Starting a modding contest!!!

[maximan1]

I've looked on the internet only to find that the minimum age req on ALL of them is f*@&*(! 18 years old. This is not fair to us 13, 14, 15, 16, and 17 year olds around here. That is why I have decided to start my own contest.
This contest is just for the hell of it, I can't afford any prizes. The only thing the winner will recieve is the feel of being the best and my unstoppable admiration :D. I will need voulenteers for judges.
I will start a website tomorrow (its midnight).
All you people who want to voulenteer for judges of the contest please PM me, and all you modders who want to submit their mods, just post them here. I will post them on the site when its up and running.

SUBMITTING RULES:
When submitting please include a short 200 word description of your rig and possibly a link to the worklog. As for pictures please limit yourself to 5 pics.
If your computer is lighted you may have 5 daytime and 5 nighttime pics.
NO ADVERTISING YOUR SITE!!! There is no age limit.

Thanks, maximan1

EDIT: Just in case, do not post on here Crimson Sky. You'll easily win...like you would care :(

[maximan1]

No one cares, huh?

[MrSlacker]

To be honest, there is no point if there is no prize... I can get the same opinions by just posting my case in any thread

PS: dont mean to offend u

[.alchinko.]

yeah good point but you could do something like have a checklist from 1-10. here it is post your case on here then have other people rank it.

Rank each category 1-10

Paint:
Lighting:
cleanlyness:
Originalinalty:
ventilation:
window:


if you have any other categorys add them.

[maximan1]

Creativity:

NOW PLEASE POST!

[.jrauck]

Ya no one will probably want to do this unless there is prizes. I wouldnt but I dont ahve any money right now freakin xbox live people stole my money :(

[simon275]

Yeah a competition would be cool if there was a sweet prize like a graphics card or something would might actually force me to mod my gaming PC. Maybe you could try and get every one to chip in or charge people to enter and use some of the money for charity and some for a prize. people love doing things for charity.

[GT40_GearHead]

i could do this, prise or no prise just for the fun of it:D, about the the prise you could try to get a spons in to this
<Edit> let me know when the site is up

[.Maleficus.]

Does the case have to have any internals? Because right now I don't have enough money to buy the parts going into my case, and if one of the catagories is like wire managment, then it couldn't be rated for that. What would happen then?

[tybrenis]

I'l be starting a charity PC in about a month and a half. Hold on back. :)

[maximan1]

Does the case have to have any internals? Because right now I don't have enough money to buy the parts going into my case, and if one of the catagories is like wire managment, then it couldn't be rated for that. What would happen then?
It can be just a case, no problem.

[maximan1]

YAY I GOT SPONSERD!!!
Butcher's auto shop has case decals and he is willing to give the winner:
Both of those bestcasescenario stickers and the round logo would have "Best Rig Winner 06" or something on it.

NOW WILL YOU POST??? lol
You can customise the words at the bottom of the round one.

Thanks, maximan1

[maximan1]

Oh and btw the stickers would be CHROME!!! :D

[GT40_GearHead]

maximan1 count me in
BTW: take a look at my worklog, maibe you like what you see :D

[maximan1]

http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3193&page=1

This is the worklog you're talkin about, right?
I need the case to be, well, um, a case :D. It can't just be a sketchup drawing.

[tybrenis]

Count me in.

http://thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2145

[.Maleficus.]

Ok, I'll try to finish my computer in the next week or so. When is the deadline? Also, who's judging? Just you? Or is this like a community judging?

[GT40_GearHead]

need a deadline dude, the case will be a case , but that depends on the deadline

[.Maleficus.]

need a deadline dude, the case will be a case , but that depends on the deadline

Agreed. If it's in like 2 or 3 weeks, there is more time for the finishing touches.

If it's sooner than that, that excludes a lot of people from entering cases that are still in the construction stage, let alone cases that are still just ideas.

Also, has this officailly started?

[GT40_GearHead]

whit all my metal work I coul need like 2 months lol

[Slug Toy]

ideally, id be in on this too seeming as i think my masterpiece is shaping up in the idea zone right now.

im going to need a while though... like at least unitl the end of august, because i have school to deal with until the end of july.

this may get interesting though....

[MrSlacker]

Question, my worklog is in the form of an article on another website, would that work? I know u said cant pimp other sites, but its the only place I have it on.

[maximan1]

Yeah it can be on another site, as long as I get 5 pics. ON THIS THREAD.

[maximan1]

Lesee...Deadline July 14
BIG DAY!!!
Winner will be stated here and PMed also

[maximan1]

Count me in.

http://thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2145

Lighting: 10
Cleanlyness: 9
Ventilation: 1 (I didn't see a fan. If there is one please show me)
Creativity: 8

Good job ;)

I need more people to rate this!!!

[butcher]

I got a idea... give the people a deadline... When that deadline is reached, all the people that are participating I will create a poll online where people can view the cases ... then rate them.. and my poll would automaticly email you (MAximan) the results..???

[maximan1]

ok sounds great.

[MrSlacker]

Another question. You said it needs 200 words write up, my worklog (link in sig) has like a million words describing it... so can i just post 5+ pics and the link to worklog?

[maximan1]

Website up and running!!!
If you would like to add anything to it please tell me.
The address is www.bestrigscenario.co.nr

[maximan1]

Another question. You said it needs 200 words write up, my worklog (link in sig) has like a million words describing it... so can i just post 5+ pics and the link to worklog?

Yup

[simon275]

I would love to join in this competion. I have something cool planned ;).

If we have like a 2 month deadline then that would be cool.

If we did modding competions on TBCS we could get losts more users on and attract attention of big companies who could sponsor the comps. like Nvidia and stuff having a fat grpahics card as 1st prize would be cool.

[maximan1]

Sorry I can't make the dedline farther from where it is now, I am leaving for camp after that day.

[Slug Toy]

well so much for that... i most definitely will not be done anything in two weeks. i may not even be out of the design phase.

do this again some time... with like a two month deadline, and ill be in then.

[.Maleficus.]

It seems like lots of people are being excluded due to the short deadline. How long are you going to be at camp? The deadline could be sometime after you get home. Then maybe people that have one completed already could enter a second. (If that is allowed.) But I think a longer deadline would be good. More competition that way :P People would have less of a chance to win, but we can see more cases.

[GT40_GearHead]

in two weeks could have all my parts home, only then i can start making something, some people have big projects, that start from 0 like i do, you just cant do that in two weeks... hell not even in a month

[butcher]

I think we should do it in quarters.. summer to fall..... fall to winter... winter to spring.. then spring to summer.....

4 contest per year... and 3months to do create... Maybe give a theme to design by like maybe one quarter do a gaming theme... then the next quarter a retro theme... or a vehicle theme,,, endless possibilities..

[Slug Toy]

I think we should do it in quarters.. summer to fall..... fall to winter... winter to spring.. then spring to summer.....

4 contest per year... and 3months to do create... Maybe give a theme to design by like maybe one quarter do a gaming theme... then the next quarter a retro theme... or a vehicle theme,,, endless possibilities..

sounds to me like we have a plan forming. well, maybe not a universal plan, just one guy's idea right now, but i can see it panning out.

prizes for something like that? i personally wouldnt expect any... bragging rights for a win is good enough for me.

[MrSlacker]

No offense, but this is just a little contest that maximan1 is doing for fun. The ones who want like half a year to do their mod should enter their creations in more serious competitions. This is not a contest to win a video card or something... just a sticker. Some of you are taking it far too serious IMHO

[silverdemon]

It's not all about the prize, If somebody enters a contest it is an extra motivation to make it even more beautiful, or of better quality...
I think it's a nice idea to do some contests, even when there are no prizes to be won, we'll still see a lot of mods and the contenders probably had a lot of fun modding...

[simon275]

Quater's sounds like a great idea. Bah! who needs prizes when respect for a mod well done is better than a prize. (Video card is over the top I admit) And actually having a TBCS compeition to call are own would be cool. Might even attract some new talent to the forums.

[maximan1]

Yeah I guess I will get the deadline to August 15, but no more than that.
EEE :)

[.Maleficus.]

Yeah I guess I will get the deadline to August 15, but no more than that.

Yay!


Now, LET THE MODDING... BEGIN! lol I don't know if I have the authority to say that, but that was fun. :P

[maximan1]

Does anyone want to submit?

[tybrenis]

I already did.

[maximan1]

And you have athouroty

[silverdemon]

OK, so here are my ratings on the "Cirque du Soleil"-case:

paint: 0 (i see no paint :P so no point on this)
lighting: 8 (nice desk lighting too, too bad the display in the front is still blue)
Cleanlyness: 9 (I can see no imperfections, case just looks very clean)
Originality: 9 (I like the shape of the case)
Ventilation: 1 (I only see the PSU fan, and no real ventilation holes)
Window: 10 (it's only windows and plexi, so full points here!)
Creativity: 8 (you have been very creative with this case)

total score: 45 out of 60 points (not counting paint)
Overal: A nicely build case, nice shape, great plexi work, good job on the lighting.

[.Maleficus.]

Before we start rating, shouldn't there be a standard rating system? Because all acrylic cases can't really be rated on paint, and a water cooled case can't be rated on ventilation. Also, if a case doesn't have a window, it can't be rated on that. There should be like ratings that can be rated on all cases, not just the standard metal and plastic ATX case. A few examples:

Creativity - Pretty much speaks for itself.
Innovation - Again, pretty much speaks for itself.
Colors - Lights: Is it too crazy? Too little? Too many different colors?
Paint (When applicable): Too plain? Not even?
(If not lights OR paint is present, then, I guess... you can't grade it..)

You know, stuff like that. Because if we all use a different grading scale, then it won't be a fair competition.

[tybrenis]

yeah, the scale needs modified.

No paint? It has a custom airbrushed/spray painted mouse, keyboard, AND monitor.

It is completely watercooled. Ventilation.... not necessary.

[qoou]

theres really no point, unless sponsers are involved.

[tybrenis]

theres really no point, unless sponsers are involved.

yeah, thats true. I could win some stickers... :D

[.Maleficus.]

Any input on a grading scale? I think what I posted is a good start, but it's not done yet. Anybody have any other ideas?

[tybrenis]

I dunno - but we need to set aside at least 3 people to be judges for these cases. The judges can't be in the running for the competition, that would bias their opinions. I say we come up with a 100 point system, just like grades in a school. Hehe, maybe we can make one of those damned four point rubrics.

[Slug Toy]

i suppose i could volunteer if you guys feel more judges are needed. i think i have a fairly good sense of what is awesome and what isnt. i would just make a request that if you want something to be noticed, include pictures to highlight it.

as for points systems... if we go with 100 points, we should probably try to have as many categories as possible and have them at 10 point each. maybe a few exceptions, like effort involved... that should be weighted more heavily.

ill just list some things and then we'll see what happens:

-labour- 20 pts: how much work was put in (either from seeing the worklog or by going on description and evidence of detail)

-paint/finishing- 10 pts: good paint, polishing, sanding, etc

-lighting- 10 pts: if there is any, does it fit in with the case, and how well

-coordination/continuity- 10 pts: if the case is themed, a continuity check will see how well everything sticks to it, and if it is not themed coordination will check to see if everythign just looks like it fits

-originality- 10 pts: of course we're always looking for something new and cool

-effect- 10 pts: the overall impression given by the mod, such as how well it represents a theme

-cooling- 10 pts: amount of work put into the cooling (lower points for slapping on stock cooling and minimal thought to air/water flow, higher points for better performance and engineering)

-organization- 10 pts: did the mod go well and was everything done on time for submission and done effectively

-functionality- 5 pts: smaller points here because some cases will not be intended for a lot of use, points awarded based on how well it "should" work

-writing- 5 pts: seeming as there was a 200 word write up, points should be awarded for how well this is done (again, not a huge part because not everyone speaks perfect english)


thats my two cents... or 100 points... worth.

[tybrenis]

Thats a great idea slug toy. I'm for your system.

[Omega]

When was the finishing date agian?

If I finish my mod before/on that day then I'll submit, but don't expect it.

[.Maleficus.]

Sounds good to me, but I still have one problem.

I brought up this problem earlier, and that is having the components inside the case. I don't have enough money (and still won't by Aug. 15) to buy the parts for my case. I suppose I could add cooling and lighting, but the cooling couldn't be graded on it's effectiveness if it's not cooling anything. The lighting wouldn't really be a problem, I could light what would be lighted without have the internals of a computer. But functionallity? Nope, couldn't be graded. Therefor, the highest grade I could get would be an 85, and that would be a perfect score for my case. And unless everyone is a VERY tough grader, there would be no point in me entering.

If that is a problem, I also volunteer to be a judge.
Actually, I just volunteer to judge. I can enter in another one, because these competitions could be fun and I see this continuing.

But this is something to think about for the future.

[Omega]

What you could do is "Handicapped" scores, like people with no actual computer don't get graded on that, so 85 is a perfect score out of 85 and not out of 100.

That's how it would have to be for mine, too. The components probably won't go in until long after It's finished, or until I actually get them (If I get new ones)

[Slug Toy]

I brought up this problem earlier, and that is having the components inside the case.

personally, i wouldnt be concerned. this is a case mod competition.... the case has to work well, not the insides. just hook it up to a battery to run the lighting if you have to. all i would need is to see the case and any accessories (water blocks and stuff like that, any custom pieces that hook up to hardware, and maybe a brief description of what they would do, and a diagram of the cooling systems). basically, dont worry about hardware unless you plan on having it as an integral part of the mod.


What you could do is "Handicapped" scores

it is a possibility, but it SHOULDNT have to happen.... for the reasons i just mentioned.

well, on another note... looks like my points system is fairly good. glad to hear it, and it also sounds like i shouldnt be too surprised if i end up being a judge.... i guess well see in a while.

[maximan1]

Slug is a judge. The deadline is August 15. No insides are needed. No handicapped score. Insides will not be rated, but may be noticed. Slug Toy HURRY UP with that system. Set it all up.

[Omega]

it is a possibility, but it SHOULDNT have to happen.... for the reasons i just mentioned.

I'm saying that not everybody has enough components to put into a case to make it run as a PC. now, everybody should have a backup PSU (If you don't no offence, but you're retarded...), But aside from that, I doubt we'll have cooling systems for computers we don't have and the like.

EDIT: I still think that handicapped scores should apply. Not for everything, but for certain categories, like how well it cools and things having to do with actaul working components.

I will admit, however, that handicaps on the categories that the person didn't touch (aside from internals), such as paint, metalwork, or whatever, should not get handicapped.

[Slug Toy]

Slug is a judge.

alright then, looks like ill have some work to do.


HURRY UP with that system. Set it all up.

are we talking about the points system or my mod? the points system is no problem, but the mod wont happen in this time frame, its down below school on the priorities list, and wont even start until about august 10th.


I still think that handicapped scores should apply.

well i cant argue with the boss, but ill do what judges do, and use my judgement. im going to say that i think cooling and functionality will be the "optional" ones for now. i do, however, consider functionality to be more than just "does hardware work in it?". functionality will include moving parts on the case, extra displays, and things like that as well.

and thats kind of all i have to say right now. im suffering from a little food poisoning right now... id go into a little more detail if i were in the mood, but not right now.

<EDIT> one last thing. i should warn again that if you want something to be noticed in particular, add in an extra picture or bit of writing. i dont mind going through an extra few here and there if it gives me a better understanding of what im looking at. if you dont provide enough, i can only go on what i THINK im looking at, and we dont want that now do we?

[.Maleficus.]

Handicapped scores sound good to me.

[.Maleficus.]

Also, I was just thinking about this. What about having different classes or catagories? Like based on modding experience. I know for people like me, it's a little intimidating going up against people with a lot of experience. Maybe something like this.

Beginner: 0-2 previous mods.
Intermidiate: 3-5 previous mods.
Advanced: 5+ previous mods.

Or wherever you think you fit best. If you have like 1 mod but think it's really good and you should be in the Intermidiate catagory, go ahead.

But that way, there will still be competition, but some less experience people like myself will still have a chance. If this doesn't work out, that's fine, but we might have more people submit entries if they know they have a chance.

[tybrenis]

Yeah, Cirque du Soleil was my first mod. That sounds like a good idea but I don't think we have enough people to make categories like that.

[silverdemon]

no there aren't enough... for now you are still the only one... Though I might post my entry next week... (paint is still drying...)

[TheGreatSatan]

I don't participate in contests like this because I hold them. Let's see I've given away 2 full towers, a projector, a motherboard and a heatsink. Yep, I won't be competing

[butcher]

OK................................................ .................................................. .......... thanks for letting everyone know you are not competing,, I myself couldnt sleep last night just wondering if you were or not.....:)

[MrSlacker]

I will enter one of these days... lol

Also what do u mean internals wont count? Water cooling and wiring is a big part of my mod and I think it should be counted. If you have a nice case but your wires look like a bird nest, you should lose points...

[butcher]

I think this contest is no more......... the holder banned??

[silverdemon]

why not? He just offered the idea, and there seem te be some people who want to enter... most people think it's a good idea, so why not just go on???

[butcher]

The contest SHOULD go on.. but there needs to be a base... a set standard on entry, rules, dates, and scores.......

5 days later in this thread and there is none of this.....

Since i was going to throw in some stickers for the winner I met as well take over this contest, if in fact maximan is banned..

[butcher]

or does anyone else want to take it over??? :) :?

[Slug Toy]

The contest SHOULD go on.. but there needs to be a base... a set standard on entry, rules, dates, and scores.......

this sounds like a job for.... me? what do you mean me? oh alright.

i can set up a finalized points system, entry rules.... things like that. i cant set up a website or anything for it, but ill put it in here when im done. it may take a while (as in it will be done tomorrow if things get screwed up).


Also what do u mean internals wont count? Water cooling and wiring is a big part of my mod and I think it should be counted.

if you want it counted, then it shall be. we will only remove certain categories for people who dont have the watercooling or wiring (this is basically that whole argument about not having anything to fill a case). like i said before... cooling and functionality will probably be the optional ones. ill see if i can split up functionality into two sub groups though because "i do, however, consider functionality to be more than just "does hardware work in it?"


Though I might post my entry next week

please do. its no fun to win by default.


Beginner: 0-2 previous mods.
Intermidiate: 3-5 previous mods.
Advanced: 5+ previous mods.

thats a good idea. if you want to be in a certain category, just say which one when you enter. we should probably have only one for this time though, seeming as we may only have two or three entries.


I don't participate in contests like this because I hold them.

satan has a point here. even though he didnt really need to post just to tell us he wont enter, it brings up an issue. we shouldnt have entries from judges or the contest holder/s. so for the next one, if i submit something... im not a judge for that contest.


so.... if maximan did get banned... and you're second in command butcher... i suppose im answering to you now. if you need anything, just say so.

<EDIT> ah, you dont really want to be in charge? well i hesitantly accept responsibility if this is true. if im already volunteering to judge and get rules and stuff in place, its not too much extra to take full charge.

[MrSlacker]

He got banned? Lol i wonder wat for

[butcher]

Slug Toy , if you want to do the contest it is all yours...... Start from scratch ... anyone that has already posted... your entry is void until otherwise..

Once slug has set everything up... he will tell you what he wants done...

I will provide the two TBCS scenario decals to winner,, and possibly some more stuff...

[silverdemon]

"I love it when a plan comes together..."

[butcher]

Kind of gives you a tingly feeling inside.....:D

[Slug Toy]

right then, i suppose there will be a couple changes if im in charge now. i dont know all of them yet, but ill have it worked out by the weekend.

first order of business is to get the rules and scoring scheme done. second order of business is to set a date for submission (it can stay as august 15, or it can change, depends on what everyoen wants). third order of business is to get people interested. and fourth order of business is submission.

that is what ill work on over the next two days.

oh, by the way... what do you think of my new sig?

[DaveW]

It's too large.

-Dave

[tybrenis]

Sounds good slug toy - I think you sig is WAY over the limit and you'll probably be told to get rid of it soon. Read the forum rules.

[tybrenis]

Hehe lol Dave and I said the same thing at the same time... hehe

[.Maleficus.]

Ahhh, NOW we have something... This is shaping up to be something that could be quite good. So I guess Max's old website is no longer the actually website? And are we still doing the handicapped grading scale? Well, it looks like Slug has everything under control so until more posts are made, I have no more suggestions.


He got banned? Lol i wonder wat for

Yeah, I was wondering that too.

BTW Slug, I like the new sig. I don't know what it means, and it's ginormus, but for some reason it's funny to me. Maybe it's the fat guy with the whips... yeah, it's the fat guy with the whips :D.

[Slug Toy]

So I guess Max's old website is no longer the actually website?

probably not. i have another idea for that.


And are we still doing the handicapped grading scale?

yes, that will still hold, but im changing some of the categories a bit.


It's too large.

ive cut out the bottom quarter, so its smaller now. still too big? if it is, well i have to draw up another one....

<EDIT> i just saw a while ago that maximan was banned for 10 days. that presents a problem... i dont know if he wants to give up control. i say that to be fair, we put it to a vote.... me or him, just to get it out of the way now. if you choose me, things will be done by saturday i think, and then submission can start. if you choose him, you can submit to his site and wait until he gets back to see whats going on. either way, im staying as a judge, so its no loss no matter what way this goes. if theres no real response... ill keep going until someone stops me.

[Rankenphile]

Slug, the sig is still too large. Keep it t around 150 pixels tall please.

And do we really need a sig that says "rampant buggery"?

[Slug Toy]

Slug, the sig is still too large. Keep it t around 150 pixels tall please.

And do we really need a sig that says "rampant buggery"?

oh alright... ive got some other pictures i can scan in and use.

[butcher]

Maximan has emailed me.. His ban from the forum is for 10 days.. For user bashing.... So he may still want to do this.... I dont know what to do .. im just the sticker man...

[Slug Toy]

well... ask if he wants to keep going on this and tell him im more than happy to take over if i have to. ill still work on a few things if he still wants control over this, but i guess i just wont be in charge of organizing submissions and whatnot.

[.Maleficus.]

I think Slug might have to take this one. Back on page 3, Maximan said that he was leaving for camp the day after the first deadline, which was July 14. His ban is for ten days, and ten days from today is July 16. So unless he has access to a computer at camp, and can organize it there, Slug will have to run this.

[butcher]

Do it to it then SlugToy.... I have the utmost confidence in you... :)

[Slug Toy]

very well then. it shall be done.

[Slug Toy]

right. ive got some things figured out, and ill go with them for now. suggestions are still welcome though.

first, the points scheme:

LABOUR- 30pts (26.1%)
FINISHING- 10pts (8.7%)
COORDINATION/CONTINUITY- 10 pts (8.7%)
ORIGINALITY- 10 pts (8.7%)
EFFECT- 10pts (8.7%)
ORGANIZATION- 10pts (8.7%)
WRITING- 5pts (4.3%)
COOLING (option)- 10pts (8.7%)
LIGHTING (option)- 10 pts (8.7%)
PRACTICAL/THEORETICAL FUNCTIONALITY- 10pts (8.7%)

TOTAL- 115pts

there will also be FOUR categories: Beginner, Experienced, Advanced, and Master. ill grade a little harder and be more meticulous at each level.


next, rules:

pretty simple really. submit pictures and a write up of a modded case by the deadline specified.

this time around, i think ill accept any mods that are done in time (meaning ANY mod no matter when it was done), and ill keep the deadline at august 15. for future ones, the deadline will be three months from announcement, and all mods submitted should be done in that time, no earlier and no later of course.

there may or may not be suggested themes. i dont want to do that because it may hinder creativity. on the other hand, if demand is high enough for something in particular, i will suggest a theme.

the write up should just be a walk-through of the mod. you can mention features in particular, or you can outline major events in the course of the mod, or you can explain the theme. anything goes really. the word limit will be at least 200 words, and there is no upper limit. you can write as much as you want if need be.

ill state this for the third time too. make sure you mention something if you want me to make a note of it. if you put a lot of work into a fan grill but it doesnt show very well, tell me that i should pay attention to it, and possibly provide a picture focussing on it.


and lastly for now, how do you submit:

you can submit to me by PM, or by msn, whichever works for you. give me everything, the write up, the pictures, and ill sort it out. just put "mod entry" as the subject. ive put my msn address on my profile now, but ill put it here too.

mike1507011987@hotmail.com

when all submissions are in and graded, i will make a new thread in the chatterbox entitled "TBCS mod contest" and ill add spring or fall or the name of the theme so you know which one it is. ill put each entry in its own post, highlight some features, and include a score.

to keep things rather orderly, submission will start one week before the deadline, and will close one day after. im not going to be a dick and disqualify for being a little late.



so that is what i have right now. i think its a good start. ill take any suggestion now. this went a little faster than i expected, but thats good because this is apparently going to be announced on the front page and i think ill do a little write up to be included in the announcement. that will take a little time, but keep a look out for it.

and start spreading the word. anyone and everyone here who has recently finished a mod or who has started one and can be done by august 15th. anyone from another forum who wants to enter is welcome, but of course they need to sign up first. the one or two people we have right now is not a very good showing.

[Omega]

Sounds marvelous. I'll post it on P-Team and CMG. Somebody else can take GruntvillE and [H]ardOCP.

[silverdemon]

Are there going to be more judges? I think it would be fair to have at least 3 or more judges, so you can rule out 'personal opinion' (not that I don't trust you slug, but I think it's fair...)
I would like to rate some cases, BUT I would also like to enter this contest, and I believe it is then not allowed to be a judge... but for the next rounds I can be judge if you want me to...

One small little question though: Are you going to find some sponsors or something? Maybe you can get a sponser to give you a little prize. I mean, the stickers are a nice start, but if you can get bigger prizes it would be nice. Also one could then award prizes for more people...

[Slug Toy]

Are there going to be more judges?

sure, why not. i think butcher might want to be one if hes got the stickers and such. anyone who wants to volunteer, just say so. one thing i would like to ask though is that the judges have some scientific knowledge behind them, and mod experience. for instance, ill be assessing cooling using a few simple principles of fluid dynamics and thermodynamics, as well as for visual appeal. any mod work will be assessed keeping in mind what type of material it is.... and i specialize in metals, so i definitely know what it takes in that area.

so basically, anyone who wants to be a judge can be, but it would be great if you have some useful knowledge.


Are you going to find some sponsors or something?

that would be a good idea. i really dont know where to go for sponsors though. even though i fiddle with computers, im not in the scene enough to be making contacts all over the place. i DO have a few computer stores in the area that i could pick up parts from as prizes, but i really dont have a lot of spare money... its in bonds and stuff like that. if someone can find me a sponsor, ill definitely send an email or two.


Also one could then award prizes for more people...

that could happen. the beginner level would get a slightly lesser prize than the master level. this may encourage lots of interesting work if there is reason to really go over the top.


ive got a couple things to work out still. got the "official" announcement to prep for, but ill try and get through this stuff ASAP.

[Scotty]

Sounds cool, wouldn't mind judging myself have a little bit of knowledge on cooling, but visual would be my area really, i know what a pain acrylic(perspex, plexi) can be after working with it in school and cutting it with a dremel.

If you want i could post on [H]ard Forums

If you need any graphics i could get some done :P

[tybrenis]

I would gladly be a judge. I have expertise in acrylic and plastics, airbrushing and painting, and water cooling. I also have a good idea of pretty much everything else involving modding, those are just a few things I really specialize in.

[Airbozo]

right. ive got some things figured out, and ill go with them for now. suggestions are still welcome though.

first, the points scheme:

LABOUR- 30pts (26.1%)
FINISHING- 10pts (8.7%)
COORDINATION/CONTINUITY- 10 pts (8.7%)
ORIGINALITY- 10 pts (8.7%)
EFFECT- 10pts (8.7%)
ORGANIZATION- 10pts (8.7%)
WRITING- 5pts (4.3%)
COOLING (option)- 10pts (8.7%)
LIGHTING (option)- 10 pts (8.7%)
PRACTICAL/THEORETICAL FUNCTIONALITY- 10pts (8.7%)

TOTAL- 115pts

there will also be FOUR categories: Beginner, Experienced, Advanced, and Master. ill grade a little harder and be more meticulous at each level.



I like all of the catagories, but feel the Labour could be subjective. For instance I can rewire and hide almost any cable in my sleep, but am really a noob to the case modding and painting, whereas some people would be stumped with what to do with extra drive cables, but plexi windows and a custom paint job are easier for others.

That said I do stand by the criteria you set. It will make for an interesting competition. I will NOT be able to finish my mod by the time limit so I will not be able to participate in this round (still trying to figure out some math involving a plexi sphere. Think bubble gum machine computer...oops I said too much!:D ). I would like to volunteer my services as a judge...

[Slug Toy]

but feel the Labour could be subjective

unfortunately, the labour area WILL be subjective to a certain degree. theres no way around it... things will be easier for certain people, and will seem easy to some judges. theres a benefit of having more than one judge.....

speaking of judges. like i said, anyone who wants to be one is in right now. i think ill have to slightly modify the method by which judging happens though. i think now what ill do is start the new thread, post each submission, and then the judges can make posts with their take on everything. and it would be nice if nobody else posts until all judges give their verdicts. ill still organize all the submissions, is that alright?

lets see... judges right now are me, airbozo, tybrenis, scotty and butcher im hoping. thats five.... any more? i think five is enough, but more is good.


If you want i could post on [H]ard Forums

sure, we can use all the exposure possible right now.


If you need any graphics i could get some done

are we talking about photoshop graphics? i suppose we could use a graphic for the very first post (kind of like an intro graphic for the contest). if you want to do that, send me a PM or an email so we can figure out something that looks cool.

<EDIT> gt40_gearhead just signed on as a judge too.

[GT40_GearHead]

:D let's spin this sh!t:D

[.Maleficus.]

:D let's spin this sh!t:D

Sounds good to me!

[Slug Toy]

well i thought id clarify things just a little bit. ive gotten a few questions about this so far.

judges: you dont have to worry about anything right now. your jobs come in august when the entries are submitted. you guys can just sit back for now. i get to do all the work in the mean time.

contestants: start work now. even though there hasnt been anything announced yet, go ahead. for the sake of simplicity, im going to hold strong about submission starting a week before the deadline. i have exams at the beginning of august, and they are done on the 8th, which is exactly one week before the deadline. that lines up nicely in my schedule, so i dont have to be multitasking.

for future contest, i wont ask that you only submit in a one week window, you will be able to submit any time.


now as for the announcement... ive fired off a little speel about it to DaveW, as he mentioned putting it on the front page. if you guys want to see an announcement... kindly direct your nagging to him (not that i mean to be putting pressure or anything.... but i think we're all waiting). you can nag me too if you want, but i dont have any power beyond what im doing now.

so... if you guys want this to happen (i know you do, and i do too), lets keep the momentum going, and um dave... we're ready when you are;)

[silverdemon]

yeah, I'm ready too :D
just finished rebuilding my mod (had to paint the inside) and now it's all back together and much better looking
and above all... it works again :D
will make pictures tomorrow or so, and will post it as soon as the submit-week is ;) (I will also post it somewhere else on this forum...)

[Scotty]

are we talking about photoshop graphics? i suppose we could use a graphic for the very first post (kind of like an intro graphic for the contest). if you want to do that, send me a PM or an email so we can figure out something that looks cool.




Yep photoshop, macromedia flash animations (although im really nooby at flash), 3ds max (even noobier, so darn hard to figure out)

Im going t5o PM you right after this post

[TrickyStylez]

Well this sounds interesting.. Would it be a problem if I'm an admin on http://pixel-team.com already? I'd love to enter but my computer is already top of the line fully modded .. air brushed and a 3d render on the other side .. liquid cooled , uv tied and cathode and uv fan filled..

[Scotty]

now as for the announcement... ive fired off a little speel about it to DaveW, as he mentioned putting it on the front page. if you guys want to see an announcement... kindly direct your nagging to him (not that i mean to be putting pressure or anything.... but i think we're all waiting). you can nag me too if you want, but i dont have any power beyond what im doing now.



I have the power! well maybe not but, if you hadn't noticed ve got a news update on the front page poted by DaveW maybe if i write something up and send it to him he MIGHT put it on the front page, well see been busy latley thou, Also ill get to work on some ideas for graphics

[Slug Toy]

Well this sounds interesting.. Would it be a problem if I'm an admin on http://pixel-team.com already? I'd love to enter but my computer is already top of the line fully modded .. air brushed and a 3d render on the other side .. liquid cooled , uv tied and cathode and uv fan filled..

nope, no problem entering. you probably fall in the master category (its your choice on what level you want to enter in though). just send me the pictures and writing somewhere between august 8th and 15th.

[DaveW]

It's already on the front page...including links that i added in for you...just don't let me down ;)

-Dave

[Rankenphile]

By request I am opening this thread, and therefore this contest, once again. Maximan could not learn from his previous warnings and is therefore not coming back to this forum. Slug Toy has agreed, quite graciously, to continue his efforts in hosting it.

Have fun, and good luck.

[Slug Toy]

Slug Toy has agreed, quite graciously, to continue his efforts in hosting it.

to add to that:

1. dont let this little hiccup scare you... things happen. i wont let this contest slide as long as im in charge.

2. as soon as i mention sponsoring or prizes, nobody seems to be interested. anyone have any ideas for finding donations? this is probably the single most aggrivating thing right now. i cant inspire anyone to give anything.

3. everything that i laid down before still stands... so as you were men....


ive got this bad feeling that we may end up without much for prizes. ill bet you we have to prove ourselves first. we probably need one contest to go by so i can take the results and say "look at this talent we have here... if you were smart you'd associate your products with people like this"

so aside from that... we now return you to your regularly scheduled day.

[Scotty]

don't forget about me. lol

Slug toy the logo idea is coming along SLOWLY paul gave me permission to use the logo for the contest ill speak to you soon on MSN

[GT40_GearHead]

ou ou and me, i'm still in :D

[wisbill]

I am new to modding, but not to contest's If you going to get a sponser you are going to have to make it worth their time and money. for example require the use of a product such as a fan, water cooler, video card, mobo, or sound card. Or you could make them display the companies name and colors in a visible spot for advertising. You will also need to show that it will have exposer. and since that would be hard to do an entry fee

If you relly want a prize I would sugest entry fee/ prize :
beginner $1 -- prize 80% in entry money
advanced $2 -- prize 90% of entry money
expert $3 -- prize 100% of entry money +20 % of beginner money + 10 % of advanced money

this would incourage people to be honest with the fact that their are the level they say they are.

but then you would have to ensure that who ever is in charge of the money doesn't run off with it-- not calling you a thief slug i just don't know you.

just a suggestion take it or leave it:)

[GT40_GearHead]

i dont think slug would run with the money, that is not the problem, the problem is that by puting an entry fee, whe exclude people, some ar from the US or Canada or UK..., puting that fee makes their life harder

[silverdemon]

entry fee = not a good idea
like GT 40 said there are people from outside the US, and the payment _will_ go wrong... too much paperwork...

I'm still in though, prize or no prize...

[Slug Toy]

yup, i dont think the fee is a good move. i sure wouldnt pay to join a contest, so i wouldnt expect anyone else to. it DOES make business sense, but i dont do business, i do fun.

just an update about the prize situation. i finally have some interested people. i dont want to say more than that right now, but at least i got someones attention. it could mean that i would need to break off and start an independent site to simplify sponsor associations and affiliations, but thats only if i can make something happen.

imagine that... me in charge of a website... thats a scary thought.

[b4i7]

ill join in the contest.....sounds like fun

[dave0123]

I would be willing to sponsor a prize, like maybe a decent little graphics card (or better yet possibly a liquid cooling system) or something of that nature. Maybe a gig of ram or something. I'm not sure exactly what, tho.

I'd want to give something that ppl who modded could use, b/c many would have g/c's and cooling products already. So what are some good ideas for useful prizes? (and it could't be like a whole system or anything -keep costs in mind, here.)

But of course there would be quid pro quo as well, as all sponsors get. I'm thinking... hmmm. Well, I don't know, I'll think of something fun.

But the mod contest should have some type of structure, -possibly more than just amateur/ prof classes. It would be a big help for modders to have guidelines or even a theme (poss. guidelines like internals optional, etc. and possible themes like mechanical automation or whatever -or if there were enough entries you could have different areas for each -I would be willing to supply more than 1 prize).

One thing a contest needs to be successful is a baseline of contestants. Like you said, 2 entries do not a contest make. There really needs to be a number of entries to justify the entire deal. That said, the deadline for this first one is (imho) a little soon for a good run. I mean, it was June 20something and you still didn't have much advert. or prizes up. Whynot a little more time to put the whole shebang together, for word to get out so ppl can submit, and maybe there'll be more entries, and I'd feel better about donating the prizes if there were a number of 'em.

PS- If I donate the prizes, then of course I won't judge.

LMK how things are going, and if its all still in the works.

[Slug Toy]

wow, talk about generous. are you really willing to supply prizes? no kidding?

as far as i know things are still looking good. ive asked everyone to hold off submitting until the 8th, so we'll see what happens then. i think the interest is there.

i would agree that for future contest there should be some structure. ill probably put it to a vote each time and go with the most popular idea. for this one time around though... well if you read the entire thread you would see that this whole thing had a lot of turmoil around and the fact that im in charge is kind of a good accident. it isnt quite coordinated enough yet to start throwing out themes, and there was only about a month timeframe for this after everything was said and done. not enough time to do anything really. i think things will work for future ones though, i like the semi-official system im running on, it seems to be keeping things organized although it kills my head on a regular basis.

by all means though, you dont have to not judge unless you really dont think its fair. ive got a few judges signed up and in waiting, but now i cant remember who... we can always use one more judge to get a better spread for averaging.

and quid pro quo? im not up on my latin... but i would assume that means "i do something for you, you do something for me". im fine with that, but i cant speak for everyone else. just name it when you think of it and ill see what i can do.

[Rankenphile]

So you guys know, we are planning on having a lot more official TBCS contests coming up pretty soon, with prizes and everything. If anyone wants to help with prizes, sponsorship, any of that, please contact me or DaveW.

[Scotty]

Woah Dave generous :D Ive been helping Slug Toy a bit but being in the UK and he's US its not that easy :S

[GT40_GearHead]

i belive canada is a more corect location;)

[xpc]

how about other countries? :(

[GT40_GearHead]

i was talking about slug's home coutry

[Rankenphile]

Slug is in Canada. Vancouver, British Columbia, to be specific.

[Scotty]

fine... still nowhere near the UK, or England to be more correct

[Slug Toy]

ahem... GENTELMEN, START YOUR ENGINES!!!

as of now i am officially done exams, and have no worries. therefore you can now start submitting your mods to me in any way shape or for.

remember this though:

-i would like a little write up to be submitted too
-if you want me to take note of something, make sure you mention it
-it may be better to send everything to my hotmail address, so i can organize everything into folders and archive it in case someone wants to revisit or challenge a past ruling

so as of now you have until the 15th (midnight i suppose) to get that stuff in to me.

so lets get busy here... again.

[GT40_GearHead]

he heee glad to hear that about youre exams :D

[silverdemon]

few questions:

how many pictures (max) ??
how long should the story / write-thing be? (how many words) words
In what format would you like the whole thing? Pictures and a txt-file? or in a word-document? PDF?

greez ;)

[Slug Toy]

no limit on how long the write up can be... as many words as it takes to tell the story.

no limit on pictures either. if i have to, ill sift through and pick the best and most indicative pictures for each mod. ill try to include all the pictures you send me though.

format doesnt really matter either. im pretty sure i can open any type of word document or image. im sure the standard will be jpg's and notepad or microsoft word. i CAN do pdf's too, so thats not out of the question, although i find them to be better suited for large academic papers.

[Slug Toy]

cough cough...

its august 13th... do you know where your submission is? i dont... i havent gotten any yet.

two days people, depending on where you live. two days.

that is all... for now.

[.Maleficus.]

Sadly, due to lack of funds, I won't be done :(. Maybe next competition...

[silverdemon]

I'm sending it tomorrow, I want to do a last spelling check and make sure I've got all my pictures with it...
It's 1 o'clock at night here, so I will get some sleep first and tomorrow afternoon (or evening) I will send you a zip file with my entry

... don't worry, I haven't forgotten about this ;) ...

[Slug Toy]

ok, i have to stop taking submissions now. its teh 16th where i am, but im not too sure about the rest of the world.

if you still have a submission and its not yet the 16th where you are... by all means send it and argue... but i dont get the feeling ill be receiving any more.

so, my judges. be ready. im organizing the pictures, and ill be posting soon, as soon as i can go through and give my score to each.

[feldm4n]

How many people entered all together Slug?

[Slug Toy]

get this.... two!!!

i could have sworn there were more people... i think i counted 4 or 5 initially and then there were some outsiders interested too.

this guarantees a win in every category now, and thats whats going to happen too.

unfortunately no prizes still. no one is interested in that area yet either. i was talking to some people at gainward and freecom and thermaltake... they acknowledged me, but basically told me to piss off.

bragging rights is fine for now though.. right? i know you definitely get some feldm4n (everyone else will see this soon enough).

[.Maleficus.]

Well, if we have another competition, I will definately be ready for it, so I will enter then. If we do have another, any idea when it will be?

P.S. Is my sig to big? Or is it ok?


Edit: when will it be?**** Just me and my bad typing...

[DaveW]

Ah well, don't worry too much. We only had one entrant in the first modder's challenge. We're hoping for a lot more this time. Hint hint. ;)

EDIT : Your sig seems fine to me.

-Dave

[.Maleficus.]

Ok, cool. Yeah, I will enter if and when there is another competition. By then, I should have all the parts for my computer anyways.

[feldm4n]

Eh forget about my entry slug. I would rather wait for the next one.. is that cool?

[Slug Toy]

Eh forget about my entry slug. I would rather wait for the next one.. is that cool?

if you're sure about that... i guess so. seeming as this was sort of a warm up, the next one probably wont have a theme or any restrictions again, and a longer deadline so hopefully more people will be able to enter.

i suppose ill be announcing the next contest as soon as i get the submission posted for this one. keep an eye out for it... its not going to be in this thread... this one has served its purpose and can go away now.

[.Maleficus.]

When can we expect the submission to be posted?

[Slug Toy]

tomorrow i guess. i had things to do today, and its late now. i still have to upload all the pictures... and have a REALLY good look through everything to scrutinize the hell out of it.