Looking for a new mouse

[SXRguyinMA]

Any recommendations? I'm currently using an MS Wireless Laser 6000 and I LOVE it, but the ruber scroll wheel is literally falling apart every time I use it. It's far out of warranty as well.

I'm looking for something tailored towards FPS gaming, with adjustable DPI buttons. Can be wired or wireless. don't care if it's got adjustable weights or not. I've got fairly large hands so I need something comfortable ()like my MS mouse currently is).

Here's what I'm looking at so far:

Corsair M60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826816006

Logitech G9x
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104261

Thermaltake Element
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826254012

I'm leaning towards the G9x, simply because of it's ratings and sale price. Thoughts? :think:

[Fuganater]

I've had the Microsoft Sidewinder for several years now. Never had any issues gaming or anything for that matter.

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-HKA-00001-SideWinder-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B000TTQFIS/ref=sr_1_10?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1337359455&sr=1-10

[Technochicken]

I have the RAT 5, which I really like, although I don't have much else to compare it to.
http://www.amazon.com/Cyborg-R-A-T-Gaming-CCB437050002-04/dp/B003DKJ44C

Only complaint is that it doesn't have a tilt wheel, but you can just Shift-scroll to side scroll.

[CrazyTeaPot]

The two unarguably best mice currently available is either the G90X or the Razer Deathadder. The next best would be the G5 or the MX518, though now a bit dated. But all four of those mice are the most popular amongst professional gamers and in eSports tournaments alike.

If you're looking for a sure thing, choose one of those.

My personal favorites are; Razer Orochi, Logitech G700, Corsair Vengeance M60.

Beware that the Vengeance software is currently still in Beta, last I checked anyways. It's kind of so-so at the moment. But otherwise a nice mouse with some interesting features, such as that sniper button. I'm not really sure what to think of it, but it's an interesting concept at least.

Edit: The Vengeance is $53 on Amazon right now, by the way. (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Performance-Gaming-CH-9000001-NA/dp/B005QUQP76/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1337364290&sr=8-1)

[SXRguyinMA]

Yea my MS Laser 6000 has a button which I program to be a speed adjust only in BF3, Photoshop and SketchUp. All other times it's a zoom button. The sniper button is a must as I use it frequently. I was reading some of the reviews on both the M60 and the G9x, and both seem to be rather small and can be uncomfortable for larger hands. The software for the M60 seems to have been solved mostly with its latest update (reading the timestamps on the reviews anyways). The G9x seems to have a lot of 1 egg reviews with regards to quality as well, mainly the cord breaking and the grippyness coming off. I'm kinda leaning towards the M60 ATM, I'll do some more research before I buy though.

:edit:

That MS Sidewinder looks like a worthy competitor as well. It'd be nice ot get my hands on one before buying though, like a test drive lol

[NightrainSrt4]

I have the Alienware version of the g9/g9x, the tactx. Picked it up on sale for like $20. I really like the mouse, but it is much smaller than my g5, and wouldn't be very comfortable for large hands unless you are used to claw grip.

[TLHarrell]

Logitech G700 here. Mostly use it for CAD work. I have long fingers, and love the grip. Only gripe is very poor battery life with the default Eneloop AA 1900mAh battery. Lasts about a day and a half for me regardless of settings. Included cord turns it into a corded mouse while it charges, and you can always swap out the battery.

[CrazyTeaPot]

Concerning the G700 and it's admittedly very poor battery life; It's due to the mouse having very little power-saving features to ensure gaming experience is on par with corded mice.

Plus, it only has one battery. Two would have added too much weight apparently, though I personally like heavier mice.

It's too bad they didn't include the -option- for a second battery. It would be akin to a mouse weight, except it's a battery. Double the benefit! In fact... that would be a cool idea... They should start doing that.

Anyways, that's the gist of it concerning the poor battery life. It's a true wireless gaming mouse.

[d_stilgar]

I have and use a G9 most of the time. The other mouse I would be interested in is the Cyborg Rat5.

[msmrx57]

I've got a DeathAdder and absolutely love it. Admittedly I don't game much but the quality is very impressive. It's over 4 years old and the only issue I've had was needing to open it up to clean the scroll wheel.

[985323]

I've had the R.A.T 9 for a year and I love it! I really do recommend it

[AmEv]

I really can't make a recommendation, as I'm still using a Labtec PS/2 optical mouse.

[SXRguyinMA]

I've had the R.A.T 9 for a year and I love it! I really do recommend it

love the looks and options, but too pricey for me lol

[TheGreatSatan]

I chose Other. My RAT 7 is awesome and $50 cheaper than the RAT 9. I have the black on one computer and the white on another

[d_stilgar]

I chose Other. My RAT 7 is awesome and $50 cheaper than the RAT 9. I have the black on one computer and the white on another

My biggest question is, do they have the free-spinning scroll wheel that the logitech mice have? I love just making it spin with no click. It's perfect for web browsing, etc.

[SXRguyinMA]

see that's one thing I don't like about my MS mouse - the scroll wheel doesn't click. I like having the indents.

[billygoat333]

I want a white rat 7 sooo bad. :) that gets my vote. lol

[d_stilgar]

see that's one thing I don't like about my MS mouse - the scroll wheel doesn't click. I like having the indents.

All the logitech ones that I've seen have a switch or a clicker that turns on/off the microgear that makes it click or not. The switch on the G9 is on the bottom of the mouse.

[SXRguyinMA]

yea the R.A.T. series looks sick, but a tad out of my price raneg ATM. I'm still heavily leaning towards the M60. That might be what I get.

[TLHarrell]

Yeah, I love the scroll wheel on my MX Revolution (home computer's mouse). If you scroll fast enough, it freewheels automatically. The one on my G700 at work has a mechanical button that swaps it to freewheel. I don't use that mode very much. The automatic is awesome though.

[CrazyTeaPot]

I watched the Amazon video review for the RAT mouse. That's my new favorite mouse, I'm pretty sure. The customization options are just awesome. It looks well built too.

The RAT 3 is an automatic pass, but the RAT 5 looks like a good contender here. You might want to check it out, SXR. It's only $60, which is in your price range. It's actually lower than your price range, based on what you originally listed from Newegg.

The RAT 7 is slightly better all around and has full customization options. It's a pretty powerful mouse. It's $80, which is only $10 more than the Corsair that you listed on Newegg. Not a bad deal at all with everything considered. Personally, if my budget was $70, I would definitely spend the extra $10 for this mouse. What you get for that $10 extra bucks is well worth it.

[SXRguyinMA]

Looking good....Amazon has the R.A.T. 5 for $59.98 (http://www.amazon.com/Cyborg-R-A-T-Gaming-CCB437050002-04/dp/B003DKJ44C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1337716492&sr=8-1)and the 7 for $79.64 (http://www.amazon.com/Cyborg-R-A-T-7-Gaming-Mouse-MAC/dp/B003CP0BHM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1337716470&sr=8-1), both with free shipping. My wife's got some Amazon gift codes she said I can use so that'll help too. They've also got the M60 for $52.26 (http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Vengeance-Performance-Gaming-CH-9000001-NA/dp/B005QUQP76/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1337716629&sr=1-1). I like the fact that the M60 is USB 3.0 (not that it probably matters much with a mouse lol). Some reviews I've seen on the R.A.T. series aren't too favorable - a lot of people think it looks cooler than it actually is. I wish there was somewhere you could "test drive" mice and keyboards before you bought them. I need to start that kind of store!! lol :D

[BuzzKillington]

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[SXRguyinMA]

ordered the M60. with my wife's amazon gift codes I paid $2.26 shipped for it :D

shame I'm going on vaca from this Sat till next Sun though...won't get to use it till I get back lol

[CrazyTeaPot]

ordered the M60. with my wife's amazon gift codes I paid $2.26 shipped for it :D

shame I'm going on vaca from this Sat till next Sun though...won't get to use it till I get back lol

That's... an awesome deal. :o

[SXRguyinMA]

yea she was part of this fitness website survey group. she's get amazon gift codes every time she did a survey. shame the stopped it a few months back. she bought me a $250 electric razor for Christmas for like $10 :D. She had some leftover and said she wouldn't use them so I could :banana:

[Konrad]

Gigabyte GM8000-X Ghost "Xtreme" Gaming Mouse. (http://ca.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3314#ov)

My review, in a nutshell:
- unbeaten specs - 6000dpi, 12000fps, 30G, 150inch/sec, USB2 1KHz polling (actual, not fake/marketing)
- excellent software with settings and macros and profiles and cool-looking bling
- onboard flash stores settings - on any computer, with or without running the software
- it's black and kinda futuristicky and has lotsa cool multicolor-LEDs, adjustable weights, etc
- surprisingly solid and sturdy, could probably use to smash and hammer things
- fits my "palmgrip" preference nicely, but perhaps a little bit overlarge
- 60 bucks, cheap, and of course laser and gliding like every premium gaming mouse

[CrazyTeaPot]

Gigabyte GM8000-X Ghost "Xtreme" Gaming Mouse. (http://ca.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3314#ov)

My review, in a nutshell:
- unbeaten specs - 6000dpi, 12000fps, 30G, 150inch/sec, USB2 1KHz polling (actual, not fake/marketing)
- excellent software with settings and macros and profiles and cool-looking bling
- onboard flash stores settings - on any computer, with or without running the software
- it's black and kinda futuristicky and has lotsa cool multicolor-LEDs, adjustable weights, etc
- surprisingly solid and sturdy, could probably use to smash and hammer things
- fits my "palmgrip" preference nicely, but perhaps a little bit overlarge
- 60 bucks, cheap, and of course laser and gliding like every premium gaming mouse

Unbeaten?

http://www.amazon.com/Cyborg-R-A-T-7-Gaming-Mouse-MAC/dp/B003CP0BHM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1337874099&sr=8-1

[Konrad]

Aw, I have been shamed. The RAT7 and RAT9 do have better top-end specs, overall. Yeah, if you want the best you'll buy a RAT.

I do still like my Ghost, and it compares quite favourably against the RATs at half the price. Too bad these mice are all so damned good, it'll be years before it breaks or fails so I have a reason to buy a new and better one. Unless something bad happens while hacking and modding ...

[mDust]

Only complaint is that it doesn't have a tilt wheel, but you can just Shift-scroll to side scroll.

Click/hold the mouse wheel and scroll in any direction you wish. Epic.


I have a RAT 7 and my only complaint is the cord. I'm pretty sure I NEED the RAT 9 now.;)
How is the battery life in the RAT 9 though? I had a Logitech M505 that went nearly a year of everyday use without replacing the non-rechargeable batteries that came with it. It wasn't a gaming mouse, but it set the bar (and thus my expectations) high in the energy efficiency department. I can't stand having to stop what I'm doing to swap out rechargeables.

[Konrad]

Not big on cordless mice. Or BlueTooth, WiFi, IrDA. Physical wiring might sometimes be a minor hassle - but their signal-bandwidth, reliability, and security are superior. I would never use a wireless keyboard in today's keylogging world.

[mDust]

Not big on cordless mice. Or BlueTooth, WiFi, IrDA. Physical wiring might sometimes be a minor hassle - but their signal-bandwidth, reliability, and security are superior. I would never use a wireless keyboard in today's keylogging world.

I've never experienced any bandwidth or reliability issues with any of the wireless mice I've used. I could see security issues with wireless keyboards, but with mice? The mouse communicates vectors and clicks. I would provide anyone that 'data' for free upon asking for it. I think Google logs it as well after a search, though I think they provide it as anonymous aggregate.

I honestly wouldn't mind the wires if I sat at a desk. I use my TV as a monitor though and sit on the couch 12' away. I have a 15' USB extension running across my open floor for my mouse and headphones. I deal with it because I have to at the moment.
Build me an encrypted wireless mouse/keyboard combo with the features of my current devices and I'll buy them just for the geek factor.

[AmEv]

Wireless mouse? You'd have to know exactly where the icons were, what exactly they were doing.

Wireless keyboard?


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Scary....

[CrazyTeaPot]

Not big on cordless mice. Or BlueTooth, WiFi, IrDA. Physical wiring might sometimes be a minor hassle - but their signal-bandwidth, reliability, and security are superior. I would never use a wireless keyboard in today's keylogging world.

You have to buy genuine wireless gaming mice. The ones that don't last 4 years on half a battery, but only last one day on a full battery. The difference between wired gaming mice and wireless gaming mice is nothing that a human being would be able to notice. The charging is the only hassle. But, just do that whenever you go to bed.

[Konrad]

Hah, I've already got two keyboards, two mice, and a tablet plugged into my main computer. Agreed, if you're just doing casual stuff with laptops and TVs and XBox and whatever then wireless is a total advantage - just keep a spare peripheral handy so there's always one at full charge.

I'm still convinced, in my creepy old tinfoil-hat conspiracy theory nerd paranoia, that carelessly using wireless keyboards or doing personal info and banking and stuff like that across WiFi is just asking to be a victim. Mouseclicks aren't of any real consequence without alphanumeric data to support them.

[AmEv]

I've got an IR keyboard. For an HTPC.

Now you guys've reinforced my want for wired keyboards.

At least 4g is heavily encrypted...

[TLHarrell]

IR is not a problem. Not like the neighbor across the street is going to be sniffing packets off it.

[AmEv]

^Yes. IR requires DIRECT access. So, unless they happen to have a IRLED pointed at your window through theirs, you can't do much.

RF? As long as you know the protocol, frequency, and encryption algorithm (if any), they're "useful" to you.

As for mouse? Yeah, not much you could extrapolate from it. Other than they move it around a lot.

[Konrad]

My big concern with WiFi is that radio doesn't stop at property lines. Are you leeching and stealing your neighbour's internet, or is his internet trespassing in your radio space?

I'm inclined to mod my remote control, replace that wimpy little IRED with an IR Laser diode heehehehe. Obviously not intended to be aimed at humans or IR reflective surfaces, but might be handy for "jamming" a neighbour's television from across the block - in retaliation for his internet trespasses!

[AmEv]

Coupled with an Arduino, you can send ANY command at that IR reciever!

[SXRguyinMA]

Well the M60 was a mistake. Didn't work right out of the box. Corsair's support forums say to use their firmware updater and reflash the firmware to the mouse, but it keeps saying "Open USB Device Fail, please reinstall device driver!". Apparently there's LOTS of issues with Corsair's software and LOTS of pissed off people with dead M60's patiently waiting for an answer. I'm just returning it to Amazon and most likely getting the G9x.

[billygoat333]

Yikes, no bueno. :/

[SXRguyinMA]

Alright just ordered the Sentinel Advance II...hopefully I'll have a better experience than with the Corsair M60...

http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?product_id=3078

:D