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nil8

10-20-2006, 07:24 AM

Full Metal Jacket
Boondock Saints
Dr. Strangelove
Taxi Driver
Way of the Gun
SLC Punk
Kill Bill 1 & 2
A River Runs Through It
Bringing Out the Dead
Leaving Las Vegas
The Salton Sea
28 Days Later
Audition
The Exorcist
Natural Born Killers
Bubba Ho-Tep
The Last Castle
The Breakfast Club
The Quiet American
Pitch Black
Heat
Fight Club
Dead Poets Society
Outside Providence
White Squall
Ninth Gate
O Brother Where Art Thou
Gettysburg
Goodfellas
12 Monkeys
Clerks
Leon The Professional
Shawshank Redemption

There's a couple hundred. That's a list after a couple of minutes of thinking about it. I normally watch 1 or 2 movies a week. When I am sick or lazy that number can go from 3 to 20. I love film.

.Maleficus.

10-20-2006, 07:51 AM

Eurotrip One of the funniest movies I've ever seen.
Band of Brothers Though not a movie but mini-series, it is still some great stuff.

And I'm spent.

Airbozo

10-20-2006, 11:07 AM

I like some of the ones here (nil8 you have lots of favorites...).

V for Vendetta was good, but I am glad I rented it on dvd so I could keep going back to re-watch parts of it.

12 monkeys is a great flick (turn it up to hear some interesting background chatter)

My all time favs:

Pink Floyd The Wall
Heavy Metal
Fakk2
Up in Smoke

public_eyesore

10-20-2006, 11:39 AM

Dog Town and the Z-Boys

Zephik

10-20-2006, 02:24 PM

Lol okay, well my friend just told me to post this because it is one of her favorite movies.

DRAGON BALL Z!

:dead:

Lord of the rings
Gone with the wind
To Kill A Mocking Bird (Thats a good one)
Moulin Rouge
INDIANA JONES! (lol)
Million Dollar Baby
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
Tombstone!
The God Father (Crimsons favorite? lol)

-SF

Slug Toy

10-20-2006, 03:16 PM

ill agree with snowfire... gattaca and v for vendetta were damn good movies. maybe not the most action packed or anything... but good thinking movies and very satisfying. kind of sad too.

and nil8... heat!!! ya man. i think that might be the best one where robert deniro and al pacino were together (i think there were others, but cant remember them).

how about miami vice? that was some good action stuff. very fast paced. the 50 cal sniper rifles were awesome... but im not saying any more in case anyone hasnt seen it yet. actually, the sound in general was awesome. lots of bass, and pretty realistic sound. good soundtrack too.

and serenity? again, good sound. when i saw it in the theatre, you could actually hear the other showing of it through the walls. they also actually remembered that in space, you dont hear anything. also some of the best computer graphics work ive seen.

im hoping the halo movie will be good when it comes out. i know my friends are going to drag me to a midnight showing... on the opening night... with all the nerds dressed up in costumes.

Zephik

10-20-2006, 03:19 PM

What did you just say??

A halo movie???

WHAT!? Why was I not informed of this!

I need to be shot. like a horse... or possibly a crying baby. One of the two for sure.

lol any linkage slug-o?

-SF

ajmilton

10-20-2006, 03:34 PM

apparently y'all have missed the news today: the production studios have backed out because they wanted to pay peter jackson and the halo creators less money.
:P

Zephik

10-20-2006, 03:44 PM

Why dont they just do like they did final fantasy? Those movies were awesome.

Or are they?

-SF

silverdemon

10-20-2006, 07:28 PM

If you're talking about movie from computer games, I have another one:

DOOM

it really is one 'great' movie...
If you liked the game, then it's a must:p

nil8

10-20-2006, 08:43 PM

doom delivered what it promised.

Heat is the only film with both Al Pacino and Robert DeNiro. That's one reason it's up there. The acting is top notch. The other reason is the scene where Val Kilmer has a scoped g3 sniping a dualie truck while Tom Sizemore blasts it apart with a Bellini. That's a sweet, sweet scene.

Razors Edge

10-20-2006, 09:01 PM

OK, I'll start the Start of the best movies.

+The Fast and The Furious
+2 Fast 2 Furious
+++++The Fast and The Furious: Tokyo Drift++++++++
+Oceans Eleven
+Oceans Twelve

And thats it for me. I don't venture too far...... just a Car Fanatic......

Zephik

10-21-2006, 12:55 PM

I think the only reason why I liked Oceans Twelve was because I loved Oceans Eleven. GREAT MOVIE. It makes you feel smart and cool... even though your not lol.

Has anyone seen "What the bleep do we know?"? What did you think of it?

-SF

Slug Toy

10-21-2006, 04:36 PM

Zephik

10-21-2006, 04:45 PM

ya i saw that bleep show. downloaded it a while ago. i can understand why some people would find it completely whacked out. it made perfect sense to me though. i could have just sat there listening to those quantum physics guys ramble on for days. its those kind of fringe ideas that really appeal to me.

My thoughts exactly. I never took a physics or quantum physics class but it didnt come off as what on earth are you talking about? *drool*

The only person I didnt like was that blonde (swedish?) lady. I dont know why... but something just really rubbed be the wrong way about her.

I like the old bald energetic guy though. He was entertaining lol.

Didnt they say something like.. our own personal reality exist only because we believe it to or something like that? It was something that was really out there feeling but I cant remember it and I long past lost that video.

-SF

nil8

10-21-2006, 07:20 PM

What the bleep do we know takes some ideas in science that aren't entirely founded/researched and tries to pass them off as fact.

Other parts delve directly into psudoscience. The 'water crystal' project is the biggest example I can think of. They didn't even look at other possibilities for that result. They got a result and took that as their answer was correct. Classic psudoscience.

I'm a skeptic before anything else and this movie plays to human emotion instead of really explaining anything. It's a way for people to accept something without verification and to brand it science. This is the same ballpark as Intelligent Design.

Timothy Leary said it best, "Think for yourself, question authority".

As for movies, I watched Glory last night. Fantastic film.

Slug Toy

10-21-2006, 10:00 PM

oh, the name glory just reminded me of another. kingdom of heaven. i really liked that one. my favourite part is when baleon ask salahudin... sala... the king of the muslims... anyways my favourite part is when baleon asks him what jerusalem is worth and he says "nothing" and walks a couple steps, turns back and says "everything". i think that sums up religious conflicts right there.

id also agree that "what the bleep do we know?" isnt quite all believable. its very interesting, but not completely legit. i think theres two things that really stick with me from that movie now that i think a little harder. one is the idea that if you are not "observing" your surroundings, its kind of like a sea of probability where you can guess where objects would be, but arent 100% sure about it.... kind of like if you turn your back to the computer screen, you arent sure of its exact position anymore, but you can guess. every time i start thinking about it... i imagine the scene behind me where people and cars and trees are kind of floating around in their general position in slow motion. its makes for some awesome stories anyways...

the other thing that sticks with me is the fact that the movie DOES encourage you to think about things differently. i mean... its been admitted that quantum physics is sort of an educated guess. especially energy levels and such... you just kind of take it on faith and do the math based on it. it could be wrong. everything could be wrong. only problem is that i like to think its definitely wrong, and i like to explain things my way... and there arent many people who can accept the fact that the concepts that define reality may be garbage. maybe they dont like the idea of a 19 year old being potentially just as right as einstein or rutherford... or anyone.

purdy

10-22-2006, 01:32 AM

I gotta say for me it would be:

V for Vendetta
The Shawshank Redemption
Sin City
The Motorcycle Diaries
LOTR Trilogy
Star Wars
Snakes On A Plane
and a LOT more.......... but I'm really tired and hurting right now so whatever.

Zephik

10-22-2006, 05:06 AM

Snakes on a Plane....

I never saw that.

Star rating?

one is the idea that if you are not "observing" your surroundings, its kind of like a sea of probability where you can guess where objects would be, but arent 100% sure about it.... kind of like if you turn your back to the computer screen, you arent sure of its exact position anymore, but you can guess. every time i start thinking about it... i imagine the scene behind me where people and cars and trees are kind of floating around in their general position in slow motion. its makes for some awesome stories anyways...

I think thats what I was trying to remember.

I think one part I didnt really get was the native dude not being able to see the boat because he has never seen it before. I see things I have never seen before everyday?

-SF

nil8

10-22-2006, 09:53 AM

Snakes on a Plane....

I never saw that.

Star rating?

I think thats what I was trying to remember.

I think one part I didnt really get was the native dude not being able to see the boat because he has never seen it before. I see things I have never seen before everyday?

-SF

Snakes on a Plane says it all. It's Samuel Jackson killing a bunch of pissed off snakes on a plane. It's an original concept that is bound for cult status. It's a decent action movie and worth a rental, not a movie ticket. I say 3/5.

As for the part you're refencing, mentally we aren't equipped to handle complicated ideas we've never seen before. The way we do it is to model, or construct, it down into something much simpler. Our brains are amazingly good at typecasting objects and amazingly bad at understanding all the complicated actions of those objects. The easiest example I can give is a TV. We all have seen a TV, yet very few of us know how they function and even fewer fully understand the involved mechanics of television. So we simplify it by calling it TV and leaving it to someone else to manufacture, understand, and repair them.
The idea here is that there is a collective unconcious that exists between all humans and that we just don't understand it yet because of it's complexity. This idea evolved from Jung's theories on the spiritual aspect of humanity and some type of commonality we all shared. It has been picked up and heavily endorsed by the counterculture movement of the 60's and is now a large aspect of most spiritual movements.

Yea, this is what I do with my spare time and I'm in my 20s. You know I don't have a girlfriend or get out much.

Zephik

10-22-2006, 10:11 AM

Yea, this is what I do with my spare time and I'm in my 20s. You know I don't have a girlfriend or get out much.

Well at least you are not the american example. Cheers for being dumb and over wieght.

Quick questin nil8. Do you like or dislike the media? Why do I have a feeling I am going to get either no answer or a complicated one? lol

-SF

nil8

10-22-2006, 01:33 PM

I think the media needs to drop the scare tactic, suggestive bs and report news. There's no reason for 24 hour stations. The news of a day can be summed up in less than an hour if you present it properly and don't do a lot of commentary.
I've always been a fan of collecting information. I've never been a fan of tricking people into thinking that they must have that information to survive.

The media isn't good or bad. It's both and I would like to see the positive aspects more than I currently do. More real journalism and less filler. Tell me something that matters, when, and why it happened. Let me make up my mind beyond that. Our media doesn't require critical thinking.

Realistically, I'm used to be the guy that would try to scare you away. Now I'm the guy that tries to educate people on subjects most people find disturbing, shocking, or outright disgusting. Things that people don't want to investigate themselves. Moral fiber is an alien concept to me. I believe heavily in deconstruction of self for the purpose of understanding one's primal needs and fulfilling them along with the higher level desires we place in ourselves to get us where we think we want to be. That scares people. I've been spit on by people of faith before because I refuse to back down or lighten up on the hypocrisy that I find.
I look normal, and I can act normal, but I can also explain and show you various dredges in the human psyche or sexual deviances. I find it interesting to understand these to better understand the layers and protections we put over these devices so we don't have to use them.

It's the reason that when normal people have to kill another human for some reason it really shakes up their world. They're stripping away years of societal and personal programming in an instant and have to learn to live with their decision. That much deprogramming that fast causes some people to fall apart and some to understand what it is to switch into a survival mindset, to tap into the part of ourselves we hate to admit exists, and move on in their lives.

That's why I love film. Movies allow for aspects of ourselves to be played out by a cast in a hermetically sealed world. The reason we watch film is to see a little bit of ourselves in characters. Sometimes that's highly emotional, sometimes destructive, sometimes funny, but it's always a mirror of some aspect of human experience. If it wasn't, no one would be interested in exploration of it. That's my definition of art and I hold it in high regard.

I'm also overweight. It's one of the reasons I eat healthy now.

I hope this answers your question. That was rather long.

Slug Toy

10-22-2006, 02:50 PM

i would say that the media is bad in varying degrees, depending on where we're talking about. i think it was during the summer... a lot of american news agencies were doing all these reports about avian flu. it literally had people scared ****less, and it was based on total crap too. they blew it completely out of proportion. i watched one of them.... i laughed, i got confused, i yelled at the tv, then i shut it off because it ceased to make any sense as far as im concerned. there were no facts in those broadcasts... just impending doom and confusion.

and then you see all the news about celebrities and their personal lives/issues. i really coudlnt give a damn about that stuff. i dont need to know that someone just had a baby and doesnt want its picture taken... i NEED to know what the government is doing to screw me over today.

granted, you do get reports about medical breakthroughs and all that... but its few and far between. i really dont watch the news anymore because of all this. i just hear about it a few days later in conversation... and thats good enough.

hey, you sound a lot like me nil8. i dont back down from many arguments either... and i eventually win too. and its for quite the same reasons. you should see when the jehova's witnesses come around. i invite them in and then start contradicting what they say... and they eventually throw themselves out. its fun. they dont come around anymore. the key is that i dont take kindly to being told what to do, think, say, learn, eat, bla bla bla. thats a double edged sword, but im hoping it gets me somewhere. the biggest drawback is bad grades in english class because i think what i want. another drawback is actual fights over some arguments. i work out and weight train though, and im fast, so i can handle myself just fine.

now, heres another movie. flags of our fathers. i got dragged out to see that on friday. it actually wasnt bad, but wow was it graphic. the freakiest part was where some japanese guys were committing suicide with grenades. they show the aftermath too. nasty stuff. its rated R for a good reason.

Zephik

10-22-2006, 04:46 PM

Those are some of the best answers I have ever had! I can relate to you both to a certain degree but not fully. Your both in a whole other league than I am.

That movie sounds intersting. Here is another question!

Why do some people like seeing other humans mangled, disformed, dismembered, etc? Such as that website that we should all know by now. I can't decide whether I think it is disgusting or what. But when the people I know TALK about it... I personaly feel sick.

-SF

Razors Edge

10-22-2006, 05:16 PM

Who here has senn The Fast and The Furious Tokyo Drift??

CanaBalistic

10-22-2006, 05:34 PM

Im going to disregard the lectures above simply because it would take to long to reply to all the points that were made. Insted, i'll post some choice selections from my movie library,

In no peticular order:

Saw
Changing Lanes
Duces Wild
Black hawk Down
Iron Monkey
Dawn of the dead
The day after tomorrow
ghosts of mars
doom
Atificial intelligence
white chicks
dodge ball
The fast and the furious
freddy got fingered
half baked
bandits
the island
reservoir dogs
the talented mr ripley
the new guy
independance day
the time machine
armageddon
bruce allmighty
scary movie 4
the chronicals of riddick
maximum overdrive
assault on precinct 13
the grudge
gladiator
basic
aireheads
white noise
bulletproof monk
torque
hostle
the saint
thescore
contact
eraser
freddy vs jason
dont say a word
unleashed
ong-bak
to live and die in la
escape from new york
black ball
evolution
city of ghosts
mr & mrs smith
fight club
anchor man
heist
foolproof
lord of war
national treasure
the 6th day
formula 51
land of the dead
the hitchhikers guide to the universe
manic
gone in 60 seconds
the constant gardener
stuck on you
the seige
jonny mnemonic
the italian job
suspect zero
slackers
corky romano
the aviator
catch me if you can

Thoes are the best movies from half of my collection. If i get some more time ill post the rest.

tybrenis

10-22-2006, 05:59 PM

Snakes on a motherf%^&ing plane was motherf*&$ing awesome!

Man, that s^&t was motherf&$*in' insane!

That was by far the funniest movie I have ever seen. It's some pretty hilarious stuff.

Some great links showcasing the highlights of the film:

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=snakes+on+a+plane+guy+&search=Search

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y-EnfhCs77w

Slug Toy

10-22-2006, 07:36 PM

oh i forgot about the constant gardener. that was good. sad but good. even sadder is the fact that the events in that movie are probably... almost definitely true. maybe not the shooting of diplomats, but the testing of drugs... i can believe that.

how about fear and loathing in las vegas. thats a messed up movie. thats all i can say.

Why do some people like seeing other humans mangled, disformed, dismembered, etc?

a) they're desensitized

b) they're sick

c) they "enjoy" the realism and shock if it

i dont know whats wrong with people... wanting to see that sort of **** just makes me sick. the people that want to see it make me sick too.

i think it was a couple years ago now... that guy that got his throat slit in iraq was it? it was all over the internet, and everyone knew about it within a day or two. everyone was talking about it. some people were actually laughing about it. yes... LAUGHING. i REALLY didnt like that. i got stuck in a line up in the hall (i was in high school at the time) and i had the misfortune of being in front of two guys that were talking about it. i still remember that conversation, and the ensuing chaos. one of them said "the part where they cut his throat, and he was trying to scream..." and thats all he got to say because i turned around and proceeded to **** him up. i then told everyone who happened to be there that if i ever heard any of them saying anything like that... id repeat what they just saw.

i may not think too much of people in general, but ive got the... morality to not take pleasure in watching a person die.

DaveW

10-22-2006, 07:40 PM

You might be a nut Slug, but at least ya got morals ;)

-Dave

Zephik

10-22-2006, 07:42 PM

Well I dont think its always a case of "bad morals" or something like that. One of the most intelligent and respectable people I know who is also a "man of god" likes it. To what point or purpose I have no idea? I'm thinking there is a different reason other than they are just effed up. Thats why I asked. Only few of the people I know who likes it are not your "normal" people.

Well if it is anything.. I suppose it would be Option C you listed.

-SF

DaveW

10-22-2006, 07:47 PM

If you're talking about movie from computer games, I have another one:

DOOM

it really is one 'great' movie...
If you liked the game, then it's a must

Just flicked back a lil, saw this:

What the hell is wrong with you boy?

That was one of the worst gawdam films I've ever seen. Now, the only reason i haven't participated in this thread is because I'm a massive cinema fan. I'll go on for hours.

I've seen a lot of good movies, and lot of bad movies.

Doom was the second worst movie i think I've ever seen, after that god-awful sequel to Tomb Raider. Completely devoid of plot, originality, good acting, excitement, empathy...it was an awful, awful, movie. the only reason it beat tomb raider was that 5 minute 1st person sequence which was marginally cooler than everything else-yet at the same time, so horribly, horribly, bland.

Hollywood, LEARN. You cannot drop the rock in and make a good movie!

Now, Takeshi Kitano (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takeshi_Kitano), on the other hand...

-Dave

Zephik

10-22-2006, 07:53 PM

Just flicked back a lil, saw this:

What the hell is wrong with you boy?

That was one of the worst gawdam films I've ever seen. Now, the only reason i haven't participated in this thread is because I'm a massive cinema fan. I'll go on for hours.

I've seen a lot of good movies, and lot of bad movies.

Doom was the second worst movie i think I've ever seen, after that god-awful sequel to Tomb Raider. Completely devoid of plot, originality, good acting, excitement, empathy...it was an awful, awful, movie. the only reason it beat tomb raider was that 5 minute 1st person sequence which was marginally cooler than everything else-yet at the same time, so horribly, horribly, bland.

Hollywood, LEARN. You cannot drop the rock in and make a good movie!

Now, Takeshi Kitano (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takeshi_Kitano), on the other hand...

-Dave

-Nods in complete agreement-

-SF

nil8

10-23-2006, 12:21 AM

Doom delivered mindless space zombie action. Don't expect more from a movie like that. Good plot or character development doesn't exist in action movies. When it does, they become classics and are watched for years. Big difference between terminator 2 and rambo 2. Why? Terminator 2 does a much better job of pulling you into the story and is less cheesed*ck than rambo 2.

Oh, and watch rambo 3. You might get a huge laugh out of the end like I did. It's funny and I won't spoil it.

As for the philosophy, I think we need a different thread. I don't want to hijack the movie thread.

As for the faces of death stuff it's because we aren't connected to it anymore. The only death people see anymore happens either on screen or to a family member. It used to be that to eat you would have to be around death. You raised your livestock, killed it, prepared it, and ate it. It's a disconnect that modern technology allows for the benefit of the people. Processing plants can use almost every aspect of an animal, and home butchers can't come close to that effiency. You don't think about the creature that died to make your hamburgers, roast beef, pork chops, etc etc because you didn't know it and it didn't happen around you.
It's the same reason that too many members of society can't put down their own pets. I think that taking it to the vet is another way to avoid facing the inevitable. Watching real gore reconnects that urge to cope with the thing that will get all of us. The thing some people spend their lives fighting against.

If you have a pet, do it the respect of killing it yourself. You're its master and you must be able to accept the responibility of taking its life when and if the time is right. I HATE having to kill other people's pets because they can't. I've done it too many times and it never gets easier.

As for people killing other people, it's been happening forever, now we can just capture someone's last moments on a camera for eternity.
If you do have a piqued interest in this subject I will warn you of one thing, it will deconstruct part of your ideals of the value of human life and once you watch certain things they never ever leave you.

On a lighter note, who went to see Jackass 2?

simon275

10-23-2006, 01:19 AM

As for people killing other people, it's been happening forever, now we can just capture someone's last moments on a camera for eternity.
If you do have a piqued interest in this subject I will warn you of one thing, it will deconstruct part of your ideals of the value of human life and once you watch certain things they never ever leave you.

The last bit sounded like my english teacher. I would have to agree. I have two sets of favorite movies one set as they are great deep films. And the other set as I dont have to use my brain and they are mindless intertainment. E.g. Rambo series like you said. The first one is the best.

Jackass is ok I saw the first one but it doesn't really do it for me.

silverdemon

10-23-2006, 03:44 AM

the only reason it beat tomb raider was that 5 minute 1st person sequence which was marginally cooler than everything else-yet at the same time, so horribly, horribly, bland.

yeah, you're SO right about that. That piece of the movie was the best of the whole thing, really liked that part.
And you're also right about the rest of the movie. But at one point I thought it was such a bad movie that it was good again.

Slug Toy

10-23-2006, 04:55 AM

As for the faces of death stuff it's because we aren't connected to it anymore.

you know, id have to say the exact opposite. i say its an excessive connection to death these days. the inability to understand it... ill agree with that. i figure the misunderstanding comes from the movies... all those death scenes... it hardly ever happens like that. you really have to experience death second hand to appreciate the impact. note that i said second hand... first hand would imply that you are doing the dying... and i highly doubt youd learn to appreciate that.

ive had to deal with death as well. it was a sort of wrong place, wrong time thing. i had a front row seat to watch a cat get hit by a car. i also had the "priviledge" if you could call it that, to have to comfort it as it died. the look in its eyes and the way it was pawing me with a sort of frantic helplessness... another couple things ill never forget. not the way to go. its caused me to take up a completely different view on killing animals and/or people. ill never do it. ive even stopped fishing although it was catch and release. ive just decided not even to harm them. i only make exceptions for harming people... people do bad things, animals dont.

people instantly ask if im a vegetarian, or they go on the attack and ridicule me for eating meat if im against killing animals and such. thats one argument that i never win because i just walk away. they dont understand, and its not worth making my point. i take a small amount of comfort in the fact that cows and chickens and the lot will be butchered no matter what, and if i dont eat it someone else will or itll go to waste.

great, now i have to go cry myself to sleep. i cant even finish the rest of what i had to say.