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Kayin
05-22-2010, 12:47 PM
Let me preface this with a bit of backhistory.

I grew up wanting to be a scientist. I tore EVERYTHING I could apart. I rebuilt a carburetor at the age of 5. Iron Man (or more properly Tony Stark) and Forge were two of my heroes. By the time I was 10, I was creating implements of war for our neighborhood battles that were completely lethal. Those were summarily taken away after puncturing a tire.

As I grew, I built more and more interesting devices. I built a Beowulf cluster in college. And used it to take over campus internet. My bike was a re-engineered masterpiece of function. So was my (French) horn. I fixed the tonal problems on a 300 dollar starter Yamaha trumpet. A few years back I devised a self-regulating watercooling loop. it ran off not a BigNG or anything, but the motherboard itself.

So I've been playing with chemistry and physics for a long time (took Physics 1 and 2 in high school, got hooked) and I've been trying to answer some major questions in the WC field. We have no "perfect coolant." Distilled is nonconductive, high thermal transfer but stuff grows in it. Antifreeze is safe on that front but has lower thermal conductivity.

I saw some stuff a year or so ago they were referring to as "nanofluid." Interested, I turned to Google. Turns out it was an alumina microparticle suspension. They put metal in water to raise its thermal conductivity. Without clogging blocks, pumps or what have you.

So why is this all important?

I assembled a silver particle nanofluid for PC watercooling using stuff I bought from Wal-Mart and a few chemicals. And it's completely bio-safe. You could drink the entire bottle and you might feel queasy, but it wouldn't harm you. Might make you have some lower GI upset, as some of the ingredients are used for that purpose specifically (among other uses.)

A bonus? Keep it out of the sun, and it's white coolant. Yeah, I broke that one too.

Where is this proof you say? Well I owe a pic or two, right?


http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/kayin/Personal/Argentum/DSC02961.JPG

What's with the dark? Well, the white turns into the black in the presence of light. So, white coolant isn't completely solved yet. However, it's the black that's the real stunner. The black pigmentation is silver, bound in a surfactant in suspension. It's both bacteriostatic and biocidal. The only thing it's not is nonconductive.

I haven't put this in a loop for extended periods (preliminary tests show it just fine in one, btw) but that's going to not be a problem-there's two bottles of this stuff going to our own Editor-In-Chief for review.

If that wasn't enough, I've also created a PC watercooling fluid that you could detonation weld aluminum to copper and leave it in it, and it wouldn't corrode. It's also capable of being fluid in temps down to -84F. This stuff, however, isn't as safe as the nanofluid-so if you're interested in it, it'll kill you or your animals stone dead if you drink it. You are warned. The stuff is so hardcore it comes in aluminum bottles!!! This stuff, by the way, will be going to Trace to test when he tries to beat Bit-Tech at their own game in overclocking...

Argentum Solar (the nanofluid) and Argentum Subzero (the heavy-duty coolant) will be available for sale after Monday of next week, though if you want to wait till after the reviews, I certainly wouldn't mind. Solar comes in white, that decomposes to black in light. Once it's black, it's ready to go. Subzero will come in -10, -4-, -60 and -84 strengths. Get what you need, the chemicals that give it the chiller protection also can limit thermal transfer. At -84, that's no issue, but in a regular loop, it's a problem.

I'm headed back into my lab. I have other toys to create.

Oneslowz28
05-22-2010, 01:30 PM
Yay toys for me to play with!!!

mDust
05-23-2010, 11:02 AM
This stuff, by the way, will be going to Trace to test when he tries to beat Bit-Tech at their own game in overclocking...
Haha! F-ing sweet! Nothing like a little friendly online chemical warfare...err...competition. Blitzkrieg even, since Bit-Tech has no idea...

Keep on experimenting man! It sounds like you're on the path leading up to a breakthrough.

x88x
05-23-2010, 08:38 PM
Awesome stuff! I love seeing cool inventions like this popping up out of indivduals' workshops instead of giant corporations. :D Tony Stark and Forge have been my heroes for a long time as well, along with Nikola Tesla and Leonardo da Vinci. I've always been of the mindset that if what you need doesn't exist, you should go and make it, not sit around waiting for someone else to. Unfortunately, I have yet to be able to keep myself in single field long enough to do anything really interesting. :P

Out of curiosity, why the title? Is there a story behind that? Or is that just where you first heard of nanofluids?

dr.walrus
05-24-2010, 12:41 PM
You could drink the entire bottle and you might feel queasy, but it wouldn't harm you.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/22536241/

:smoker:

Kayin
05-24-2010, 06:07 PM
Ah, argyria. You'd have to drink a case to get enough. There is far less than a gram in each bottle at the moment. Formula may change, but at this juncture it's not a problem.

Glad you brought that up, though. It was an initial concern.

Oneslowz28
05-24-2010, 06:24 PM
If I drank the stuff you sent me would I have a shot at Smurfette

Kayin
05-24-2010, 06:57 PM
yes, yes you would. Be interesting to see the kids offa that.

dr.walrus
05-24-2010, 07:17 PM
Pretty spectacular side effect. I imagine you'd have to design a new warning label

Kayin
05-24-2010, 08:14 PM
The review samples are unlabeled, but the release ones will have suitable warning labels. Including smurfs.

Luthien
05-24-2010, 08:23 PM
The review samples are unlabeled, but the release ones will have suitable warning labels. Including smurfs.

So what exactly will these warning labels say?

diluzio91
05-24-2010, 08:24 PM
ingestion while not lethal may cause you to turn into a smurf and be hunted by a strange and reclusive man named gargamel...

Kayin
05-24-2010, 08:41 PM
I'm really tempted to put that on there. Seriously.

I've got to start labeling this stuff for the next round of reviews...

SXRguyinMA
05-26-2010, 01:13 PM
lol

Luthien
05-26-2010, 01:27 PM
The Smurf's theme music is now stuck in my head...

msmrx57
05-26-2010, 07:58 PM
La la lala la la, la lala la la............

Oneslowz28
05-27-2010, 06:55 PM
I have just took delivery of some activated (black) and unactivated (white) fluid today!

Kayin
05-27-2010, 07:58 PM
World (+dog) wants pics, CJ!

Oneslowz28
05-27-2010, 10:05 PM
Pics will come tomorrow. I took my cameras with me today into the office and left them there on accident. There will be a video too in a few days!

Luthien
05-27-2010, 10:30 PM
I'm looking forward to seeing this.

mDust
05-28-2010, 02:27 PM
Silver atoms won't cause argyria. It's silver ions and their resulting salts/compounds that cause that. If this was made by simple electrolysis, then yes, it will probably cause argyria if one were to drink many, many gallons of the stuff. I'd assume that other ingredients would build up to lethal toxic levels before anyone ever had to worry about Gargamel. So, sorry to the Smurf wannabes here, but don't try this at home.;)

Are we going to see any reviews of this stuff in the near-future?

Oneslowz28
05-29-2010, 12:29 AM
We will see some numbers from me in the coming weeks. I have 2 other WC reviews I have to push out first though.