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Neodymium
01-31-2012, 03:55 PM
Just found out my transmission is shot! I have no 2nd and 4th gears on my 2005 Focus :mad: Bit the dust in only 100k...have no warranty anymore either...

Estimated cost?
- To open and inspect and put the transmission back in - $600
- To rebuild the transmission completely - $3000
- To acquire and put a used transmission in - $1700

Arrrgggghhhhh....what am I gonna do :facepalm:

Aldersan
01-31-2012, 04:11 PM
Have a drink, play video games, and shoot people until you feel better? :)

edit: To clarify, I meant shoot people in the video games lol

Neodymium
01-31-2012, 04:16 PM
Have a drink, play video games, and shoot people until you feel better? :)

edit: To clarify, I meant shoot people in the video games lol

You can see me in my living room? How is that possible? Thanks for the humor...appreciate it :P

AmEv
01-31-2012, 04:17 PM
How close are you to 985323 and pcclan?

Neodymium
01-31-2012, 04:22 PM
How close are you to 985323 and pcclan?

I don't know where they are, AmEv...

Aldersan
01-31-2012, 04:25 PM
You can see me in my living room? How is that possible? Thanks for the humor...appreciate it :P

Heh, no problem bud. I'm sorry I'm not much help with the car troubles, but if you're ever up for some BF3 or something, I can always assist in video game homicide sprees :)

Omega
01-31-2012, 09:12 PM
Sell the car and buy something that isn't a Focus.

crenn
01-31-2012, 09:16 PM
Sell the car and buy something that isn't American, Chinese, British, Russian, Australian, Indian, Italian, Dutch, German, Netherlands, Swedish, Finnish, or Mexican.

Neodymium
01-31-2012, 09:23 PM
Sell the car and buy something that isn't a Focus.
Thank you...you mirror my thoughts...:D

Neodymium
01-31-2012, 09:24 PM
Sell the car and buy something that isn't American, Chinese, British, Russian, Australian, Indian, Italian, Dutch, German, Netherlands, Swedish, Finnish, or Mexican.
So you're basically saying stick to public transit? LOL

altec
01-31-2012, 09:25 PM
Sell the car and buy something that isn't American, Chinese, British, Russian, Australian, Indian, Italian, Dutch, German, Netherlands, Swedish, Finnish, or Mexican.

you could have just said buy Japanese. :lick:

Magnet Man- That strikes me as high, but transmissions are a bit of a voodoo art form even among mechanics. I can tell you though, anyone who has the ability to think on their feet, and remember how they took something apart can rebuild a transmission. A rebuild kit for a transmission is around $300USD, plus other worn parts, and a converter if you need one (You probably don't). As someone who has pulled their share of FWD transaxles, I can tell you the worst part is getting it out of the cramped engine bays...

I can probably look at my transmission parts catalogs and look at the exploded diagrams to tell you what is wrong. If it'll help you work a deal in your favor. It is most likely a clutch pack, drum, band, or solenoid. Is the tranny fluid dark, and burnt smelling?

Neodymium
01-31-2012, 09:30 PM
None of that - light pink oil, no burning smells...but I also read on Focus Fanatics that the issue could be shift soleniods - but that's as far as they go...with my limited knowledge, if I open the transmission, I might as well trash it :P I found the exploded diagram of the pan and the soleniods which needs replacing...but, hey, what the heck...if you have any, shoot em over, I would definitely appreciate it...thanks.

altec
01-31-2012, 09:38 PM
I'll see what I can do tomorrow after work. If my books don't have anything obvious, I can check another source that has all of the flow charts for the hydro system.

Believe it or not, a lot of newer cars are having issues at around 100k. Most of the time it is one silly weak link, or part that isn't up to the task. It is rarely clutch packs anymore unless something else is causing a engagement issue...

I've dug into three Hyundai transmissions lately that all had worn teeth on a drum (Made by Mitsubishi), a Chrysler 300 tranny that was shot (Made by Benz), and a GM 4L60E that had something silly I can't remember. All around a 100k...

crenn
01-31-2012, 09:45 PM
you could have just said buy Japanese. :lick:
Where's the fun in that?

Neodymium
01-31-2012, 09:47 PM
I'll see what I can do tomorrow after work. If my books don't have anything obvious, I can check another source that has all of the flow charts for the hydro system.

Believe it or not, a lot of newer cars are having issues at around 100k. Most of the time it is one silly weak link, or part that isn't up to the task. It is rarely clutch packs anymore unless something else is causing a engagement issue...

I've dug into three Hyundai transmissions lately that all had worn teeth on a drum (Made by Mitsubishi), a Chrysler 300 tranny that was shot (Made by Benz), and a GM 4L60E that had something silly I can't remember. All around a 100k...
I really appreciate it, Altec...good to have folks who can lighten you up as well as provide guidance...thanks!

altec
01-31-2012, 09:47 PM
Those Koreans are building better cars these days. Not like when they started, and they were "throw away" cars.

Neodymium
01-31-2012, 09:50 PM
Where's the fun in that?

Maybe I should just look at my own country for a new car...wait...we don't make any....LOL

crenn
01-31-2012, 10:09 PM
So you're basically saying stick to public transit? LOL

Nothing wrong with public transit, I use it almost every day ;D


Maybe I should just look at my own country for a new car...wait...we don't make any....LOL

Yeah, I couldn't think of any that are made or designed in Canada

altec
01-31-2012, 10:20 PM
Assembled count? GM used to build a lot in Canada.

TheGreatSatan
01-31-2012, 10:22 PM
My 2001 Ford Focus is still going like a champ at 144,000 miles!

Neodymium
01-31-2012, 10:26 PM
My 2001 Ford Focus is still going like a champ at 144,000 miles!
Rubbin' it eh, TGS?

x88x
01-31-2012, 10:26 PM
shift soleniods

Well there's your problem; automatic transmission. :P

Sorry, can't actually be helpful on the topic. ;) I hope you can find a good solution that doesn't bankrupt you.


Yeah, I couldn't think of any that are made or designed in Canada

Well, according to the intarwubs, it looks like there is a fair amount of manufacturing going on up there:
http://www.canadianmade.com/automotive.shtml
Only one they list as an actual Canadian company though...and since they say that their product is based around the EEStor units and EEStor has failed to produce any results for, what, the last six years?..I'm gonna say they're also a vaporware company. :(
http://www.zenncars.com/
Don't get me wrong, I would be ecstatic if the EEStor units were real...at any cost...but given the data available I remain highly skeptical...but that's a topic for another time.

TLHarrell
02-01-2012, 01:53 AM
If it's a stickshift, have the shop drop it out. Take it home and fix it yourself. Those things are really, really simple. Hard part is getting it out of the car. Having two gears go out like that, it's usually on the same set of shift forks. Either the cam end of a fork broke, or something wore out and slipped out of place. Should be really obvious.

Check your local library reference section for Chilton manuals. Look up your car's transmission section. 90% or better it's a >$100 part and the rest is all labor.

Neodymium
02-01-2012, 02:09 AM
If it's a stickshift, have the shop drop it out. Take it home and fix it yourself. Those things are really, really simple. Hard part is getting it out of the car. Having two gears go out like that, it's usually on the same set of shift forks. Either the cam end of a fork broke, or something wore out and slipped out of place. Should be really obvious.

Check your local library reference section for Chilton manuals. Look up your car's transmission section. 90% or better it's a >$100 part and the rest is all labor.

It's auto, TLH, that whole system is driven by the solenoids...I don't know if that is the cause for sure...I'm going to take it to a different place tomorrow and see if they can give me the CEL codes for the error (impending - because I have no dashboard lights come on)...but thanks for the advice, I will look up the manuals...not sure if Chilton is available here, but I know there is Haynes that publishes those repair manuals.

Omega
02-01-2012, 03:08 AM
So you're basically saying stick to public transit? LOL

Buy Spanish -- SEAT ;)

x88x
02-01-2012, 03:18 AM
Yet another reason to buy manual transmission cars? If this were to happen on a manual, you could...just not use those gears... :whistler: Not the best solution, but it would be workable. ;)

Neodymium
02-01-2012, 09:27 AM
I'm using the car with those the two gears that are left...1 and 3...turned OD off...so the 4th gear wouldn't engage...I can live with not having 2nd gear except that I can't continue driving it without fixing... :(

Twigsoffury
02-01-2012, 06:20 PM
Sell the car and buy something that isn't American,

You can tell that to my 96' Ford explorer with 383,000 miles.


B@#tch has been to the moon and half way back, still runs like a gangster.



Yeah, I couldn't think of any that are made or designed in Canada


Hondas (at least ones for american market) are made and assembled in Canada


Dodges are made in mexico, Which is probably why diamond window as a parking lot full of broke down dodges hahahahhahahhaa.

Man its sad that there is a ford 1998 F-250 with well over 200,000 miles that still trucking along fine, but all the 2005+ dodges are blown out in some area.


IF YOU OWN A NEW DODGE RAM FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS DON'T TOW THINGS WITH IT, the planetary gear pin in the rear differential is made out of a Lincoln log or something hahahahhahaa.

Omega
02-02-2012, 03:20 PM
Sell the car and buy something that isn't American, Chinese, British, Russian, Australian, Indian, Italian, Dutch, German, Netherlands, Swedish, Finnish, or Mexican.

Also what do you have against the Swedes? Volvo set the bar for reliability. My wagon's got 293k on the clock and still running strong, and my 760 turbo sedan is at 225 and also no issues.

AmEv
02-02-2012, 03:59 PM
Hey!

We got a still working '78 F150 Ranger! (with '83 engine)

Neodymium
02-02-2012, 04:13 PM
Also what do you have against the Swedes? Volvo set the bar for reliability. My wagon's got 293k on the clock and still running strong, and my 760 turbo sedan is at 225 and also no issues.

I like Volvos :)

Omega
02-02-2012, 08:34 PM
Hey!

We got a still working '78 F150 Ranger! (with '83 engine)

Highest mileage passenger car in the world is a Volvo ;)

Neodymium
02-02-2012, 08:44 PM
You mean like most miles driven and still driving or most miles per gallon? :P We get spammed with Ford, Chevy, GM and the rest of the companies as to whose vehicle will live the longest and who gets most mileage :D I know my next car is going to be European...just not sure what I can afford and still get what I want...I like the Merc C300, Saab 93, Volvo S60 and VW Passat...

x88x
02-02-2012, 08:57 PM
You mean like most miles driven and still driving or most miles per gallon? :P We get spammed with Ford, Chevy, GM and the rest of the companies as to whose vehicle will live the longest and who gets most mileage :D I know my next car is going to be European...just not sure what I can afford and still get what I want...I like the Merc C300, Saab 93, Volvo S60 and VW Passat...
Most driven. 1966 Volvo P1800S. Guy named Irv Gordon bought it new off the line and it's been his daily driver ever since, for last I heard just over 2.8 million miles.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irv_Gordon

As far as mileage goes, the P1800S gets ~25mpg on average.

Neodymium
02-02-2012, 09:02 PM
2.8 mil miles :eek: Didn't the body fall apart around the engine :D

x88x
02-02-2012, 09:13 PM
Nope, good old Swedish steel. :D

artoodeeto
02-02-2012, 09:48 PM
I don't know what's more :eek: about Irv Gordon - the fact that he's driven almost 3 million miles or the fact that his daily commute was 125 miles in bumper-to-bumper traffic...ugh...

Neodymium
02-02-2012, 09:51 PM
I know! That's a crazy amount of driving just to get to work....he must've spent most of his time just trying to get to and from work...