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GT40_GearHead
06-23-2006, 10:41 AM
lets spin this shi+.... :D
i'm gonna make my own case from square tubing 20 mm wide
and because my english is not so good you will just have to watch the preaty pictures:
http://www.dragonworks.info/CAD-CAM-CNC/xyzr%20table/pictures/square%20tubing.jpg
the motherboard is gonna sit in the uper part of the case, the psu, hdd, cd-rom in the lower part
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/case3.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/case2.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/4de3b521.jpg
the thingy with a red grove in its a pice of square tubing with redd LEDs in it, i will have 3 or 5 of them one over the other (something like this )(this on the side of the case )
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(i did not make them with sketchup because i twisted my brains for 2 hours to make this thing as it is)
but i have a problem(until now :D) i cant fine a proper hinge, i want to have ring of plex around the joint, all around it, and a dont wanna have a hinge sticking out in the front, what you guys think
maximan1
06-23-2006, 10:55 AM
Hey man nice case but you should put more leds on the real one...I like the idea. Maybe you should put an LCD screen in there too.
Drac998
06-23-2006, 06:03 PM
piano hinge would be the cleanest and has the lowest visible profile possible.
GT40_GearHead
06-23-2006, 06:51 PM
this is how it should look
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/case4.jpg
10x for the piano hinge but it aint gonna work, i need something that folds inside of it but im dried off of any ideas:?
jestyyr
06-24-2006, 04:24 AM
considered cupboard hinges? you know the ones that are not visible from the outside but DO take a fair bit of space on the inside?
they might work, this is similar to an idea I had but not done yet (was planning to put the PSU sideways so it had a lower profile and drew air from outside the case to cool itself), I currently suck at (lack tools and experience) working with metals so have not done it yet:P plus my plan involved the Al fly screen rather than perspex.
Nice looking idea tho :D
GT40_GearHead
06-25-2006, 06:32 PM
think i found my hinge:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/TransAm-Engine1Big.jpg
see the hood hinge, my single question is this: i see it has two metal parts and that compresed air thing(the litle two black rods) BUT does it have any other part that is not visible:? :? :?
jestyyr
06-26-2006, 01:03 AM
look up those things to be sure but it looks like it probably has another HUGE bit underneath for at least one par of the metal things to attach to.
*I THINK the back pair of metal things are actually curved and either running through a track thing or attached to some kind of pivot.*
are these hinges just for when you are working inside it or do you plan to have it open frequently?
silverdemon
06-26-2006, 03:02 AM
no, that's all you need, the hinge thing and the rod-thing. Be sure that your construction is sturdy enough to take the forces.. those rod can be very powerfull, or you should get some that have less power...
GT40_GearHead
06-26-2006, 04:07 AM
the whole principle behind the case is to be practical, yeh it will be opened frequently
<EDIT> ouu and a nother thing: i see that everybody uses fans, personaly dont like them that much, sa I aint gonna have none:D i'm gonna blowers :D
i just have to finde 5 or 6 of them :p
http://www.gtweb.net/images/yellow/rk129_y.jpg
not this one but is just for reference
jestyyr
06-28-2006, 12:46 PM
looking at that and you are right, :P fool me, does just sort of look like two L shaped bits with a bar between them.
are not blowers usually noisier?
looking forward to seeing how you do this, looking forward to seeing how that hinge actually works.
had another idea for a concealed hinge as well if you are interested, is a bit less complex as well... maybe, an L shaped piece of, well a piece of anything strong enough to supporth the top of your case, on a hing would allow it to be set inside the case.
or if it is a computer you may want to have operating whilst open perhaps a toolbox style pair of metal bars on each side?
GT40_GearHead
06-28-2006, 04:04 PM
jestyyr
looking at that and you are right, :P fool me, does just sort of look like two L shaped bits with a bar between them.
are not blowers usually noisier?
looking forward to seeing how you do this, looking forward to seeing how that hinge actually works.
had another idea for a concealed hinge as well if you are interested, is a bit less complex as well... maybe, an L shaped piece of, well a piece of anything strong enough to supporth the top of your case, on a hing would allow it to be set inside the case.
or if it is a computer you may want to have operating whilst open perhaps a toolbox style pair of metal bars on each side?
well about the blowers.... i got a litke suprise instaled for you
about the hinge: well I just got a nother wierd idea, and the hole thing may change i just have to make a wood model to test it
jestyyr
06-29-2006, 05:18 AM
heh thats cool, I have kind of stuck the toolbox hinge idea into my own head now and will be playing around with it, altering it seeing if it will go well with my own plans, am still a total modding noob though, but am kind of limited in places to work on it etc.
well Now I am waiting for this surprise with the blowers that won't be noisy?
GT40_GearHead
06-29-2006, 06:02 AM
well Now I am waiting for this surprise with the blowers that won't be noisy?
http://www.crazypc.ro/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12215&d=1147546371
its a dataseet of the thing,
that is the surprise, no more ugly fans
jestyyr
06-29-2006, 01:10 PM
so does that mean you are picking/have picked your mainboard/video to work with this thing (getting rid of fans) or are modding them (water or heatsinks etc)?
GT40_GearHead
06-29-2006, 05:11 PM
ma' bad! when i said no fans I wanted to say no case fans, I wanted to go the water cooling way but i need sponsor, and i dont think any body would help because its my first big one AND i dont have enought SketchUp skils to make them understand what i want to build:( So i decided to build this one by my self to make a name for my self
So the blower will be the case fan if you can call it,(i may use 2 must check my funds)
simon275
06-30-2006, 06:10 AM
You can get some pretty cheap water cooling kits these days. (Ode to the days of using aquarim pumps and tubing) IF you dont want fanless kits Like the Zalman Reserator 1 it retails around the $200 US mark.Clicky (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=371032). While ones with fans are cheaper.Clicky (http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=375008)
NOTE: I' am using ZIPZOOMFLY as a benchmark for pricing in US$. Due to supply issues and exchange rates these kits may cost more in your home country. THXS
jestyyr
06-30-2006, 01:02 PM
depending on the components you pick you could still probably get away with very few fans, most of the good mainboard makers have at least a few boards in low, medium and high price ranges that dont use fans to cool the chipset etc, or if pre-existing parts there are replacements out there depending on the current state of your mainboards warranty and your regard for it.
and if organised correctly you might get away with replacing your cpu fan with the blower (depending on its power I guess, maybe a slightly larger heatsink with something to channel the airflow at the heatsink?).
this is probably my own dislike for fans speaking though, the dust faeries seem to feel great joy visiting fans in my pc over night, which with normal fans is inconvenient, but with the bridge, DPS and video card is a total pain.
GT40_GearHead
06-30-2006, 03:38 PM
well to help you guys see the whole picture here is the specs for my curent rig(i will use most of the hardware for the project):
mobo: P4C800-E-Deluxe
CPU: P4-2,4Ghz(northwood)
Video: Inno3D FX5200
Hdd: Seagate 120Gb 8mb buffer+Maxtor 30Gb 2mb buffer
PSU: EverPower 500W PFC
RAM:VM 256:( DDR400(did you ever heard of them?! LOL)
Optical: ASUS 52x 24x 52x CD-RW
thats about all
Airbozo
06-30-2006, 06:13 PM
the whole principle behind the case is to be practical, yeh it will be opened frequently
<EDIT> ouu and a nother thing: i see that everybody uses fans, personaly dont like them that much, sa I aint gonna have none:D i'm gonna blowers :D
i just have to finde 5 or 6 of them :p
http://www.gtweb.net/images/yellow/rk129_y.jpg
not this one but is just for reference
FYI those style blower are LOUD! I use them in my 1u servers and they do move air, but you wouldn't want to sit near one (like I do everyday).
Airbozo
06-30-2006, 06:34 PM
http://www.crazypc.ro/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12215&d=1147546371
its a dataseet of the thing,
that is the surprise, no more ugly fans
I have a similar set of these blowers sitting around in my "future mods" pile. I have powered them up and they are not that loud. I think it will depend on where you mount them and what kind of air baffle you create around them. They only have 2 wires (+ & -) so no sense wire.
P.S. I could be convinced to get rid of them... Just for you GT40
jestyyr
07-01-2006, 01:43 AM
I forgot the power supply too, as a location of a fan, will be interested to see how much these cross flow blower fans cost, and how effective they are at actually cooling/moving air.
you are inspiring too much case related mischief in my mind, bad gt40_gearhead :P
http://www.crazypc.ro/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12215&d=1147546371
its a dataseet of the thing,
that is the surprise, no more ugly fans
The lowest one on that data sheet is 49dBA which is noisy, my lowest case fan is 18dBA and i can hear that and its irritating as hell! Nice mod tho and that long strip blower is awsome! nice find mate.:)
GT40_GearHead
07-01-2006, 03:43 AM
P.S. I could be convinced to get rid of them... Just for you GT40
:( santa cruz..... thats a long way from here,do you have any idea of the shipment costs
GT40_GearHead
07-01-2006, 03:53 AM
I forgot the power supply too, as a location of a fan
I will use 2, the CFM for this model is 40 as i remember, i made my mind on this blowers because I hate blow holes or fan ports
the psu has a broken "leg" there is a popt condensator but still goes
got to get that sorted
Slug Toy
07-01-2006, 06:24 PM
The lowest one on that data sheet is 49dBA which is noisy
that is a problem. actually, thats more than a problem in my mind because im not a big fan of noise.
after having analyzed this for a while now, ive come to the conclusion that perhaps the blowers arent a good idea. if you still want to use them though, im not going to try to change your mind.
i DO have an alternative idea though. you could make your own blowers out of some nice quiet 120mm fans, because nothing symbolizes a modder more than taking something that serves a prupose just fine, retarding it, and making it do something else.
what you could do is get some acrylic sheeting and make a housing around a fan, kind of like on video cards. that way you can have air going sideways relative to the fan, and reasonably low noise because some of those 120mm ones are very quiet.
ill see if i can come up with something on sketch up to show you what im thinking.
<EDIT> damn, i had a stroke of genius. why not make a blower for each heat producing thing in your case, and shape them all like video card heatsinks.... one for the cpu, one for the gpu, the chipset, anything and everything. just have a couple on the actual case to keep air feeding in, but have most of the fans/blowers on the actual computer components.
uh oh, ive got more ideas, but ill have to draw them out to show you.
GT40_GearHead
07-01-2006, 06:32 PM
i cant open sketch up it sais that it has expired
what do i do :(
i need it to show you something
Slug Toy
07-01-2006, 06:37 PM
looks like you have to update. i got that message just now too. when you get that message, click the "download sketchup now" thing, and it should download a new version.
GT40_GearHead
07-01-2006, 06:44 PM
it wont work :(
i have to get it again
the thing is that must use the blowers i dont have any option, ni money for something else:( , i could get them to lower rpm
i will try to explain it in words
you see where the mobo is right
the blower will be fixed on the mobo panel, opposite to the back panel of the mobo,
it will suck air from the PSU, HDD CD-ROM side and spit it in the mobo side
This is the first blower
the second i'm still brain twisting to find room for it:D
Slug Toy
07-01-2006, 07:00 PM
the thing is that must use the blowers i dont have any option
ok, well nevermind my sketch up idea. that wont help you then.
i'm still brain twisting to find room for it
it looks like you're going to have plenty of room in the upper part. if it does end up cramped for space, you could put it between the cpu cooler and the video card, and have it sideways so air goes out on one side.
GT40_GearHead
07-01-2006, 07:05 PM
that would be a good idea for the second one
Slug Toy
07-01-2006, 07:07 PM
do a little math, figure out some dimensions, and then see if you can make it fit. if you cant get it, tell me the dimensions you want, and the hardware, and ill have a good look at it.
GT40_GearHead
07-01-2006, 07:12 PM
that is a deal
whan i get the blowers, i'l make some notes and send them to you
i should have the in 3 days the most
BTW: what do you think i could co with a 500W non atx server psu 5v and 12v rails
Slug Toy
07-01-2006, 07:18 PM
well if you dont plan to use it as your main psu, it can either serve as a back up for redundancy, or you could use it to power the lighting and blowers so there are two independent electrical systems going at once. OR you could piggyback two psu's to power a real monster system (maybe use one for the motherboard connections, and the other for video cards and drives.
if its your only psu.... well its pretty much set that you need to use it for everything. i hope it isnt the onyl one you have, because extra power is always a good thing.
GT40_GearHead
07-01-2006, 07:29 PM
my main psu is the everpower from the list, as i said this one is a non atx thing
i will use some servos on the frame(secret:D) thinking of powering them, but i dont know what thay need 12v 24v
Slug Toy
07-01-2006, 07:37 PM
this one is a non atx thing
oh.... ya.... i wasnt thinking there. ok, so then yes nifty doodads will be powered by it.
i will use some servos
you know, i was just thinking it might be cool to have servos open everything up. if they run on 24 volts, well im sure you could just do a little electrical fiddling and double the voltage easy.
GT40_GearHead
07-01-2006, 07:53 PM
i have to talk with my servo dude, see what he can give me but fitst i have to sleep
its 3:00AM in here and for the last 3 days this has been my bed time, wakeup call at 8AM= a very twichy GearHead
GT40_GearHead
07-02-2006, 05:30 PM
because i cant do anything until the blowers come in i thought i'll do some sketch work
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/blower2.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/blower.jpg
the 2 thingys near the mother board are the ducts for the blowers
you can see the blowers under the ducts
you can also se o space in the area of the ide plugs, that is the gap that wil allow me to conect the hdd psu and cdrom to the mobo
slug i hope you see this
Slug Toy
07-02-2006, 06:35 PM
yes i do see. i THINK it looks like it should work, but im not 100% clear on the motherboard orientation yet. maybe if you could add the motherboard and ducting together so i can see them both as they will be in the end.
now, speaking of the blowers and ducting. thats a little hazy in my head. is it safe to assume that the blowers are the long rectangles and the ducts are the two cylinder shapes? if thats correct, well there is probably going to be some turbulence at the transition between rectangle and cylinder.
remember.... the word of the day is SMOOTH, as in smooth ducting to minimize wind resistance, turbulence, and to a certain extent noise.
GT40_GearHead
07-02-2006, 06:50 PM
http://www.crazypc.ro/forum/attachme...5&d=1147546371
the long rectangles with a cylinder at the end is the cross flow blower(check the data sheet) the duct is the thing on the mobo side, the thing that looks loke a roof ouuu f#ck it can i sed you the sketch by mail
Slug Toy
07-02-2006, 07:07 PM
ya, just send me everything you think is important. im just having a little trouble wrapping my head around this ducting and blower stuff. its always easier to understand when its YOUR idea....
GT40_GearHead
07-02-2006, 07:23 PM
dude! check youre pm :D
Slug Toy
07-02-2006, 07:28 PM
done and done
GT40_GearHead
07-02-2006, 07:51 PM
so did the mail made it
Slug Toy
07-02-2006, 07:59 PM
i GET IT NOW!!!! thats actually a really good idea. i didnt realize that those two pictures you had WERE in fact the blower and motherboard together.
now that i see what all this is about, i have a suggestion. make a shroud to go over top of the motherboard and force the air along it. that way you get good flow across everything.
GT40_GearHead
07-02-2006, 08:03 PM
thats a good idea you know....
btw: do you think the blower needs a intake shroud, take a look at the datasheet to get a better view..... if you have the time
Slug Toy
07-02-2006, 08:08 PM
i would only say put a shroud on the intake if you want the intake air to pass across something or take a certain path. seems to me you just want to get it out of the lower section and into the upper section, so a shroud may not be needed.
i get the feeling two blowers may be enough for the whole case. i was just thinking... if you only have the two, maybe the case intakes on the bottom section could have a paper filter on them, and the top section case outlets could have a mesh to stop dust and stuff from falling in when air isnt moving around. if you do decide on putting a filter, you should probably make the intakes bigger to offset the resistance created.
GT40_GearHead
07-02-2006, 08:13 PM
you have a point there
u was thinking on making the back wall (aka psu mount)of the lower box from filters , but now that you said it.....
ouu and you are corect I only want to push the air up in the upper section
GT40_GearHead
07-04-2006, 04:56 AM
slug! remember the servo idea......:D well gues what:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/p10100395tt.jpg
this is the weapon of choice
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/p10100431bi.jpg
Slug Toy
07-04-2006, 05:08 AM
just have one question about those. are they going to be strong enough to lift what you want to move?
GT40_GearHead
07-04-2006, 05:10 AM
24v they are strong i cant stop it with my hand
Slug Toy
07-04-2006, 05:24 AM
strong enough.
GT40_GearHead
07-04-2006, 05:25 AM
yep thats wa' I thought
GT40_GearHead
07-11-2006, 07:28 AM
guys, i was looking over some offers an i come over this red LED 13000 mcd is this more that an red CCFL?
I'm thinking to use LEDs because they dont have that pink halo
(slug! help me)
Slug Toy
07-11-2006, 05:07 PM
well i see that some cathodes are rated at about 15000 mcd, just a little brigher than led's. still, dont let that discourage you.
i personally think leds are better because they last almost indefinitely, and have (what i would say) a cleaner colour.
cathodes suck a lot of energy too. leds dont.
so is this led thing a cluster of them or a single one? i would suggest getting single ones and sticking them all over the place inside the case so you can get an even amount of lighting. maybe even make some special mounts on the case for them.
bottom line: i say go for the leds. 4 or 5 should be enough to light everything pretty well.
GT40_GearHead
07-11-2006, 05:13 PM
so i was right
no cluster i'm gonna stick them al over the place so i dont get any shodows:D
4 or 5 you say (that should calm me down) I was thinking like 20 or 30
almost forgot they are 5mm not 3mm LEDs
ooouu oooouu must show you something (as soon as i get it uploaded)
Slug Toy
07-11-2006, 05:29 PM
4 or 5 SHOULD work. id get extras just to be safe though (maybe 10 to 15).
we are talking about super brights right? the super brights will definitely work with 4 or 5... regular ones... i dont know. i dont like the regular ones.
GT40_GearHead
07-11-2006, 05:38 PM
yes we are talking about super bright
the power thiing is a plus... thx
i made a list today of all the stuff a have to power and (hope you are seating down) it just hit me that i will have to use not 1 PSU not 2 PSUs but 3 PSUs
(what have i done.... its alive)
1 ATX psu for the hardware, one more ATX psu for the hans amd LEDs and a 24 volt psu for powering the servo
Slug Toy
07-11-2006, 05:43 PM
wow, three?
well i cant imagine that equating to more than 500W altogether, so three psu's just sounds like a lot.... but it isnt. i see what you're doing though... dedicated feeds for different devices.
GT40_GearHead
07-11-2006, 05:45 PM
yeah I just want to be on the safe side you know...
(bloody stupid conection)
GT40_GearHead
07-11-2006, 05:58 PM
well just finished the wood model
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/100_0630.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/100_0631.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/100_0632.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/100_0633.jpg
Slug Toy
07-11-2006, 06:03 PM
well just finished the wood model
.... and you... nailed it to your couch.... ???
excellent. now convert it to metal.
just wondering... how much longer until work starts? i think everythings figured out.
<EDIT> i saw the remark about the stupid connection. i dont think its just yours on the fritz right now. im seeing some odd things happening too... a couple posts have disappeared on me. wonder if it might be server-side. or maybe... we're all being hacked right now.
GT40_GearHead
07-11-2006, 06:25 PM
ha haaa
.... and you... nailed it to your couch....
nooow thoes are neadles not nails :D
as for the work... as soon as posible
btw what do you think of my hinge
Slug Toy
07-11-2006, 07:40 PM
the hinge? not bad... back in the day of knex that probably would have taken me the better part of a day to figure out.
GT40_GearHead
07-13-2006, 03:36 AM
one step closer to starting the real build
today a got my test super bright red LEDs, 2 of them, i love them so damn strong, in day light one will fill youre case with (red)light
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/led.jpg
hopin everything works out with this....its a pretty kickin case idea...cant wait to see the final product
GT40_GearHead
09-13-2006, 04:01 PM
yeeeyy
i did the first two pieces of the case
gotta wait for the cells to recharge so i can put some pics up here
it lives!!!
lookin forward to seein the pics....
GT40_GearHead
09-13-2006, 04:06 PM
i have a nother batch sent for the CNC mill :D
so we are starting to get there
GT40_GearHead
09-13-2006, 04:07 PM
btw: Xfire rock dude :| its insane
GT40_GearHead
09-15-2006, 05:07 PM
aaarrggghhhh....!!!
Photobucket is down, bloody hell....
~X(
dang...
you just had to go and break photobucket just to make me wait longer on seein your case
jk
GT40_GearHead
09-16-2006, 06:55 AM
yeeeyyy it works !!!
here come the pics :D
GT40_GearHead
09-16-2006, 07:23 AM
so the build begins... this may take a while :rolleyes:
let me put it in to perspective,
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/100_2234.jpg
and the joints
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/100_2229.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/100_2224.jpg
made the cuts my self on the CNC mill :p
Murader
09-16-2006, 10:59 AM
this looks good. man. its going to be heavy as **** though
GT40_GearHead
10-09-2006, 10:31 AM
update time:
made two more rods :D
so now i got 6 finished bits
and the base of the case is done
pics coming righ'up
GT40_GearHead
10-09-2006, 11:09 AM
pics:
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/100_2392.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g209/GT40_GearHead/100_2393.jpg
a.Bird
10-09-2006, 01:35 PM
You need to sandblast that ish.
GT40_GearHead
10-09-2006, 04:11 PM
i agree, but first you must be able to count 24 pieces
:D
tybrenis
10-09-2006, 04:44 PM
You have a CNC mill? I'm actually building a router in my free time. It's actually starting to come to a close.
GT40_GearHead
10-09-2006, 04:49 PM
i dont have it at home its at my dads work place, they have a CNC mill, some manual lathes , and a manual mill
do you have some pics of it ?
ps: i made the cuts my self on the mill :D
tybrenis
10-09-2006, 05:21 PM
Unfortunately, I don't have a working camera right now at home, and I have to use my dad's work camera, and he isn't home most the day. I have the drawings for it that I could show you, though.
http://www.powerpackedpc.com/images/tbcs/base_and_slides.jpg
The machine's rails and lead screws will be roughly 36" x 34" x 10"
The lead screws are 3/8" threaded rod, will be upgraded once the machine is up and running.
The linear bearings for now are not built. The slides will just be pieces of aluminum tube snugly fit over the slide rail, 3/8" steel rod.
My stepper motors have about 365 oz./in. of holding torque and should do nicely. I am using a Ryobi router for the spindle, mounted vertically on a piece of acrylic bolted onto a piece of MDF.
The machine's construction will be mostly MDF. Once the machine is up and running, I'll use it to cut nicer parts out to start rebuilding the machine.
GT40_GearHead
10-10-2006, 06:00 AM
very nice, your build looks very much the same with with Zittware's cnc, but i cant find it
why dont you put up a worklog
tybrenis
10-10-2006, 06:22 AM
I think I might, thing is, I'm not going to have hardly any pictures during the process of actually building it. Once it's done, it's going to be used to re-cut itstelf out. Perhaps I'll get more pics out of that, once I have a camera.
GT40_GearHead
10-10-2006, 07:11 AM
how far in to the build are you
tybrenis
10-10-2006, 03:25 PM
The controller is completely done.
The computer to be controlling it is set up and ready to rock.
All the parts have been accumulated. I have built the mount for the router, as well as the frame for the X axis. The gantry still needs built, and I'm turning couplings on a lathe, so the motor shafts still need threaded so I can begin work on the custom couplings.
The bearings have been installed, as well as the bars that the liner slides will be guided on.
That's about it. But from here, stuff should come together fairly quickly.
GT40_GearHead
10-10-2006, 04:02 PM
well as you sayd , its almost done :D
its great to have you'r own CNC, the one i use is the size of my room and it eats titanium blocks bigger that me, you can imagine how it is to stay by it when its working
btw are you using ballscrews?
<EDIT> found the link and its not zittware, its JavaDog, damn i'm a fool
http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=87545&highlight=ball+screw
tybrenis
10-10-2006, 04:10 PM
Ha! I wish I had ballscrews! Lol, I'm using threaded rod. It SUCKS, I know. However, when the machine is built and I know it's working, I'll be upgrading to ACME threaded rod, then ballscrews eventually. Also, I'll be replacing my crappy aluminum tubing slides with actual linear bearings.
GT40_GearHead
10-10-2006, 04:13 PM
man, how I would love to build one of this things.... :((
tybrenis
10-10-2006, 04:19 PM
Go for it! It's definately challenging, but if you do your research and take your time it should be very rewarding. I have been researching this for over a year now.
GT40_GearHead
10-11-2006, 12:46 PM
i would start right now, but (a big BUT) cant find anything around here,
the stepper motors, the control electronics, the structure is not a problem, but the vital parts are nowhere.
btw: what are you using for steppers(spelling??)
tybrenis
10-11-2006, 04:04 PM
I bought my steppers off of eBay. I got four of them for about 50 dollars including shipping, a steal considering they have about 350 oz/in of holding torque!
I built the controller myself.
GT40_GearHead
10-14-2006, 01:28 AM
what is the power of the router
Murader
10-16-2006, 12:08 PM
this is coming along well Gearhead
GT40_GearHead
10-16-2006, 02:26 PM
this is coming along well Gearhead
thanks :D
tomorrow I should be able to make a nother two pieces,
so that would be a total of 8 bits out of 24, so i still have to make 16 bits:D
Slug Toy
10-16-2006, 05:15 PM
that almost sounds like computer talk now... 24 bits, 16 bits left.
i just had a random thought... took me long enough to think about this. how about chroming everything after you're done building. im still working on that keronite stuff... but patents are getting in the way of the actual theory behind it, and werent you talking about doing a keronite coating? anyways... chrome would be just as cool, but not as hard.
GT40_GearHead
10-17-2006, 12:37 AM
that almost sounds like computer talk now... 24 bits, 16 bits left.
i just had a random thought... took me long enough to think about this. how about chroming everything after you're done building. im still working on that keronite stuff... but patents are getting in the way of the actual theory behind it, and werent you talking about doing a keronite coating? anyways... chrome would be just as cool, but not as hard.
:redface: :redface:
chrome.... you see if i would live is Canada or UK or US that would be one of my first options, but back here this is no where to be found, and if i find it they would probably say that they would help me if i need 500 pieces:mad:
tlakin about chrome... did you know anything about hydrogen-enrichment
it seems to take place in steel pieces after chroming, as a result of the acids beeing used :?
And about the keronite, you could say that this thing is top seecret or something, i cant find a damn thing about it, except one site(http://www.keronite.com/power_unit.asp)
Murader
10-17-2006, 11:59 AM
i live in canada if you need help with something like that besure you let me know
GT40_GearHead
10-17-2006, 03:07 PM
i just had an idea!
i'll see if slug can help with SketchUp
Slug Toy
10-18-2006, 01:06 AM
tlakin about chrome... did you know anything about hydrogen-enrichment
it seems to take place in steel pieces after chroming, as a result of the acids beeing used
ill look into it. it doesnt make sense to me, but ill do some research.
GT40_GearHead
10-18-2006, 07:32 AM
Hydrogen Embrittlement is the corect name of the phenomen
this should put some more light on it
http://www.nmfrc.org/crarchive/feb02a.cfm
http://www.finishing.com/1600-1799/1747.html
http://www.nhra.com/dragster/1999/is...echnology.html
Slug Toy
10-18-2006, 03:02 PM
well thats interesting. i wouldnt have thought hydrogen gas would be an issue. id be more concerned about the acids eating away at steel, or even oxidation. you might be able to stop this with some cathodic protection though. cathodic protection is basically touching a more reactive metal onto the piece you want to plate. they do this with big transformers... they stick pieces of zinc on them so the transformer doesnt rust. the zinc eventually gets eaten away, but you just replace them and keep going. it may work for electroplating as well.
something just doesnt feel right about that still. it just doesnt really make sense to have hydrogen do this. i think there might be something else going on that i need to look into.
GT40_GearHead
10-19-2006, 06:55 AM
did you do anything more to the designs for the car
Slug Toy
10-20-2006, 06:19 PM
nah not yet. ive got all sorts of projects whirling around right now, plus school. midterms have come around again... and my days are pretty full. im actually not doing much of anything aside from research into keronite and chroming now... and drawing at school when im bored.
dont you worry about me though... get this mod done. im still watching. ill get my stuff done... eventually... whenever i get a break from this crap school.
GT40_GearHead
10-21-2006, 02:59 AM
damn, when do you finish school ???
GT40_GearHead
11-21-2006, 07:41 AM
i must apologize for the lack of activity, there has been some problems with the CNC mill, and the CNC is the only way i can cut thoes 45 deg angles dead streight, once again I apologize !
Murader
12-02-2006, 03:40 PM
he gearhead how comes it? got ya cnc fixed?
GT40_GearHead
12-02-2006, 05:31 PM
well the CNC is runing now, but i just cant get any time on it, lots o orders for titanium, hhhhhmm it may be you and you'r build :D
Murader
12-04-2006, 09:36 AM
hah id have loved for it to be me and mine but well was just a little outta my $$$ range hah
GT40_GearHead
12-04-2006, 04:13 PM
i know man, i know :((
but i just can't resist the thing, obey.... obey....@-)
Murader
12-05-2006, 10:04 AM
any current pictures? for some reason mine wont upload from my cell
GT40_GearHead
12-05-2006, 10:09 AM
well, no pics, i don't have any thing to show :(
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