On Topic.

[Omega]

So if this thread is On Topic, then it must be Off Topic.

But if it is truely Off Topic it cannot possibly be On Topic. You can't be off and on at the same time. Therefore, this thread must be neither On Topic nor Off Topic, because if it is one, then it must be both, and it can't be both, so it must be neither (I almost minored in philosophy). This means there is no thread.

Therefore, I have just conclusively proved that this thread does not exist. So please ignore everything that I have posted here, as I cannot possibly have posted it in this nonexistant thread and you cannot possibly be reading it now.

[Zephik]

Ouch!

I think I just popped a brain cell...

Wait... So I didnt just write that right? o.O

:neutral:

-SF

[Slug Toy]

i for one believe this thread has no topic anyways... therefore its simultaneously neither on nor off topic, and both on and off topic. the two should cancel out in a violent manner, and i would expect the world to explode in about 200 000 years now.

[Omega]

Ouch!

I think I just popped a brain cell...

Wait... So I didnt just write that right? o.O

:neutral:

-SF

No. In fact, this is all imaginary. Everything in this whole section is imaginary.

[Zephik]

COOL!

So... can I imagine a bunch of bikini girls with coconut shell tops? :D

Hey... I'm not seeing anything! YOU LIED TO ME! *tear*

:p

-SF

[Omega]

I did not lie to you. Your failure to see is your own problem.

[nil8]

If you follow Aristotilian logic. If you break it down into you must have on and off topic and they are polarized concepts.
Let's make the situation a little more thought provoking. Can a topic be both off and on topic? What about if there is no topic? Can a thought form exist without meaning? Can it exist without something thinking it?

What makes this topic off topic if we're talking about the foundation post's concepts? Wouldn't that be on topic, ie the name of the thread?

[simon275]

Sir!!

May I be excused my brain hurts?

[Omega]

If you follow Aristotilian logic. If you break it down into you must have on and off topic and they are polarized concepts.
Let's make the situation a little more thought provoking. Can a topic be both off and on topic? What about if there is no topic? Can a thought form exist without meaning? Can it exist without something thinking it?

What makes this topic off topic if we're talking about the foundation post's concepts? Wouldn't that be on topic, ie the name of the thread?

The whole concept of the thread is that in an off-topic zone, nothing can be on topic, however by posting anything you thereby create a topic, meaning that the post is both on and off topic simultaneously.

Due to the contradiction, everything in "Off-topic" discussion zones essentially becomes nonexistant.

[a.Bird]

I believe what this thread really suggests is that the description for the Chatterbox section is inaccurate because as you have already mentioned, Omega, any thread that is created is inherently on the topic of something. What needs to be defined is the topic that these threads are really off of.

If the Chatterbox description was plainly specified as "Off the topic of Modding", then this thread would be off topic without contest. Therefore I believe that a thread is either on a topic or off it but cannot be both simultaneously.

But then again, 'topic' is such a loose term to begin with...

[Slug Toy]

lets put it this way shall we:

this thread is off the topic of everything it isnt talking about. its also on topic in terms of off topic talk. so that means it has a topic about "nothing"... which in turn... conflicts with itself... and... everyone is indirectly responsible, and its society's fault because i didnt get enough love as a child...

no, wait... its definitely got a topic. its not "nothing"... its more like a debate over what exactly is going on here... so this thread is posing an extensive question as to what exactly isnt going on here?

dammit omega!!! ive got a math midterm tomorrow... trig identities!!! if i fail, im holding you indirectly responsible.

[Omega]

dammit omega!!! ive got a math midterm tomorrow... trig identities!!! if i fail, im holding you indirectly responsible.



Bwhahaha, my evil here is done.

[DaveW]

Umm...your logic is flawed, the thread would need to be called off topic.

-Dave

[ajmilton]

dave's got a point. in order for a thread to be "on topic" in the "off topic" forum, the thread would have to be "off topic".

and i think, if i do some horribly convoluted math (and maybe just horrible math) extrapolating from this, i might be able to prove 1 = 0

hmm

[b4i7]

omega...i think you just figured out how to divide by zero

[luciusad2004]

I think to solve this you have to define "off topic" and "on topic".

Personaly off-topic to me means that it simply does not follow a predefined topic.
On-topic , means that it DOES follow a predefined topic.

Therefore, posting an off topic post in an off topic thread simply means that the post does not follow a specific topic, which is ok because the thread has no topic. This does not make it on-topic because there is no topic to follow in the first place.

However it seems that it would be IMPOSSIBLE to post an on-topic post if the thread is labeled off-topic

You could then easily translate this to the off topic forum.

So i would say that this thread is not really on topic because this forum has no specified topic.

However the posts within the thread ARE on topic because a topic has obviously been created within the thread.

I guarentee that none of that made sense.

Lucius :bunny:

[Omega]

I think to solve this you have to define "off topic" and "on topic".

Personaly off-topic to me means that it simply does not follow a predefined topic.
On-topic , means that it DOES follow a predefined topic.

Therefore, posting an off topic post in an off topic thread simply means that the post does not follow a specific topic, which is ok because the thread has no topic. This does not make it on-topic because there is no topic to follow in the first place.

However it seems that it would be IMPOSSIBLE to post an on-topic post if the thread is labeled off-topic

You could then easily translate this to the off topic forum.

So i would say that this thread is not really on topic because this forum has no specified topic.

However the posts within the thread ARE on topic because a topic has obviously been created within the thread.

I guarentee that none of that made sense.

Lucius :bunny:

By creating a thread (topic) in a forum for "Generalized Off Topic Chatter", you are creating something that is "on topic" in a place where only "off topic" things can exist. If only "off topic" things can exist, then something that is "on topic" is canceled out and therefore, does not exist.

[luciusad2004]

By creating a thread (topic) in a forum for "Generalized Off Topic Chatter", you are creating something that is "on topic" in a place where only "off topic" things can exist. If only "off topic" things can exist, then something that is "on topic" is canceled out and therefore, does not exist.

I dont see this as a simple boolean expression Its more complex than that.

The thread in my opinion is not the same as the topic. The thread is just the medium in which the topic is conveyed. A thread can exist without a topic and thus be "off topic" leaving room for any sort of discussion

The forum has no specified or predefined topic. Therefor any thread can be created (as long as they don't violate tbcs terms of service ;) ) This thread is a seperate entity contained within the forum. Thus, the thread can contain a topic, but the topic does not apply to the forum which contains the thread and there fore the forum itself is still "off topic" because no topic has been defined for the forum. However the posts within the thread are now under jurisdiction of the thread, which has defined a topic underneath it. So while the thread remains "off topic" under the forum, the posts under the thread can be "on topic"

Im sure u will prove me wrong, im definitely not a philosophical person

Edit: If none of this exists does that mean its not really 2:08 in the monring and i just imagined the passing of time, or am i stuck in a vegetative like trance were i imagine what is going on while time simply passes me by. I hope its the first because i dont want to have to go to bed : )

[DaveW]

Jesus guys, lay off the smack, ok?

-Dave

[luciusad2004]

Do you mean lay off the smack talk... or lay off the drugs...

Sorry, i didnt mean to smack talk, i was just throwing my idea out there.

I hope no one took any offense

[rosecityracr]

So does this mean Seinfeld never existed?

[DaveW]

Do you mean lay off the smack talk... or lay off the drugs...

I meant the drugs. :)

-Dave

[luciusad2004]

I meant the drugs. :)

-Dave

Ah ok lol.

Im proud to say that this brain has been, is, and always will be completely drug free.

[a.Bird]

Ah ok lol.

Im proud to say that this brain has been, is, and always will be completely drug free.
You must have a very strict diet.

[luciusad2004]

You must have a very strict diet.

haha I mean illegal substance wise... im sure i take in more than my fair share of preservatives, additives and whatnot lol.

[Omega]

Sadly this no longer applies, since nowhere does it say "Off topic". Curses.

[Crazy Buddhist]

Sadly this no longer applies, since nowhere does it say "Off topic". Curses.

Indeed the Chatterbox is for "posting whatever you want within reason" so anything posted within it is on-topic by definition and your original "logic" is illogical nonsense.

:)

[Omega]

Indeed the Chatterbox is for "posting whatever you want within reason" so anything posted within it is on-topic by definition and your original "logic" is illogical nonsense.

:)

Hence my post about it no longer being relevant.

[Crazy Buddhist]

Hence my post about it no longer being relevant.

Hence my post agreeing with you

[b4i7]

i was bout to say whos the noob that rez'd this thread.....then i realized it was only omega