I have Diabetes :(

[Oneslowz28]

This past weekend while bending over to move my grill my back caught me again. I wound up in my bed looking at the ceiling for 3 days. Well it happened again yesterday so I called the spine doctor that I had been refereed to and he told me to come on in and he would figure out whats causing it. So I get there around 11:30am and the nurse begins all of the first time patient work such as my vitals, height, weight, etc. Well one of the things they a record of is your blood glucose level. When she took mine it was at 423. She checked it with a second meter just to be sure and it was at 418. They stopped the exam right there and advised me to get to the hospital ER ASAP. So we left there and headed strait to the ER. They took me strait back and took my blood glucose again, This time it read 410. I had not ate anything since 8am that morning so they decided to run a full blood workup on me.

So the final verdict is that I have Diabetes, I still have no idea why my back is catching me, and I have to change my whole lifestyle once again.

2 years ago I was told that I was boarder line hypertensive which means I was on the way to having high blood pressure. So I modified my diet greatly, cut out 99% of the bacon and fried foods I was eating. I got that under control in less than a year. The Dr I was under then was really great on advising me about what I needed to do.

The Dr. at the ER yesterday was very vague on the diet I needed to switch to. His only advice was to stop eating white bread and switch to whole grain wheat. I called and set up an appointment with my normal doc, but he will not be able to see me until July 15th. So does anyone here have Diabetes? What should I avoid eating other than high sugar foods which is a given.


I do still walk, Not every day but at least 3 times a week. Average is about 2.75 miles each session. I think I am going to go back to 3 miles a day 5 days a week and get my ass into the gym for more working out.

[TheMainMan]

I don't have diabetes myself but have worked at a camp where we do three weeks of camp for kids with diabetes. A great resource is the Canadian Diabetes Association (http://www.diabetes.ca/) website which has a great amount of intro info. If you need anything specific give me a PM as I have a number of contacts I can use.

[Fuganater]

Sorry to hear that bud. All this time we thought you were avoiding us.

I know my dad had diabetes but he had gastic bypass surgury and that got rid of it mostly. I know my mom policed his diet like crazy.

[xr4man]

diabetes scares me.

good luck finding your new diet.

[SgtM]

Dude, that sucks. Did they tell you whether you're type I or type II? My dad is diabetic, and has been able to control his blood sugar rather well just by adjusting his diet.

[Oneslowz28]

The ER doc said it was Type II but said that my normal doc would make the final judgement. I have a specialist I have to go to as well and a visit to the dietician will be in my future I bet.

Thank for the well wishes. I really think I will be able to keep things under control. I just have to lay off the waffles at breakfast and all the fast food I eat.

[Snowman]

Let's see where to start, cut out milk and orange juice, pretty much all carbs and starches because they turn to sugar, white lean meat since it seems red meat would be a no no, small meals with healthy snacks between meals. Big thing here will be somethings advertised for diabetics aren't really the best thing for you. If you can get a dietitian that isn't focused on just getting you skinny and is focused on making you healthy that would be best. The other big problem both my families have had with diabetes is eating when they didn't want to because they had to keep their sugar levels level.

[dr.walrus]

Sorry to hear about that, you're still young so it should be manageable by diet hopefully.

Everyone's said all there is really - it's carbs you need to avoid. No soda, no cakes, seriously limit bread (well everything made with white flour), seriously limit potatoes/white rice, don't go mad on anything too carbalicious. Oats in the morning are great for that actually.

And like Snowman says, portion size is really important to maintain blod sugar. Double your number of meals and halve the size. And yeah, definitely liquids are a proper hidden source of carbs - orange juice, soda, milk, all that stuff with turn straight into blood sugar.

The good news is, you'll probably lose a ton of weight and start feeling much better with dietary changes alone, and if you keep exercising, you'll probably be able to limit the effects considerably.

Good luck!

[TheMainMan]

I don't know if you drink but alcohol (http://www.diabetes.ca/files/CDAAlcoholFinal.pdf) is another one that needs to be seriously managed. In my experience it's the one that most young diabetics ignore/forget about.

[Snowman]

Oh also I forgot. No matter what a stripper tells you, there is no sex in the champagne room.

[dr.walrus]

Oh also I forgot. No matter what a stripper tells you, there is no sex in the champagne room.
LOL

[DarthBeavis]

sorry you are sick but this should make you laugh and feel better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hNu1I9r_1A

[dr.walrus]

sorry you are sick but this should make you laugh and feel better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hNu1I9r_1A
I am ashamed I didn't think of this first

[x88x]

Sorry to hear that CJ; that sucks. That said, my mom was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes a few years, and since she started managing her diet and lifestyle to keep the diabetes under control she has been a lot happier and had a lot more energy. Hopefully this will have a similar positive turn for you.

...oh, and yeah...the first thing I think of whenever I hear about diabetes is still Wilford Brimley.. :whistler:

[Twigsoffury]

i think you need to cut out a lot of the sugar and sugar based substances like sucrose,glucose,fructose (HFCS),cane sugar, brown sugar, GM sugar and black girls callin your "Sugah"

I think you also want to take the pills and not injections as you'll become dependent on the injections and there's also some other reasons.


excerise,excerise,excerise and that'll help get your bsl's in check, i might goto wal-greens or a local pharmacy and get yourself a diabetes tester, the digital ones are really sweet, the pharmacy tech ought to be able to help you to understand how to use them, but they are pretty straight forward, but that'll help you manage your Bsl while you get that appointment with your doctor.

I might also call his a@# back and tell him its a emergency visit because of the nature of the diagnosis and see if he can fit you in a little sooner then next month.

this might also help

http://diabetes.webmd.com/how-sugar-affects-diabetes

I'm no doctor and i don't have a great understanding of diabetes. but i can say 400+ is a almost ridiculous number.



The American Diabetes Association's goals for glucose control in people with diabetes are sugar levels of 70 to 130 mg/dL before meals, and less than 180 mg/dL after meals.

[Oneslowz28]

I checked my blood sugar levels 4 times yesterday. The first time was when I first woke up, it was at 120ish, then around 11am which was about 30 min after a snack of an apple and 0 calorie poweraid. It was around 200ish then. I ate a subway club on wheat for lunch and around 3pm my blood sugar was around 190. Last night 2.5 hours after a dinner of Grilled chicken breast, corn on the cob, and some green beans it was 183.

45 minutes ago it was at 105. I have set up a diabetes friendly meal plan for the next 2 weeks. I am sure some of it is not 100% good for me but until I discuss it with a dietitian I wont have a solid plan that's 100% ok. I am moving to a 6 meal/day plan monday - friday and a 4 meal plan on the weekends with very light snacks between meals.

Today its:

Breakfast - 2 Eggs, 2 Wheat Toast, and Lean "Country" Ham. Black Coffee
Snack 1 - Banana and Fruit Cup and water.
Lunch - 6" Tuna Sub on Wheat, Small salad and 0 Calorie Power Aid
Snack 2 - Lance Nip Cheese Crackers and Water.
Dinner - Caesar Salad, Steak, and Steamed Asparagus, Less Sweet Tea (I usually use 1.5 cups of sugar per gallon. Now using 1 cup per gallon.)
Snack 3 - Apple and Water

[Snowman]

Hate to be debbie downer but that sugar used for sweetening your tea is a big no no. Look for one of the substitutes like splenda or that new one truvia I think. The fruit cup unless its home made is stewed in HFCS and will jack you up. Just some friendly input dude as high blood sugar levels can cause miniature strokes in some diabetics.

[dr.walrus]

Hate to be debbie downer but that sugar used for sweetening your tea is a big no no. Look for one of the substitutes like splenda or that new one truvia I think. The fruit cup unless its home made is stewed in HFCS and will jack you up. Just some friendly input dude as high blood sugar levels can cause miniature strokes in some diabetics.
yep, reducing that sugar isn't good enough, you need to remove it altogether

[Kayin]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v310/KayinStorm/diabeetus_Pic_Dump_1-s470x555-168584-580.jpg

(Sorry, had to. My family has a lot of diabetes. Taken a few of them, in fact. Take care of yourself!)

[RogueOpportunist]

That sucks, sorry to hear it dude. :(

[Kayin]

For those that don't know, Wilford Brimley (the gentleman shopped into the pic above) is a well-known diabetes spokesman and actor.
I think that CJ has a good grip on what to do here, and I hope that we never have to shop CJ's head onto a shirt about diabetes posthumously. Because we will.

Feel better, man.

[Xpirate]

Five years ago, I had a doctor tell me that she found sugar in my urine. I told her that the tech must have accidentally put donut crumbs in it. I never will forget the chewing I received after that from both the doctor and my wife.

My blood sugar level was over 300. I had to have my gall bladder removed. So when I received the news that I am diabetic, I also got a whole lot more bad news. I also had bad enzymes in my liver. I semi-politely told her to just dish out one shocking revelation at a time. She did not think that was funny either.

I completely gave up beverages with sugar. All I drink now is water and milk. After I lost 60 pounds, I had to stop taking the medication because it would drop my sugar level too low. Now I am controlled with diet alone.

I know that it sucks to hear this news now. It sucked for me to hear it five years ago. But I live a whole lot healthier lifestyle now and I have maintained it for five years. I hope you can see that as a positive the way that I have.

Also a word of warning, when you are in pain or under a lot of stress, that rotten number goes up. Mine has been up because I have been under constant fire at work lately.

[Twigsoffury]

yep, reducing that sugar isn't good enough, you need to remove it altogether

ya back to my previous post about not only cutting out sugar. but sucrose fructose glucose and other forms of sugar.


I'd recommend stevia, its a 100% natural sugar free sweetner based from sunflowers or some crap like that, tastes almost like cane sugar. its aspartame free and all that fun stuff. so no worries about tumors and growths from consuming tons and tons of diet soda.


on the flip side of things i'm allergic to aspartame (artifical sweeteners) they give me the runs and rediculous headaches.

i'm like a anti-diabetic. which go figures since i'm 5'7" 121lbs.

[Xpirate]

Less Sweet Tea (I usually use 1.5 cups of sugar per gallon. Now using 1 cup per gallon.)

I have to agree with other people on this thread. I completely gave up all sugar in liquid form. That was dang hard because I was addicted to Dr. Pepper and I also liked sweetened tea. It is impossible to cut out ALL sugar, but we have to minimize the intake. Milk still has carbohydrates, so I only drink about a cup a day.

Almonds are supposed good for diabetics. I eat a few servings every day.

You're on the right track though. I eat 5 small meals a day just like you are doing. My wife pointed out that eating healthy cost more money. She buys "south beach diet" stuff for me to eat because it minimizes carbohydrates.

Carbohydrates is what brings up your glucose levels.

[x88x]

My wife pointed out that eating healthy cost more money.
Not really. Pre-made stuff, yeah, sure, but as with any food, healthy or not, you can either spend money or time. If you prepare all your food yourself eating healthy isn't really any more expensive than eating unhealthy. And if you go from buying pre-made unhealthy food to preparing your own healthy food, it'll actually be cheaper.

[Snowman]

Not really. Pre-made stuff, yeah, sure, but as with any food, healthy or not, you can either spend money or time. If you prepare all your food yourself eating healthy isn't really any more expensive than eating unhealthy. And if you go from buying pre-made unhealthy food to preparing your own healthy food, it'll actually be cheaper.

Depends on where you live. Local prices on fruits and vegetables while trying to feed a family of four is quite costly. When you compare it to lets see pressed and formed chicken nuggets enough to feed a whole family at roughly the price of a good bell pepper to feed one person it is a pain. The only thing that keeps my mom in vegetables this time of year is her vegetable garden. On this front at least CJ lucked out.

[Twigsoffury]

Depends on where you live. Local prices on fruits and vegetables while trying to feed a family of four is quite costly. When you compare it to lets see pressed and formed chicken nuggets enough to feed a whole family at roughly the price of a good bell pepper to feed one person it is a pain. The only thing that keeps my mom in vegetables this time of year is her vegetable garden. On this front at least CJ lucked out.

Bannana at wal-mart neighborhood market? 97 cents

Bannana at the small latino market down the street 37 cents.

[Snowman]

Bannana at wal-mart neighborhood market? 97 cents

Bannana at the small latino market down the street 37 cents.

Like I said I can buy enough pressed and formed generic brand chicken nuggets from Meijer for 99 cents, and the closest farmers market that is regularly open is roughly a 45 minute drive.

[Mach]

Sorry to hear about the news CJ. On a positive note, several of my friends/family have diabetes and are able to control it with diet alone.

[Beta-brain]

New research just released in the UK says that type 2 diabetes can be reversed by nothing more than a severe low-calorie diet.
(http://uk.news.yahoo.com/severe-low-calorie-diet-reverses-diabetes-231427394.html)
Researchers say the "remarkable" discovery proves that a simple eight-week diet can do away with the need for years of expensive medication.

This discovery might seem a bit simplistic but for years Peptic ulcers were operated on and many people suffered with them for years before some Australian researchers discovered they were caused by bacteria and could be treated with drugs that killed the bacteria so here's hoping this new treatment works.

[Twigsoffury]

New research just released in the UK says that type 2 diabetes can be reversed by nothing more than a severe low-calorie diet.
(http://uk.news.yahoo.com/severe-low-calorie-diet-reverses-diabetes-231427394.html)
Researchers say the "remarkable" discovery proves that a simple eight-week diet can do away with the need for years of expensive medication.

This discovery might seem a bit simplistic but for years Peptic ulcers were operated on and many people suffered with them for years before some Australian researchers discovered they were caused by bacteria and could be treated with drugs that killed the bacteria so here's hoping this new treatment works.


or... you could just get off your lazy a@# and exercise for 45 minutes every other day.



could be treated with drugs that killed the bacteria

Yay! menicillin/penicillin resistant H. pylori.P bacteria here we come!!!!

[Snowman]

or... you could just get off your lazy a@# and exercise for 45 minutes every other day.

Unfortunately just exercising may not do it. They are actually putting the body into borderline starvation causing it to use up it's fatty stores. The amount of exercise you would have to do to go into this state would consume your every waking moment.

[Twigsoffury]

Unfortunately just exercising may not do it.

and unfortunately just diet alone may not do it.

in fact it won't do it.

maybe temporarily it'll reduce your weight, but you'll put it back on later. almost 90% of individuals who lose weight thought dieting put it back on (and more often then not more then before) with in 5 years.

like my ex, she was 144lbs when we split. i guess she got lazy and now has to be well over 220lbs.

[Snowman]

and unfortunately just diet alone may not do it.

in fact it won't do it.

maybe temporarily it'll reduce your weight, but you'll put it back on later. almost 90% of individuals who lose weight thought dieting put it back on (and more often then not more then before) with in 5 years.

like my ex, she was 144lbs when we split. i guess she got lazy and now has to be well over 220lbs.

It is not about losing weight, it is about depleting the fat stores in an internal organ. I know a lot of type 2's that are skinny as a bean pole but that doesn't mean they are healthy. It isn't a diet to control diabetes it is a possible cure by trimming the fat from the organ not the BMI.

[Xpirate]

Diet is more important than exercise for controlling type 2 diabetes. Exercise helps because your body burns more carbohydrates when it is being used (this is why you can't just cut carbs out completely). However, it is a whole lot easier to just lower your intake of carbohydrates in the first place.

Oneslowz28 is following the diabetic diet with 5 to 6 small meals a day. The smaller portions and fewer carbs will make a person loose some weight. I lost 60 pounds in about 4 or 5 months after being diagnosed with type 2. After all that weight was lost, I can control mine with diet alone.

Keeping that weight off and staying in control with just diet requires a lifestyle change. I am certain that our friend who started this thread can do it.

[CorsePerVita]

Sorry to hear this man :( I know really nothing about diabetes, but I read a little about it. I am very sorry to hear this :(

[Oneslowz28]

I have a lengthy reply to post but dont feel like typing it right now. I am 7 hours into a 12 hour BBQ roast and am about as tired as one can get.