Official TBCS Folding Team

[Trace]

Place holder.

[BuzzKillington]

huh?

[Trace]

I needed the URL of this post for the article I'm writing about our team.

[Collinstheclown]

I thought TBCS had a F@H team already...


Edit: Here it is.
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=175600

Unless you just made it... lol :facepalm::whistler:

[Trace]

We have a different team, that has points :D

[diluzio91]

did we ever find out what the team number was? the one with points

Found it

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=155539

[PartyLikeARockstar]

I'll join this! Where do i sign?

[x88x]

Sure, I'll join...once I get my desktop working again... Hmmm, does this project have GPU support? :twisted:

[nevermind1534]

There's also BOINC. I have a TON of points for SETI, because it runs constantly on my GPU. The others use the CPU. I only started using BOINC again a little over a month ago, when I replaced my P4 with a Q6600. Since then, I've had it running at 100% constant.

http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4247

[PartyLikeARockstar]

What can I do with an i7 860, and 2 GTS 250s? one runs @x16, the other x4 at best. Would it put up points?

[nevermind1534]

Lots of points. I think I get more points from my single 9800GTX+ than I do from all four cores of my CPU combined.

[diluzio91]

What can I do with an i7 860, and 2 GTS 250s? one runs @x16, the other x4 at best. Would it put up points?

im folding on just an AMD 630, because my GPU isnt supported... so yes. it would do work...

[mDust]

im folding on just an AMD 630, because my GPU isnt supported... so yes. it would do work...

You can use your 6850 even though it isn't technically supported. I'm using my 6870 just fine.
Get FAH GPU Tracker V2. (http://fahtracker.com/)
In the configuration force 'ATI R800' and it will work.
I'm seriously amazed at how much faster GPUs are than CPUs...my 6870 is running laps around my X6 1090T! There's no competition there whatsoever.

By the way, I joined the TBCS folding team.

EDIT: I take back the 6870 running laps around the 1090T. When I configured the program I goofed. The 1090T is now thoroughly trouncing the 6870 using only 4/6 cores.:D

[slaveofconvention]

Ok so the whole point of THIS thread was originally to act as the official home of the TBCS Folding team - FYI the team number is 191053. If you're folding for any other TBCS team, please change over to this team number - I'm not saying any other ones aren't official, but they're no longer being actively monitored so it'd probably be best if we try to concentrate on a single team number.

If you're folding for someone else - cmon, please, pretty please, make the switch to our team. Until Trace is back on board full time, I'm going to keep an eye on this and will be regularly posting updates on how we're doing and how we're progressing up the ranks. As soon as we hit 6000 (which isn't that far really) we can use a more informative ranking page which will tell us exactly how far we have to go to overtake the next team etc.


To give you an idea of how we're doing already, with just a few members....

at 11:15 (UK time) today, we were ranked 8826
at 18:00 (UK time) today, we were ranked 8723

Thats over 100 places in less than 7 hours so we should be flying once we get a few (or a lot) more members involved....

[x88x]

Anyone know if there's a good multithreaded linux CLI client? My server only has a Celery E1500, but it's another two cores.

[mDust]

Anyone know if there's a good multithreaded linux CLI client? My server only has a Celery E1500, but it's another two cores.

http://fahwiki.net/index.php/Running_the_FAH_client_on_Linux

^^^ First google result. *cough*noob*cough*:D

[x88x]

^^^ First google result. *cough*noob*cough*:D

Ah, but I got you to do the search for me. Who's the noob now? ;) :P

[mDust]

Ah, but I got you to do the search for me. Who's the noob now? ;) :P

awww....you're winning!

[diluzio91]

im having troubles... i get these messages

starting gpu/cpu 0
starting new wu on xxx

but my cpu is running at 0% and my GPU is running at 0%...

Help?

[DynamoNED]

Hmmm...I've got a Pentium D 915 & an Asus P5B-Deluxe that are between systems right now...well, looks like I know what my next project is!

[mDust]

but my cpu is running at 0% and my GPU is running at 0%...


After how long and on what system? Completing a WU takes a long time on fast computers, and even longer on older computers...especially the CPU/SMP WUs.

My HD6870 is taking about 2:15 per 1%...which is much faster than the cpu projects, but it varies from project to project. You can find more info on the projects here (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/psummaryC.html). It even tells you what research that project is part of! It makes it seem worth it if you read up on your current project.

[diluzio91]

no, my cpu usage is at 0%. same with gpu. the completion percentage is at 0, but nothing is processing.

[mDust]

no, my cpu usage is at 0%. same with gpu. the completion percentage is at 0, but nothing is processing.

Check this (http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1998)out. To sum it up, make sure you're running it as admin. You are now winning like x88x.:)

[diluzio91]

my log file


[02:53:50] - Ask before connecting: No
[02:53:50] - User name: diluzio91 (Team 151093)
[02:53:50] - User ID: 5773ADCD134DECB5
[02:53:50] - Machine ID: 2
[02:53:50]
[02:53:50] Work directory not found. Creating...
[02:53:50] Could not open work queue, generating new queue...
[02:53:50] - Preparing to get new work unit...
[02:53:50] Cleaning up work directory
[02:53:50] + Attempting to get work packet
[02:53:50] - Connecting to assignment server
[02:53:50] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[02:53:50] + Could not connect to Assignment Server
[02:53:50] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[02:53:50] + Could not connect to Assignment Server 2
[02:53:50] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[02:53:50] - Attempt #1 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[02:54:07] + Attempting to get work packet
[02:54:07] - Connecting to assignment server
[02:54:07] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[02:54:07] + Could not connect to Assignment Server
[02:54:07] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[02:54:07] + Could not connect to Assignment Server 2
[02:54:07] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[02:54:07] - Attempt #2 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[02:54:25] + Attempting to get work packet
[02:54:25] - Connecting to assignment server
[02:54:26] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[02:54:26] + Could not connect to Assignment Server
[02:54:26] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[02:54:26] + Could not connect to Assignment Server 2
[02:54:26] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[02:54:26] - Attempt #3 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[02:54:49] + Attempting to get work packet
[02:54:49] - Connecting to assignment server
[02:54:49] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[02:54:49] + Could not connect to Assignment Server
[02:54:49] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[02:54:49] + Could not connect to Assignment Server 2
[02:54:49] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[02:54:49] - Attempt #4 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.
[02:55:37] + Attempting to get work packet
[02:55:37] - Connecting to assignment server
[02:55:37] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[02:55:37] + Could not connect to Assignment Server
[02:55:37] - Couldn't send HTTP request to server
[02:55:37] + Could not connect to Assignment Server 2
[02:55:37] + Couldn't get work instructions.
[02:55:37] - Attempt #5 to get work failed, and no other work to do.
Waiting before retry.

really confused now...

[mDust]

my log file
...
really confused now...

what have you done!:eek:

I would recommend the tracker that I linked to above. Install it. Run it. Hit Setup>Download FAH Clients. Configure anything else. Fold.

[diluzio91]

thats the one im using... i redownloaded 3 different files

[mDust]

thats the one im using... i redownloaded 3 different files

weird...
Check to make sure there are no anti-virus/malware or firewalls blocking it. Make sure port 8080 isn't blocked.

[slaveofconvention]

With thanks to mDust, Technochicken and Dr.Walrus, (well yeah, and me a bit but it's kinda silly sounding to thank myself) we jumped up to 8586 from 8723 - another 137 places...

You can check the team stats at anytime by going to this page...
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=191053

Or most clients will give you a right-click option to jump to team stats....

What we REALLY need to make some MAJOR jumps (apparently) are some Nvidia people running 240's or above - those cards apparently tear thru the folding.... (opens ebay)

[dr.walrus]

at 11:15 (UK time) today, we were ranked 8826
at 18:00 (UK time) today, we were ranked 8723


I've turned off power saving and left my beast on overnight - current rank is 8586, let's see how fast this goes down!

[dr.walrus]

Looks like I'm running on CPU only, how do I change that to use my GPU?

[slaveofconvention]

You need a different client - which GPU do you have?

[diluzio91]

You need a different client - which GPU do you have?

At the moment, I'm running a 6850, with a Phenom 955. But in a few weeks I will be stepping up to a better Nvidia Card. I'm thinking of the 560.

Also, when I get back to school I'll fire up my alienware lappy as well. the i5 and the 335m in that should throw out some nice ppd...

[slaveofconvention]

Ok so I'm not going to keep checking THIS frequently but.... 8407 now guys.... Keep it up :D

[Oneslowz28]

I wonder what my dual 5870s will do

[slaveofconvention]

You might be unpleasantly surprised - apparently (as I can kinda confirm) Nvidia cards are leagues ahead of ATI's when it comes to folding - my lone 4870 is barely breaking 2000ppd - so probably around 4000 per card - which is great, but peanuts compared to what an equivalent Nvidia card will push out - its not a hardware issue, more a f@h software one but we're kinda stuck with it...

Much as I hate linking to THAT site - here's a breakdown of what most current GPU's are folding at...

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2010/08/05/what-is-the-best-graphics-card-for-folding/3

Course, an extra 8000ppd would still be VERY welcome....

[Oneslowz28]

Even with the ATI client? That kinda sucks.

[x88x]

Interesting. The client is probably optimized for nVidia processing methods, and the ATi client hasn't been optimized as well. Actually, come to think of it, it also depends a bit on the type of calculations being done...but it wouldn't be that big a difference if they were equally optimized.

It's focused on hash-generation (and machine-translated..), but here's a good paper explaining the differences in their processing techniques.
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.golubev.com%2Fabout_c pu_and_gpu_ru.htm&sl=ru&tl=en&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8

Oh, and btw, sometime this weekend I should be adding ~24,599ppd. :twisted:

Hmm, and I'll have to talk to PLAR...see about adding his ~46,924 possible ppd. :whistler:

[slaveofconvention]

I'm toying with picking up a nice cheap DDR3 GT440 to throw into an old 775 P4 3.0 board I have lying around - have a dedicated folding machine as a starting block - ironically, with that cheap - 2 or 3 from the bottom GPU, I should get easily double what the 4870 is getting!

And last thing before bed (I start work in 6 hours *sob*) - we're now at 8352 - I'm really looking forward to us breaking the 6k purely because that other stats page gives you a much better idea how you're doing and a realistic idea of how long till you pass the next team above you etc - keeps it interesting :D

[Oneslowz28]

ANy numbers on what an 8800 GTS will pull?

[Technochicken]

According to this thread, about 2.5K ppd:

http://www.w7forums.com/ppd-database-t7947.html

[Oneslowz28]

Well I have 2 of them. No sli mobo though.

[slaveofconvention]

I have a semi-faulty 8800 - might give that a go - from what I've been told, the problem with the card is likely to be memory related, and folding really doesn't use the video ram so much so I might be able to get away with it.

The bank manager growled at me when I thought about buying that GT440 lol

[slaveofconvention]

And a big TBCS welcome to the team for..... *drum roll*

Drumthumper - who made a nice 500+ point splash with his first Work Unit....

FYI, that puts us at 8207, up from 8806 when the article was written - that's almost 600 places in just a few days with a handful of members....

[diluzio91]

I promise that when i get my folding working ill add 2 i5 mobilechips, my quad core, a dual core athlon, an 8800 gt and a 6850 or a 560

[slaveofconvention]

With the current clients, you'll get hugely higher points from the 560 than the 6850 - the clients are much better optomised for nVidia chips at the moment

[dr.walrus]

gpu client doesn't even work on my 4870x2

[diluzio91]

With the current clients, you'll get hugely higher points from the 560 than the 6850 - the clients are much better optomised for nVidia chips at the moment

yea... but there's $250 between the 560 and me right now. lol

[mDust]

Those PPD numbers look pretty optimistic. Maybe a maximum? No two projects are the same anyway so don't expect to see the same numbers consistently. I've seen my 1090t as high as 14k (once) running all 6 cores but I usually keep it on 5 which nets 6-9k. And my 6870 is usually running around 3-6k...so around 9-15k total.
I suspect an i7 would actually tear up any AMD like nVidia tears up ATI/AMD at this. Someone here with an i7 and nVidia needs to post some actual PPD numbers.

[slaveofconvention]

Congrats all - as of this morning we're in the 7000's (barely heh - 7964) but it's one little milestone down.

I also decided to ignore the wife and bank managers growls (mainly because a customer of mine turned up at the door with some money he owed me) and went out and bought a second GPU mainly FOR folding - I was toying with either a GT420 or GT440 but with this little extra cash, I went for a GTS450 - I've read they're good for in the region of 12,000ppd so hopefully, we'll get a nice jump in production...

I have two AMD PCs at work running a single core CPU client 24/7 although they aren't powerful machines, one a dual core 2.1 and the other a single core 1.8. My main pc has been running SMP on a Q6700 and GPU2 on a 4870 - so far since I started keeping track, about 4 days, I've produced a total of 7309 points - I can't believe this one GPU is likely to do that much in about 7 hours heh - fingers crossed :D

EDIT:
Yeah it's official (well as official as anything I say ever gets anyway) - when it comes to folding, Nvidia kicks AMD/ATI's ass - according to this comparison over at toms hardware LINKY (http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2010-gaming-graphics-charts-high-quality/compare,2484.html?prod%5B4603%5D=on&prod%5B4533%5D=on) - my Radeon 4870 is better in 38/41 tests (and two of those are noise level) than the new GTS250 even with the Nvidia card having double the RAM - but the folding side tells a different story - in the image below, GPU0 is the Nvidia, and GPU1 is the 4870 - the Nvidia is doing well over 4x what the Radeon is....


http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/slaveofconvention/imagestore/ppd.PNG

[SXRguyinMA]

it doesn't support my 6870, oh well :D

[SXRguyinMA]

I've got it running on my CPU, but at most it's only using 30%, is that normal?

[slaveofconvention]

if you use that software I'm using, above, then in settings you can tell it to treat is as something else and it'll work - i THINK the ATI R700 is the setting you need

As for the CPU thing - it runs as a background thing so will only max out when you arent doing anything - course if you're multi-core and only using the single core client - that'll have an effect too - you can try the SMP client if you're multicore - much higher results

[SXRguyinMA]

if you use that software I'm using, above, then in settings you can tell it to treat is as something else and it'll work - i THINK the ATI R700 is the setting you need

As for the CPU thing - it runs as a background thing so will only max out when you arent doing anything - course if you're multi-core and only using the single core client - that'll have an effect too - you can try the SMP client if you're multicore - much higher results

I downloaded the FAH tracker, and set it to ATi R800 as suggested, and it's now maxing out my Q6600 @ 100% on all 4, and my 6870 is anywhere between 60% and 90% according to CCC

[slaveofconvention]

Well that should churn out a good few thousand points - maybe more - welcome to the addiction heh

By the way, I've also read that the GPU client makes use of the CPU as well - you might want to consider locking the SMP client into 3 cores only - it may help push the GPU results higher - more so than you'll lose on the CPU

[SXRguyinMA]

well my GPU is at 26% right now, with PPD at 3294. I OC'd my card from 900/1050 to 975/1135 as well. Stock speed it was sitting at ~2900PPD, so the OC gave it a nice bump. The CPU is still at 1%, but hasn't given a PPD for it yet.

On the plus side, my CPU has been going for some time now at 100%, and my corsair H50 (with push-pull setup) hasn't let it get over 44ºC on any cores. The 4 range from 39º to 44º :D My 6870 OC'd is running between 70% and 90% load, hasn't gone over 72ºC and 31% (quiet) fan speed :D If I manually set the fan to 50% (LOUD) it keeps the GPU around 65ºC, but it's too loud seeing how I'm also doing schoolwork on my computer as well lol

[slaveofconvention]

Actually, you might consider downloading the seperate CPU client - idn why but I had much better results with it running standalone than with it being run by the GPU thing....

If you leave it on overnight, you'll get even better PPD overall purely because there won't be any other apps taking up cycles heh

This GTS450 is tearing along - now I'm trying to figure out how to afford another one lol - but don't tell the wife :P

[diluzio91]

back at college, however, i just disocvered that i was folding for team 151093, dont ask how i got there... but they got less than a point... so i think its okay. desktop is gonna be rolling in 5503 per day or so

edit, laptop started running with the 335m, bump me up to 9000 per day or so

[slaveofconvention]

At the rate we're going, I seriously think we'll hit that first 6000 target within 3-4days - even sooner if we get a few more people on board - let's face it - we have some serious hardware spread around the members of this forum...

[AmEv]

Got it on my Kubuntu-based laptop, folding without a hitch, and with a warmer lap.

[SXRguyinMA]

as of right now my computer says 4983 PPD. 1724 CPU/3258 GPU. CPU holding steady at 40-16ºC, GPU steady at 72ºC :D

[diluzio91]

added another 460 to our list, ~8000 ppd?

[slaveofconvention]

idn about the 460 - my 450 is getting 13k but Nvidia's numbering system is such a mess I have no clue whats better than what lol.

EDIT: just did a quick google and it looks like you're in for about 20% more than my GTS250 so if you go with GPU3 Fermi work units, you might well see 16k....

[diluzio91]

lol. also add in a 560 ti and an 8800gt that i recruted. pooooooochooter and jpmeyer038

im on a college campus... recruiting is easy here. lol

[Technochicken]

I just switch my imac from running the SMP client on OS X to the SMP client on W7, and went from 290 PPD on OS X to 1360 in Windows. Take that, Apple!

[dr.walrus]

Just migrated to the performance client - I just kept the simple CPU client running in the background, but now we're going for gold!

[diluzio91]

thats right. im folding...

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/197162_10150124356168426_601993425_6565382_7970449 _n.jpg

[AmEv]

OK. Time to make a folding rigs and specs thread.


1*Celery 1.6GHz.
1*P4 3GHz.

[slaveofconvention]

We're flying guys - just a quick summary for now

Position
8806 - Article Published to front page on 16th
8207 - When Drumthumper joined the team with his first 500 pointer on 19th
7964 - We broke the 8000 mark early on the 20th
7060 - Last check - a few seconds ago....

Right now we have a total of 327660 points, if we take away the 225785 Trace already had sitting in the team account, that means we've already produced over 100,000 points since we started this, less than 5 days ago.

The current target, to get into 6000th or better position so we can get access to lots of kinda useful stats on the extreme overclocking page, requires a bit of a push - we may have gone up almost 2000 places in 5 days by producing 100,000 points BUT, the team currently in 6000th place has a total of 413,504 points which as of the time of writing, is a mere 85,844 points away - I reckon we can do that in LESS than 24 hours - opinions?


EDIT: ok in the interest of accuracy lol - having had a look at the stats on extreme overclocking, it seems that about 4-5 teams fall off of the bottom of the rankings every day, so amended target is the team at 5995 for arguments sake - Da Bears - current score of 413,865 - they're only averaging 100 points a day so I figure it's them we actually have to overtake to guarantee our place in the top 6000 - after that - well we can set new targets, or just see how it goes.... I for one am in favour of the targets just so we have something to look forward to heh....

[SXRguyinMA]

nice! I'll have mine on all day while I'm @ work, but it'll be off @ night, or when gaming. sitting @ 5716PPD now, 1779.6 CPU/3396.2 GPU.

I OC'd my CPU from stock (2.4GHz) to 3.0GHz, and it bumped the CPU up a few points as well.

[Kayin]

Nothing like a goal.

I need to get home and set up that quad quad setup.

[xr4man]

little do you all know, you are really just adding to the skynet network. it should become self aware soon. MUAHAHAHAHAHA!

[slaveofconvention]

And when it does - it WILL remember it's creators, and smite those who did not help..... :P

[xr4man]

crap!

[slaveofconvention]

+rep for the concise response lol - ooh I gave you a whole extra green box

[diluzio91]

woo... just checked team stats. im at number 4 now... im comin after you SOC! lol

[slaveofconvention]

Bring it on heh

[AmEv]

I'll be the lone forum member that'll never have more than 1k points due to being unable to afford and owning the right equipment.

Dang it GeForce 4, why can't you double your number???!?

[slaveofconvention]

hey, every point counts and who knows what you'll be able to do in the future anyway :)

[dr.walrus]

I'm sat with 6 4Ghz cores maxed out 24/7, and 2 6950s coming this week. Watch this space!

[slaveofconvention]

Are you running the SMP client? If you are you should go get a passkey for bonus points (up to 50%) if you havent already

[slaveofconvention]

Ok I'm off to bed - we're at 6906 right now - 150 places higher than when I summarised a few hours ago - here's hoping for a nice surprise when I get up in the morning - fold on :P

[dr.walrus]

Are you running the SMP client? If you are you should go get a passkey for bonus points (up to 50%) if you havent already
yes and how??

[x88x]

So I tried to get my server running this last night, and couldn't figure out the account stuff. Last time I actively folded (with BOINC), I had to sign up for an account, and it managed all my computers and stuff...I'm not seeing anything like that with F@H, and without an account it won't pull any jobs. CLI Linux client, btw.

[Technochicken]

Thanks for the tip about the bonus points! I'm now getting 7250 PPD on my main machine.

[AmEv]

Can't run SMP....


32-bit processors are all I've got.

[Technochicken]

I think the problem is more that you do not have a multi-core CPU. SMP stands for Symmetric MultiProcessing, which basically means more than 1 CPU core.

[AmEv]

Oh.........


Better get my Nightshade-based server up an running then.

[slaveofconvention]

yes and how??

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/getpasskey.py

[slaveofconvention]

My production just took a nosedive dammit lol - for some reason the GPU3 client I'm running on my GTS250 started running 1348 point units instead of the 991 point units it has been doing - the ppd on that GPU dropped from 13k to 8k so I'm down to 11k on my main PC (plus 3 other PC's running standard CPU clients - 2 1.8's and a 2.1 which I figure are getting at most 250ppd each)

[SXRguyinMA]

got my passkey in, we'll see where this goes :D

[slaveofconvention]

We're sitting at 6479 - well on target to get into the into the top 6k today....

[SXRguyinMA]

my rig's cranking away with all fans @ 100% while I'm at work, should be easy. I'll report on the status when I go home for lunch in ~2 hours, before I fire up my lunchtime BFBC2 :D

[AmEv]

[15:25:33] Completed 46568 out of 250000 steps (19%)

Why is it taking so long for this? Is it simply because it is a big thing for the Celery to chew?

[diluzio91]

yeah, my quad has only done 2 wu's to compeltion, my gpu's have 9 each

[SXRguyinMA]

same here, GPU is WAY faster than the CPU/SMP

[slaveofconvention]

yeah - I agree there, my Nvidia is getting easily 5 units to 1 on the CPU

[AmEv]

Unfortunately, either I have onboard graphics, or too old graphics cards. Stuck with CPU for now.

[SXRguyinMA]

sitting @ 6017PPD right now :D

[diluzio91]

Lol... add a gtx 480 and an i7 to my list tonight. Social.....ur mine. Lol

[diluzio91]

Double post

[Oneslowz28]

Ok weird question that I think I know the answer to already.

I have 4 PCIe slots... Could I install the other 2 cards I have (Currently running 2 5870 in crossfire and could add 2 8800s non linked.) Would it work?

[diluzio91]

Ok weird question that I think I know the answer to already.

I have 4 PCIe slots... Could I install the other 2 cards I have (Currently running 2 5870 in crossfire and could add 2 8800s non linked.) Would it work?

I have no idea, but i know that you can run 2 different cards, so i would think so, but you may be limited to 4x speeds

[slaveofconvention]

Power may be an issue - those cards will each draw potentially 250w+ EACH - if you're going to be maxxing all 4 out.... ouch.... If you're only going to max out a pair at a time (I'm assuming you game OR fold, not both at the same time) you'll probably get away with a 800w but don't quote me on that, or send me the bill if I'm wrong...

[x88x]

I have 4 PCIe slots... Could I install the other 2 cards I have (Currently running 2 5870 in crossfire and could add 2 8800s non linked.) Would it work?

Technically, yeah, that would work fine. You might not be able to SLI the 8800's, but you wouldn't want to anyways. The only problem I can see, as slave pointed out, is that the power might be a problem. According to this calculator (http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp), your core system should need ~217W max, your 5870's should need ~223W max, and your 8800's should need ~153W (iirc they're 1GB 8800GT's, yes? worst case, with 8800 Ultra's, they would need ~280W max). So, according to that, you would need a ~600-750W PSU, so I think your 800W should be fine. Worst case, it won't be able to push everything and it'll hang.

[Oneslowz28]

I have a second 800w or 1000w or 750w PSU I can hook up. They are both EVGA 8800 GTS 512mb though. Should still pull some PPD.

[Oneslowz28]

Well I just completed my first work unit but can not see how many points it added. I am running just the ATI client though. Going to install the tracker later tonight.

[slaveofconvention]

We're at 6212 right now - and it's past my bedtime - I'll leave my machine running CPU on a Q6700, GPU2 on a 4870 and GPU3 on a GTS250 - that's all I can do for now - I'm betting damned good money we'll be well inside the 6000 ranking by the time I climb out of bed cursing the sun for being up too early in about 6 hours....

Night all :D

[Cale_Hagan]

setting up my i7 950 rig with the 2 6870's.
possibly my corei3 with my 5870, as well.
might find some other old parts that would do well as well. you never know....

[Cale_Hagan]

Unfortunately, at current it wont work with my 6870 it says. hope gpu3 for ati will be out soon.... maybe trace knows something i don't...:think:

[SXRguyinMA]

Cale, download the FAH tracker (a few posts back) and set it to the ATi R800, it's working perfectly with my 6870 :D

[slaveofconvention]

Well we made it - a little later than I hoped for but hey, what matters is we DID do it - it took the EO page a little longer than I expected to notice but we're there.

If you click this link (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=191053) you can see our own EO page - there isn't a lot of information on there at the moment but that will improve pretty quickly as they get an idea of our production etc.... It'll keep us up to date with what we need to do to move further up the rankings etc and who's catching us....

[x88x]

Awesome!

lol...I have contributed one WU! :P ..don't worry, that'll change tonight...1090T, 2x GTX260's, FX-55, and 2xGTS250's coming. :twisted:

[AmEv]

Well, looks like we can use these handy sigs. (http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/?nav=IMAGES)
468*60... follows sig rules.

400*150px image or a 500*100px image

[Oneslowz28]

Please remember that if you use one of the F@H stat sigs, you will need to remove any quotations from your signature first.

[slaveofconvention]

LOL - yeah that sig is getting a little too long to comply with our signature limits

[AmEv]

Biggest legal sig award? lol

Seriously though. I plan on changing it soon.


Speaking of sigs, it seems the law of cynisism guy has had his the longest. Ironically enough....

[diluzio91]

Had some difficulties with my folders the last couple days.... hopefully i should start posting points again soon

[slaveofconvention]

dammit - I overtook mDust for all of about 2 hours lol - back to 3rd for me :P

[TheMainMan]

Just got the SMP client and GPU3 clients running on my machine. I'll leave them overnight and see how they do tomorrow. Running on a C2Q 9550 with a GTX 470.

[mDust]

dammit - I overtook mDust for all of about 2 hours lol - back to 3rd for me :P

haha. you got me by 17 points as of now. Crysis 2 is impacting my folding as I don't have a dedicated folding machine so I'll probably fall a few places over the next few days. Some of you are machine-gunning WUs anyway, so there's no way I can keep up.


Just got the SMP client and GPU3 clients running on my machine. I'll leave them overnight and see how they do tomorrow. Running on a C2Q 9550 with a GTX 470.
They should do very well. Don't forget to enter the team name as well as yours, and also grab a passkey. Welcome to the team.

[AmEv]

Woohoo!

FIRST WU for TBCS from me!

[DynamoNED]

While I'm working on my dedicated folding machine, I've got the GPU3 client working on my main machine, which has a GTX460; may install the SMP client for my 1055T later. I'm going to run the GPU client overnight, but it is already zipping along - I've had it running for 15 minutes and it's 6% finished with its first work unit.

[diluzio91]

Lol... I just ordered a socket 1156 mobo, an 1156 waterblock, and a gtx 560 ti. Folding will commence.... next weekend when a friend of mine goes to twin cities.

[slaveofconvention]

We're flying and it looks like things are only going to get better. Since we hit the EO page, we're already up nearly 1000 places and over 100,000 points.....

Bit of a milestone too - we broke the 500,000 points mark earlier this morning - woot

[SXRguyinMA]

nice! where does it say the individual member stats?

[slaveofconvention]

I'm not entirely sure. I was actually wondering that myself. I've had a browse around and there doesn't seem to be a certain cutoff or rank where there are individual stats before but not after. It could be that they just don't do it anymore, or maybe the team needs to have been in the chart for xx weeks - but I'm guessing.

[Yeticorn]

Alright, I'll bite. Downloaded the client so we'll see what happens
gtx285 + q6700
i7 on laptop

Not sure now much it's worth, but looks like I'll find out.

[diluzio91]

Be careful of temps on the laptop. i only run the gpu client on mine, otherwise temps hit 75+C

[Oneslowz28]

Yea both my cards stay in the high 60s. On a side note, its still showing me with 1 work unit when there should be 8-9 now. I guess I need to check the settings again.

[slaveofconvention]

Check your logs too - there may be errors when returning results or errors during the processing which make the F@H server disregard what you're doing. The obvious error is the team number being absent or wrong - you would personally have the points and WU's, they just wouldnt be allocated to our team. Easy way to check that is to go to the team page, then click on your username - it'll then show you your personal score (I think) - I just tried that but the pages are being updated so I didn't get a response.

[AmEv]

User stats (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userstats)

And something weird....

It seems my RAM is hotter than my CPU when folding.

[diluzio91]

on your lappy or desktop?

[AmEv]

Lappy.

But that's just how it feels.


*I see we are in top 5000.

[TheMainMan]

The individual stats can be found if you're running the GPU client by right clicking on the icon in the system tray and selecting status then either User Stats for personal stats or Team Stats to view rankings of members in the team.

[x88x]

lol, well, my server is still grinding away at that one core. Slowly, but surely. :P ...just give me a sec...I want to get my other systems up and running before I go to bed. :twisted:

[farlo]

contributing now.

[slaveofconvention]

Yup, not only did we fly into the top 5k, there is NO-ONE catching us, and our production rate is still accelerating - we're doing great IMO for a new team :D

[x88x]

Well, I got my main system working and started folding. :D 1090T and dual GTX260's (one 216, one 196). I'm not sure the the smp flag is working or that both my cards are being used..any way to check that?

[SXRguyinMA]

use whatever card monitoring program. ATi cards you can check the usage and temps right through CCC, my 6870 is staying between 70-72ºC with 85-95% usage and no more than 32% fan speed :D

[slaveofconvention]

Well, I got my main system working and started folding. :D 1090T and dual GTX260's (one 216, one 196). I'm not sure the the smp flag is working or that both my cards are being used..any way to check that?

Scrap any and all folding clients that you're currently using (you MIGHT want to let them finish any part-done WU's first if you don't want to waste the time spent so far, then download FAH GPU Tracker v2. When installed, this will automatically re-download the CPU, SMP, GPU2 and GPU3 folding software, and will present you with a single interface for all of them - you can then have the program auto-detect GPU's and it SHOULD then pick them up and configure them (as GPU3 with Nvidia Fermi).

The GPU3 client gets the most points but it DOES use a chunk of CPU ability too - as a result you might want to do the following.

When you get back to the main screen, you simply click on Start All Clients and it'll go - it should (almost) immediately show you the clients it is running. Personally, I'd try going GPU only for an hour, then GPU and CPU to see what gets you the better results. I have a Q6700, Radeon 4870 and Nividia GTS250 in my main system and I've found that running CPU folding actually slows down the GPU folding by enough that the points I get from the CPU are less than the points I lose from the GPU, so now I only fold on the two GPUs and don't CPU fold at all.

Different systems may well produce different results but my own experience with my system (which I appreciate is substantially less powerful than yours) has resulted my setup.

I now get roughly 11k ppd on this one computer whereas it was around 9.6k when CPU was enabled...

[SXRguyinMA]

I may have to toss my spare 4870 in with my 6870 and have it fold too....seeing how it's just collecting dust :think:

[dr.walrus]

Scrap any and all folding clients that you're currently using (you MIGHT want to let them finish any part-done WU's first if you don't want to waste the time spent so far, then download FAH GPU Tracker v2. When installed, this will automatically re-download the CPU, SMP, GPU2 and GPU3 folding software, and will present you with a single interface for all of them - you can then have the program auto-detect GPU's and it SHOULD then pick them up and configure them (as GPU3 with Nvidia Fermi).

The GPU3 client gets the most points but it DOES use a chunk of CPU ability too - as a result you might want to do the following.

When you get back to the main screen, you simply click on Start All Clients and it'll go - it should (almost) immediately show you the clients it is running. Personally, I'd try going GPU only for an hour, then GPU and CPU to see what gets you the better results. I have a Q6700, Radeon 4870 and Nividia GTS250 in my main system and I've found that running CPU folding actually slows down the GPU folding by enough that the points I get from the CPU are less than the points I lose from the GPU, so now I only fold on the two GPUs and don't CPU fold at all.

Different systems may well produce different results but my own experience with my system (which I appreciate is substantially less powerful than yours) has resulted my setup.

I now get roughly 11k ppd on this one computer whereas it was around 9.6k when CPU was enabled...

That tracker is AWESOME.

It looks like my GPU setup is incompatible (unsurprisingly), but I'm getting 12,000 on the SMP alone...

[SXRguyinMA]

whats your GPU walrus? my 6 series ATi card wasn't auto-detected, but Is et it to use ATi R800 and it works perfectly

[dr.walrus]

one 4870x2 and one 4850 - i think it's the odd combination that's confusing it

[SXRguyinMA]

Can't be any more odd than Colin's 4870 and GTS250 lol

[farlo]

gpuz shows my 6850 at 97% load XD @ 48.5*c

heres my stats from starting last night at about 1am: here (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=Farlo666&teamnum=191053)

[slaveofconvention]

That tracker is AWESOME.

It looks like my GPU setup is incompatible (unsurprisingly), but I'm getting 12,000 on the SMP alone...

In the tracker, click on Setup, then Configure - in the new window which pops up, make sure GPU0 and GPU1 are ticked, then change the Force GPU Selection to ATI R800 - At this point GPU3 should tick itself. Click apply and Close. In the first main window, click on stop all clients, then start all clients and leave it for a few minutes - you should, pretty quickly, get a yellow PPD figure on the GPU's - then just do the math - see how much the CPU ppd goes down, and how much you're getting from the GPU's and make your own call on what to run or not to run to get the maximum ppd overall.

My 4870 picks up 511 point WU's and gets just under 3k per day - I'd imagine you'd be looking at around 3k on the 4780x2 (apparently it can't utilise the second core) and maybe slightly less, around 2500 on the 4850.

As for my setup being weird, I admit I changed a GPU out - I did have a 4350 in there so I was all Radeon before - I bought the GTS250 purely for folding heh

[dr.walrus]

In the tracker, click on Setup, then Configure - in the new window which pops up, make sure GPU0 and GPU1 are ticked, then change the Force GPU Selection to ATI R800 - At this point GPU3 should tick itself. Click apply and Close. In the first main window, click on stop all clients, then start all clients and leave it for a few minutes - you should, pretty quickly, get a yellow PPD figure on the GPU's - then just do the math - see how much the CPU ppd goes down, and how much you're getting from the GPU's and make your own call on what to run or not to run to get the maximum ppd overall.

My 4870 picks up 511 point WU's and gets just under 3k per day - I'd imagine you'd be looking at around 3k on the 4780x2 (apparently it can't utilise the second core) and maybe slightly less, around 2500 on the 4850.

As for my setup being weird, I admit I changed a GPU out - I did have a 4350 in there so I was all Radeon before - I bought the GTS250 purely for folding heh

The thing is, it actually crashes the client with an error message, no matter what settings are being used....

[16:36:16] Run: exception thrown during GuardedRun
[16:36:16] Run: exception thrown in GuardedRun -- Gromacs cannot continue further.

[slaveofconvention]

Hmm - no idea - I don't have the hardware to try to replicate it - the only thing that springs to mind is to disable GPU0 and enable just GPU1 - assuming the x2 is in your first PCIe slot, it may then attempt just to use the 4850 - on the off chance that it IS picking up the two cores of the 4870 as seperate GPU's, you might have to play with GPU2 as well... - trial and error and process of elimination and all that etc....

[dr.walrus]

Done, done and done. No dice. Not even just the 4850.

[slaveofconvention]

Well - worth a shot - there's every chance the CPU load of the GPU clients would have dropped the CPU PPD by most of the 5k you'd likely get from the Radeons anyway - the benefit, if there was any at all, would probably have been just a couple of percentage points.

[diluzio91]

try not enabling the gpu3 client, uncheck it... The 4 series isnt supported by GPU3

[dr.walrus]

try not enabling the gpu3 client, uncheck it... The 4 series isnt supported by GPU3

I have tested pretty much every possible combination of settings, this problem was evident before I even downloaded this application.

Doesn't matter anyway, I'll have 2x6950 in a few days, and I'm hitting 14,000 PPD on CPU alone when I'm not using my PC for anything else :)

[slaveofconvention]

When I enabled the GPU3 client on my 4870 - it still worked ok - it dropped from 2900ppd to about 2600 but it DID work.

On another note, while we may be in the mid-4000's in the rankings, we're actually in the top 400 for actual production per day AND that's still accelerating - for a new team, I think we're doing very well indeed. Once we get a couple more mid-high range nVidia's folding for us (coming soon so I've been led to believe) we'll really see some jumps....

[SXRguyinMA]

does it matter which GPU your card is on? mine defaulted to GPU2, does it make a difference?

[slaveofconvention]

I have no idea - I'm new to this - did you autodetect GPUs?

[SXRguyinMA]

nope, it did it by itself lol

[slaveofconvention]

If it aint broke, don't fix it :P

[diluzio91]

lol. the gpu number shouldnt make a difference, the the checkbox for GPU 3 might though

[x88x]

Wow, thanks. That tracker application is much easier to use. :D ...looks like I had something configured wrong before anyway, because no work units got turned in.. :think: Oh well, running with the tracker now. :D

[x88x]

Heehee, it hasn't finished any jobs yet, but it has figured out my PPD. 20,378 total for this system. :twisted:

[slaveofconvention]

Give it a couple days to settle - apparently they send out different WU's at first - my GTS450 (I think I might have referred to it as a GTS250 a couple times in this thread lol but it's a 450) was getting around 13k ppd alone initially - after about 3 days it dropped and now sits at around 8k - quite a drop. It's also worth turning off the CPU folding and seeing what you get on just the GPU's as the GPU3 client does use a chunk of CPU cycles - freeing up the CPU to JUST work the GPU3 clients can make a big difference - possibly more than you're getting on the CPU at the moment - check both then choose whichever works for you.

My system gets about 11k now, going with one GPU2 and one GPU3 only running. If I start CPU I get very little from the CPU but the GPUs lose almost 3k points so I end up worse off WITH CPU running than I am without...

[dr.walrus]

I read up about this:

A note on PPD - this will vary from project to project!

bonus points - it's up to 50% extra if you have a passkey, but only after 10 SMP WUs

[slaveofconvention]

Yeah which I'm not likely to ever qualify for with this rig - I'm running it purely on GPU which wont qualify lol - bah humbug and all that

[mDust]

Yeah which I'm not likely to ever qualify for with this rig - I'm running it purely on GPU which wont qualify lol - bah humbug and all that

Under SMP settings, select 'Use specified number of cores' and enter 3 (or total#-1). Voila! You're now SMP folding with 1 core dedicated to gpu3 assistance and other misc tasks.

A note on PPD - this will vary from project to project!
To add to this, in the Tracker, if the PPD is yellow it's an estimate, when it's green it's actual. I've noticed the yellow estimates are pretty random sometimes...both high and low.

[SXRguyinMA]

I'm getting 2801 PPD from SMP on my Q6600 @3.0GHz, and 3034 PPD on my 6870 @ 955/1140, so my CPU is doing well enough. I may toss in that spare 4870 just to fold with, but we'll see

[slaveofconvention]

I heard about that but idn if it'll help. Lets find out - right now, GPU2 and GPU3 only, the system is claiming 11,001 ppd - see what happens when I kick in SMP on 3 cores only...

Just for the hell of it, I just started my sons PC running SMP on a Athlon x2 5000 (2.6 ghz? not sure)

See what that pushes out...

[Technochicken]

I've been getting really varied results from my CPU. As some points I have gotten upwards of 2000 PPD on my Phenom II X3, but recently it has been more like 350-600 PPD, which is about 1/2 what my 1.8 Ghz core 2 duo imac gets.

[slaveofconvention]

I heard about that but idn if it'll help. Lets find out - right now, GPU2 and GPU3 only, the system is claiming 11,001 ppd - see what happens when I kick in SMP on 3 cores only...

Just for the hell of it, I just started my sons PC running SMP on a Athlon x2 5000 (2.6 ghz? not sure)

See what that pushes out...

Getting 11205 now - barely more than the old 11001 but I guess it's a small improvement - only getting 1625 on my CPU tho - dropped my GTS450 from 8k to 6.7 and I think the GPU2 on the 4870 is down by 100ppd or so too

I think I need a new PC heh

[dr.walrus]

I've been getting really varied results from my CPU. As some points I have gotten upwards of 2000 PPD on my Phenom II X3, but recently it has been more like 350-600 PPD, which is about 1/2 what my 1.8 Ghz core 2 duo imac gets.

1) Depends on the WU itself
2) f@h is prioritised so low that any other work on the PC will trash your performance. Running full screen (non-hd)TV, internet, remote desktop reduces me from ~14000 to ~2500, even though those things are very non-processor intensive
3) Are you using the SMP or the normal client? I'm assuming SMP, but that figure seems low on an X3

[Technochicken]

I'm using the SMP. I have had nothing else running for a few hours, and am getting 386 PPD. On the few previous WU's, I got in the low 500's.

[slaveofconvention]

Dropped into the 9,000's so killed the SMP client - I'll let the GPU's do the work on this machine I think heh

My son's PC is barely getting 1000 ppd so I don't think that'll be running long - might leave the software on there to work in the background when he chooses to have the pc on, but 1000ppd isn't really worth the cost of running the PC 24/7

On a seriously positive note - in the last 24 hours we produced almost 75000 points - a rate which is accelerating all the time. At that production rate, we're already in the top 200 teams based on production...

[x88x]

That does seem awfully low, Technochicken. Granted, it's not an exact comparison, but my x6 1090T has been getting around 7,500-8,000 PPD. Given that, I would guess the x3 710 should do around 35-40%.


My son's PC is barely getting 1000 ppd so I don't think that'll be running long - might leave the software on there to work in the background when he chooses to have the pc on, but 1000ppd isn't really worth the cost of running the PC 24/7

In college I ran a bunch of little P3's folding with a different project, but once I moved away from there and started paying my own electric bills....yeah, not really worth it. :P IIRC I would get less than 100 PPD out of each of them.

[slaveofconvention]

http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/slaveofconvention/images/folding/1000wu.png

Way to go guys :D

[SXRguyinMA]

:banana:


http://thebestcasescenario.com/sxrguyinma/personal/folding.png

[diluzio91]

Lol... i love how everyone uses all cpu meter....

[mDust]

Lol... i love how everyone uses all cpu meter....

Heh, I noticed that too. I also use it. Works great.

[AmEv]

GAAK!

Just looked at my stats page.


It said I haven't completed any for TBCS.
(No, I haven't folded for the other guys in a long time)


???

[diluzio91]

if you didnt finish the wu in time you may not have gotten credit for it

[AmEv]

I think it said it fully transmitted to the F@H server.....


Ah well. Let's see how this next WU goes........

[x88x]

w00tz! We've passed 4,000! :D

EDIT:
Also, I got my backup system up and running, contributing ~5,200 ppd per GTS250, and ..~200 ppd from the CPU... ...yeah... Oh well, 200 is 200, and all that system is doing is folding, so it should put out a solid ~10,600 ppd. :D

[diluzio91]

so, interestingly... i looked, and if we keep up our 25k+ rate, we could hit pretty high, alot of the higher teams don't have the points rate we have...

[x88x]

Yeah, that's one thing I've been noticing is that a lot of the teams we're blowing past look like they used to be active (or they wouldn't have as many points as they do), but are stagnating if not completely stopped, going off their average 24-hour rate. Looking at the stats, I don't think we'll see any real competition until we get well past the 1,000. Even there, the concentration of really active teams is fairly low. ..that being said, it will probably take us a little while to get there, simply because of the sheer number of points that teams at that level have. Even if the EOC estimate is right (which it definitely won't be if we keep getting more power at this rate :twisted: ), it'll probably take us a few months to get to that point (current team 1,000 has 5,479,363 points atm, vs our current 735,381).

[pcclan]

hmm if we get 50 people to at least do 8000 ppd we can catch up in about 15 days :P

[billygoat333]

I joined in, folding nice and slowly on my laptop! lol intel t6500 ftw!!

gonna throw my x2 4200 - 4870 in the mix. (maybe someday I will have my i7-960 running, and when not playing games I'll have it folding)

on a side note, would my 8600gts 512mb fare better than my 4870 1gb? nvidia seems to be much better at folding... (my limited HP mATX mobo only has one pci-express slot lol)

[slaveofconvention]

You should see between 3 and 4k from the 4870 - the 8600 looks like it'd be under 2k but might be worth trying

[pcclan]

i have my gtx 460 folding

[billygoat333]

man... my 4870 is killing my x2 athlon... lol. getting about 2,500 ppd on it so far... the stupid thing is cooking though, running around 90c so I throttled it to only using 80% of the gpu.

EDIT: my lappy is kicking out about 1400ppd too, not too shabby, better than I expected!

[slaveofconvention]

I have to give my 4870 some cooling kudos - it's sitting in the mid-60's temp wise, having been running folding 24/7 for over a week - and the fans are below 60% too.

Gainward HD 4870 Golden Sample Edition 512MB GDDR5 DVI HDCP PCI-E Graphics Card


http://resources.vr-zone.com//newspics/Aug08/20/gainward_4870_2.jpg

[x88x]

lol...sometimes I forget what air temps are like...I was upset that one of my 260's was hitting 54C. :P ...forgot to replace the quicky-generic-thermal-paste job with AS5 before reassembling...otherwise it would be in the mid 40's.

[Oneslowz28]

Well my brother in-law just converted his desktop to an HTPC since he has a bad ass MSI gaming laptop now. So I will be throwing my 8800 GTS 512 and a GT240 in my HAF X along with my 2 5870s and my Phenom II X4 965 BE @4.01 Ghz Should be good for about 20k PPD

[Airbozo]

I don't have time to figure out the MP software, but if we can get the clients working right, I will have 160 cpu's to fold on for a couple of days (and possibly double that). I can justify it by calling it a "burn in". The ETA for these systems is the end of April and if I time it right I can have them fold, er uh, Burn IN, for a long weekend.

Here is a link to the hardware:

http://www.supermicro.com/servers/blade/TwinBlade/

10 twin blades = 4 cpu's per chassis.
Right now the order is for 4 chassis but may get bumped to 8!

To get the F@H software working might take access to a MP system, and I can ask my IT guy to setup a VPN tunnel to an MP machine at my desk for someone to check out the client with.

If anyone is interested, let me know.

EDIT: We will be using the E5640's...

[Oneslowz28]

WOW That would be pretty awesome!

[Oneslowz28]

Well I have tried to install the F@H Tracker and every time it begins downloading the clients it will not start the CPU/SMP client download. I have had this problem on 4 different machines now, 2 of them being on 10Mb connections. Anyone else have problems?

[x88x]

When I set up my second machine, it wouldn't start the CPU client download until after the GPU clients were already downloaded, but other than that, no. Strange.

[dr.walrus]

When I set up my second machine, it wouldn't start the CPU client download until after the GPU clients were already downloaded, but other than that, no. Strange.
same

[Oneslowz28]

It would dl both of the GPU clients and would try to start the CPU for about 90 seconds then would throw up a "Unable to download client(s)" error in the log window.

[x88x]

Weird....well, one workaround for that would be to run it once on a system that the download works, then copy that whole directory to other systems. Then you just have to start it and configure it for each system instead of having to re-download it each time.

On another note, I was wondering about something. Back when I was folding with BOINC, they had stats pages for each participant, that showed what projects they were contributing to, how much they had contributed to each project, what systems they were using, recent production stats for those systems, and so on. Is there anything like that with FAH? Mainly, I want some sort of way to verify that all of my systems are actually checking in WUs...heck, a few times, the only way I knew a system had died was because it stopped submitting WUs. :P

[Oneslowz28]

I think that we get those stats once we reach the top 800 teams

How big is the directory folder? Someone zip it and email it to cgantt@cjganttphotography.com

[x88x]

I ran across this tool. It's handy for keeping track of your various clients. You just point it at the install directories for all your clients and it checks the FAHlog.txt files every now and then, and figures out the various statusy-stuff.
http://fahmon.net/

What I did for monitoring my other systems is just have the FAH stuff in a shared directory, then mount the share on my main system, and point fahmon at that. ..it does take a while to figure out some of the columns...but I don't think that's any different with the tracker either.

[Oneslowz28]

Oh and BTW we are only 15k ppd from breaking the 100k ppd barrier.

[pcclan]

hmm quick question why is my score so high ? yet i only have 27 wu ?

[x88x]

Different types of WUs are worth different numbers of points, so that weak little processors can still be semi-useful, and big, powerful GPUs can really flex their muscles. One of the things you can set is if you want your client to ask for big jobs, little ones, or something in the middle. I'm assuming yours is asking for big jobs.

[pcclan]

so do you think a 460 gtx can flex alot of muscle

[x88x]

Yeah, should do. :D

[dr.walrus]

Different types of WUs are worth different numbers of points, so that weak little processors can still be semi-useful, and big, powerful GPUs can really flex their muscles. One of the things you can set is if you want your client to ask for big jobs, little ones, or something in the middle. I'm assuming yours is asking for big jobs.
Yeah, I have mine configured with smaller WUs - And used to have it configeured for very small WUs, hence my low score per WU

[TheMainMan]

On another note, I was wondering about something. Back when I was folding with BOINC, they had stats pages for each participant, that showed what projects they were contributing to, how much they had contributed to each project, what systems they were using, recent production stats for those systems, and so on. Is there anything like that with FAH? Mainly, I want some sort of way to verify that all of my systems are actually checking in WUs...heck, a few times, the only way I knew a system had died was because it stopped submitting WUs. :P

FAH Tracker V2 has a stats feature that will tell you a whole bunch and can be broken down by individual client. If you've already got you clients then going here (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=191053) and clicking on your user name will at least give you the last submitted (which isn't going to help if you've got multiple machines running and one dies)

[Oneslowz28]

Ok I have tried downloading the tracker again. Now I have tried on 5 different machines and none would download the CPU core. If someone would be kind enough to zip up their tracker directory and email it to me I would appreciate it. cgantt@thebestcasescenario.com

[slaveofconvention]

I'll have a look when I get home but I'm pretty sure it's HUGE and way too much for the average email - might be worth just trying to get the missing parts from someone else - if it's the CPU client it's struggling with - maybe just that?

[Oneslowz28]

Where does it download the files to? I can only find the exe

[Airbozo]

ftp it....

[diluzio91]

just looked at the ek page, there are 4 teams with our level of output between us and the 800's.... and 3 are university computer labs running

[SXRguyinMA]

cheaters!

[slaveofconvention]

The tracker doesnt actually install in the usual (attack the registry and try to take over half of the puter) way - no shared dlls or other nonsense - the way I installed it is to save the FAH GPU Tracker v2 file into a folder of the same name directly in my user area, the when you run it, first time it'll expand the hell out of itself - mine currently sits at 236 files, in 27 folders, totalling 208mb (like I said, bit big for an email) - I just ran the file again in a new directory, just for the hell of it, and brand new, it's 69 files, 11 folders and 142mb but I zipped it all up, and got it down to 35.5mb.

I've uploaded it to my TBCS server space and you SHOULD be able to get it from http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/slaveofconvention/cj2.zip - simply extract that zip file into a folder somewhere on your computer, then create a shortcut to the FAH GPU Tracker V2 exectutable and see if that works.... It's still a substantial download, but it's better than the 208mb I had originally lol

Now I just hope it works lol

[x88x]

which isn't going to help if you've got multiple machines running and one dies
This. ;)

The fahmon program that I found and posted is working quite well for me. It wouldn't help if I had systems that I didn't have network file access to, but for the way I'm working now, it's fine. :D


Oh, and CJ, I sent you the directory all nice and rar'd up. It does start out as 140MB after you run the program initially, but if you use a good archival algorithm, it shrinks a lot. Gzip2 could only get it down to ~30MB, and Izarc crashed when I tried to do an LZMA 7z, but Winrar got it down to ~24MB..just under the 25MB gmail limit. :D

[slaveofconvention]

Another convenient way of looking at the stats... If you sort the rankings purely by points produced today, we're 174th!

If you sort by either change 7 days or change 24 hours, we're SECOND :P

We are, bar ONE, the fastest rising team in the whole shebang :D

[x88x]

If you sort by either change 7 days or change 24 hours, we're SECOND :P

We are, bar ONE, the fastest rising team in the whole shebang :D

Heheh, yup. :D

Plus, the first fastest rising team (ASRC (http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=202970)) has only one member... 'Anonymous'...and if you go to their website, it's a research center at the University of Albany..so I think I'm probably safe in saying, that teams is probably comprised of a bunch of lab computers, at the moment.

So, I think I should be safe in saying; as of right now, we are the fastest rising team of individuals (by quite a bit). :D Yay us! :banana:

[x88x]

:eek: Holy.....I just noticed something about that ASRC team... They have 1,483,941 points....from 51 WUs... :eek: Those are some ridiculously large WUs...

[mDust]

:eek: Holy.....I just noticed something about that ASRC team... They have 1,483,941 points....from 51 WUs... :eek: Those are some ridiculously large WUs...

If you enable -bigadv, the WUs are potentially around a 100MB each, take many times longer to complete and are worth something like 25k points each (before any bonuses). I'd enable that if my internet were faster but I'd finish one over the course of a week only to find out it's going to take another week just to upload.:dead:

[x88x]

Hmmm, might be worth enabling...I'll have to make my ramdisk bigger though.. :think:

[mDust]

Hmmm, might be worth enabling...I'll have to make my ramdisk bigger though.. :think:

Does one really need a reason to make their ram disk bigger?;)
I plan on grabbing another 8GB for mine. I figure 6GB of ram and 10GB dedicated to my ram disk ought to do it. I'll figure out what I need it for after it's set up. It never occurred to me to fold off of it.:think: I wonder if there would be any PPD increase...even if it were small. It's hard to think of a reason why it wouldn't be worth it.:up:

[x88x]

Mainly I fold off of my ramdisk for the same reason that I run firefox off of it...so that it's not constantly writing stuff to my SSDs. I think tonight I'm gonna change all my GPUs over to bigadv and up my ramdisk to 768MB...see if that works...

[Oneslowz28]

Well I got the tracker that you guys uploaded installed. I think I have it set up right. if I enable GPU0 and GPU1 it just sits there on 0% for hours

[x88x]

Did you do the 'auto-detect' thing for the GPUs in the configure window? It shouldn't take it more than ~20 minutes or so for it to figure out what it's doing with any of the clients. Is there anything in the logs about the GPU clients?

[mDust]

Mainly I fold off of my ramdisk for the same reason that I run firefox off of it...so that it's not constantly writing stuff to my SSDs. I think tonight I'm gonna change all my GPUs over to bigadv and up my ramdisk to 768MB...see if that works...

Ah, I've got FAH installed on a HDD, with FF configured to cache right between it and all the windows temp crap for the same reason. I was just wondering about how the calculations were performed. I hope it's not waiting on my HDD to spin up every 10 minutes.


Well I got the tracker that you guys uploaded installed. I think I have it set up right. if I enable GPU0 and GPU1 it just sits there on 0% for hours ATI or nVidia cards? You may need to force some ATI cards to fold. If the 'auto-detect' doesn't work, try updating the clients from the setup menu.

[x88x]

Ah, I've got FAH installed on a HDD

No HDD in my system. :D

[DynamoNED]

People, I'm happy to report that we officially have over 1million points for the team!
Right now, we have 1,005,005 points; let's get to 2 million even faster!

[x88x]

http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/slaveofconvention/images/folding/1000000points.png

:banana:

[Technochicken]

Well done, everyone! Keep those WU's coming.

[billygoat333]

I slowed down, my desktop decided that it really, REALLY wanted to update to xp SP3. not that I was contributing that much in the first place, but my lappy can't keep up with my 4870 lol... and I think my media drive took a stroll down broken worthless paperweight lane... it isn't showing up in the bios anymore :( :( :(

(and I tried different sata power and data cables, and different sata ports on the MOBO, still no go. weak. )

[diluzio91]

lol... i like how on days my friends and i play games for 5 or 6 hours our production drops, then shoots back up.

[x88x]

w00tz! Passed 3,000! :D
:banana: :banana:

[billygoat333]

I was just thinking it would be cool but utterly impractical for a smartphone folding app.

Haha and go us! :banana:

[Technochicken]

^ That would make a great pocket heater in the winter- especially if you have an android phone and overclocked it as well.:D

[AmEv]

Hot hands provide 10 hours of heat.
This smart phone app provides 2 hours of extreme heat, and saves the world at the same time.

[diluzio91]

WOW.... I love my new Gpu already

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/206730_10150147905323426_601993425_6641056_6401892 _n.jpg

[x88x]

Wow, nice! What GPU is that?

[dr.walrus]

Wow, nice! What GPU is that?
http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?p=323598#post323598

[diluzio91]

my evga 560 ti clocked at 900mhz

[x88x]

Niiiice. :D

[diluzio91]

cant wait for that i7 to get here..... lol

[billygoat333]

I have an i7 960... currently using it (in the box, still new) for a stand for my laptop on my desk. I curse being broke... haha. I really need to save up for a MOBO and some ram. I just have been spending on other things lately... like a trip to vegas in april... mmm.

[Oneslowz28]

Well since a recent project finished up at work and I was given a large bonus, I decided to treat myself to a nice late b-day present. I just ordered a 980X, 4 EVGA 580s and a new Gigabyte Mobo with 4 PCIe 16x slots.... Guess whos going to post 50k ppd? Also got 4 256gb SSD that I am going to RAID 0 for the OS... can we say FAST?

[dr.walrus]

a 980X, 4 EVGA 580s and a new Gigabyte Mobo with 4 PCIe 16x slots.... Guess whos going to post 50k ppd? Also got 4 256gb SSD that I am going to RAID 0 for the OS... can we say FAST?

CAN I GET A HELL YEAH?!

[mDust]

Well since a recent project finished up at work and I was given a large bonus, I decided to treat myself to a nice late b-day present. I just ordered a 980X, 4 EVGA 580s and a new Gigabyte Mobo with 4 PCIe 16x slots.... Guess whos going to post 50k ppd? Also got 4 256gb SSD that I am going to RAID 0 for the OS... can we say FAST?

That is disgusting. I say that out of jealousy of course.:D I expect to see you at #1 on the TBCS folding list in less than 2 weeks! Get to it.
Also, don't forget to post nice, big pics somewhere too.:)

[diluzio91]

cj.... if you dont watercool that setup. i will disown you. lol... back to 5th place for me i guess.

[slaveofconvention]

Well since a recent project finished up at work and I was given a large bonus, I decided to treat myself to a nice late b-day present. I just ordered a 980X, 4 EVGA 580s and a new Gigabyte Mobo with 4 PCIe 16x slots.... Guess whos going to post 50k ppd? Also got 4 256gb SSD that I am going to RAID 0 for the OS... can we say FAST?

Oh man our members are SO gullible lol - *raises eyebrow*

The DATE people, the DATE!!!! LOL

[mDust]

Oh man our members are SO gullible lol - *raises eyebrow*

The DATE people, the DATE!!!! LOL

Awwww! But....but...

If it's a joke, you're all dead to me.:mad:

[diluzio91]

Awwww! But....but...

If it's a joke, you're all dead to me.:mad:

^
what he said

[AmEv]

The Coriolis effect will make your CDs spin the wrong way!