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xmastree
04-27-2006, 05:52 AM
Waht's the best way to prep a textured surface like this:

http://www.lotechdesigns.com/host/images/9226texture.jpg

for painting? I don't want to lose that texture if possible, although I suspect the paint might not sit too well on it, and run into the channels anyway.

It's the frame for the front panel on this:

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f341/chrispollard/386/before.jpg

There's some damage to the top left side, so smooth may be the way to go.
http://www.lotechdesigns.com/host/thumbs/2798damage.jpg (http://www.lotechdesigns.com/host/images/2798damage.jpg)
I was thinking about using body filler then sanding it until I can see the pattern starting to show. That would give me an indication that it's even.

I'm planning to use acrylic from an aerosol. Metallic blue.

Rankenphile
04-27-2006, 11:38 AM
I'm not an expert when it comes to painting, so bear that in mind and take my advice with a grain of salt.

Your first step for painting this piece should be to clean it thoroughly. Soap and water should take care of it.

For that damaged edge, body filler should work fine. In order to preserve the texture, look for something, like a strip of leather, that has a similar texture. Sand the edge there and apply your body filler in a very thin stroke over the sanded area, let the filler set for a few minutes, then apply the leather carefully but firmly over the filler, pressing to apply the texture to the surface. Note that this will ruin the leather, obviously, so don't use your jacket or anything. Peel the leather off slowly and inspect the work. Use sandpaper along the edges to smooth things together and, with any luck, you should have a relatively seamless texture.

Your next step would be primer. Any primer should work, as long as it is compatible with your final paint - latex primer for latex, enamel primer for enamel, etc etc etc. Apply very light coats and build them up - if you apply them too heavy they will pool and you will start losing your texture. Next, apply your paint color using the same method - many thin light coats is preferable to one or two heavy ones. Take your time. Final step would be clearcoating, done the same way.

Since the surface is textured, you can't exactly sand the paint dow to get a high-gloss shine, but you can certainly buff between applications with a sturdy rag.

I may be way off base, and I'm not exactly sure how well body filler would accept a texture from leather - this advice is purely educated guesses, not first-hand experience. Hopefully some of our more experienced gurus can weigh in on this, as well - I'm just tossing some ideas out there for you.

Have fun!

The Modfather
04-28-2006, 04:52 AM
Hmmm... Good tips from Ranken there. I'd really think that going smooth might even be a nicer approach. As much as I always loved the Deskpro look, the rough finish never did much for me. When I had mine (back when it was bleeding edge stuff) we had a show we were working at and one of the guests was Boris Vallejo, I'm sure you're probably familiar with him. Anyway he put on a little workshop and I asked if he'd like to paint my case for that workshop and he thought it'd be a fun idea. So for years I had this amazing Boris case, same case you've got there, it was smooth after the paint and I had it cleared but before he painted it what I did was strip it completely, use filler (bondo) and sanded that nice and smooth, then primered it and sanded it about 5 or 6 times to prep it for him to paint on. I then took it to an automotive place (Maaco) to have it cleared. Looked amazing. I wish I'd had the brains to NOT have let the thing sit in an apartment that I shared with roomates so they could steal it and screw me over.

xmastree
04-28-2006, 08:09 AM
Boris Vallejo, I'm sure you're probably familiar with him.:? Nope. Googling reveals some nice (if you like that kind of thing) art though.

use filler (bondo) and sanded that nice and smooth, then primered it and sanded it about 5 or 6 times to prep it for him to paint on. I then took it to an automotive place (Maaco) to have it cleared.What do you mean by 'cleared'? :?

Should I do anything to help the bondo to stick in the first place?

OvRiDe
04-28-2006, 10:01 PM
Hammerite paint might work for ya. If you wanting it textured that is. I dont think it will be the exact same texture but they do have a hammered finish.
http://www.hammerite-automotive.com/

xmastree
04-28-2006, 10:58 PM
Well, I've smoothed the damaged part a little, and I'm currently putting primer on it. I have some metallic blue to go on after that, followed by clear coat.

I'll probably make a mess of it, I'm crap at painting. I think I'm too impatient, and put too much on at once. This time I'm doing it slowly, one light coat about every half hour, and it's stting baking in the sun.

I'm dreading doing the cover, so much so that I might have it done professionaly.

xmastree
04-29-2006, 12:04 AM
Looks good in the sun...

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f341/chrispollard/386/metallic.jpg

Shame it'll end up sitting under my desk. :(

CanaBalistic
04-29-2006, 05:03 AM
That looks really good but you should bake it in your oven after each coat. Dont melt it but make sure it gets hot then put it in a deepfreeze after or let it air cool if you dont have one. it will make the paint super hard and way more resitant to scratching and flaking in the first few days of its life

xmastree
04-29-2006, 05:59 AM
Hmm, I don't have an oven... I left it in the sun though. Will that help?

The Modfather
04-29-2006, 06:53 AM
You don't have an oven? Hmm, that's odd... clearing it just means apply clear coat to it.

xmastree
04-29-2006, 06:58 AM
Well, I have a real small one, but it's not big enough for this.

b4i7
04-29-2006, 12:03 PM
is this your oven?

http://easybakeovenlol.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/oven.jpg

The Modfather
04-30-2006, 05:44 AM
tsk tsk, that's cold. :) er, I mean, that's mean. :) haha.

xmastree
04-30-2006, 06:40 AM
I wouldn't know, I can't see it... Tripod.

It's something like this:
http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/te/tefal-maxi-oven-&-grill.jpg

The Modfather
04-30-2006, 08:29 AM
Ah, I used to have something similar to that, well, not as the only oven, just for occasional use, good for making steaks in. It was a Black Angus, if that name means anything. :) <Shrug>

CanaBalistic
04-30-2006, 12:11 PM
leaving it in the sun will help "bake" it but there are certin times of the year where painting outside is almost impossible due to debris floating around in the air. Spring and fall are the worst for painting. However, i painted my rig outside and it came out perfect.

xmastree
04-30-2006, 07:54 PM
Spring and fall are the worst for painting.That's because you're too far from the equator. There's no spring or fall here :)

The Modfather
05-01-2006, 03:14 AM
Yeah, in the Phillipines I imagine you'd be good to go most of the year huh? :)

You might get a stray palm frond stuck to your paint though. :)

xmastree
05-01-2006, 04:45 AM
I gave it some more coats of clear today, and had a minor panic. The first coat went sort of milky... but it cleared up after a while. i was worried at first.

http://www.lotechdesigns.com/host/thumbs/4547milky.jpg (http://www.lotechdesigns.com/host/images/4547milky.jpg)

The Modfather
05-01-2006, 06:41 AM
Lookeeng good mon!

I wanna see more pics of that paintjob in the overall, when can we hope to see 'em?

xmastree
05-01-2006, 06:46 AM
Well so far I've only painted the frame and the drives. And the panel on the left, like a grill. It was brown. It's hardly a paint job, but thanks for the comments.
There's a rubber gasket thing goes around the drive bays, that's also brown.
I might attack it with tyre black or similar.

The Modfather
05-01-2006, 07:44 AM
Hmm, yeah, I remember the gasket, but I remember all the stuff you're saying is brown being black. What I always liked about the Deskpro case was that it reminded me of a Dodge Charger (late 60's era) grill. I think if I had one of those cases I'd have to figure out a way to put two motorized hinged doors on either side in the front and do that whole Charger thing, probably paint the case Orange, make it a General Lee mod. :)

xmastree
05-01-2006, 08:26 AM
Nope, it's a very dark brown. Like plain chocolate.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f341/chrispollard/386/before.jpg

The two plates on the right are black, the gasket round them and the plate on the left are brown. Were brown.

General Lee eh? hack the BIOS so that the POST beep plays dixie...

The Modfather
05-01-2006, 08:47 AM
Yeah, that's a somewhat changed around Deskpro, default it wouldn't have had the beige hardware in it at all. I'll have to do a render of what I'd do with one so you can see what I mean. Anyway, my Deskpros were all black with the beige exterior, no brown on 'em. I think I'd get tired of Dixie after a few times though. :)

Ok, here it is.

http://www.infinity-customs.com/generallee1.jpg

With the headlight doors closed.

http://www.infinity-customs.com/generallee2.jpg

With the headlight doors open.