Cross by Red Harbinger

[L3p]

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/Cross_banner_550.png ('http://redharbinger.com/')

Here I am with a new project :)
As some of you might know, ever since I finished the L3p D3sk (http://redharbinger.com/forums/useralbums/l3p-d3sk.28/view) project all 6 of us have been busy with the company named Red Harbinger. This team exists out of these great persons (http://redharbinger.com/aboutus/).


First project ... to improve, re-design and compatibilize the L3p D3sk.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/Cross_render_550.jpg ('http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/Cross_render_2000.jpg')


This will be completely different compared to my other buildlogs..
It's the build of the first prototype available for the market soon.
I thought, if I have to test it anyway....
why not make a buildlog and use this opportunity to get as much as possible input from you readers.

Please keep in mind this is a prototype.
Few things we already changed months ago in the design but aren't in this prototype yet.
- Leg height 2 1/2" lower
- Illuminating the legs
- Lots of small things
- Got a dual system version, should've been single :)


So here we go!
Can you imagine how excited I was after 12 months having this in front of my door?

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/550/P1120686.JPG ('http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2560/P1120686.JPG')


Right after unpacking it, just had to see how it would look like :)

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/550/P1120722.JPG ('http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2560/P1120722.JPG')


'Few' hours later.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/550/P1130032.JPG ('http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2560/P1130032.JPG')


Updates:

1. Unpacking the desk (http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?p=364542#post364542)
2. Renders (http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?p=364572#post364572)
3. The hardware part 1
4. The hardware part 2
5. Cross buildroom
6. Inspecting the prototype


Sponsors & Partners

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/Sponsorlogo/highflow.png (http://www.highflow.nl/)
http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/Sponsorlogo/asus.png (http://www.asus.com/)http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/Sponsorlogo/corsair.png (http://www.corsair.com/)
http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/Sponsorlogo/ekwb.png (http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/)http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/Sponsorlogo/cm.png (http://www.coolermaster.nl/)
http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/Sponsorlogo/bitfenix.png (http://www.bitfenix.com/global/en/)http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/Sponsorlogo/steelseries.png (http://www.steelseries.com)
http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/Sponsorlogo/mayhems.png (http://www.mayhems.co.uk/)http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/Sponsorlogo/lamptron.png (http://www.lamptron.com/)


For now we aren't planning to build the desks with hardware or watercooling setups.
There will be a version for a single pc and dual pc setup in different colors.
We do have plans for all kind nice options and extra's.
Here a newspost (http://redharbinger.com/forums/threads/cross-desk-news.27/) from Thomas about the price and plans.

[L3p]

First of all, again want to remind you this is a prototype. :)

Unpacking.

So .... there it was.
No idea what the actual weight was incl all glass panels and some other stuff I needed.
I think around 90-100Kg.
I was 'home alone' and tried pulling/pushing it, but didn't move an inch.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120687.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120687.JPG)


5 minutes later it even started to rain :)

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120688.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120688.JPG)


Since there wasn't a neighbour available either I came up with a thousands of years old idea.
It worked pretty well :P

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120689.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120689.JPG)


My heart still bouncing. Package was just as big as my couch.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120691.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120691.JPG)


First top package contained these panels for the legs (old design) and the glass for the shelf.
(Other top package contained some hardware you'll see later)

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120696.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120696.JPG)


Glass for the shelf connected to the legs.
It has a frosted bottom and rounded edges.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120698.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120698.JPG)


And a lasered logo on top.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120699.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120699.JPG)


The big package exists out of 3 smaller boxes. Top one contains the desk itself and all smaller stuff needed for the desk.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120700.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120700.JPG)


As you can see the desk will come partly assembled.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120701.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120701.JPG)


Second level contains the big top glass panel

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120702.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120702.JPG)

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120703.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120703.JPG)


With a frosted bottom edge, also a small logo and off course rounded edges.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120704.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120704.JPG)


The third and last box contains the assembled legs, backside cover (where PSU and all cables go), and the panel between the legs for more stability.
(This panel got a great improvement in the next prototype on looks and stability, you'll see it later)

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120706.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120706.JPG)


Unpacking the small stuff.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120707.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120707.JPG)


Leg and backside cover on the background.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120708.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120708.JPG)


Unboxing the desk.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120710.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120710.JPG)


Back side.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120711.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120711.JPG)


Front.
It's incredibly huge ... I knew the size but still the only word that came up in me was WOW!

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120712.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120712.JPG)


Well.. I was still on my own, so had to find a way to lift it on the legs just for a few photos :)

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120713.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120713.JPG)

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120714.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120714.JPG)

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120715.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120715.JPG)


Really love this color and way of powdercoating.
Off course it will be available in many colors/finishes.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120718.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120718.JPG)

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120719.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120719.JPG)


The grommets!
Well I got a few spares I guess.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120720.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120720.JPG)


The switches. What color do you guys prefer?

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120721.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120721.JPG)


My choice is black/red led :)

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120723.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120723.JPG)


Glass panel on top of the desk. (Still without rubber seal)

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120724.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120724.JPG)


As you guys can see it's pretty high, we lowered the next prototype about 2 1/2".

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120725.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120725.JPG)

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120726.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120726.JPG)

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120727.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/2560/P1120727.JPG)


I found a good purpose for that quite unhandleable box :D

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/1-Unpacking/550/P1120924.JPG

Tomorrow I'll post some (concept) renders we're busy with incl. the monitor stand.

[Luke122]

Amazing! I'm really excited to follow this project!

[L3p]

Well atleast someone does then :D
Thanks man :)

[Stonerboy779]

So this is the greatest (to be production) case ever then?

[CrazyTeaPot]

That's a pretty cool deskputer!

...also.... that car... has eyelashes... :think:

[AmEv]

...also.... that car... has eyelashes... :think:

WHY did you make me look?!?

[Luke122]

WHY did you make me look?!?

LOL.. those are pretty common here.. I've seen those on big 4x4 Jeeps.. they look hilarious!

</hijack>

Do you have an estimated cost on this desk?

[L3p]

Thanks for the replies guys :)


So this is the greatest (to be production) case ever then?

I don't think so, maybe in width, but in volume there are much bigger cases :)


That's a pretty cool deskputer!
...also.... that car... has eyelashes... :think:


LOL.. those are pretty common here.. I've seen those on big 4x4 Jeeps.. they look hilarious!

</hijack>

Do you have an estimated cost on this desk?

Oh yes.... don't get me starting about my wifes Matiz :D

Price estimated a few months ago was 1980USD. However we're fully busy on getting investors to get the price down.

[L3p]

Renders!

Well I got some questions about the possible colors and the monitor stand.
Maybe this post will make some things clear.
There's also a render coming up with all the in and outside measurements in mm and inch to answer some of your questions.


These were made by perfect cooperation between Shawn and Scott :)
First of all an exploded view of the prototype I have here.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2-Renders/550/Cross_exploded.png (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2-Renders/2560/Cross_exploded.png)


And the HDD bracket I personally won't be using for this build but will be in the standard desk.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2-Renders/550/Cross_hdd.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2-Renders/2560/Cross_hdd.JPG)


Our plans are to have the desk in a few standard colors.
However there is an option to order the desk completely color-customized.
So this render is just to show what parts could be in your own custom color.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2-Renders/550/Cross_colors_1.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2-Renders/2560/Cross_colors_1.JPG)

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2-Renders/550/Cross_colors_2.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2-Renders/2560/Cross_colors_2.JPG)


The monitor stand.
This is still just a concept, but we're working on it :)

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2-Renders/550/Cross_monitorstand_concept.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2-Renders/2560/Cross_monitorstand_concept.JPG)


Reservoirs.
Also a concept we're busy with.
Don't ask for details :D

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2-Renders/550/Reserviors_concept.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2-Renders/2560/Reserviors_concept.JPG)



And some renders of a white desk with concept reservoirs.

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2-Renders/550/Cross_renders1.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2-Renders/2560/Cross_renders1.JPG)

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2-Renders/550/Cross_renders2.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2-Renders/2560/Cross_renders2.JPG)

http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2-Renders/550/Cross_renders3.JPG (http://redharbinger.com/photo/Cross/2-Renders/2560/Cross_renders3.JPG)

[Luke122]

I love that you can put two separate systems in there! One low power for regular tasks, and one monster for gaming perhaps? :D

[AmEv]

Is there a special TBCS discount I smell????


Seriously, though, drool worthy desk, even in black.

[Fuganater]

The desk is nice but I want to see the Res come to life.

[L3p]

I'm sorry guys but my buildlog will stop here.
Thanks for all the support in my buildlogs over here!

[Stonerboy779]

I'm sorry guys but my buildlog will stop here.
Thanks for all the support in my buildlogs over here!

Any explanation as to why? Still going to keep going elsewhere, on your site?

[SXRguyinMA]

why are you stopping?

[Fuganater]

Hes not getting enough views/comments on this forum. He stopped posting on several small forums.

[Snowman]

thats too bad, this is the only modding forum i care to visit.

[AmEv]

thats too bad, this is the only modding forum i care to visit.

:stupid: The very-high-end ones have too many wannabe modders. Some good ones, but too many same-design, same-case mods.

[L3p]

Any explanation as to why? Still going to keep going elsewhere, on your site?


why are you stopping?


Hes not getting enough views/comments on this forum. He stopped posting on several small forums.


thats too bad, this is the only modding forum i care to visit.


:stupid: The very-high-end ones have too many wannabe modders. Some good ones, but too many same-design, same-case mods.


I'm very sorry guys, I will explain.
First of all it's not about views, don't care at all.

Please understand all those buildlogs I'm holding aren't just a fast copy paste.
I started with indexes to every update in all startposts on every forum.
One update takes me like 6 hours non stop of selecting editing and uploading photos, nonstop typing, copypasting links, editing the startpost and replying on comments.
I'm just going to keep my buildlogs on the forums where I get comments, criticism and even tips.
The last 2 buildlogs here with over 1200 photos, I think I can count the comments on a few hands :neutral:
Since I want to have more time for the actual modding I have to cut down a few forums.
Off course you can still follow it on the Bit-Tech (http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=235803) or OCN (http://www.overclock.net/t/1294509/cross-by-red-harbinger) forums if you're really interested.
Sorry and thanks for the support guys!

[Stonerboy779]

I'm very sorry guys, I will explain.
First of all it's not about views, don't care at all.

Please understand all those buildlogs I'm holding aren't just a fast copy paste.
I started with indexes to every update in all startposts on every forum.
One update takes me like 6 hours non stop of selecting editing and uploading photos, nonstop typing, copypasting links, editing the startpost and replying on comments.
I'm just going to keep my buildlogs on the forums where I get comments, criticism and even tips.
The last 2 buildlogs here with over 1200 photos, I think I can count the comments on a few hands :neutral:
Since I want to have more time for the actual modding I have to cut down a few forums.
Off course you can still follow it on the Bit-Tech (http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=235803) or OCN (http://www.overclock.net/t/1294509/cross-by-red-harbinger) forums if you're really interested.
Sorry and thanks for the support guys!
Understandable. I guess I am lucky that the three forums I use all share large amounts of the same code so I have very little editing that I must do to go between them all updating.

Good to see it is still going on OCAU so I will catch updates there.

However always liked TBCS may not be overly active but it also doesn't get cluttered by lots of crap (spam and bots excluded haha).

[L3p]

And the buildlog video :)

http://www.l3p.nl/files/Hardware/Cross/Final/finalvid.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fffitamlujA)

Thanks again everyone!