this comment.

Frenkie
06-17-2010, 02:21 PM
Great ideas though ! I am still not 100 % sure about the nose, so many pro's and con's. So i'll take a break ....

naaaaaaahhhhhh couldnt do that to you !! So here is the first part of the detailling.
You know my previous mods, so this will not surprise you ..... or will it?

How to make Laser-guided Missiles.
Take the cheapest ballpoint pen you can find from the dollar shop.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_237.JPG

OMG, who BUYS these things? ( uhh me? )
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_238.JPG

Add some polystyreen ( Vikureen )
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_239.JPG

and fantasize some wings and a tail on to the pen.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_240.JPG
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_241.JPG
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_242.JPG

First layer of matte-white paint.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_243.JPG

Total 3 layers for max coverage.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_244.JPG

From my kit-bashing stock, I could really use these decals.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_245.JPG

Fantasy lettering on the areas that will be visible.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_246.JPG

Made a hole for the laser-wires.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_247.JPG

I painted the topcap in fire engine-red, added some block-decalls and fitted it all together.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_248.JPG

Last test if it still burns on 2 x AA batteries. ( can also be 5 V from PSU )
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_249.JPG
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_250.JPG

Ready to engage !

Loki
06-17-2010, 02:49 PM
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4189/550f16fightingfalconaim.jpg

x88x
06-17-2010, 02:53 PM
Nice! Now just add some tiny solid-fuel engines in there and you're set! :D

Luthien
06-17-2010, 03:34 PM
Those look great. If I hadn't seen the pics, I'd have never believed they started out as pens.

SXRguyinMA
06-17-2010, 03:38 PM
I love the not-so-random number on your caliper :D

StormRider
06-17-2010, 04:34 PM
lol, my nuke guidance idea was right. and I agree 100% with the picture

Couch3ater
06-17-2010, 10:34 PM
Hahaha, loooooove the missile-pens!

Frenkie
06-18-2010, 02:42 PM
Thanx guys, much appriciated ! :)

Frenkie
06-21-2010, 03:54 PM
Did some more homework about weaponsystems, not neccesary F117.
( yes I know, those disapear inside the plane bla bla )
Here is a fine example of weapons on top, and underneath, thick and thin ones.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_263.JPG

Oh and BTW, these rockets have fins both on front and rear :)
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_264.JPG

These rocketlaunchers are from a chopper. These I want to use.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_265.JPG

These are dampers for pressurized air, saved from the garbage.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_266.JPG

Glued 7 together in a nice symetrical way.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_267.JPG

And this is how i want them underneath the wings.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_269.JPG

Found two sidewinders, and mod them in the same colors.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_270.JPG

x88x
06-21-2010, 04:01 PM
Interesting. I've never seen missiles mounted above the wing before..what plane is that?

Luthien
06-25-2010, 10:55 PM
Nice missiles. Can't wait to see them on the case.

Couch3ater
06-26-2010, 10:59 AM
Pew Pew Pew!

Frenkie
06-28-2010, 03:09 PM
After some SketchUp doodling, I decided to make a genuine Forex model of the nose idea.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_240b.JPG

Viewing from the front it didnt look half bad....
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_243b.JPG

But looking form the side...it sucked. BAD IDEA.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_242b.JPG

Started with detailing using old-fashioned kit-bashing.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_273.JPG

Hmmm isnt that an exhaust form a motorcycle.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_274.JPG

Stick it on with some construction kit on apropiate places.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_275.JPG

Ofcourse left and right as much equal divided.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_276.JPG

Chrome drop shaped spoilers of the dollar shop, 6 for a euro.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_277.JPG

Closeup of the air intake at the front.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_279.JPG

I have nooooo idea what is was, but it is a part of my mod now !
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_280.JPG

Instead of the funny shaped nose, some strategically placed parts.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_281.JPG
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_282.JPG

I didnt forget about the rear, also some model parts added.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_278.JPG

No, not sticking it on just like that....
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_283.JPG

Neatly straight angled.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_284.JPG

One damaged rivet.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_285.JPG

Covered with a nice shaped modelpart.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_286.JPG

:D

The case is now covered with parts in all kind of strange sizes and shapes.
All in different colors, so after this tha painting will cover them all.
Then the finer detailling starts.

x88x
06-28-2010, 03:18 PM
Looks good. And I can't help but notice your helper. ;)

Frenkie
06-28-2010, 03:19 PM
Oh yeah, he requested some sunshine too :)

Loki
06-29-2010, 09:42 AM
Great!!
We told you about the nose, didn't we?? LOL Glad to see you experimented with it instead of leaving that woodchip in your brain XD

That kit bashing looks great!

Waynio
06-29-2010, 11:00 AM
^^ Lol, agreed, I like what you did with the pens :):up:.

Frenkie
06-29-2010, 03:45 PM
Great!!
We told you about the nose, didn't we?? LOL Glad to see you experimented with it instead of leaving that woodchip in your brain XD

That kit bashing looks great!


Yeah, well, you know how it goes.... keeps nagging on my brain: "what IF..."

Now we know for sure. :P Oh and dont get any fancy ideas: next thing you guys suggest, I STILL do what I want :D :D :D

StormRider
06-29-2010, 05:43 PM
don't tell your case to fly. then you will be in some serious trouble with the Feds for flying a stealth case in their airspace

Frenkie
07-04-2010, 05:07 PM
What the F*** is this ?
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_287.JPG

A deformed smiley ?
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_288.JPG

No, its all about this, one of the patches from the F117 squadrons.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_289.JPG

Copied it in Forex and made nice bevelled edges on them.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_290.JPG

Neat little ground plate.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_291.JPG

And this is how it is mounted on the case.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_292.JPG

First coating egg-shell mat black on it.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_293.JPG

Starting to look like it.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_294.JPG

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_295.JPG

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_296.JPG

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_297.JPG

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_298.JPG

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_299.JPG

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_300.JPG

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_301.JPG

Some more paint and detailling, were almost there now.

Loki
07-04-2010, 08:51 PM
Allmost there!! That case is great!

Question, Please don't hate me, but are you happy with the joint between the wings and the case? maybe it can be solved with a little forex stick... What do tou think?

The rest of the case is just mind-blowing!

x88x
07-04-2010, 09:42 PM
Nice nod to the USAF there with the squadron badge. I like it. :D

Frenkie
07-05-2010, 01:51 PM
Allmost there!! That case is great!

Question, Please don't hate me, but are you happy with the joint between the wings and the case? maybe it can be solved with a little forex stick... What do tou think?

The rest of the case is just mind-blowing!

I dont hate you, i like you ! hehehe And youre right, the transition is not good. I need to work on that. :up:

Luthien
07-05-2010, 05:52 PM
There's so much detail...wow...

Frenkie
07-21-2010, 05:35 PM
I've been very busy lately, only a small hardware update.
My friends at Space Promotions came up with this kickass cooler, the Zalman VF3000A !
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_302.JPG

The color of the cooler had to change to get it in line with the mod.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_303.JPG

Looks really good, eh ?
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_304.JPG

x88x
07-21-2010, 05:40 PM
Nice! That is one sweet looking VGA cooler. And yes, the new color is a huge improvement. They should ship all of them like that. :D

StormRider
07-21-2010, 06:54 PM
holy crap, that is one awesome cooler.

Waynio
07-21-2010, 06:58 PM
Looking sweet Frenkie & the cooler looks real nice too 8):up:.

Frenkie
08-10-2010, 02:08 PM
Thanx guys !


Almost done. Got me a nice fat Fractal Design Newton R2 PSU. Thanx Hannes !
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_Final_330.jpg

Even the packaging is worth an award :-)
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_Final_331.jpg

Paint is dry, so now I can peel off the foil very carefully.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_Final_332.jpg

Looks just like I imagined it would. You dont see anything now of those nasty construction kit edges.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_Final_333.jpg

There, now I'm going to get crazy with these tools. Stay tuned ! Last post coming up real soon now!
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth_Final_334.jpg

Loki
08-10-2010, 02:19 PM
Weee, Go craazy XDD

Waynio
08-10-2010, 04:37 PM
Crazy time :banana::wacky::yellow_green: :D.
Looking good :).

Frenkie
08-18-2010, 08:30 AM
For the missile-lasers I made some extra wiring behind both side-panels.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth-Final-335.jpg

Choose a strategic spot to feed the wires through the wing.
Yes, I know, Stealth planes doesnt have rockets on top of their wings, but this mod does ! :)
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth-Final-336.jpg

Here is one of the rockets.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth-Final-337.jpg

Soldered together with the Dremel.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth-Final-338.jpg

Also mounted the Stinger missiles with construction kit.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth-Final-339.jpg

My own personal weapon-shield.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth-Final-340.jpg

and here are the last pictures of the mod.
Allthough the evening came a bit faster then I anticipated, this enhanced the nice led lights a bit more.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth-Final-341.jpg

The white Fractal Design fans really come out with one simple blue led.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth-Final-343.jpg

http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth-Final-344.jpg

And the red lasers give a nice contrast with all this black and blue.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth-Final-345.jpg

Here you see all "shot-down" CRT monitors, beneath the top window.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth-Final-346.jpg

The call-sign on the tail is my birthday ( well almost, just missing a 1 :) )
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth-Final-347.jpg

Oh the double GPU's in this picture is just something I was trying out, no worries.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth-Final-348.jpg

This is how the inside looks with the massive CoolerMaster V10.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth-Final-349.jpg

And with this picture I am saying goodby to you all, I am going on my well earned holiday.
http://clan-rag.gameparty.net/bitchie/case/Stealth/Stealth-Final-342.jpg

:whistler:

Watch this fall for the new mod "Charge!" .

Snowman
08-18-2010, 08:34 AM
Not that it doesn't look good, I love this case build actually, but the stealth has a hide-away rotary bomb bay and missile compartment depending on the load out for the mission.

Waynio
08-18-2010, 09:22 AM
The form & seams look rather bada$$ & is totally unique which is what I like most with this, such a hefty change from what it was, very cool & so do most of the extra bits stuck on & lives up to the stealth theme 8).

But I'd lose the stickers that stand out like a sore thumb or try & make them look a little less like stickers or darken them up a bit if possible & maybe paint the missiles so they don't look like toys, I think if they were black & dark grey they would look awesome, the stickers on the tail look right though, I think it's just the emblems & crt shot down stickers that look off to me, could just be me :), still, it's an awesome mod Frenkie, have a nice holiday :).

SXRguyinMA
08-18-2010, 09:42 AM
that thing looks amazing! nice work!

BS Mods
08-18-2010, 12:01 PM
Very nice job. That was quite a project. It turned out really cool. It definitely has that stealthy look and feel.

x88x
08-18-2010, 12:36 PM
Looks great.

..on a completely unrelated note, I didn't know Dremel made a soldering iron..

Loki
08-18-2010, 03:15 PM
Great mod!! Like Waynio said.. paint those missiles LOL

This case turned out really well, I will love to see some pro pictures when you return from your vacations (Where are you going BTW?)

Congratulations!!

Waynio
11-02-2010, 08:30 PM
:) Thanks for doing this mod Frenkie, it's awesome & helped me decide what tool to get next, one of those awesome disc sanders, just ordered one :banana: :):up:.

Luthien
11-03-2010, 02:32 PM
It turned out great.