Podcast

[progbuddy]

I think it would be a neat idea to organize a podcast for iTunes, URGE, or some other popular online music store. It would keep everyone up to date on important things, tutorials, and other things that go on at TBCS.

[Crimson Sky]

Thats a very cool idea--count me in!~

[Slug Toy]

that would be a good supplement the front page news, and id be in for it too seeming as ive been recruited to supply updates already. only problem is that i dont have a microphone, and my sound card doesnt like audio input for some reason. so i have no way to fiddle with audio recording at the moment.

good idea though. if it goes over well, its an excuse for me to get a good microphone and sort out this audio bug.

maybe instead of putting it on itunes or something like that... figure out a way to have it downloadable directly from TBCS. just a suggestion... i dont know what sort of work that entails.

[progbuddy]

eh. Server space. It won't take up much, so you could put quite a few on the server. I could also try to make my RAID server and put it on when it gets done :p.

I'll go get a mic in a couple days (only 10 bucks at walmart :D).

As for your sound card problem, try using the onboard. Install the drivers over again and see if that helps.

[Crimson Sky]

Well since we have our very own servers here at TBCS, I think we have oodles of space on the drives, and plenty of bandwidth. :)

[progbuddy]

Well since we have our very own servers here at TBCS, I think we have oodles of space on the drives, and plenty of bandwidth. :)

woot. :)

[nil8]

It's more a matter of get the human resources to do it regularly and without much supervision.
Paul's approval is important too, it is his name and image.

[Slug Toy]

but if its me saying the things (which it hopefully will be because ill definitely volunteer)... its going to be more my problem if i start offending people. i mean come on... this whole forum exists because paul lets it, and im pretty sure he doesnt take responsibility for what we say here, or at least he probably doesnt WANT to.

[Timoi]

We could just have a little statement at the beginning of each edition saying 'The views expressed are solely those of the individual stating them and are not necessarly those of TBCS or it's owners' or something like that. That way paul is in no way responsible for what is in the videos.

[Crimson Sky]

If anyone wants to start a TBCS ModCast, go for it. I'll contribute where I can. I'll also have to screen them before they go up.

[ajmilton]

haha. modcast

that's great.

[progbuddy]

Hmmm... I'm gonna look through the latest stuff on RSS feed and the forums for things of interest. Anyone got skype or AIM (besides the ones that know me on AIM :p), because I can record you from my computer (got a double male 8mm, good thing to have).

[jaxspades]

I'd like to offer my video editing services if at all possible...

I'm working on a video viewing website anyway, so this would be sweet.

As for a microphone, if you did this as a video, and not audio, then you could use just about any camcorder seeing as they all have Mikes.

But, video tends to take up space.... :think:

[Slug Toy]

well... looks like ive got to go get a webcam and a microphone now and start rambling.

[AKA_RA]

...i have a dremel and a headset...

[ESX]

I can help with something :)
(Just dunno what (and er, I prefer doing something except talking, because my accent is horrible))

[AKA_RA]

id rather not be on the spot either. i have an american accent, but i think the things i would say would get me put into a paded box for a long time.

[progbuddy]

lmao. Just as long as its not very, VERY bad. Anyways, I've got a bootleg mic setup (headphones, amplifier, 8 mm cord, and me :p)

[AKA_RA]

well...do you like reading monologues to yourself? im sure i could type some interesting things up. theres more of a chance for self censorship in that scenario.

[TheDingo]

Check out blogtalkradio.com (www.blogtalkradio.com)
its newer and allows callers to call in and talk...I do a show but it has nothing to do with comps but it works pretty good. When you register (free) they give you a number and at the time you make your show you call in and punch a host code and when your time comes you are live. Then there is a call in number and listeners can call in and their numbers come up on your screen and allows you to click them and then they are live on the air.
If you have any ?s feel free to ask.

[progbuddy]

I need to check into what you guys think would be a better deal:

iTunes-
Pros: Get more people into TBCS
doesnt take up TBCS server space
Supports video podcasts and audio podcasts

Cons: Need iTunes :p
Download times

TBCS server-
Pros: Faster download times :D
On the website (kind of a "duh...")

Cons: Server space


I'm thinking a combo of both.

[ESX]

How about using rapidshare or sth? :P

[DaveW]

Cons: Server space


Look, i've seen the server man. It's amazing. And it's only hosting this website. Server space is the last thing to worry about. Bandwith costs are a bigger problem, as we've still not sorted out all the advertising on this site-i think Paul's still paying a pretty large overhead.

-Dave

[progbuddy]

Yeah. I think bandwidth wont be a problem as long as you have a T1 for audio or a T3 for video.

[FyreKnight]

Yeah. I think bandwidth wont be a problem as long as you have a T1 for audio or a T3 for video.


I think Dave was referring to the cost of the bandwidth required to stream audio or video, not the speed. Although I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong :P .

[gaz_the_chav]

I hate to sound like a complete idiot but I hear loads of people talking about podcasts but wtf are they lol?

Thanks

-gaz

[TheDingo]

I really think there should be a show where the forum members can call in and discuss topics that are hott on the forum.
But I am new here so what do I know?
If anyone is interested I can get you all the info on how to get a free listener call in # and how to host.
I think it would be a good idea to do this along with the one you are already discussing.

[DaveW]

Hehe...mod radio? You're crazy Dingo, that's...just mad enough to work! People can phone in and talk about Mods, give opinions, and the hosts can present a show...that's cool.

Crimson's always wanted to be able to put videos on this site, you can tell with the Modder's Workshop project he started a while back. The only problem is that we don't really have a proper medium for it.


I hate to sound like a complete idiot but I hear loads of people talking about podcasts but wtf are they lol?

A podcast is a like a recording that you download and play on your Ipod when on the way to work and stuff. There's a lot of good ones about technology.

-Dave

[TheDingo]

I actually already run a talk show where callers call in and we talk live. Its basicly just kids from my school (Im 18 and still in hs, so its nothing to do with modding) but I could give you the info. You dont need a server its all through a site and they give you a call in number, its pretty cool.

[gaz_the_chav]

But what if people like myself don't have an iPod lol!

Can you just watch it on your computer or is it in a format which only works on your iPod - I could watch it on my phone if it is in the right format.

-gaz

[ESX]

Well, Winamp has a thingie called SHOUTcast Wire, which is basically just like a podcast :)

[nil8]

Podcasts don't have to be solely for ipods. The other option a lot of people offer is mp3, which works everywhere for everyone and is often the better choice for a general audience.

Podcast is a blanket term meaning people talking and it being recorded and posted in the net these days, not just via ipod or itunes.

The idea of a call in show is a cool one.

[ESX]

Shoutcast Wire: http://www.winamp.com/music/wire.php

[chedabob]

I could host :D

[TheDingo]

will there be a call in line? Because I think that would make the show a whole lot better

[Kabniel]

most podcasts are mp3, aac(?), or qt formats. you can watch/listen to them with whatever you like. However iTunes works best and allows you to "subscribe" and automatically download them when they are released.

[progbuddy]

I finally got around to getting some things on the shopping list :). I'm trying to think of how to session this.

[.Maleficus.]

What about if you could download them via torrent? I'd seed them as much as I could, and I think that would ease some of the cost issues.

And I would be willing to help with this as much as needed. Material to talk about, editing, doing the cast, if you need help I'm in.

[Bucko]

Or just upload them to YouTube.

As for iTunes, that's one awful piece of software that will not go near my computer.

[DaveW]

VBulletin (the software that powers the forums) has a podcast distribution system built into it. If someone wanted to start a podcast, then it could be distributed easily via the forums.

But you're gonna have to ask Crimson about it. I can aid with the technical aspects, but i've no time for the podcast itself.

-Dave

[nil8]

I didn't know that VBulletin had a podcast content delivery system.
My support would go for torrents. They're a fantastic content delivery system, free, well documented and have a large base that knows how to use them.
I would definitely suggest mp3 as the suggested format. AAC is a pain in the ass for anyone who doesn't use iTunes/iPod/Mac, which is much closer to zero than all of the prospective listeners.

This is a great idea and project and I hope it gets on its feet.
If you want some off-air help, I'd be willing to volunteer some time.

[progbuddy]

I didn't know that VBulletin had a podcast content delivery system.
My support would go for torrents. They're a fantastic content delivery system, free, well documented and have a large base that knows how to use them.
I would definitely suggest mp3 as the suggested format. AAC is a pain in the ass for anyone who doesn't use iTunes/iPod/Mac, which is much closer to zero than all of the prospective listeners.

This is a great idea and project and I hope it gets on its feet.
If you want some off-air help, I'd be willing to volunteer some time.

Torrents are slow though.
As paul said, there's a good chunk of room.

[DaveW]

Well, the thing about torrents is that VBulletin doesn't have a torrent distributer built into it, meaning you'd still need to find a way to distribute; simply posting torrent links into the forums doesn't really sound like any real way to do this.

-Dave

[progbuddy]

Well since we have our very own servers here at TBCS, I think we have oodles of space on the drives, and plenty of bandwidth. :)

No problem, I'm guessing :D

[Omega]

I've done a normal Podcast before, and I'd be up for poking my head into a ModCast from time to time, too. Just means I have to hook up my microphone....

[simon275]

I would love to help out and even get involved. My friends and I have worked on and tried to start a number of audio and video podcasts. The main thing with podcasts is working to a schedule and not putting to much content in each cast so the following ones suffer. The best way to manage it is to set a time limit for different sections or the whole cast its self.

Also what would be the production schedule Monthly maybe to begin with?

I was thinking we could have different people doing different sections.

So maybe first have

TBCS Modding News
Modding news from around the net
Workshop Session - (Maybe only every couple of podcasts to keep listeners hooked so they have to keep listening out for a session)
Answering live calls using maybe skype and answering emails.

For distro

ITunes is really the best but also maybe on the main page have a download button for the latest cast.

Also mp3 is the best format to distribute in

[DaveW]

I think the best way to do this would be for whoever actually wants to do this to throw together a demo of some sort then send it to us. So, the floor's open if someone wants to take up the reigns; I get the impression that everyone's waiting for someone to head this project.

If you want to take this on, then feel free; just throw together a demo podcast of some sort, send it to us; we'll have a listen, and if we like it, we'll distribute it through VBulletin to see how the whole thing would work and what the community thinks of it. It's only way we can determine if this is going to work or not.

-Dave

[progbuddy]

I think the best way to do this would be for whoever actually wants to do this to throw together a demo of some sort then send it to us. So, the floor's open if someone wants to take up the reigns; I get the impression that everyone's waiting for someone to head this project.

If you want to take this on, then feel free; just throw together a demo podcast of some sort, send it to us; we'll have a listen, and if we like it, we'll distribute it through VBulletin to see how the whole thing would work and what the community thinks of it. It's only way we can determine if this is going to work or not.

-Dave

I'll try to get something started Dave :D

its in my to do list under:

1. do the dew.
2. HAMMERTIME!

Both those take about 5-10 minutes depending on how much dew i want, and what the heck I wanna beat with a hammer :p

[progbuddy]

'Right.

I got some great audio editing software. Now for some corny sound effects :D

I'm thinking about doing some type of picture show to go along with the audio.

Software Available:

Ulead Video Studio
Audio Editor Gold
Digital Audio Editor
Many different encoders/decoders

[Omega]

I think the best way to do this would be for whoever actually wants to do this to throw together a demo of some sort then send it to us. So, the floor's open if someone wants to take up the reigns; I get the impression that everyone's waiting for someone to head this project.

If you want to take this on, then feel free; just throw together a demo podcast of some sort, send it to us; we'll have a listen, and if we like it, we'll distribute it through VBulletin to see how the whole thing would work and what the community thinks of it. It's only way we can determine if this is going to work or not.

-Dave

Here you go, Dave.

TBCS Modcast 1 Demo (http://media.putfile.com/TBCS-Modcast-1-Demo)

[progbuddy]

Here you go, Dave.

TBCS Modcast 1 Demo (http://media.putfile.com/TBCS-Modcast-1-Demo)

Fxck. You beat me to it. lol

Great podcast. Just add some corny sound effects, and a downloading place.

[Omega]

This, kids, is why you never give a geek audacity and a microphone.

All noises were made by me then layered on top of each other for this monstrosity.

Cheesy podcast intro (http://media.putfile.com/cheesy-podcast-intro)

[DaveW]

Feedback:

1) The podcast really lacks structure. Obviously it's only a demonstration but it seems to be more of a demonstration of what sort of things you can do with your technology. I'm thinking of maybe sections for the podcasts, maybe splitting everything up into categories to make maybe a 10-15 minute podcast?

Here's some suggestions for categories:

Mod events: What's happening in theworld of mods. Case mod competitions, etc.
Forum focus: What's been happening on the TBCS forums; is something interesting happening this month? Is there another modder's challenge coming in? Who won the last one? Interesting events? New tutorials, tricks, etc?
Worklog focus: Who's updated their worklogs recently? Anything good in it?
Mod focus: Anyone pulled a good mod out their boots? Talk about what it's like?
Interviews with modders would be great, although i wasn't expecting anyone to go so far with a demo tape.
Technology brief; what's happening in the technology world? Any new cooling? Any new Games coming out? Anything interesting happening in the world of modding?
Modding articles/reviews/theories? Hints and Tips?


2) I have to admit, as a presenter, that came across pretty well, even with the silly voice effect. I'd kind of suggest removing that if you wanted to be taken seriously. Despite the silly voice though, you were still pretty clear and easy to understand. You presented your information pretty well, even with a few pauses and perhaps too many 'umms' towards to the middle. You spoke with confidence, and overall, i thought it showed a lot of promise, if it lacked professionalism. One thing i'd consider is a co-host, another presenter. Personally, i'd love it if you could meet up with one of the Brits on this one; do a 'both sides of the pond' kind of thing. :) I think a co-host would help to make it more interesting and funny, plus it can always add perspective.

I think that's it. To be honest, it's a lot better than what i was expecting; the only reason i'm giving this feedback is because you've now persuaded me that this is actually an avenue that's worth investigating. With a few tweaks and improvements, i can see this being a pretty cool show. I'd still like to hear from other people though; Omega, if you are interested in doing this, let me know what you have planned and such, and i'll try to give you more constructive feedback. It might also be worth PM'ing Crimson Sky himself about it and getting feedback. I don't know how much he's interested in Audio editing but i know he has a taste for movies and special effects; I'm sure he can give you some good professional advice. Plus, any show's going to need his blessing don't forget. :)

Other people should definately download Omega's trial and give him feedback. Let me know what you think of his stuff. Anyone else with a demo can host it like Omega or even send it to me at warndave[at]googlemail.com .

-Dave

[progbuddy]

Cheezy podcast intro- Check. lol

The podcast just needs a little more structure. Maybe outline the podcast before going "on air"?

[Omega]

I've done structured podcasts, and they work quite well. What that demo was was me reading Dave's post then opening up the front page and making up some extra fluff to make it sound nicer.

I like the American/Brit idea, but there's some good time differences there. I live on the West coast of the USA, and Britain is past the east coast so....

[DaveW]

I like the American/Brit idea, but there's some good time differences there. I live on the West coast of the USA, and Britain is past the east coast so....

Fair enough point. :) Would still like to see more demos from other people if anyone's interested...

-Dave

[Ichbin]

I'm definittally more then willing prog, lol.

[DaveW]

I'm moving this thread into the chatterbox to get it more exposure.

Are there any more demos? Are people still interested in this?

-Dave

[progbuddy]

Yep. Just have to fix the mic port on this new mobo.

[tybrenis]

I'd be glad to lend my voice to a TBCS podcast.

[The Black Pumpkin]

I might give it a try, lessee...

[xRyokenx]

I might could try to cohost Kevin's podcast(s), considering I live about 5 minutes down the road... unless being your average "hides in his room and hates going out in public" nerd isn't that good for "TV" quality. I've become that way due to recent events...

[DaveW]

I might could try to cohost Kevin's podcast(s), considering I live about 5 minutes down the road... unless being your average "hides in his room and hates going out in public" nerd isn't that good for "TV" quality. I've become that way due to recent events...

Relax man. If you feel like you're becoming reclusive like that due to the way people treat you then your life is going to go somewhere you don't want it to. If Kevin lives near you, then drop by his house, the two of you can throw together a demo, and then me and Crimson will compare it Omegas, and think about where to take it. (I'm no phsyciatrist but i heartilly recommend this for your mental health-becoming reclusive is not a good path.)

There's obviously a bit of work involved in churning out a good podcast every month, so you got to be impressive! Don't be afraid to show us what you have. :D

-Dave

[xRyokenx]

Heh heh, it's just kinda a suggestion anyways. I still go to work at KFC (a fast food fried chicken joint), and am not too nervous going in there, if I were truly reclusive, I'd be like the one character off of "The Benchwarmers," you know, the one guy that was eating the sunblock, lol.

[progbuddy]

Heh heh, it's just kinda a suggestion anyways. I still go to work at KFC (a fast food fried chicken joint), and am not too nervous going in there, if I were truly reclusive, I'd be like the one character off of "The Benchwarmers," you know, the one guy that was eating the sunblock, lol.


LOL.

KFC is the place to hang out :p. I could just see Steve-O from "Jackass" just walk in and start dancing next to the buffet.

Anyways, I'm having issues with my mobo's mic input. I have the 5.1 Surround sound built in (the mic, line in, and headphones jacks all can serve as 5.1, too), and I'm trying to figure out how to change it from surround sound to mic input. I have an ASUS P5L-MX.

[DaveW]

Last chances for demos...if you want to submit one, get it in soon. :) Not going to specify a cut-off date, so it's up to you!

-Dave

[onelegout]

Can I put together a sound bite to be played as the title for the modcast?
*runs off to his primative DJ studio*
H

[DaveW]

Feel free. This is a community project, so anything you guys want to contribute, let us know. We can't exactly stop you from putting together whatever you want. We'd just like to see this project work out, because it's a good idea.

At the moment, we've still only got Omega's demo. As progbuddy started this thread we wanted to give him a chance to get his demo in before we decided what to do next. So hurry up dude. :D

Anyone else who wants to submit a demo, this is your last chance! All we ask is that you can stick to a deadline and work to a decent standard. You've got to be able to take criticism too. :)

-Dave