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Snophox
06-08-2006, 05:19 PM
Ok, I've been trying to install an OS on my computer for afew weeks now, For Some Reason My CD-ROM drive won't process to the motherboard and whatnot, So this is what happens, I turn on the pc, insert the Windows XP Home Disk, Close the Drive, and it makes the reading sounds, but nothing happens on the screen, Now if i use floppys to boot it to, i can do all 6 floppys but when it asks me to insert the disk, and when i do, it just doesnt read the disk, but it makes the noises and ect. Now I have tryed switching the IDE cables, I Switched out my other PC drive in the new PC and that didnt work, and i've messed with the little Master, Slave, and CS clips on the back of it, and still nothing works, My Computer teacher said i may need to install the Driver, How would i do that? Could i do it from a floppy? Also i have a SATA hard drive and doesnt connect with an IDE cable, could that be an issue?
Omega
06-08-2006, 05:51 PM
Check the jumpers on the drive.
The CD-drive and whatever else are on the same IDE channel (Whatever is attached to the same cable) should have different settings.
If a CD and HDD are on the same channel, set the jumper on the HDD to "Master" and the CD to "Slave".
That should fix the problem. If there is nothing else on the channel, you can safely take the jumper off of the drive.
Snophox
06-08-2006, 06:38 PM
Okay, i do not have the CD and HDD on the same IDE Channel, The HDD is on a Sata cable, I only have the CD on its IDE, and i have the CD set to master, and the jumper is set to MA, and are you saying i can take the jumper off completely? theres another jumper setting calles CS, should i place it there?, im only asking that because my HP computers CDs jumper is on CS
dgrmkrp
06-08-2006, 06:54 PM
hmm... if u have separate hdd and cd cables there shouldn't be any problems (on PATA, both should be master for best performance.. more disks should be paired with similar devices.. not a cd with a hdd.. that limits transfer rates, but should still work if properly configured)..
2 things u should check:
1. is the cd bootable? do you get any errors? it may be scratched..
2. if you have a sata hdd, then you may need to insert a 3rd party diskette with the drivers when windows setup loads.. if it gets that far... tell us exactly what screens appear.. does it boot, show the POST and then black? or it stays stuck when checking for the cd-disk?
I installed win xp pro sp2 yesterday on a pc, and it refused to work with a particular cd (i waited about 1 minute after it said press any key to boot from cd.. then a nice error screen with: registers and garbled data.. ).. so i used another and it went flawless... conclusion: bad cd :) .. they just don't make 'em like they used to..
Snophox
06-08-2006, 08:18 PM
Yes the cd is bootable, i do get this "Warning CMOS" thing that i competely dont understand..., and i get the POST screen and than black, I can use Floppy boot disks until it gets to the part where it asks me to insert cd. I've tryed 4 Windows XP Pro CDS
Cevinzol
06-08-2006, 09:11 PM
if the CD is the only thing on the IDE cable then its NOT a master drive (no slave).
The BIOS may be waiting for the slave to post.
CS=cable select. This is for cables capable of asigning slave/naster. You can try it but it might not work.
Try removing the jumper entirely from the CD-rom.
woody_pato
06-08-2006, 10:38 PM
do u have the ide cable in the right port on the motherboard
there shoud be 1 for hdd's and 1 for cd drives
AKA_RA
06-08-2006, 10:51 PM
it doesnt matter which one you put them into, theres just a primary channel and secondary. i usually put hdd onto primary, but it really shouldnt screw it up if you dont, just so long as you put them in the right direction
Snophox
06-09-2006, 06:20 AM
I Dont have a HDD in any IDE slot, My HDD is connected to a SATA Connection
synapz
06-09-2006, 08:49 AM
If you go into the BIOS when you boot, does the BIOS show your CD drive?
Also is it connected to the primary end of the IDE able or the secondry?
synapz
06-09-2006, 08:54 AM
also can you please tell us as much info as possible. Has the CD Drive ever worked? If so when did it stop, whats your PC's stats? What OS does it have, If XP Pro, is it 32 bit or 64 bit, the more onfo the more chance we have of helping you.
Snophox
06-09-2006, 11:24 AM
its a brand new CD drive, i have it in the primary IDE, there is NO OS because i cant INSTALL one because of the CD Drive. The BIOS does show the CD Drive.
synapz
06-09-2006, 11:30 AM
well what OS are you trying to install? Like i said, the more info the better.
Specific please not Windows XP, i mean is it pro is it 64 bit, etc.
Is this correct?
You have a new CD-ROM set on the Master jumper on the primary IDE, going to the primary IDE on the mobo?
Theres only the CD-ROM on that IDE cable?
You dont get to the Blue Windows screen when you try to boot from the CD?
The HDD, is set to the Master jumper?
Youve tryed installing the some OS with four different CD's?
The CD-ROM and SATA HDD are both visable in the BIOS?
You have the CD-ROM as your primary boot device in the BIOS?
You havnt got the HDD as the primary boot? If you have it may cause an error in trying to boot from a HDD with no OS.
There are no errors on the post screen? I.E When checking RAM
Snophox
06-09-2006, 12:48 PM
Windows XP Pro, 64 bit
Yes
I do not get the blue screen,
There is no jumper on the HDD, its connected to a SATA, cable into the mobo.
Yes four different CDS of the same OS.
Yes Both are visible by bios
yes CD-rom is my Primary Boot,
I Get this "Warning CMOS... reset in bios" (Sorry dont remember the actual warning) in the Post Screen.
He's a little trick for you, read your manual, find the reset BIOS jumper, peform this, you may have to reset the BIOS to get it to run correctly, Also have you an old BIOS, does it support your CPU fully, some BIOS's can cause setup or even windows to fail because it dosen't support your CPU.
If your motherboard dosent have a BIOS/CMOS reset, disconnect your mains, remove the battery, place some metel (Screwdriver, tweasers) where the batt goes to complete the circut, then connect the mains, leave for a few seconds, then remove power, remove the item in place of the batt, then replace the batt.
When you next turn on, you should get an error regrding a curropt CMOS, then enter setup, make your changed to setup your bios, then save and reset.
synapz
06-09-2006, 02:03 PM
He's a little trick for you, read your manual, find the reset BIOS jumper, peform this, you may have to reset the BIOS to get it to run correctly, Also have you an old BIOS, does it support your CPU fully, some BIOS's can cause setup or even windows to fail because it dosen't support your CPU.
If your motherboard dosent have a BIOS/CMOS reset, disconnect your mains, remove the battery, place some metel (Screwdriver, tweasers) where the batt goes to complete the circut, then connect the mains, leave for a few seconds, then remove power, remove the item in place of the batt, then replace the batt.
When you next turn on, you should get an error regrding a curropt CMOS, then enter setup, make your changed to setup your bios, then save and reset.
lol you beat me to it. ^^^^ What he said. Also you may need to install the SATA Drives if there not already. If none of this works, its prob a faulty CD-ROM. Do you have another one you could try? I have 64 bit and it can be very sensative to driver issues, very sensitive. Read you motherboard manual IN DETAIL. If none of this works you could always use a friends PC to burn a .iso of ubuntu. Then try and boot this, if it boots you know its a problem with the way your burning the XP disk. I mean you havnt bought 4 CD's of 64-bit surely?
Snophox
06-09-2006, 03:17 PM
I've reset the jumper a few times now times now on the motherboard, doesnt work, i have changed the CD-rom drive with my working pc's cd-rom drive, and still the same problem, and i havnt bought 4 cds, i bought 1, then used my fathers, and 2 other friends cds
synapz
06-09-2006, 03:22 PM
corrupt BIOS? Go into the BIOS and Load Fail-safe option then try? This may also sound dull but you do have a AMD 64 Processor and a motherboard that supports it right?
Cant you see a process of emlimination, uve proven its not the CD, its not the CD-ROM, Its not the IDE cable. Therefore your down to your motherboard, maybe theres a problem booting? Maybe a hardware failure?
CanaBalistic
06-09-2006, 03:49 PM
OMG you guys are going to **** his **** right up with that garbage your spewing!!!!
Go into your BIOS. Select your cd rom as the master boot device. Done!
synapz
06-09-2006, 04:11 PM
yes CD-rom is my Primary Boot
he has incase you didnt read.
Snophox
06-09-2006, 05:05 PM
I Just tryed it, i took out the jumper on the Cd-rom completely. didnt work, eh id hate if it was the motherboard.. but **** happens, next week, when i get afew hours im gonna mix and match parts from my working pc, to my new build. i'll give you guys an update if i figure out the problem
synapz
06-09-2006, 05:34 PM
I Just tryed it, i took out the jumper on the Cd-rom completely. didnt work, eh id hate if it was the motherboard.. but **** happens, next week, when i get afew hours im gonna mix and match parts from my working pc, to my new build. i'll give you guys an update if i figure out the problem
you just have to watch because like i said, u need a 64bit Processor, and the motherboard needs to suport it, etc.
Snophox
06-09-2006, 06:08 PM
Both PCs have Athlon 64x2 so i should be fine, but thanks for reminding me
synapz
06-09-2006, 06:37 PM
Both PCs have Athlon 64x2 so i should be fine, but thanks for reminding me
before dimanteling the PC's try and install a different OS
try installing a copy of normal XP, or even better, windows 2000, as 2k is less prone to faulty disks., Like he said above, but have you tried reseting your BIOS like me and other members have said.
Snophox
06-10-2006, 08:57 AM
Yup i have reset the bios, i'll try another OS, Um can you install linux through floppy? does anyone know?
synapz
06-10-2006, 12:32 PM
not that i know, but im not a linux person. so dont take my word for it. The only linux OS i know come in .iso so i dont hink u can use floppys.
CanaBalistic
06-10-2006, 02:57 PM
he has incase you didnt read.
Must of been the one line i over looked :)
Try setting the cdrom to the second boot device and the first to floppy. dont use a floppy though and it will switch to the cdrom. it could work...
synapz
06-10-2006, 03:55 PM
Must of been the one line i over looked :)
Try setting the cdrom to the second boot device and the first to floppy. dont use a floppy though and it will switch to the cdrom. it could work...
:eek: yeye whatever :rolleyes: lol
Doubt it would work, but anything worth a try u just never know, never know lol
Yup i have reset the bios, i'll try another OS, Um can you install linux through floppy? does anyone know?
yes it is:
HAL91 Distro (http://chris.silmor.de/hal91/) <--Fits on one floppy disk
TOMSRTBT Distro (http://www.toms.net/rb/) <--Also fits on one floppy disk.
TOMSRTBT would be your best bet, it is designed for repairing damaged systems and testing componants.
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