View Full Version : Steve Jobs has passed.
NightrainSrt4
10-05-2011, 07:48 PM
The news just put on a special report; Steve Jobs has passed. Say what you want about Apple, but they've come a hell of a long way in the last decade.
Rest in Peace.
Even though I'm not a huge fan of Apple, Steve Jobs was a smart guy and a great influence in the tech world. RIP
crenn
10-05-2011, 08:30 PM
Not a fan of apple or Steve Jobs, but do feel sorry for the guy with regards to his battle with cancer.
OvRiDe
10-06-2011, 01:36 AM
I don't care if you love or hate Apple, his death is a great loss, and most will understand that. I have spent most of my life following both Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. The man introduced the whole world to a new way of life. He pushed the limits of innovation and set the bar for many of the devices we take for granted in this day and age. I wish he would have had more time to enjoy the fruits of his labor. We all have read and heard the stories of how he was consumed with making Apple great, and he did it! I would have liked to have seen him be able to retire and be able to sit back, relax and watch with pride as his creation spurred on. I am so sorry Mr. Jobs. I feel the world has lost a great man, innovator, leader, and tech advocate. May you rest in peace. You will be greatly missed.
billygoat333
10-06-2011, 03:07 AM
I don't care if you love or hate Apple, his death is a great loss, and most will understand that. I have spent most of my life following both Steve Jobs and Bill Gates. The man introduced the whole world to a new way of life. He pushed the limits of innovation and set the bar for many of the devices we take for granted in this day and age. I wish he would have had more time to enjoy the fruits of his labor. We all have read and heard the stories of how he was consumed with making Apple great, and he did it! I would have liked to have seen him be able to retire and be able to sit back, relax and watch with pride as his creation spurred on. I am so sorry Mr. Jobs. I feel the world has lost a great man, innovator, leader, and tech advocate. May you rest in peace. You will be greatly missed.
This.
May your afterworld be filled with Macintosh Apples.
Twigsoffury
10-06-2011, 02:55 PM
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He went a very very long distance and did more then most people could even fathom to do in a lifetime.
I look at Mr.jobs and what hes accomplished from where he started out in his garage soldering together PCB and figuring out technical problems and it Lets me know... "Hey I can do those sorts of things to if i really try hard enough and keep my mind towards the goal"
For which I am grateful.
[edit] I bet he'd s@#t his pants if you plopped down a 2010 ipad in 1982 on that wooden 4mhz piece of crap and told him "In 25 years...you'll make this...And it will change the way people do things for ever after..."
So Farewell Mr.jobs as you return to the cosmos from which you have come.
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I salute you, and all of which you have accomplished.
diluzio91
10-06-2011, 03:35 PM
As much as I hated his buisness practices, he knew what the customer wanted hands down. He changed the face and the goal of computing around the world. Look at the design of laptops, pc companies follow the innovations that apple laid down. I hope that we can see more companies that pay attention to what the consumer wants. I'll miss him, and his hard headed spirit of driving forwards.
Twigsoffury
10-06-2011, 06:34 PM
and his hard headed spirit of driving forwards.
and his pseudo-propaganda campaign.
TheGreatSatan
10-07-2011, 01:20 AM
This story just really doesn't matter to me. I don't touch anything with a CrApple logo so no worries here
diluzio91
10-07-2011, 03:04 AM
Yes... but without apple PC's would probably be vastly different.
NightrainSrt4
10-07-2011, 08:03 AM
You may not like Apple, but that wasn't his only endeavor/project. Without his financing, Pixar may never have become what it is today. Toy Story was pretty much the movie to launch full CGI animation. Without Pixar, yes someone else probably would have done it, but would it have proliferated throughout the industry as it did? Who knows.
The man was right there for some of the biggest changes to our increasingly technological society. What I would give to walk through those guys' shoes during those big moments.
TheGreatSatan
10-07-2011, 10:51 PM
This is a media thing. Apple is cool or at least it makes them feel cool. Wait till Bill Gates dies. It will get very little attention.
OvRiDe
10-08-2011, 12:46 AM
I disagree.. there is way more to it then it just being a "media" thing. A man passed away that we extremely influential in every one that is living today's life and those not yet born, whether most believe it or not. Most of you may be too young or weren't involved in computing before Apple, but they were one of if not THE one that was the real game changer at that time. He was not just a CEO that went and played golf everyday and attended board meetings to keep up appearances. He fought his way from a garage startup to CEO of one of the most valuable companies in America. He was directly involved in the projects, not just on the sidelines getting status updates. He did not compromise his vision, he conquered it.
I have never really understood the hatred that some show for Apple. I mean what is there to hate? Its a company doing business as many others do. What is the big deal that they charge the prices they do. It's their prerogative to sell their products for what they believe the market will bring, right? If people don't like the price, just buy something else, no need to hate. I don't hate Ferrari, Porsche, or other car companies for selling cars that are uber expensive. Sure they have a EUL for their OS that states it can only be loaded on the hardware that they designed. Big deal, no need to hate a company because they are protecting what they created.
I'm sorry I just don't understand it.
I still believe that we have lost a great innovator and (I will use the buzzword that is flying around all over the place, mainly because in this case, its true) VISIONARY. I'm sure Apple will go on and create more products, but I will always wonder if they would be as innovative as they could have been if Mr. Jobs was still around.
I can't say I really liked the guy as a person, and I'm definitely not a fan of a lot of Apple's business practices, but I will give him this. The man was a brilliant businessman. Not so much (to my knowledge) a technology innovator, even though so many people think he was, but an amazing businessman. He was especially gifted at taking an existing technology from niche to mass-market. Case in point is the original iPod. Not really any technical innovations; there were much earlier, and several better, digital music players before it. But they made it shiny, Jobs convinced everyone that they wanted one, and the world of digital music was changed forever. The same thing happened with smartphones when they launched the iPhone. Again, nothing really innovative, but because it was shiny and Jobs convinced everyone that they wanted one, smart phones moved from a small, niche, market to everyone and their mother.
Love him or hate him, Steve Jobs altered our world in huge ways on multiple occasions over the course of his life. He was a great man. Not, imo, a particularly good man, but definitely a great man. His life may have been cut short, but he accomplished more in that life than most people ever dare dream. The world will be a little less interesting with him gone.
Farewell Steve, you will be missed.
TheGreatSatan
10-08-2011, 05:49 PM
They were saying how he "invented" the touch screen and how it has changed our world.
Really?
No.
I can confirm that he did NOT invent the touch screen.
I've got a piece of 90's tech at my school with a fully-functioning touch.
Twigsoffury
10-08-2011, 09:57 PM
I can confirm that he did NOT invent the touch screen.
I've got a piece of 90's tech at my school with a fully-functioning touch.
I've messed with plenty of touch CRT's in my day.
OvRiDe
10-08-2011, 09:59 PM
They were saying how he "invented" the touch screen and how it has changed our world.
Really?
No.
OK.. LOL.. that's just a prime example of how ignorant the Media can be. Which is one of the reasons I never take what they say at face value like so many out there do. I mean really, if they say things I know for sure are wrong, how can I trust anything they say to be the real story behind anything.
Although he was one of the driving forces to make it as mainstream as it has become. Before the iPhone most of the touch screens used mainly stylus'. When it comes to the multi touch, pinch zoom, and gesturing on a touch screen were pretty much unheard for the most part before the iPhone. So again this is an example of how the media just loves to skew things for their sake. <sigh>
So don't let their inaccuracies diminish what the real man accomplished and what he really meant to our way of life.
Revolutionized, with certainty.
Before the iPhone most of the touch screens used mainly stylus'. When it comes to the multi touch, pinch zoom, and gesturing on a touch screen were pretty much unheard for the most part before the iPhone. So again this is an example of how the media just loves to skew things for their sake. <sigh>
Again, a case of Apple taking an existing, proven, technology, making it 'shiny', and convincing the masses to buy it. Styli are mainly used with resistive touchscreens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistive_touchscreen) when increased accuracy is required. Resistive touchscreens simply were, and remain, much cheaper to produce than capacitive touchscreens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitive_sensing) (which the majority of modern smartphones/etc use). Multi-touch techniques are most easily and reliably implemented on capacitive touchscreens, thus the increased popularity of capacitive or IR (like Jeff Han's stuff) screens, but again, multi-touch has been around in various incarnations for, quite literally, decades.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-touch
Hell, even the specific tech that Apple use in their products wasn't developed by them. They bought up a company by the name of Fingerworks, who had been making production multi-touch input devices since 1998.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FingerWorks
Again, I'm not saying that Apple and Steve Jobs' contributions weren't worth anything. Hell, idk if smartphones would even be a common sight today without the iPhone making them popular. What I am saying is that in the last decade or so they have done very little in the way of actual technical innovation.
Kayin
10-10-2011, 11:03 AM
I'mma fire up my IIe emulator for ya, Jobs. Thanks for introducing me to computer games.
Twigsoffury
10-11-2011, 11:45 AM
Again, I'm not saying that Apple and Steve Jobs' contributions weren't worth anything. Hell, idk if smartphones would even be a common sight today without the iPhone making them popular. What I am saying is that in the last decade or so they have done very little in the way of actual technical innovation.
I don't really think anything apple has done in the past 20 years has been a product of there own original engineering. Seems at least to me its adaptations of other people technologies all crammed together in one device.
I mean the 2nd device, because the first was crippled just so you would buy the 2nd version in 12 months because the 1st didn't have it /support it even though it was more then capable of having those cameras and sh@# in the 1st place.
I realize Apple was a major contributer to Jobs success but didn't Jobs also play a significant role in launching Pixar, or at least putting them on the path to success with Toy Story and whatnot? Yea, Apple is his crown achievement, but it always seems to me his contribution to Pixar is always overshadowed, then again I don't know a lot of the history between Jobs and Pixar so....bleh...I don't know. *goes back to studying* :D
Heheh, while we're talking about his other endeavors, how about NeXT? :P
Airbozo
10-11-2011, 06:11 PM
Heheh, while we're talking about his other endeavors, how about NeXT? :P
Geek check!
LOL!
Twigsoffury
10-11-2011, 06:58 PM
I realize Apple was a major contributer to Jobs success but didn't Jobs also play a significant role in launching Pixar, or at least putting them on the path to success with Toy Story and whatnot? Yea, Apple is his crown achievement, but it always seems to me his contribution to Pixar is always overshadowed, then again I don't know a lot of the history between Jobs and Pixar so....bleh...I don't know. *goes back to studying* :D
hah never knew that.
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