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Omnipotentclown
10-06-2006, 10:39 PM
Being strapped for cash as students tend to be I thought Id try out an idea before investing.

This project is based around pfSense and ipcop. It is going to be a portable firewall/switch for LAN parties and home use. The overall goal is portability, reliability and silence while combining a gamers case with something more ellegant if possible.

Hardware
AMD 754 3400+
Gigabyte Mobo
512 OCZ Value RAM
40gig IDE HDD
Low Profile Intel Gigabit Ethernet
5 Port Netgear Gigabit Switch
Possibly some WIFI

My plan is to use this case
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/11-127-076-02.JPG
and cut out a chunk of the top for a frosted plexi window. By frosted I mean sanded like on the HP Mega Res3 I believe.

On the underside 7-11" green coldcathode light tubes would be mounted. EDIT: Now that I think about it, leds placed in drilled out holes in the sides of the plexi would save space and be cheaper. Id take the housing off of the inverter boxs (or whatever they are called) and mount them next to the cathodes to make removing the panel easier. Excuse the quality MS Paint handywork...
http://i12.tinypic.com/4g8q5xx.jpg
I could also make a full window and find space for the inverters on second thought, but the partial window seems less stock to me.

I chose this case for its ugliness and price (~$35.00 shipped). The front bezel would be removed and a frosted plexi one would be put in its place. pfSense and ipcop dont need a CD-ROM or floppy drive once they are installed, so Im deciding between turning them into extra hdd space, control panels/switchs, just taking them out entirely for extra space and airflow.

On each end of the case would be a 80mm fan for cross airflow. 80 is only a guess. 90 or 92 would be better in my opinion but Ill have to see.

The 754 3400+ will be cooled with a Scythe Ninja. There will be no fan as there shouldnt be a need for one. I dont mind underclocking the processor if need be. 2400mhz is insane overkill as it is (400 is recommended, but why go buy something new when this is lying around?). The case is rather slim so I think that the Ninja will need to protrude through the top, probably through the plexi. I think a simple 1/4-1/2" gap around it will look ok, but suggestions on implementation please.

Next is the switch. It seems that taking it out of its protective shell is the most appropriate way to handle this. Once its out it will be mounted in the back of the case about the mobo I/O slot.
http://i12.tinypic.com/2j14s9z.jpg
My problem is how to mount it? Suspend it from the top panel, the back panel, the bottom or some combo???
Another problem is which model. The home version has the power plug in the back, whereas the pro version has the rj-45s in the front and the power in the back. My question is how to go about the powersource. Just connect it to the back with everything else, using the home model, or inside and somehow slice the wall plug into the powersupply (keeping in mind its 170W limitation)

Next comes the bottom. It is meant to be a horizontal pc, but some of its uses may require it to be verticle. So Im thinking that the bottom should be frost plexied to match the theme. Possibly with a sheet metal border to make it match the 'top'. Also to keep with the theme there could be thin cutouts along the sides for frosted plexi. That could make the fans look odd however.

Around every peice of plexi would be the green cathodes of course. They could either be switchable all together or by side.

Lastly is color scheme. Im a fan of black pcs for that sexy strealthy look. I also want the inside to be painted. A combo of flat and gloss black could look nice, but Im having trouble deciding on where to put them. Flat outside with gloss inside, visa versa? Both same? All flat/gloss and then opposite fan grills?

Any and all help is greatly appreciated.

Keep in mind this will be my first mod!

Omnipotentclown
10-06-2006, 11:04 PM
PS:
What thickness of plexi is recommended for the windows?
Also is plexi or lexan better for this type of application?

DaveW
10-07-2006, 03:06 PM
4 Cathodes is overkill-you can get away with 1, or 2 for even lighting. 4 would produce a glow that would be unpleasant at most, distracting at least.

-Dave

Omnipotentclown
10-10-2006, 11:41 PM
Here is a mock up of the idea.
(Google SketchUp is amazing!)

http://i10.tinypic.com/4ccc5y0.jpg
Front

http://i9.tinypic.com/47b0lj8.jpg
Right

http://i10.tinypic.com/47np56t.jpg
Back

http://i10.tinypic.com/2ey9vlz.jpg
Top

The plexi panel on the left is kinda messed up in SketchUp, lots of fragmentation but you get the idea.

simon275
10-11-2006, 05:52 AM
Nice I like the idea of having the heat sink sticking out. What sought of screen are you going to use in the front of it and what are all the switches for?

b4i7
10-11-2006, 07:46 AM
heh...that built in switch is like an idea that my next myxt mod is slightly built around.....

nzcubey
10-14-2006, 10:50 PM
looks pretty cool, that heatsink reminds me of the huge ass tower heatsinks in the dells, man those things are beasts

Omnipotentclown
10-15-2006, 09:55 PM
Actually i need help with a screen. I wouldnt mind a small color lcd on front. It would have to be a package deal, like screen, controller, whateverelse needed kinda thing. Touch would be amazing but from what ive seen that adds bout $100. Also there is a 14" lcd somewhere on Tigerdirect that I found. I was thinking of taking that out of its case and mounting it on the underside and then putting a sheet of plexi over that with some standoffs to raise it. Or box it in, not sure.

The switchs arent an exact number, but they are gonna all look the same. On for power, one for reset, then a slew for lights and fans. Yes i know power needs a momentary switch, but i can just flick it up and down once to turn it on.

Does it seem that the real 60mm fan, the left 80mm and the right 80mm fans will be enough airflow?

And as for the HDD i acquired a 80gig laptop drive, so ill just get that $10 laptop to ide connector ive seen around the web and use that. Save lots of space and heat.

Omnipotentclown
10-16-2006, 09:09 PM
Another thought i had was to instead of going for the all frosted, green illuminated plexi was to get a clear, black or frosted top, not sure on direct illumination. But on the sides have a black layer in back, with a clear layer on top of it. On the clear layer etch IPcop and then pfSense on the other. Only etch it backwards so the etched part touchs the black. Then light up the IPcop blue and pfSense red. Give it a stealth look when light are off, but a look that shows off its job when there on.

chedabob
10-17-2006, 10:02 AM
instead of puttin the hub over te i/o panel, put it over the pci slots. chop the back out, bondo it up, itll look tight.

or, forget the switch, get a bunch of pci network cards, and run that linux server distro (forgot its name) designed for routing.

DaveW
10-17-2006, 10:17 AM
Hey man, i might have to steal that idea for the pokin' out heatsink.

It would work really well in a mod i'm planning...i'll give you full credit dude ;)

Feedback: the plan looks good. Just watch the PSU's for those little cases, they're damn expensive.

-Dave

Omnipotentclown
10-17-2006, 04:05 PM
instead of puttin the hub over te i/o panel, put it over the pci slots. chop the back out, bondo it up, itll look tight.

or, forget the switch, get a bunch of pci network cards, and run that linux server distro (forgot its name) designed for routing.

If you could let me know what that distro is that would really help me out.

My only thought with the switch is that a 5 port one is like ~$45 whereas say four lowpro gigabit cards are $30 each. So if price was no object i would definatly go with the pci cards, especially the intel gigabit ones with dual ports for $150!

Another idea, how hard would it be to make my own low pro cards? Cut off the excess back rail and the bend and drill a hole for the screw?

Airbozo
10-17-2006, 04:31 PM
If you could let me know what that distro is that would really help me out.

My only thought with the switch is that a 5 port one is like ~$45 whereas say four lowpro gigabit cards are $30 each. So if price was no object i would definatly go with the pci cards, especially the intel gigabit ones with dual ports for $150!

Another idea, how hard would it be to make my own low pro cards? Cut off the excess back rail and the bend and drill a hole for the screw?

Try here:
http://www.skullbox.net/clarkconnect.php

Or here:
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4389397127.html

or here:
http://freshmeat.net/projects/zeroshell/

I have done the cut and bend method for making lo-profile plates. If you want it to look good use a vice and hammer.

Good luck, great idea!

Omnipotentclown
10-17-2006, 08:42 PM
im planning on running simultanious operating systems using VMware. Anyone have any experience with this kind of thing?

TheMovement4
10-17-2006, 09:21 PM
I used VMware for a little while. I use to run Windows 2000 Server and used it for my DNS, then I ran Linux Fedora Core 4 for my Web Server. It was a nice set up, but I got tired of loading Windows just to go to Linux, so I trans it to a HDD and now I just run Linux. So some advice, just use Linux, not both. VMware was alittle hard at times, like making sure to save your work! You dont know how many hours I spent redoing everything I did the previous night...

chedabob
10-18-2006, 03:26 AM
If you could let me know what that distro is that would really help me out.

My only thought with the switch is that a 5 port one is like ~$45 whereas say four lowpro gigabit cards are $30 each. So if price was no object i would definatly go with the pci cards, especially the intel gigabit ones with dual ports for $150!

Another idea, how hard would it be to make my own low pro cards? Cut off the excess back rail and the bend and drill a hole for the screw?

http://www.vyatta.com/index.php

thats the distro

how come you need gigabit? for most people, 10mbit is more than enough for lan gaming.

if you want to do 10/100, ive got a whole bunch of pci cards in the garage. if you've only got a few slots, you could whack a hub in aswell.

Omnipotentclown
10-18-2006, 11:58 AM
My only want for gigabit was for future proofing.

This case may also be used as a file server someday and since all the pcs in my house are already gigabit nics i felt why not.

Another option I thought about was getting a 16 port 10/100 switch with a gigabit uplink port. Lots better for LANing IMO.

Chedabob, Id be very interested in some free nics. I guess the onboard gigabit would be enough, just to connect to a switch or something in the future.

Plus with all the $$$s saved i could work on buying one of those $100 15" lcds over on tigerdirect if I can figure out how to implement it well enough.

chedabob
10-19-2006, 03:26 AM
My only want for gigabit was for future proofing.

This case may also be used as a file server someday and since all the pcs in my house are already gigabit nics i felt why not.

Another option I thought about was getting a 16 port 10/100 switch with a gigabit uplink port. Lots better for LANing IMO.

Chedabob, Id be very interested in some free nics. I guess the onboard gigabit would be enough, just to connect to a switch or something in the future.

Plus with all the $$$s saved i could work on buying one of those $100 15" lcds over on tigerdirect if I can figure out how to implement it well enough.

:P i cant do free stuff, but i can do them really cheap. $3 a nic, shipped. ill see how many ive got in the garage.

Omnipotentclown
11-13-2006, 01:33 AM
Went to purchase the case today on Newegg and its gone! If anyone could lend a hand in finding what make or model, or where i could buy one please let me know. Im very thankful for any assistance.


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Thanks

Zephik
11-13-2006, 02:19 AM
Well I looked through a few cases and couldn't find your's. Have you tried looking at other cases maybe? What's your price range, mobo size, etc?

You can also try tigerdirect and xoxide. They have a few of those kind of cases.

Good luck

-SF

Omnipotentclown
11-13-2006, 09:52 AM
I mostly liked that case cause it was going to cost me a whopping $30 shipped. I also liked the fact that it was almost entirely plain with no side or top premade vents. The smallest mobo I have is a microATX. Right now I need some RAM aswell as the case, so that puts my case budget at ~$50.

jdbnsn
11-13-2006, 02:31 PM
What type of RAM?

Zephik
11-13-2006, 03:20 PM
I found your product, it has been deactivated for some reason. Here is the info on it if you want to try and find it somewhere else...

Ever Case USA Inc.

Model #: E0229LP-S (Ever Case USA Inc.)
Item #: N82E16811127076 (Newegg)

Here are also some other choices that are *cheap*.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductCompare.asp?Category=9&N=2000090007+1054808292&Submit=ENE&Nty=1&SubCategory=7&CompareItemList=N82E16811108342%2CN82E16811190049% 2CN82E16811108344%2CN82E16811108048

You know, you could also try building it yourself. It doesn't look like that complex of a design... Then you can really personalize it.

-SF