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TheGreatSatan
08-31-2010, 04:44 PM
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Airbozo
08-31-2010, 04:49 PM
Ho-lee carap!

Amazing skills...

d_stilgar
08-31-2010, 06:41 PM
I haven't been amazed on the internet in years. That just reset my counter.

mDust
08-31-2010, 07:11 PM
I haven't been amazed on the internet in years. That just reset my counter.

Mine too.

That guy works well under pressure...

Trace
08-31-2010, 07:16 PM
I call fake

d_stilgar
08-31-2010, 07:30 PM
Hmm . . . I think you are right. The audio doesn't sound right (although speed of sound would affect that). The reactions of people seem contrived (but people act weird in odd situations like that). The big one is that the plane looks fake when it lands. It decelerates too fast.

mDust
08-31-2010, 07:30 PM
I call fake

On what grounds?

Was it photoshopped?

msmrx57
08-31-2010, 07:34 PM
Snopes calls fake. http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/onewing.asp

mDust
08-31-2010, 09:31 PM
Snopes calls fake. http://www.snopes.com/photos/airplane/onewing.asp

Snopes is in on it!!!:eek:

I'd accept that it defies physics when it lands as a legitimate reason...

BuzzKillington
08-31-2010, 09:46 PM
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msmrx57
08-31-2010, 10:01 PM
I'd accept that it defies physics when it lands as a legitimate reason...

Well that to. :whistler:

SXRguyinMA
08-31-2010, 10:28 PM
you can clearly see it's photoshopped or the like when it "lands"

Spawn-Inc
08-31-2010, 10:54 PM
you can clearly see it's photoshopped or the like when it "lands"

my thoughts exactly, to me it's very obvious that it's fake.

x88x
09-01-2010, 12:49 AM
It definitely is possible to maintain flight if you lose a wing, I'll say that much. Most modern fighter jets, for example, can still fly quite well if they loose a wing and in some cases a tailfin as well. ...though, those can do it because everything is micro-controlled by a computer, though idk if it'd be easier at lower speeds (though still fast enough to make it possible). I have no reference on landing, so I won't touch that one for now..

OvRiDe
09-01-2010, 03:20 AM
It definitely is possible to maintain flight if you lose a wing, I'll say that much. Most modern fighter jets, for example, can still fly quite well if they loose a wing and in some cases a tailfin as well. ...though, those can do it because everything is micro-controlled by a computer, though idk if it'd be easier at lower speeds (though still fast enough to make it possible). I have no reference on landing, so I won't touch that one for now..

Ummm.. no Fighter planes or any other plane can not fly quite well without one of its wings. Ask any aeronautical engineer, AMP mechanic, or ex fighter pilot and I am pretty sure the consensus will be the same. The lack of drag from the wing would make the aircraft so unstable that it would immediately try and go into a spin. Some of the modern jet engine my be able over power some situations but it would still be far from "quite well" and probably impossible to maintain.

As for the video .. it appears to me that the plane when its flying is a small scale RC. With their skewed power to weight ratio they can pull stunts like that but wouldn't be able to land nice and level like that. It appeared to me they did some Aftereffects trickey to do the landing and then the full plane scene where he is getting out. Its nice work from the video editing side, and still fun to watch. Very creative idea and execution.

SXRguyinMA
09-01-2010, 06:49 AM
As for the video .. it appears to me that the plane when its flying is a small scale RC. With their skewed power to weight ratio they can pull stunts like that...

like this :bowdown:

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x88x
09-01-2010, 11:13 AM
Ummm.. no Fighter planes or any other plane can not fly quite well without one of its wings. Ask any aeronautical engineer, AMP mechanic, or ex fighter pilot and I am pretty sure the consensus will be the same. The lack of drag from the wing would make the aircraft so unstable that it would immediately try and go into a spin. Some of the modern jet engine my be able over power some situations but it would still be far from "quite well" and probably impossible to maintain.

Sorry, by 'quite well' in that context I meant 'quite well for only having one wing'. Basically, they can maintain level flight and get their pilot(s) to safety. I think some might even be able to land.

mDust
09-01-2010, 01:33 PM
Ummm.. no Fighter planes or any other plane can not fly quite well without one of its wings. Ask any aeronautical engineer, AMP mechanic, or ex fighter pilot and I am pretty sure the consensus will be the same. The lack of drag from the wing would make the aircraft so unstable that it would immediately try and go into a spin. Some of the modern jet engine my be able over power some situations but it would still be far from "quite well" and probably impossible to maintain.

As for the video .. it appears to me that the plane when its flying is a small scale RC. With their skewed power to weight ratio they can pull stunts like that but wouldn't be able to land nice and level like that. It appeared to me they did some Aftereffects trickey to do the landing and then the full plane scene where he is getting out. Its nice work from the video editing side, and still fun to watch. Very creative idea and execution.

Provided the airspeed is high enough to support the weight of the plane, the body of the aircraft can be used as a 'wing'. The OP video is entirely possible, though unlikely and was 3D animation and video editing. It looked really good until the landing. I assume there were deadlines if it was a school/work project and the animator ran out of time...it's happened to me. :facepalm:

I would say that the beginning of the video up to about :42 is live footage of the actual stunt plane doing its thing (minus the wing coming off, which sounds like they snapped a twig next to the mic) were fully animated. After the :42 mark the sound and video are dramatically different.

Some things I noticed right off the bat:
-the wing snap is audible and sounds like a tiny piece of wood
-lighting changes and isn't realistic
-lands hard with no sound, smoke, or other effect
-bounces once and then rolls impossibly linear...in grass
-the sound after :42 is awful...especially the engine noise which changes for no reason while on the ground
-that pilot is really good

As for it looking like an RC plane, here's a (lame) video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZ_TUjO4tlw) of a real stunt plane pulling a 'helicopter' at 3:50 and again at 9:40. Stunt planes are cool like that. They happen to also have an incredibly skewed weight to power ratio.

SXRguyinMA
09-01-2010, 02:43 PM
plus if the wing snapped you would have seen all the fuel drain out and the engine ould have stalled :banana:

msmrx57
09-01-2010, 03:28 PM
plus if the wing snapped you would have seen all the fuel drain out and the engine ould have stalled :banana:

Actually most stunt and racing planes have pressurized fuel bladders in the fuselage. Regular tanks don't get consistant fuel pick up in high G and inverted flight.

SXRguyinMA
09-01-2010, 03:34 PM
ahh good point :up:

OvRiDe
09-01-2010, 04:08 PM
Here is a stunt plane loosing a wing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn4k_Fek4Dg

Here is an RC plane loosing a wing.. for some reason this looks strangely familiar.

http://break.com/index/plane-loses-wing-in-mid-flight.html?matchid=

mDust
09-02-2010, 12:31 PM
Here is a stunt plane loosing a wing...

Yeah, but that pilot sucked!

It very well could be an RC plane up until the camera loses focus at :42. After that point, I promise you it's animated.

Another thing I noticed is that the camera is all 'shaky' and doesn't even keep the plane in the field of view up until :42 and then the digital camera just has a simple noise modifier and tracks the plane perfectly.

SXRguyinMA
09-02-2010, 12:37 PM
well while we're on the subject of r/c planes...here's 2 of the world's largest. one with 4 turbines and another with 4 gas props :bowdown:

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x88x
09-02-2010, 02:06 PM
Wow, that's just impressive. ...I wonder what the payload capacity is on that C-17...it looks about big enough to carry a small person. :think: Anyone up for the first person to skydive out of a model plane? :twisted:

BuzzKillington
09-02-2010, 02:20 PM
I was on edge watching him manually start those engines... if it were me I would have started in a safer order (left inside, left outside, right outside, right inside) to avoid losing a few fingers.

mDust
09-02-2010, 02:34 PM
I was on edge watching him manually start those engines... if it were me I would have started in a safer order (left inside, left outside, right outside, right inside) to avoid losing a few fingers.

I'd be more concerned about losing an arm, to which all five fingers are attached.

The small jet engines are +10 to coolness...and probably safety and fuel economy as well.