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MitaPi
10-02-2006, 06:20 PM
Okay, I have a episode of a show I watch that is 170MB AVI. ...and then my friend has the SAME EXACT episode but at 40k RM.

So my question is...

How do I get my episode to be like his? Is there some sort of software I need to use to change the file type? Will that change the 170MB to 40k RM?http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h237/MitaPi/Compare.jpg

nil8
10-02-2006, 07:47 PM
His is probably just a web reference. It more than likely streams down from a server if the file is 40k.

MitaPi
10-02-2006, 09:26 PM
Grrr, Okay, well bummer. I was thinking about getting all of the episodes and making copies of them and putting them onto blank CD's.... I think... there is a 150 of them? So as you can see, that is alot of cd's. I was just hoping to minimize that without cutting up the episodes...

Hmm, what if I did a web reference thinger for all the episodes... and then put those on cd's... could I do that?

DaveW
10-02-2006, 09:42 PM
Yes, but if the links ever moved or were deleted, then you've lost them forever.

-Dave

MitaPi
10-02-2006, 10:05 PM
AH! BUGGER! lol

Well thats it... I give up. Friggen computers are driving me insane I swear :D

As soon as I can afford a new computer, I am thinking of making a video.

:?

Well, I am thinking THERMITE if you catch my drift.:eek: It will be a nice tribute to modders and computer lovers everywhere. You know, Something that screams "Sticking it to the man. Why? Because we can".

Ha, If I do, Maybe I'll give it over to TBCS exclusively? ;)

nil8
10-02-2006, 11:48 PM
Head over to doom9.org and do some research on how to re-encode your files to a smaller size. One of the best digital video sites on the net and the wealth of information there is astounding.

Beyond more compression or smaller frame size or (god forbid) less framerate, there's not much that can be done about size.

It really comes down to your dedication to whatever it is you want to burn.

Ever thought of a dvd burner instead? This would more or less negate your problem of how many discs are required. DVD burners are fairly cheap these days.

MitaPi
10-03-2006, 03:36 PM
I have a DVD burner. Just no DVD cd's. I have like 150 blanks though.. so I guess its not that big of a deal... lol I'll only need like 30 of them.

Thanks for the linkage btw.

Airbozo
10-03-2006, 04:37 PM
AH! BUGGER! lol

Well thats it... I give up. Friggen computers are driving me insane I swear :D

As soon as I can afford a new computer, I am thinking of making a video.

:?

Well, I am thinking THERMITE if you catch my drift.:eek: It will be a nice tribute to modders and computer lovers everywhere. You know, Something that screams "Sticking it to the man. Why? Because we can".

Ha, If I do, Maybe I'll give it over to TBCS exclusively? ;)


Back in the day when I worked at McDonnel Douglas in Long Beach, my co-workers and I made a video of us throwing a DEC VT101 off the top of a hangar (very tall hangar)and watching it disintegrate on impact. We took a lot of heat for this for 2 reasons:

1 - it made a huge mess and got glass and electronics all over the place (FOD). We had to spend the next 3 hours cleaning it up (and I mean spotless! no trace of anything including any plastic bits) We found parts at least a hundred feet away!

2 - we used an extremely expensive high speed camera to record the impact and only we were amused by it (ok some of the managers were amused they just couldn't admit it in public).

The video is still floating around although we got in some more trouble because in the high speed video you can see the old McDonnel Douglas logo and the DEC logo in the same frame and the lawyers got all steamed. I will contact one of my old friends and see if he can webitize it...

DaveW
10-03-2006, 05:12 PM
I will contact one of my old friends and see if he can webitize it...

Heh...that sounds good! YouTube anyone?

-Dave

CanaBalistic
10-03-2006, 09:40 PM
Diffrent codecs will change the size of video files aswell. By how much is beyond me.

nil8
10-04-2006, 12:51 AM
Video size is about compression(codec), framerate, frame size (640x480, etc).

Imagine moving pictures like a high speed camera. Each second is about 30 pictures. This amount is the perfect amount to fool the human eye into thinking that movement is happening. This is framerate.

You have a relative size of all the pictures, or the frame size.

Let's make it digital. You have a codec that can take those raw pictures (which are very large files, but also very high quality) and compress out the parts that the naked eye doesn't see or use. This is called a loss-based codec system.

On the old picture, every part of the picture that is black is digitally coded to be black. On a loss-based codec, the keystone(first photo) is the one that says this is black until the next keystone, thus keeping the images from having to re-reference the specific pixel in question. This is why dvd's can be compressed to 1 cd after going through a codec. Or the reason that raw audio can be compressed down to a 10 mb mp3 file.

Ok, real world example. Have you ever been watching a dvd or movie and had the movement correct but the colors all funky? That's a keystone that has become corrupted and is giving the wrong data to the media player you're using. That's the only viewable downside to a loss-based codec system. Keystone corruption basically destroys the interval until the next keystone.

I know you didn't ask for the lesson, but I figured someone would find it interesting. If anyone has questions, please ask.

MitaPi
10-04-2006, 04:51 PM
That was very interesting actually. Ha, now I can tell my friends why their are funky colors when we watch DVD's or something. :P

Okay, so... I've done a little bit of research and I pretty much dont get it. lol

Can you give me a quick step by step lesson to change my ?codec? so I have a smaller file but without losing quality or size? Is that possible without spending a bunch of money?