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noodlesnspam
11-18-2006, 10:28 PM
Hi, i was wondering if anyone know of any company that will actually put a complete system together for you but you buy the parts and ship it or bring it to them or you give them a list of everything you want and they build it for you.

I know there's a lot of custom pc companies out there but none of them are truely completely customized. They give u limited options in each category and they all specialize in limited number of cases and or modding techniques.

Essentially the reason im asking is because i want to buy a falcon-nw fragbox II case kit and have it fitted with components of my choice and have it watercooled. Falcon doesnt seem to do watercooling for the fragbox and theyre very strict in which components they put in..if you ask for different components and even if they allow it, im sure they would charge a large premium.

any help would be great. I reside in TX so if you know of any local companies, that be great. If any such company exist, please let me know ones that do and are experienced in watercooling.

Crimson Sky
11-18-2006, 10:53 PM
try the guys over at www.austinmodders.com Or you could PM me with more details...warning, I ain't cheap ;)

noodlesnspam
11-19-2006, 12:06 AM
hmm i just went to austinmodders.com, the website seems a bit confusing, they dont have any products on display or any pictures of previously completed projects.

oh and what do you mean pm you? are you part of any company or did you mean you might consider doing it for me? I wasnt exactly looking for a single person third party contractor type thing lol, i have a friend who can build pcs quite well but i was sort of looking for boutique custom pc company that does what im asking for.

xdxforever
11-19-2006, 12:53 AM
just call Falcon, im pretty sure they will make one the way you want it, or else a good reason why you dont really want the setup you thought you did. Of course it costs plenty, if price is a concearn you probably shouldn't look a Falcon at all.

Crimson Sky
11-19-2006, 02:43 AM
oh and what do you mean pm you? are you part of any company or did you mean you might consider doing it for me? I wasnt exactly looking for a single person third party contractor type thing lol, i have a friend who can build pcs quite well but i was sort of looking for boutique custom pc company that does what im asking for.

Pm=private message

I own this website, and I've been a professional custom computer fabricator (http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=53)for 5 years now, with over 25 years experience as a master craftsman. :D ...Or you can just buy my book (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789731924/thebestcase06-20/002-8841673-2223222?creative=327641&camp=14573&link_code=as1)and have one of your friends build it. ;)

If you want someone to throw in a few custom watercooled parts, thats not exactly something a "boutique" shop will do for you, unless its already an option on thier offered systems.

noodlesnspam
11-19-2006, 05:41 AM
I know what a pm is :D what i meant was i had no idea you owned this site and that you were a professional custom pc fabricator, i just assumed you were some random guy offering to help me. I might consider the offer in the future, as long as youre cheaper than falcon haha

Crimson Sky
11-19-2006, 04:13 PM
The words "Custom" and "Cheap" don't belong in the same sentence. If you want anything custom made, expect to pay a premium.

Silenced_Coyote
11-19-2006, 05:00 PM
hmm i just went to austinmodders.com, the website seems a bit confusing, they dont have any products on display or any pictures of previously completed projects.

oh and what do you mean pm you? are you part of any company or did you mean you might consider doing it for me? I wasnt exactly looking for a single person third party contractor type thing lol, i have a friend who can build pcs quite well but i was sort of looking for boutique custom pc company that does what im asking for.

I don't know if it is just me. I can be stupid sometimes. But what exactly are you asking for? Are you looking for a custom modded pc (ex. Crimson Sky's PCs)? That is what the title of this thread sounds like. Or do you just want full control of every pc component that will go into your case and the case itself? Because that is what your posts sound like.

DaveW
11-19-2006, 07:16 PM
i just assumed you were some random guy offering to help me.

In a few months time, you'll look back at that, and say: "Was i really that big a noob?" You NEED to go look up Doom 3 in Paul Capello's Worklogs.

Hint: Crimson Sky = Paul Capello.

We'll make a modder out of you yet!

-Dave

noodlesnspam
11-19-2006, 11:53 PM
I don't know if it is just me. I can be stupid sometimes. But what exactly are you asking for? Are you looking for a custom modded pc (ex. Crimson Sky's PCs)? That is what the title of this thread sounds like. Or do you just want full control of every pc component that will go into your case and the case itself? Because that is what your posts sound like.

I suppose i was looking for the latter, but then again, i did not know who crimson sky was, with that aside, wanting full control of every pc component and the case itself is the same as wanting a fully customizable pc no? either way, i am just trying to find out what options are available out there for a new custom system i want to buy early next year. :D

p.s. sky do you actually offer the service to make complete custom systems to interested buyers profesionally or is it just on a by request basis as a hobby?

Silenced_Coyote
11-20-2006, 03:00 AM
Fully customizable and modded is different. If you just want to fully customize it, then why not build it yourself or get that friend of yours to do it? Just do a little research and you can easily figure it out. If you don't know what exactly to do, just ask us.

This is an example of a custom modded PC:
Crimson Sky makes this
http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/projects/doom3/bg_antec05.jpg

look like this afterwards
http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/doom3/d3_2.jpg

noodlesnspam
11-20-2006, 03:48 AM
what i want to get in a few months is a fragbox 2 with a internal water cooling system. im not a DIY person when it comes to computer hardware/modding by any sense of the word nor do i have the time and energy to research and put together a quality product such as this. My friend is by no means experienced enough to put together a quality water cooling sff system. Which is why iam looking to have it built for me I am going to take a stab that even someone who is moderately experienced with putting together a complete system might not have a easy time with what i am asking.

Silenced_Coyote
11-20-2006, 07:03 PM
Does your friend have any time on his hands? I'm sure he would learn really fast. It would benefit the both of you too.

nil8
11-20-2006, 09:33 PM
It depends on what you're looking for. You mentioned small form factor.
So you want a top of the line gaming rig that uses water cooling and is small form factor?
And you want it cheap? Good luck. You are going to probably have to have a custom fabricator like Paul do it for you. I don't know of many waterblocks that fit inside sff cases.

Putting together basic systems, even watercooled ones, isn't a hard task for most hobbyists these days. It's a matter of knowing your hardware enough and how to troubleshoot when issues arise.

I forgot doom3 was a super lanboy. I also forgot how freaking sweet that lcd remote door was.

Silenced_Coyote
11-20-2006, 11:14 PM
BloodMoon by Dgephri (http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3517)

If I remember correctly... he has a dual radiator, Danger Den TDX CPU block, and a 7950GX2 waterblock in his SFF case.

DaveW
11-21-2006, 07:05 AM
If you're in the UK, Vadim and Voodoo will make you a nice PC. I think Voodoo will also ship to the US, but i don't know about Vadim. They have a wide range of great 'part-custom' (their cases and designs) computers, but you can phone them up and ask for a bespoke computer if you want.

-Dave

noodlesnspam
11-21-2006, 01:32 PM
And you want it cheap? Good luck. You are going to probably have to have a custom fabricator like Paul do it for you. I don't know of many waterblocks that fit inside sff cases.


i guess there was a misunderstanding, what i meant was that i was hoping it would be cheaper than falcon-nw. They charge a rather hefty premium and their air cooled fragbox with the latest components puts you over $6k. Im trying to first and foremost find out earlier in this post if a watercooled ssf system is possible and if it is, how difficult is it to put together. Of course im willing to pay a decent price for something that meets my specifications.

to davew: i do read custompc magazine from uk. im not really a fan of voodoo, issue 37 highlighted some major flaws in their system and the price you pay simply does not warrant it.

as far as vadim, scan and other companies from uk are concerned, ive emailed all of them. vadim in my opinion is prob the most customization friendly company ive come across and their water cooling solution is amazing, but they dont accept outside cases. im looking for a fragbox.

jreffy
11-21-2006, 02:35 PM
i guess there was a misunderstanding, what i meant was that i was hoping it would be cheaper than falcon-nw. They charge a rather hefty premium and their air cooled fragbox with the latest components puts you over $6k. Im trying to first and foremost find out earlier in this post if a watercooled ssf system is possible and if it is, how difficult is it to put together. Of course im willing to pay a decent price for something that meets my specifications.

to davew: i do read custompc magazine from uk. im not really a fan of voodoo, issue 37 highlighted some major flaws in their system and the price you pay simply does not warrant it.

as far as vadim, scan and other companies from uk are concerned, ive emailed all of them. vadim in my opinion is prob the most customization friendly company ive come across and their water cooling solution is amazing, but they dont accept outside cases. im looking for a fragbox.


Not saying you are being too picky, but for the level of customization and control you want, as well as keeping the price down, you pretty much have 2 options

1) learn to do it yourself (in all honesty, I knew nothing, I bought 2 books, found these forums, and now I know a TON)

2) find a forum member or friend that is willing to do it for you for a reasonable price.

Personally I would LOVE to do something like this for you, but I'm in the US, and I'm only now working on my first mod (see my sig for the worklog)

Silenced_Coyote
11-21-2006, 03:56 PM
Im trying to first and foremost find out earlier in this post if a watercooled ssf system is possible and if it is, how difficult is it to put together.

It is possible. I guess you didn't see my last post with a link to Dgephri's BloodMoon mod. Just read his work log to get an idea of how hard it is. Of course, the difficulty may change depending on different cases.

Link to BloodMoon
(http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3517)

isunktheship
11-21-2006, 06:19 PM
...Or you can just buy my book (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0789731924/thebestcase06-20/002-8841673-2223222?creative=327641&camp=14573&link_code=as1)and have one of your friends build it. ;)


I bought his book, it was really helpful! I no longer have to find articles on-line and group them together, or print them out.

Trying to get a custom computer like the Doom 3 PC is tough, you're basically going to have to either do it yourself, hire a guy like Paul, or hire Paul.

Are you talking about a custom interior or exterior... both?

noodlesnspam
11-22-2006, 12:21 AM
It is possible. I guess you didn't see my last post with a link to Dgephri's BloodMoon mod. Just read his work log to get an idea of how hard it is. Of course, the difficulty may change depending on different cases.

Link to BloodMoon
(http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3517)

yea i didnt see the link, i just read it, it seems rather difficult, DIY is def out of the picture, i dont have the free time at all.


Personally I would LOVE to do something like this for you, but I'm in the US, and I'm only now working on my first mod

im from austin texas

Silenced_Coyote
11-22-2006, 02:27 AM
It didn't seem too difficult fitting a water cooling system in his case. Most of his hard stuff was modding the case itself (like etching the windows and cutting out the panels). But if I remember correctly, all he had to do was squeeze everything in. Cut a little bit because part of a bar or something was in the way of the radiator barbs.

I'm not trying to take anything away from his case and his hard work. I think his mod was fantastic!

OvRiDe
11-23-2006, 12:15 AM
Since your in Austin, the Austin Modders might still be a good place to ask. The guys over there are a VERY talented bunch, and to top it off they are a very helpful group. I know Zapwizard has built several SFF machines, and I am pretty sure there were a few that were watercooled. Who knows, maybe one of them might be interested in setting something up for you. I would post a question over there and see what they have to say!

Hope this helps and good luck!