need some help

[Gaius Marius]

with my new comp case. I put everything together internally and it all seems to work. Mobo powers up, cd drives but im having trouble connecting the power switch on the tower to the mobo. I cant seem to find the right connection. I have the specs on the pin layout and when i connect the power sw to the mobo nothing. the monitor has that error screen, check connections etc. the monitor works.

[ajmilton]

if the mobo powers up and the cd drives work, then i'd guess the problem isn't the power switch
check that the video card is properly seated. if it's a newer PCIE card, it might require a separate power connector too. i'd ask if you hear a POST beep, but that's disabled so often these days.

[gaz_the_chav]

Is there any beeps at all or does it not start up at all??

-gaz

[Gaius Marius]

no beeps..its a PIII mobo.

[Gaius Marius]

i have an ati radeon 9200 card agp not pci. however the drivers arent installed on it..should i remove the card? that overrides the integrated video card right?

[ajmilton]

meh, the video card shouldn't be conflicting, but i'd pull it and see if this works with the onboard. the drivers shouldn't be a problem - if nothing else windows just says "hey its a generic card" and operates at like ... 600x400 until you get the right drivers. ugly but functional :p

i'm mildly confused though, does the motherboard receive power or no? you say the cd drive works...i've never known one to open unless you've got power on the mobo. is the power switch plugged in or not? :p

[Gaius Marius]

the mobo powers up. I see the light on and the cdrw opens and powers up. the video card had no effect either...hmmm...

2.8.3.3.1 Reset Switch Connector
Pins 5 and 7 can be connected to a momentary SPST type switch that is normally open. When the
switch is closed, the D815EEA2 and D815EPEA2 boards reset and run the POST.
2.8.3.3.2 Hard Drive Activity LED Connector
Pins 1 and 3 can be connected to an LED to provide a visual indicator that data is being read from
or written to a hard drive. For the LED to function properly, an IDE drive must be connected to the
onboard IDE interface. The LED will also show activity for devices connected to the SCSI hard
drive activity LED connector.
For information about Refer to
The SCSI hard drive activity LED connector Section 2.8.3.2, page 79

2.8.3.3.3 Power/Sleep/Message Waiting LED Connector
Pins 2 and 4 can be connected to a single-colored or dual-colored LED. Table 49 shows the
possible states for a single-colored LED. Table 50 shows the possible states for a dual-colored
LED.
Table 49. States for a Single-Colored Power LED
LED State Description
Off Power off/sleeping
Steady Green Running
Blinking Green Running/message waiting
Table 50. States for a Dual-Colored Power LED
LED State Description
Off Power off
Steady Green Running
Blinking Green Running/message waiting
Steady Yellow Sleeping
Blinking Yellow Sleeping/message waiting
✏ NOTE
To use the message waiting function, ACPI must be enabled in the operating system and a messagecapturing
application must be invoked.
2.8.3.3.4 Power Switch Connector
Pins 6 and 8 can be connected to a front panel momentary-contact power switch. The switch must
pull the SW_ON# pin to ground for at least 50 ms to signal the power supply to switch on or off.
(The time requirement is due to internal debounce circuitry on the D815EEA2 and D815EPEA2
boards.) At least two seconds must pass before the power supply will recognize another on/off
signal.

from the manual

[Gaius Marius]

i have a blue and white wires for the psw (labeled power sw) and i connect them to 6 and 8 (assuming white is ground and p 8 is as well)

[ajmilton]

well i'm mildly stumped. if the CD drive opens (and case fans turn on), i really don't believe your problem is the power switch. you're sure the monitor isn't fried?

[Gaius Marius]

pretty sure. I sued it the other day..I can check

[Gaius Marius]

did i fry the mobo? I also dont understand why the mobo powers up when i plug in the cord to the ps if the power switch in the front isnt connected...

[YoungBlood]

I know where the problem is.... Do you have the original Powerswitch from you old case... if so take it out and put it in your new case... try to power it now... Should work... i did the same wit my case.. worked first time(hopefully or im gna look like an idiot)

[Gaius Marius]

well this is a whole new mobo and new case. new PC minus the periphials

[YoungBlood]

o...
Well try using the old mobo... Or try a spare monitor(if u have 1) or run next door and ask to borrow their monitor!

[Gaius Marius]

cant use old Mobo wont support my processor. monitor works too checked it against my work PC which is a P4

[Gaius Marius]

cant figure out what i did wrong if anything. I hear the HDDs running, cdrw works, mobo powers up but nothing on the screen. just checked the monitor, works fine...im a bit frustrated

[Gaius Marius]

checked aganst my LCD monitor. that is not the problem

[Razors Edge]

remove the video card, Start off from the motherboard video.

If that don't work ur systems dead.

[Gaius Marius]

so my system is dead and this is a brand new mobo

[Gaius Marius]

I might have figured out the problem but I need some help. The mobo might not support the processor speed. When i did the research i found it did and i couldnt find support info for the universal board for my mobo, but this morning i used the disk that came with my mobo and it doesnt support this processor. i have no way to double check since i dont have another processor to check it against the mobo. My options are downgrade to a 1.0G processor or upgrade again to a mobo that supports this 1.13G processor. What do you guys think is the situation. Is this a probable cause with the mobo/processor speed?

[DaveW]

It doesn't seem likely that a new motherboard wouldn't support a speed of 1.13GHz. It's most likely something else.

-Dave

[YoungBlood]

Post a link to each of your items... We will check :)

[ajmilton]

yeah, this all goes a lot easier if you tell us what the hardware is :P

dave, i'm not sure about the age of any of the gear, if it's a "new" processor that's 1.13 ghz...

edit:

no beeps..its a PIII mobo.

it ain't new. :P

[TheMovement4]

wait wait wait, are you saying just the video output isnt showing? I was in a little pickle like this once.

Ok, not saying this could be the problem, but hey, its worth a try.

When I upgraded to a new mobo(I know you upgraded a new mobo AND case but..) I left the little pins that connect to the mobo tray, giving it that rise up so its not touching the tray direct. But what happen was my new mobo didnt need one of those little pins. But I left it on not thinking about it. Guess what.. it was right under the video card. so when I went to go screw in the mobo that pin was touching the mobo, so it was touching some gizmo or something. So it was grounding my mobo or even worst frying it. I found out quick before it did any damage.

Just remove your mobo from your case and see if you have the right amount of pins, no more, no less.

Sorry I dont know the name of those things, there always a golden color.

[ajmilton]

standoffs, i believe, is the word you're looking for.

edit: yay google, clicky (http://www.pctechguide.com/tutorials/MBoard_Fit.htm)

[DaveW]

dave, i'm not sure about the age of any of the gear, if it's a "new" processor that's 1.13 ghz...


so my system is dead and this is a brand new mobo

Missed the part about the Pentium 3. I was assuming it was a Socket A, as you can still buy a type of Socket A mobo if i'm correct.



Sorry I dont know the name of those things, there always a golden color.

I think they're just called spacers.

-Dave

[Gaius Marius]

the mobo is a D815eea2U. the support docs for it support only up to a P3 1.0G and celeron 800M. So its very possible the bios doesnt recognize that speed hence it doesnt come on.. Ive had seen that problem in the past. Its a very simple process since ive built PCs before but much older early PIII's. It wasnt the switch, or any other component. and yes those are the standoffs. but that shouldnt cause a problem if you have the correct amount.

Yeah its not state of the art gear and unfortunately i currently cant afford the new P4 stuff.

what i currently have is an offbrand CD burner, 3.5floppy, samsung 40G HDD samsung 7G HDD, ati Radeon 9200 agp, 256Mb sdram 168 pin pc 100M and thats pretty much it. nothing fancy nothing conflicting as far as i can tell. every thing powered up, HDD, mobo, cdburner etc. nothing on the monitor though (that error message that the monitor is working check connections ect) I checked the monitor to my work PC (P4) and the monitor to the newly built PIII (LCD monitor) old monitor worked on the P4 and the LCD didnt work on the PIII..oh yeah Powersupply is 200W ATX 20 pin standard..nothing fancy

[ajmilton]

hm ok, looking through this stuff, your problem >might< be a lack of power. i haven't worked with p3's in a damn long time, but 2 hd's, a decently new agp card (the 9200 is newish, isn't it?), and such, on a 200W ps might >just< be the problem. there may just not be enough pull to run the video card after everything else. maybe unplug everything except your system HD and see if you at least get video signal

[TheMovement4]

standoffs, i believe, is the word you're looking for.

edit: yay google, clicky (http://www.pctechguide.com/tutorials/MBoard_Fit.htm)

Damn, yeah thats it.

[Gaius Marius]

video card and HDD's are no longer hooked up...and it was still an issue

[Razors Edge]

Man just trash it. Even if it did work, You wont get very far on 1.13 ghz with a P3. Go for a brand new Socket A, REALLY CHEAP. You can find a AMD socket A proc. for like 2o-50 bucks and the mobo is around 30-50 bucks.

[Gaius Marius]

How far do i really need to go? It is just for the time being. By next year I should have the money for a P4 to build

[Gaius Marius]

ok the post beeps indicate a video error. this is a new mobo that definitely supports my processor. Everything again still powers up and indicates there is nothing wrong except what I mentioned.

[Gaius Marius]

Got it working kinda...AGP card wasnt fully seated :| ...now im getting HDD error (it starts up windows then a blue error screen comes up)

[Redundant]

Unplug and replug your harddrive connection and power cable to be sure they're seated right.

That error screen is called the Blue Screen of Death (BSOD)