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Indybird
10-30-2006, 11:08 PM
I was wondering what you guys think is going to come next with computers...

I think:
Video: AGP-Express & Dual/Quad Card Technology
Processor: Quad-Core (Duh)
Memory: DDR3 (Duh)
HDDs: Solid-State SATA drives
Max PSU: 1200W
Gaming LCD Screen Size: 40"

xdxforever
10-31-2006, 12:30 AM
My bet is on dedicated task-specific cores on one die, like 3 normal cores, one FPU specialized core.

Indybird
10-31-2006, 12:35 AM
I also think we're going to go back to a single card-dual (or quad) core graphics.

simon275
10-31-2006, 12:51 AM
Yeah different processors for different things

Physics
Sound
CPU - Quad Core
Graphics

Also as the price of flash memory drops HDD will be just be flash memory based. Also more intergration of wirless into desktops along with wirless modems. To get wirless broadband over 3g networks.

No optical dirves maybe as every one buys games online and downloads them.

GT40_GearHead
10-31-2006, 01:57 AM
Video: AGP-Express & Dual/Quad Card Technology

that is PCI-e, agp aint gonna live very much

as for dual card, i think that would be caled SLI, and quad card should be quad SLI

PSU 1200W that would mean a step back, i like/hope not to need a 1kW psu

d_stilgar
10-31-2006, 02:18 AM
I'm thinking optical computing. No more transistors on and off creating heat. Just the on/off of lasers. Multiple cores on video cards. Maybe eight core CPUs with dedicated cores for different things, like one or two for GPU and what not, one for physics, the rest for just regular CPU stuff. Why create mobo heat going from place to place? Just stick everything together.

simon275
10-31-2006, 02:31 AM
I Still think optical computing in the home PC is a long way off yet. We may se optical computers deployed to replace cray supercomputers. Who knows only time will tell :think:

samurai_crip
10-31-2006, 03:04 AM
Well im not to fussed because i wont be able to afford it :(

But i just want the shops to keep a AMD S939 4200 untill the begining of december so then i will be dual core WOOT!!

gaz_the_chav
10-31-2006, 09:08 AM
Urm ot sure if I'm going to sound like a retard now but Quad SLi is already out lol

http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_quadsli.html

-gaz

Airbozo
10-31-2006, 12:02 PM
Yeah different processors for different things

Physics
Sound
CPU - Quad Core
Graphics

Also as the price of flash memory drops HDD will be just be flash memory based. Also more intergration of wirless into desktops along with wirless modems. To get wirless broadband over 3g networks.

No optical dirves maybe as every one buys games online and downloads them.



I agree with the "core for each task" approach, and with other silicon advancements, they could be re-configurable cores. Need a high performance game system? One core becomes the physics processor, one (or 2) become the gpu's, one (or 2) remain cpu's. Need to serve up some MPEG media? One core now switches to dedicated MPEG decoder. Should be simple enough.

The flash memory HD may be a little while off due to timing issues. But back in '84 I was working on a product from Storage Tek called a "Solid State Disk Device". 2 full racks of memory operating as a storage device. Fast, but _expensive_!

I would not count on the last one since I like many others still enjoy having the product in our hands. Just like music, most people still want to hold that cd and look through the liner notes. I just think that the nextgen optical devices will be holographic.

EDIT: just checked with the sales guy handling storage and he quoted me a price of over $100,000 for 64gb of solid state disk space.

AKA_RA
10-31-2006, 01:12 PM
Anyone got thoughts on the AIPU demos?

Indybird
10-31-2006, 04:41 PM
First I was guessing the name of the next graphics thing (of course AGP is dead) I meant AGP-"Express", since we went from PCI to PCI-Express, Get it?
And when I meant quad card I meant 4 cards on four slots, but I changed my mind. I now think there will be 1 multi-core GPU

Razors Edge
10-31-2006, 05:27 PM
PCIE-2 x32

xdxforever
10-31-2006, 05:35 PM
that will be a while yet because the highest bandwidth usage of any graphics card only barely spikes over 8x. It will be a long time until a card can use the full 16x bandwidth. (the nvidea gx2 uses a bit over 8x because the multiple processors the bus has to serve, but still not anything like 16x)

Razors Edge
10-31-2006, 05:46 PM
that will be a while yet because the highest bandwidth usage of any graphics card only barely spikes over 8x. It will be a long time until a card can use the full 16x bandwidth. (the nvidea gx2 uses a bit over 8x because the multiple processors the bus has to serve, but still not anything like 16x)

Yeah, then its sorta like there is no porpuse of pci-e x16? It sucks becuase I mean, im not quite talking about THIS in paticular, but this happens to alot of people. You save up alot of cash, and buy somthing thats top of the line, tomorrow, Something new or better comes up. Stuff like that pisses me off. If GPU's barley pass x8 then it slike there is no purpose in an PCI-e. Whatever, world changes, I can't stop people from inventing stuff....

CanaBalistic
10-31-2006, 09:51 PM
Here are my predictions:

1. Miniturization (we still have a long way to go but micro atx is bringing us there)
2. Less power Consumtion ( 10 watt PSU anyone?)
3. No moving parts (prone to failure from creation)
4. More bits, fewer clocks, less heat (2048 bit computing?)
5. Total Wireless Conectivity For Peripheral devices (no more messy wires)

Thats whats most likely to happen.

xdxforever
11-01-2006, 02:12 AM
There is a purpose to pci-e and any such advancement however: first of all its a more efficient(logical) design, and it Provides Developers With Room To Work With.
by the way, i havent heard about clockless computing in a while, is there still anyone trying to build superfast hardware using the idea?

SgtM
11-01-2006, 03:06 PM
Intel has a 64 core chip. They're hoping to have it out to consumers in about 5 years.

Zephik
11-01-2006, 03:31 PM
I thought it was 80?

News.com.com (http://news.com.com/2100-1006_3-6119618.html?part=rss&tag=6119618&subj=news)
Macdailynews.com (http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/intel_pledges_80_core_processor_within_five_years/)
techspot.com (http://www.techspot.com/news/23007-intel-promises-80core-cpus-in-five-years.html)
builderau.com.au (http://www.builderau.com.au/news/soa/Intel_pledges_80_core_chips_in_five_years/0,339028227,339271320,00.htm)
engadget.com (http://www.engadget.com/2006/09/26/intel-developers-forum-roundup-four-cores-now-80-cores-later/)

Seems to be alot of links to stuff like that all over the web. Couldnt find it on the Intel website though.

I've also heard that AMD will have a 100 core processor in the next five years. I think that might be just a rumor or something though.

-SF