TJ06 Airflow

[illvm]

I have a Silverstone TJ06 case. It does wonders for keeping my CPU cool, but unfortunately, there very little airflow anywhere else in the case. I added a PCI slot cooler to keep my video card cool. However, this still doesn't fix the air flow issue. The case has 80mm and 120mm fan intakes with a "wind tunnel" going over the CPU area of the motherboard holding another 120mm on the other side. This provides an excellent flow of cool air over my CPU, but the only thing keeping my other components cool is the 80mm intanke.

I am hoping to add some sort of exhaust in the area next to the PCI slots and am wondering how to go about doing this. The area in question can be seen by looking at the pictures below.

http://silverstonetek.com/products/tj06/34-view/tj06.jpg
http://silverstonetek.com/products/tj06/back-view/tj06.jpg

The only idea I have no is picking up one or two slot coolers and finding a way to mount them in there. Does anyone else have some ideas on how to go about doing this?

[rocksplit]

hey man.... buy a liquid cooling system

[illvm]

I just don't see how my video card reaching over 116'C warrants a liquid cooling system. :P

Yeah... I'm surprised it hasn't melted, too.

P.S. Never, and I do mean never, buy a video card cooled with heatpipes.

[AKA_RA]

116 celcius? i really really hope you meant fahrenheit. other wise...you could literally boil water with your graphics card. but if you did mean fahrenheit then its not a big deal cuz your card isnt even hitting 50'C and thats well within what i would consider to be an acceptable range

[illvm]

116 celcius? i really really hope you meant fahrenheit. other wise...you could literally boil water with your graphics card. but if you did mean fahrenheit then its not a big deal cuz your card isnt even hitting 50'C and thats well within what i would consider to be an acceptable range

Oh no, I did mean Celsius. At least that's what ATI Tool tells me. Once it hits about the 117-118'C mark the VPU hard locks and I have to do a hard reboot. I am really surprised it hasn't melted yet.

I suppose the reading could be off though, but I don't see how it would be off more than 10-15'C. Either way, 100+ 'C is way too hot for a VPU.

I really think this is mostly an airflow issue that could be solved if the hot air was actually forced out of my case rather than vented out.

[notochord]

whats wrong with the heat pipes on a video card my 7900gtx has them and its stays cool

[illvm]

whats wrong with the heat pipes on a video card my 7900gtx has them and its stays cool

Might be because your case has much better airflow than mine.

[Silenced_Coyote]

You said something about picking up some slot coolers but you need to figure out a way to mount them. Don't you just stick them above the card (since your motherboard is oriented in an upside down fashion)?

I also saw this from Lian-Li and maybe you can figure out a way to screw it in the small vertical vent next to the cards.
This is the blower fan:
http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Accessories/Other_Blower_fan.htm
This is how it is installed in Lian-Li cases:
http://www.lian-li.com/Product/Chassis/Middle_Tower/V_Cool/M_V_C_PC-V1200plus.htm

So you'll be putting it in the exact same spot, next to the video cards to exhaust hot air.

[GT40_GearHead]

well 100Celsius aint that much, you must not forget that the capacitators on the card can work fine up to 115C so...
ou and for the water cooling, you aint gonna boil nothing, because the water is moving, and it can absorb a lot of heat wery fast, so youre GPU will not be capable to get that hot...
and you should check to see if the thermal compound is ok, or if you dont have to much dust on it

[Silenced_Coyote]

100 C is a lot. It is the boiling point of water.

I'm not sure about this, but just because the capacitors on the card can work up to 115 C, I don't think it is the same for the graphics processor and video memory.

Even if it is the same temperature and considered "safe". I don't think it is ideal temperatures. It is like the same thing with CPUs. Wouldn't you want your CPU to run in the 30 C range?

It is true that you aren't going to boil anything. As long as you have a radiator to dissapate the heat from the water.

But I was looking around to buy a case and saw the TJ06 and was worried about the airflow.

Anyone can feel free to correct me. I'm still "anodized" :)

[GT40_GearHead]

i agree, 100C is not an ideal temp, but you must not forget that the GPU is a very solid pice of kit, when it gets soldered on the PCB they heat it from above so the solder balls under it(Ball Grid Aray) melts, and solder melts at over 100C(i cant remember the exact temp )


BTW: i dont see any problem with that case's air-flow, if there is not something wrong with the heatpipes it should cool preaty good

[Airbozo]

and you should check to see if the thermal compound is ok,

This would be the very first thing I would check since heatpipes are very efficient at cooling the gpu. Also do you have heat sinks on the oncard memory? Some temp sensors are not located on the gpu but next to a memeory chip (not many since this is inefficient).

[Silenced_Coyote]

I think that operating temperatures are not soley (or not at all) based on the materials around it (like the solder balls). For example, the melting point of copper is 1083C. So speaking in terms of metal, it is solid.
Just did a very quick Google search and found this. I am not sure how reliable this is or if it is true:
Semiconductor junction temperatures usually determine the maximum operating range of circuits, although electrolytic capacitors, if used, can also be a determining factor.

[slaveofconvention]

If you want a quick and relatively cheap solution, there's little that will work better than cutting a 120mm blowhole in the top of the case - heat rises and it'll exhaust plenty of heat while keeping noise down

[Razors Edge]

Look, If you're video card gets past the 100 degree celcius point, then adding 1 or 2 8 cm's isn't going to affect it much. only water cooling will help you with that.

Go down to you're local hobby shop and pick up the cutting tool. I forgot what it was called, but it has a spinning blade at the top. There are also tools that cut perfect circles. Its really simple. All you need is a very strong sand paper, a drill, and a electronicly operated cutting tool.

Hobby shops can you hlep out out with those.

[qoou]

i hated that case. to use the cooling duct you have to buy their heatsink. that case is a waste of money.

[slaveofconvention]

Could also consider an uprated cooler for the graphics card - the Accelero X1 and X2 are highly rated, nice n quiet, and the next thing on MY shopping list...