Tooth Ache

[Zephik]

Okay, so my tooth is throbbing and I am about to be driven up a wall! The worse part is that I do not have insurance at the moment so seeing a dentist would cost A FORTUNE. Does anyone have any tips to either ease the pain or to even solve the problem all together? The pain just started tonight, so I don't think I am too far in. Would brushing A LOT every day reverse the damage or at least ease the pain??

I know this is a weird place to ask this, on a modding forum, but I guess I just have an emotional attachment to you guys. ^^

-SnowFire

[GT40_GearHead]

dude be careful with this, it can get you good

give this a read! :http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4013

[GT40_GearHead]

-brushing wont reverse the damage, but it will prevent any more damage
-how old are you
-what pils do you have around the house
-is it sweling ?

[CanaBalistic]

I've got some bad teeth also...

The best and cheapest thing to do is go in and have the cavity filled. Its probly going to cost in the neighborhood of $150-200. Its the only solution thats going to work hands down! You could take some advil, tylenol, ambasol, percocet, ect, ect, ect. Over brushing your teeth is worse than not brushing at all. Tooth paste contains abrasives and sands away plac. After you brush away the plac, you'll start to sand the enamel off your teeth which will compound the problems and make things worse. Its best to brush your gum line and not the flats of your teeth, floss and then mouth wash.

[Zephik]

-brushing wont reverse the damage, but it will prevent any more damage
-how old are you
-what pils do you have around the house
-is it sweling ?

Dangit, well preventing further damage is better than nothing.
-19
-Advil is about all we carry
-As of 10 minutes ago, yes. :(


I've got some bad teeth also...

The best and cheapest thing to do is go in and have the cavity filled.

It's not something that can be filled. It was filled at one time, but the cap came off and the filling came out. The remaining bits of my tooth was also chipped away. Right now there is just kind of like a sharp piece of tooth remaining where my back molar once was. It hasn't bothered me at all until just very recently.

What I am thinking is if I go to a dentist, they will have to remove it. Which means I won't have a molar, which I don't anyways. But at the moment I don't have any money. How much do you think it will cost to remove the remaining bit thats causing my pain? Is there any kind of cosmetic surgery I can have done? Christmas is coming up, so maybe I can ask for "my two front teeth". or at least a new back molar if thats a possibility.

Thanks for the quick helpful response guys! :)

-SnowFire

[ESX]

Basically any painkiller would stop the pain for a bit, I.E Advil or anything like that.
I've got a tooth ache aswell, and Im going to see a dentist soon, because I dont know any other way to stop the pain (I dont think there is any because your tooth has a hole in it).

[Zephik]

dude be careful with this, it can get you good

give this a read! :http://www.thebestcasescenario.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4013

Holy flaming cows of doom...

I'll be on the watch if anything starts to get progressively worse! I guess I'll start with some salt water mouth washing and then whatever drug we have that will take the swelling down and ease the pain.

Talk about your close call though! Sounds like it was really frightening!

-SnowFire

update:

Okay, I swished three times with salt water. btw, how does salt water help?

I also took some Acetaminophen. Try pronouncing that three times fast. lol. Anyways, Thats all we had, but it did say for tooth aches on the back. I took 1000mg, which is two "Gelcaps" or also know as pills. ^^

[GT40_GearHead]

yes it was!

and that is why i posted the link, i dont want you or anyone else to go trough that

if you start to get worse **** the money and go to the doctor,

and one more thing, try not to stay alone, try to have someone around at all times

[Zephik]

yes it was!

and that is why i posted the link, i dont want you or anyone else to go trough that

Understandably!


if you start to get worse **** the money and go to the doctor

lol tru-dat man, tru-dat. Couldn't of said it better myself. ^^


and one more thing, try not to stay alone, try to have someone around at all times

LOL

It's funny, because I am alone. I am also on a mountain with no transportation except a few neighbors. I sure picked an awesome time to house sit for my parents. lol

-SnowFire

[DaveW]

It's funny, because I am alone. I am also on a mountain with no transportation except a few neighbors. I sure picked an awesome time to house sit for my parents. lol

Better playing it safe then and seeing a doctor at the first available chance.

-Davve

[Zephik]

If the swelling and/or the pain gets any worse, I will definitely give someone a call and head on down to the nearest medical center. Right now, the swelling has stopped and is possibly going down. The pain is non existent for the most part aside from my cheek rubbing up against the swollen area. I've also decided to swish with salt water every couple hours or so. lol man do I hate the dentist! :( They are the devil!

btw: Salt water... is really gross. lol

-SnowFire

[DaveW]

btw: Salt water... is really gross. lol

Try Barium out for size. (that's a joke. Don't put Barium in your mouth.)

-Dave

[Zephik]

lol

You know how gullible I am Dave! ;)

Why does salt water help? Is it because it taste gross?

This is my rule of thumb for "safe" and "edible" things. If it tastes gross, it's not only good for you but it doesn't actually taste gross. This is because you are so used to McDonald's. You have been brain washed with, more or less, crap. So you don't actually know what taste good and what doesn't. Thats my theory at least. Doesn't mean I am going to eat spinach any time soon though. ^^

-SnowFire

[simon275]

String + Door = Problem Solved :banana:

[ESX]

Im not sure why it helps, but salt water or soda water (the one you mix with soda powder, not a carbonated drink) does help somehow.

[DaveW]

You should try eating nothing but rice for a week, then trying to eat the stuff you normally eat. You will find some of it Repulsive.

If you drink nothing but water and rice, for example, then crack open a can of Tango/Fanta, you're probably going to be sick afterwards. Your taste buds are accustomed to artificial sweeteners, and like with Beer (so i'm told) it's a taste you need to aquire.

The only exception from this is Coke, which always seems to be good to me! I love the smell of it too. hmm...always coka-cola.

-Dave

[nil8]

The mouth is the number one bacteria creating openings in the body. Salt water kills bacteria, helping control infection like gearhead had.

If the swelling doesn't go down in the next day, get yourself to a dentist. Have your parents pay for it. They should understand.
Call one of your neighbors or family friends tomorrow just in case. Call your parents. Tell them what's up and see what they have to say.
Most good parents will tell you to get to a dentist and have them check it out.

If you have Listerine or other alcohol based mouthwash, swish it around in your mouth after you wake up, after every meal and before bed. It will kill enough bacteria to make the chance of infection minimal.
If you don't have Listerine, any 100 proof or higher alcohol works just as well.
If an infection gets into the gums, bones or muscles, you can have serious complications. Massive infections go beyond not being fun or comfortable to putting your body's protective system in serious jeopardy.

Another fact to consider is that when your body has being altered by any pharmacological drug, it subverts the natural methods it uses for resolution, so try not to put it under extreme duress for long periods of time.

Also, write down what you take and how much for the doctor/dentists that sees you. Drug complications can be lethal if you get anesthesia.

People are their own biological environments. They become used to the environmental factors around them. This goes from their own dander to bacteria to the food they eat and their pets hair. It's part of being living creatures. A great example is traveling. Almost all travelers become sick eating food their body isn't used to. Travel 500 miles away and eat an egg and you have a good chance of not feeling well, even if it's only while the egg is in your stomach.

As for food specifically, you have a very high chance of becoming uncomfortable to very sick if you eat food you haven't touched for years or something far outside the scope of your normal diet. This isn't always the case, but it does happen. It's all about how tolerable your stomach is.

Good for you doesn't always mean taste good. It's a fact. I HATE brussel sprouts and boiled spinach. Euch. So, I find other ways to get the nutrients contained within. In our modern worldy food markets, there are multiple different foods that have similar properties and benefits. It's all about taste. I love unleavened high fiber foods. Think edible cardboard. I enjoy the taste of it.

Best thing you can do is clean your mouth out, get some rest and check it in the morning for puss or blood.

[Zephik]

The only exception from this is Coke, which always seems to be good to me! I love the smell of it too. hmm...always coka-cola.

-Dave

UGH! Coke is awful. It makes a GREAT cleaner though. But caution be advised, if you are cleaning silver, it will eat away a good chunk of it within a 24 hour period. Otherwise, if you ever hit a person and you want to destroy the evidence that is all over your bumper, get a two liter of coke or any other coke like product and start scrubbing. Actually, we have a lot of police officers and clean up crews around here that carry coke products with them or immediately purchase some for such things like roadside deaths of animals and occasional humans.

As far as "syrup" soda's go, I LOVE Dr. Pepper. For your more, water like soda's, I like Fresca: Black Cherry. :drools:

-SnowFire

[DaveW]

As far as "syrup" soda's go, I LOVE Dr. Pepper. For your more, water like soda's, I like Fresca: Black Cherry. :drools:

Dr Pepper isn't popular here, and i've never even heard of the other one.

Coke and blood? Sounds good.

-Dave

[Slug Toy]

Salt water kills bacteria, helping control infection like gearhead had.

bingo. most of the bacteria that live in our mouths cant handle high salt concentrations. if you're unlucky enough to have a problem with a bacteria that can deal with salt... well, you're OUT of luck.


Another fact to consider is that when your body has being altered by any pharmacological drug, it subverts the natural methods it uses for resolution, so try not to put it under extreme duress for long periods of time.

this is true, but by the time swelling and pain have come around... you're usually already beyond what your body can handle, and thats when antibiotics or whatever else you need comes in handy.


Also, write down what you take and how much for the doctor/dentists that sees you. Drug complications can be lethal if you get anesthesia.

luckily, acetaminophen is a pretty generic drug (im pretty sure its the active ingredient in tylenol). there arent many drug reactions with that stuff. you can mix it with quite a few things, and ive done that... its just hard to have any adverse effects other than drowsiness or being light headed. the only thing that worries me is if theres anything else in those pills. if theres codein or something else... theres no guarantee that it wont react with another drug. my mom could help with that, shes a hospital pharmacist... but its 3:30 in the morning and im pretty sure she isnt going to just get out of bed to solve a tooth ache.

heres my suggestion on top of all the other stuff thats been thrown out there. tomorrow, dont take any medicine right away. just wait to see how you feel without any drugs in you, to try and gauge if things are getting worse or better or the same. im not talking just about pain and swelling either. pay attention to EVERYTHING. even though it isnt likely, an infection is very easy in the mouth, and things can go from bad to worse in no time because there are blood vessels close to the surface. so pay attention to fevers, disorientation, dizziness, anything really. the disorientation part is hard because when you're disoriented its challenging to actually realize it, like if you get scared right out of a deep sleep... you're head is just completely screwed at first... and thats what infections can do to you sometimes. a fever is more likely first though... disorientation and delirium are extreme cases where death is often days or even hours away.

thats about all i can help you with unless some more specific symptoms show up. and for god sake, do something about that tooth ASAP if you dont have to because of this toothache. the chips and the filling that came out... thats just a bunch of bad waiting to happen.

[Airbozo]

Well, If it hurts and is swollen GO TO THE DENTIST NOW! Most likely if it is swollen you need a root canal or the tooth removed AND they will have to remove some of the decay in your jaw. I am in the middle of a double root canal that started just before Thanksgiving. Had a root canal the monday before, went back in for them to pack it with antibiotics and they discovered another bad tooth (actually I discovered it because it hurt so damn bad!) and they did another root canal on wednesday before thanksgiving. No turkey for me, just mashed potatoes and gravy. I went back last week for them to remove the antibiotic packing in both teeth and to put in place a temporary cap. I am in the process of making an appointment to get a proper crown put on both teeth (the last 2 teeth on the bottom right).

People can catch a VERY serious infection in their jaws if the infection spreads that could lead to other nasty problems (like lock jaw!). GET TO A DENTIST NOW! Most of them are very understanding and will work with you on the $$ issue.

[Crimson Sky]

Go see a Dentist ASAP. You will find that many dentists will take you in and allow you to make small payments on any work they do. They do not like seeing people in pain, its their job to help people. Give the better parts of human nature a try.

Swollen = infection and eventually sepsis leading to probs with nearby bones.

[jdbnsn]

I could post some really graphic pathology photos of untreated dental carries resulting in osteomylitis and football sized abcesses, might help your desicion. I don't think the pics are appropriate though, just use your imagination.

[gaz_the_chav]

I've got herpes what should I do?!

Jokes :-D

-gaz

[tennysol]

I've got herpes what should I do?!

Jokes :-D

-gaz

I think the salt water thing works for that too!:rolleyes:

[gaz_the_chav]

lol nuff sed on that one already lol!

-gaz

[Fear]

I walk around with like 2 Root canals and I had a root canal once. Belive me I had alot of pain. First things first, take 2 advils. I recomend advil gel ****, cuz those are like instant, the regular **** takes 30 mins. Then just **** around with the gums above the tooth. Likeput you're finger on the gums, if its the tooth that are slightley in back fo the bront tooth, there should be some sort of small muscle that you can move up and down, ussualyl that stops the pain if you keep ****ing with it like that. Thats all i got, If you got listerine, rinse with that, close you're mout hand drown the tooth in cold listiering or cold water. Not too cold but little cold. Should take pain away. idk, i can write a book on how to take away pain from teeth, I have the worst teeth belive me. Its in my genes, both my parents are wlking aroudn with fake teeth, my older bro was born with a tooth sticking out of his mouth and ****. Its crazy.

[nil8]

You're absolutely right Slug. The only thing that concerns me is that acetaminophen is packaged with so many other drugs(normally caffeine) and is highly reactive with alcohol. Enough Tylenol mixed with alcohol causes liver failure. So no drinking while you're on it.

As for the physical stress part, Snowfire isn't a marathon runner, so hiking the 10 km to his neighbors house while drugged wouldn't be advised.

He also hasn't responded all day which is unlike him, so he probably went and got it taken care of.

Babies are born with teeth in their gums. Not a big deal if one was misplaced.

I think the general consensus here is go see a dentist now.

[Zephik]

You're absolutely right Slug. The only thing that concerns me is that acetaminophen is packaged with so many other drugs(normally caffeine) and is highly reactive with alcohol. Enough Tylenol mixed with alcohol causes liver failure. So no drinking while you're on it.

No booze? Dangit! and here I was just about to pick up drinking for the first time in my life. lol

well actually I sip here and there, but I don't think I have ever even had a buzz.


As for the physical stress part, Snowfire isn't a marathon runner, so hiking the 10 km to his neighbors house while drugged wouldn't be advised.

Are you calling me fat!? haha, jk. He is right though, I'm not fat, but I can't run for more than a minute or two without doubling over.

Luckily my parents decided to come home and check up on me for the day! :D

I should be paying the dentist a visit here soon. I just have a bad feeling that they are going to suggest to my parents that I have a complete dental make over, which happened to me before. Oh yeah, it only cost 2 grand. I think I had two cavities on every tooth and a root canal and cosmetic work because my brothers friend is a effing retard and doesn't realize that throwing a ball like thing of solid metal will break things, such as teeth. At least I didn't have a broken, oh I don't know, every facial bone? lol


He also hasn't responded all day which is unlike him, so he probably went and got it taken care of.

Actually, I was really really tired. I must of slept for 12 hours? That can't be a good sign. I'll go talk to my mother now, as she is very familiar with spending my dads money. ;)

Thanks so much for the concern you guys! I was expecting something more on the lines of "your an idiot, go to a dentist now, thread locked." lol

I'll have to reward you with a nice little mod here soon. oh that reminds me, that black plexiglass I was asking about? It is in fact clear! woot! :)

-SnowFire

[Airbozo]

I was expecting something more on the lines of "your an idiot, go to a dentist now, thread locked." lol ...
-SnowFire

If that would help, we can oblige! :up: :twisted:

[gaz_the_chav]

Well Dave got bored of locking all of ur useless posts so he thought if he leaves this one open long enough u might die surfing the net rather than going to the dentist!

Only joking mate!

-gaz

[CanaBalistic]

The only real problem aside from the pain would be getting an abcess. Even that aint no big thing. My buddy/co-worker had 8 abcessed teeth for at least a year. He eventually got them removed and now has another tooth developing an abcess. Its only when the puss of the abcess leaks into your blood stream that a life threatening problem can occur and abcess' dont develop overnight. Im sure it hurt like hell but his life was never in jepordy.

PS. Antibiotics shouldnt really be taken for problems like teeth unless you have a sever infection. Your body will build a resistance to them, and should you actually need antibiotics in the future, you run the risk of the antibiotics not working at all.

[nil8]

Abscesses and extreme infections can cause sepsis, like mentioned before. Sepsis is poisoning of the blood which causes endocrine system overload and can eventually cause failure. It also can cause major organ damage and multiple internal infections.

It's a common problem with bad infections and untreated gunshot wounds.

As for antibiotics, jury is still out in the medical world. If you're told to take them, eat yogurt while you're on them. It will help keep the bacteria in your GI tract healthy.

It's good that your parents came home. They should have dental anyway.

[Zephik]

So I got wonderful news! ...and some not so wonderful news. I'll give you the bad first.

The bad news.

Cosmetic surgery for what I need is very very exspensive. It's in the one grand range. :eek: Oh wait, it gets better. I discovered a hole in my molar on the other side of my mouth! :mad: And yet some more bad news! I wanted to have my front tooth fixed up again as its chipped. Which is cosmetic. I didn't even bother to ask, but I asked my mom. For all of what I want, we are looking at the 3+ grand range. Thats rediculous... :(

The good news.

To have it removed, its only 50 bucks. lol!

I'm already used to not having a molar there, so that is flipping awesome! I was doing the happy dance in front of like 7 people lol. you don't want to see me do the happy dance... :hurt:

Once I get on my own insurance, I'm hoping to have a complete dental make over in the future. Maybe I'll split the cost with my dad as an early birthday present... for the rest of my life. lol

-SnowFire

[Airbozo]

Hate to lay it on you, but the only time you get coverage for most cosmetic dental work (including braces), is when you are on your parents insurance... (ask me about the $7k braces bill for the S/O, and neither of our insurance covered it...or the $10k bill for the jaw reconstruction if the braces don't work.)

[Zephik]

Why does it cost so much!?!?

-SnowFire

[Digital_Remix]

baby orajel works for my toothaches

[nil8]

It costs so much because of the amount of specialization and difficulty of work.
Professional work costs professional money. Even more so in any form of healthcare, due to dwindling people entering the profession.

Airbozo is right. Most insurance companies/plans don't cover chiropractic, dental, aural(eye), cosmetic or mental issues. It's the way the game plays and it's kinda lame. Even most dental plans don't cover anything beyond absolutely necessary dental work. Don't count on it. The best idea is get a high paying job and save and pay for the work yourself.