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Indybird
08-09-2006, 11:58 PM
I've got a Intel Core 2 E6700 with stock cooler, and the stock cooler doesn't keep it cool enough. I'm looking for a good fan and/or heatsink that is compatible with it.

Thanks, Indybird

Silenced_Coyote
08-10-2006, 02:31 AM
The stock cooler should even if you overclock some, unless you are overclocking the the limits with the stock cooler. What is your definition of "cool"? What temperature is it running at now? What do you want it to run at?

Slug Toy
08-10-2006, 03:10 AM
well it IS just an LGA775 processor... so any heatsink that fits that size will work.

something from zalman or thermaltake should work good. im partial to the blue orb because of the efficient design (thermodynamics crap that basically says the blue orb is a very good design).

Indybird
08-10-2006, 12:59 PM
I should have said "it doesn't keep it cool enough for me", I like my computer to run reeallly cool, so I was wondering if there was one thats even better than the stock cooler...

I know it runs cool enough, I have it O.C'd to 3.05GHz and it didn't get much hotter than when it was stock...

Silenced_Coyote
08-10-2006, 02:35 PM
I would recommend the Zalman CNPS9500 or the Thermalright Ultra 120.

If you still aren't satisfied, go with watercooling (add a TEC if you are crazy enough).

Just make sure it fits the LGA775 socket (like what Slug Toy said).

MitaPi
08-10-2006, 05:54 PM
I would say if you can afford it... go with a water cooling kit. And not one of those cheapo's. I wouldnt trust them since for me its not worth losing an entire computer because of a cruddy H20 kit leaked or something. I have a Thermaltake volcano 4005 heat exchanger. Its a Fan/Heatsink/H20 combo. ...and its very pretty ^_^

Edit:
Correction, I AM BUYING a TT Volcano. lol Just thought I would clear that up. Do alot of research. I dont want to affect your overall decision. Also I am having 2 rads for my water cooling kit. In other words... I am a low temp freak too. I'll basically have three rads cooling off my cpu, gpu, and ram. Should be a pretty cold computer if you ask me. ^_^

Silenced_Coyote
08-10-2006, 07:21 PM
All depends on your ambient temperatures though.

I was just wondering... What pump(s) are you going to be using with that setup MitaPi? Do you have a strong enough pump to keep up the high flow despite the pressure drop of 2 rads and 3 water blocks?

MitaPi
08-10-2006, 07:32 PM
I'm going to be using a danger den MAG II LE. If it doesnt do the job then I might get the DD-D5. I really dont have alot of money to spend though. I'm hoping the MAG II will do the job because its cost efficient.

simon275
08-10-2006, 09:16 PM
I would just go with a zalman cooler personally. Water cooling can be to much hasle and if you dont have the money to get quaility water cooling parts you are better off with a air cooling solution. Although the http://www.pccasegear.com.au/prod3221.htm kit from cool trek is cheap and pretty cool (pun!)

(I couldn't find an international link)

MitaPi
08-10-2006, 11:28 PM
I would just go with a zalman cooler personally. Water cooling can be to much hasle and if you dont have the money to get quaility water cooling parts you are better off with a air cooling solution. Although the http://www.pccasegear.com.au/prod3221.htm kit from cool trek is cheap and pretty cool (pun!)

(I couldn't find an international link)


well it sounds like he just wants to cool is CPU. So I think 200 bucks for a kit that he doesnt need wouldnt be that cost efficient. If he wants air cooled I would go with a top of the line zalman. 80 dollars tops? BUT! For the same amount he can get a small water cooling kit (say... danger den? ^_^) that would make that zalman look pretty much a useless. Also what he has can be oc'd like mad. Which in that case.. I would definitely go with a water cooling kit that just cools the cpu. My entire kit isnt the best.. but is far from the worse and its costing me about 200 bucks. Go hand picked.. dont buy kits. Unless they are good ones.

Edit:
Not saying that that kit is a bad one. I havent looked at it yet but I bet it would be pretty good. Just be sure to do lots of research befor you buy things computer related! ^_^ Thats advice I will never forget! lol

Silenced_Coyote
08-10-2006, 11:37 PM
$80 was a bit off.

Zalman CNPS 9500 for $52:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118223

Indybird
08-10-2006, 11:39 PM
Water-cooling is the one thing I don't know, could you give me a recommended parts list for just cooling my CPU for 80 or less...Thanks :D

MitaPi
08-11-2006, 12:46 AM
Ha, I could.. but that would be dangerous on your part. I would advise doing ALL the research yourself so you know what you are doing when you finally set it all up. Remember.. research research.. and research! ^_^ I will how ever give you the parts you need.

Pump
Radiator
Reservoir
CPU Block (I suggest TT Volcano 4005 Heat Exchanger, cost more though)
Tubes (I suggest Tygon because they dont kink easily)
Fittings
Clamps
Um.. I feel like I am seriously forgetting something! lol oh well.. like I said.. RESEARCH!!! You should go from this... ^_^ to this.... &_&. At that point.. you should know you know enough lol. Know everything you can know untill you are mentally secure in what you know and how to do it and stuff like that. You can check out the basics of my H20 Kit below...

Silenced_Coyote
08-11-2006, 02:02 AM
I don't know how good of cooling performance you would get for an $80 or less water cooling setup. You might as well get a Zalman to save youself the trouble and money.

Oh, and you forgot to add the most important thing. WATER! Well, distilled water with some special additive. I think there are certain liquids that you add to your system without water.

MitaPi
08-11-2006, 02:18 AM
THATS IT!!!! lol omg.. I am freaking retarded. I would go with coolant and not just distilled water.. get the premixed stuff if you dont know how to mix it. www.xoxide.com sells them.

Edit:
Thinking about it now.. I agree. Unless you want to spend a lil bit more on the h20 kit. I would go with a 5.25 bay reservoir, Danger Den MAG II LE Pump, Tygon Tubing, Thermaltake Volcano 4005 Heat Exchanger, and all the fittings and clamps and stuff.. you can still keep that relatively cheap... I am going to say... under 150. Still better than a zalman if you ask me.

meticoeus
08-11-2006, 11:28 AM
I'd like to point out that in general a reservoir is an optional component. I you are going liquid and want to cut costs efficiently (not cheaply, that'll cost lots more in the end) you can skip the res, add a T-line right before the pump flow-intake and connect a simple fill-port. This gives the same benifit of a res in terms of flow and bleeding, but you may have to re-fill more often, not sure. As tygon is a chem-lab grade tubing, it shouldn't "leak" as much as other tubes in theory you should need to re-fill slightly less often. I'm not sure so don't quote me on that ;p.

Silenced_Coyote
08-11-2006, 12:46 PM
For $150! Of course that is better than a Zalman. Not to mention the price is 3x as much.

He already gets good cooling with the stock Intel cooler. He really doesn't need to get an aftermarket HSF. But it doesn't hurt. But water cooling, IMO, is uncalled for. No need to take that big of a leap up in cooling when you don't have a "real" heat issue.

Indybird
08-11-2006, 01:26 PM
yeah, I've checked out all the watercooling and its too expensive and not actually worth it.

MitaPi
08-11-2006, 08:44 PM
Ok ok, so water cooling cost twice as much as the leading zalman heatsink/fan! I was merely making a suggestion for just in case he wanted to over clock. As I understand it, the Intel Core 2 Duo is great for oc'ing. But if you arent an insane person like me :D Even a cheaper zalman would probably do great. That is what I was originally going to do before I discovered water cooling. I mainly like it because it looks cool. ^_^

Edit:
Not the zalman dont look cool btw! Cuz for a fan/heatsink they look GREAT!

.Maleficus.
08-11-2006, 09:08 PM
Well, since I'm looking for a Core 2 Duo heatsink/fan right now also, have a question about 2 coolers.

Since I don't have a mobo or any other part for my computer (I'm waiting for some price drops and such) I don't know how much room I will have for a cooler. This makes me skeptical about the Thermaltake Blue Orb II. Apparently it's huge. So I was looking at the Thermaltake Golden Orb II. It is smaller, but from what I read at www.xoxide.com, it has half the air flow output that the Blue Orb does. So, should I take my chances and get the Blue Orb and get more airflow, or be safe getting the Golden Orb and sacrifice airflow?

BTW, I'm getting it now because www.xoxide.com has them on sale right now :P


Edit: Ooooo, it seems www.xoxide.com has lots of Thermaltake CPU coolers on sale. That may help your shopping.

Silenced_Coyote
08-11-2006, 10:08 PM
Well, do you plan to overclock your CPU? If so, by how much? Do you have a potential PC case in mind that you want to buy?

I would take the Blue Orb because I like blue and lots of airflow! :D

.Maleficus.
08-11-2006, 10:24 PM
Yes, I do plan to overclock, but not too much.

And I already have a case, it is here. (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1779365&CatId=1842)

I think I will probably get the Blue Orb, because it does move more air, but I would still like your input.

Indybird
08-11-2006, 10:39 PM
I already have a NZXT Lexa, so I'm not shopping for a case.

But I just found out that for some strange reason my MB had the fan running at 75%. I raised to 100%, it still didn't get loud enough to hear and got my CPU 8 degrees cooler :) .

Strangely enough I'm still thinking about getting the thermaltake Blue Orb II because that looks a heck of alot better than the stock cooler, and its not that expensive.

Silenced_Coyote
08-11-2006, 11:17 PM
Hmmm... I really don't know if it will fit or not. And since the case has the PSU mounted at the top, there really isn't that much modding you could do with that in the way.

One of the things that makes the Conroe a great overclocker is that the amount of heat that rises per increase in MHz is low. So if you overclock a little, the heat will not jump to crazy high temperatures. You can overclock a good amount with the stock Intel cooler. Therefore, either Thermaltake cooler will be great since both are better than the stock cooler.

.Maleficus.
08-11-2006, 11:28 PM
Well, in that case, I guess I will go with the Golden Orb. If it isn't going to need that powerful a cooler, then going smaller will be better. Thanks for the help!

Silenced_Coyote
08-11-2006, 11:40 PM
Hold on a second. Please forgive me. I should have looked up some reviews before I gave my recommendation. I just did a Google search and opened up 3 review sites that I heard of.

Overclocker Cafe showed that it was 6 degrees cooler than the Intel stock cooler:
http://www.overclockercafe.com/Reviews/cooling/Tt_Golden_Orb_II/pg4.html

techPowerUp! and Neoseeker showed that the cooler performance is the same.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Thermaltake/GoldenOrb2/2
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Reviews/ttgoldenorbII/2.html

So there seems to be a mix of performance...

.Maleficus.
08-12-2006, 09:08 AM
In that case, do you think I should take my chances with the Blue Orb? I'm really going for something that cool good, but be really quiet as well. And they both appear to have the same noise level rating, so do you think Blue?

Or, are there any other quiet coolers you would suggest?


Edit: Never mind actually. I just placed my order for the Blue Orb. And if I have any problems with space by my PSU or something like that, it's fine, I'll find a way to make it work. This is a modding forum, right? :P

MitaPi
08-12-2006, 11:31 AM
Hey that is a pretty nifty looking cpu cooler! AND ITS SO QUIET FOR MOVING SO MUCH AIR! Thermaltake comes through again! ^_^ Be sure to let us know how it turns out! Pictures would be good too! :P

.Maleficus.
08-12-2006, 12:01 PM
Will do! Though it may not be for a while, as I now only have about $50 and the only other part I have is my case...:( Hopefully I will get some money soon and get my stuff, but maybe I can test it on a computer I have here already...;)

MitaPi
08-12-2006, 08:18 PM
Just take your time. Thats all I could ask for! lol especially me! Since I wont be near done with my rig for about another 3-5 months! :P Being broke is not fun!

Silenced_Coyote
08-12-2006, 08:35 PM
I won't be starting to buy parts until november/december time.... I waited for over a year to build my pc... I can't wait anymore!

MitaPi
08-12-2006, 09:56 PM
I won't be starting to buy parts until november/december time.... I waited for over a year to build my pc... I can't wait anymore!

Psh! I hear that! I have been wanting a nice rig FOREVER. I cant wait past december. I am going to at LEAST start it here pretty soon. Well... unless I change my mind again! lol That seems to happen alot to me... but thats ok. Thats how I arrive at my destinations! ^_^

Indybird
08-12-2006, 10:28 PM
Normally I don't have alot of money, but I won a local gaming contest (UT2004) about 3 months ago and have $2000 bucks that I put towards a new computer (check my sig). All I had to do is get the internal stuff since all the external stuff I have is already more than satifying...

Since my case already had such good cooling I thought, why not my new proc?
By the way I ordered the thermaltake blue orb.

.Maleficus.
08-12-2006, 10:40 PM
Being broke is not fun!

I hear ya! I'm finally getting a little money this week, and that's where the cooler is coming from. Hopefully I'll find a way to get some money, but until then, my empty case will be sitting empty for a while.

Silenced_Coyote
08-12-2006, 10:45 PM
I wish I at least had a case. All I have is a Saitek keyboard. I plugged it into my laptop to get some satisfaction from the blue glow.:p

MitaPi
08-13-2006, 12:13 AM
ah Saitek. I was going to get one of those just because they are in my opinion the coolest looling ILLUMINATED keyboards around. But I got the logitech wireless desktop instead as a birthday present ^_^

.Maleficus.
08-13-2006, 08:30 AM
I wish I at least had a case.
The only reason I have a case is because it only cost me $10 lol.


Edit: On a side note, I just bought this (http://http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835150010) heatsink as well, for my Linux rig with an Athlon XP. Lets hope it was a $10 well spent lol. Hopefully I can get a higher overclock than what I have now.

Silenced_Coyote
08-13-2006, 08:31 PM
What heatsink? The link isn't lead to Newegg. Do you really need to overclock a Athlon XP that runs Linux?

.Maleficus.
08-13-2006, 10:18 PM
Oh whoops. Here (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835150010) it is. Well, this is mainly just practice, as it's my first time overclocking. And besides, the cooler I have now sucks lol. It's loud and doesn't move much air.

MitaPi
08-13-2006, 11:30 PM
That thing looks like it was built strong! Lets hope it cools the same way eh? ^_^

Looking at the average rating though it must be pretty good!

.Maleficus.
08-18-2006, 05:39 PM
Ok, so I just got my Blue Orb II today, and all I can say is HOLY CRAP THIS THING IS A MONSTER. Seriously, I knew it was going to be big, but it is really big. And it weighs a ton. A reveiwer on Newegg said "if someone threw this at you, you would be dead." Yes it is exaggeration, but throw it hard enough and you'll knock someone out.

Hopefully when I get the rest of my parts and can install it, it will give me some monster cooling to go with the monster size.

Indybird
08-18-2006, 07:28 PM
Ok, so I just got my Blue Orb II today, and all I can say is HOLY CRAP THIS THING IS A MONSTER. Seriously, I knew it was going to be big, but it is really big. And it weighs a ton. A reveiwer on Newegg said "if someone threw this at you, you would be dead." Yes it is exaggeration, but throw it hard enough and you'll knock someone out.

Hopefully when I get the rest of my parts and can install it, it will give me some monster cooling to go with the monster size.

I Just got mine also, and I was suprised also by how much it weighs... I forgot what metal it was made out of though. If its copper I could see why...

.Maleficus.
08-18-2006, 07:51 PM
The fins are aluminum, and the base is copper. But it's still really heavy. For it's size, I mean.

MitaPi
08-19-2006, 01:17 AM
So how bout some pictures :D I am actually thinking about getting it for my current PC when I switch it over to the X-Dreamer II case.

Indybird
08-19-2006, 01:36 AM
My camera's broke, I'll try and borrow my friends again to take the pictures if .Maleficus. doesn't beat me to it. :D

MitaPi
08-19-2006, 01:40 AM
lol its a race! I cant wait to see it....

Silenced_Coyote
08-19-2006, 04:00 AM
well, can't you find pictures on the internet? just go find a review site that has pictures of it.

MitaPi
08-19-2006, 04:47 AM
LOL wow.. you are so right its sad. I think I am going to go smack myself a few times for that one! lol

Custom
08-19-2006, 04:50 AM
I use a Akasa AK-960 for my Core 2 Duo E6400 it is amazing cooling I got my CPU running at 3.2GHz and it was still running fine with very little tempreture increase. I hope this helps. :)

.Maleficus.
08-19-2006, 09:22 AM
So MitaPi, do you still want pictures? I can't get any of it running, but I could get some of size comparisons and such.

Johnman6996
08-19-2006, 12:07 PM
Thsi is the best HSF for a socket 775:

http://www.arctic-cooling.com/cpu2.php?idx=79&disc=

The thing dropped the temps on a Pentium D 16 degrees CELCIUS under the stock cooler... and it isn’t even 25% as noisy as the stock coolers (.09 sones VS. 4.9 sones).


The only knock is: it's a little tall. It may not fit in some cases...

but...

isn't that what they made a drememl for?

MitaPi
08-19-2006, 03:05 PM
So MitaPi, do you still want pictures? I can't get any of it running, but I could get some of size comparisons and such.

Size comparisons would be great! I'm not sure if I have ever seen a 140mm heatsink/fan? And with such low profile! The question I have is this though. Does that 120mm fan built into the total unit size of 140mm heatsink affect the north bridge heatsink and/or GPU as well as the PSU and/or RAM placements?? I might have to go vertical and not horizontal with this computer system.

...or would that be horizontal and not vertical since the heat sink IS horizontal? Unless of course you consider the motherboard to be the "ground". Then of course I would have to go vertical. Hmmm... over examining again I am.

Edit:
HOLY COW... This heat sink weighs two pounds!!!??


Thsi is the best HSF for a socket 775:

http://www.arctic-cooling.com/cpu2.php?idx=79&disc=



Ah yes. I am familiar with that brand and model. I admire its function very much but what I see with these two eyes of mine does not please me. For some I suppose it would. As some would not judge by looks alone but in fact when seen, they would see craftsmanship and functionality. And to those individuals, that is a beautiful thing alone to behold.

Still ugly if you ask me though! :D

.Maleficus.
08-19-2006, 04:15 PM
Here are the pics.

First, the initial packaging.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l257/andypwnsall/DSC00009-1.jpg
Glamor shot.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l257/andypwnsall/DSC00007.jpg
Copper base.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l257/andypwnsall/DSC00006-1.jpg
Blue Orb against unfinished case it will be going in.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l257/andypwnsall/DSC00002-1.jpg
Blue Orb against standard 12.25" cold cathode.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l257/andypwnsall/DSC00003-1.jpg
This is the one that kills me. Blue Orb against old HP case.
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l257/andypwnsall/DSC00004-1.jpg

There you go! Enjoy!

MitaPi
08-19-2006, 05:00 PM
Very cool! That thing is HUGE! lol

I think I am going to try to place in my order today or maybe tomarrow. CANT WAIT!

Indybird
08-19-2006, 05:24 PM
Woah, did you order your's off of Newegg.com? Because mine came in a different package...

By the way mine just barely fit in my case! I had to file about 3mm off of the heatsinks next to my proc!

.Maleficus.
08-19-2006, 05:39 PM
I ordered mine off Xoxide. What did yours look like when it came?

And for me, I'm more worride about fitting it with my PSU. I'm thinking I might have to make a mount on the top of my case and bring the wires through the top.

Indybird
08-19-2006, 06:42 PM
It was in a big cardboard box that looked like yours except box version... :?

By the way mine missed my PSU by a half an inch in my NZXT Lexa.